I have four G900Vs at home. Two of them have CID 15 and two have CID 11. Under the battery there is a sticker with the IMEI. The line above the IMEI has what appears to be a version number and I think it's the hardware version. Both of my CID 15 phones have 14.08 and one of the CID 11 phones has 14.09, the other is 14.10. My guess is that the CID 15 phones were the early runs and all probably have the 14.08 number while anything higher is going to be CID 11.
To the forum: Can everyone check that sticker and post the number above the IMEI line and what CID their phone has?
In checking 4 phones with confirmed CID's of 15, I see: 14.05, 14.04, 14.06, & 14.05.
I've found this to be a reliable way of getting a phone with a CID of 15. HOWEVER, I have come across a phone with a code of 14.08 and a CID of 11, so it seems that 14.08 is for sure the cut off, and that particular code should not be relied upon solely for a 15 phone.
So all below 14.09. So far this theory is planning out. I just didn't know there was anything below 14.08.
naviathan said:
So all below 14.09. So far this theory is planning out. I just didn't know there was anything below 14.08.
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One of my CID15 phones shows 14.04.
Is it so difficult to run EMMC BrickBug Test from the Market? Or have a look at the logic board?
When you're trying to buy a phone from someone and you want to make sure it's CID 15 but they have already factory reset it, yes.
naviathan said:
When you're trying to buy a phone from someone and you want to make sure it's CID 15 but they have already factory reset it, yes.
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Ok, that's clear.
I'd rather buy a phone with Toshiba chip because it seems to me that they are more reliable than Samsung's ones.
FYI, I have here labels with numbers 15.01, 15.08 - don't remember what were the chips on these boards.
And I have one 16.10 - this one has a Toshiba chip.
Hope this will help you
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Ok, that's clear.
I'd rather buy a phone with Toshiba chip because it seems to me that they are more reliable than Samsung's ones.
FYI, I have here labels with numbers 15.01, 15.08 - don't remember what were the chips on these boards.
And I have one 16.10 - this one has a Toshiba chip.
Hope this will help you
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Any idea what the CID were? I'm not familiar with the relationship between the chip manufacturer and the CID.
It is interesting that the version numbers are so wide spread. It still seems to hold out that the 14.08 and below are CID 15 and anything 14.09 and up is CID 11.
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Any idea what the CID were? I'm not familiar with the relationship between the chip manufacturer and the CID.
It is interesting that the version numbers are so wide spread. It still seems to hold out that the 14.08 and below are CID 15 and anything 14.09 and up is CID 11.
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CID15 - Samsung EMMC chip.
CID11 - Toshiba EMMC chip.
Currently can neither confirm nor disprove your theory.
Too little material to confirm and no facts to disprove .
But those numbers look like dates, as for me. Not as HW versions.
bbsc said:
CID15 - Samsung EMMC chip.
CID11 - Toshiba EMMC chip.
Currently can neither confirm nor disprove your theory.
Too little material to confirm and no facts to disprove .
But those numbers look like dates, as for me. Not as HW versions.
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So you think it might be a manufacturing YY.MM date?
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So you think it might be a manufacturing YY.MM date?
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We cannot know it for sure. But I think it may be a manufacturing date or something.
You can compare these dates with those that "Phone Info Samsung" app shows.
Mostly, they match each other for my phones.
And look. Even if these numbers are dates, your theory may be valid.
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We cannot know it for sure. But I think it may be a manufacturing date or something.
You can compare these dates with those that "Phone Info Samsung" app shows.
Mostly, they match each other for my phones.
And look. Even if these numbers are dates, your theory may be valid.
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I'll have to check that out, thanks. So far so good on the ranges though.
naviathan said:
I'll have to check that out, thanks. So far so good on the ranges though.
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Checked three more devices: 14.12, 15.01 and 15.10. All of them have CID11.
bbsc said:
Checked three more devices: 14.12, 15.01 and 15.10. All of them have CID11.
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You seem to have access to a lot of phones....lol
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You seem to have access to a lot of phones....lol
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Yes, SM-G900V is my family phone because it's excellent device for extremely low price.
I buy them "for parts" and don't pay more then $40 for each.
bbsc said:
Yes, SM-G900V is my family phone because it's excellent device for extremely low price.
I buy them "for parts" and don't pay more then $40 for each.
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Understandable. My wife and I have been using the S5 for at least 5 years now. Love these phones.
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I'll have to check that out, thanks. So far so good on the ranges though.
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And the last phone I can currently access shows 14.06 and has CID15.
BTW, these numbers on the stickers correspond "RF Cal" date, which is shown in info, accessed by dialing *#12580*369# (see attachment).
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And the last phone I can currently access shows 14.06 and has CID15.
BTW, these numbers on the stickers correspond "RF Cal" date, which is shown in info, accessed by dialing *#12580*369# (see attachment).
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That's pretty cool. So one could assume then that it's the frequency calibration date for the modem?
naviathan said:
That's pretty cool. So one could assume then that it's the frequency calibration date for the modem?
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Only Samsung konws for sure.
You may want to have a look at this ppt: https://ppt-online.org/55831
There's something about "RF Cal" starting from p.70.
But tell nobody about it
bbsc said:
Only Samsung konws for sure.
You may want to have a look at this ppt: https://ppt-online.org/55831
There's something about "RF Cal" starting from p.70.
But tell nobody about it
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That slideshow is epic....Wow. Now I need a toaster over I can convert for heating phones.
I think you're on to something! I had three phones I could check.
CID 15:
14.06
14.07
CID 11:
16.08
This could really make it a lot easier to find the correct revision. Great observation!
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Find this from chinese web site...........................
hi,
that just looks like mapking /papago screen.. cant prove that it has internal GPS.
What is your source.
BTW: the gps-antenna plug on 3300 looks just like the antenna plug on p3600 But that might just a for saving money on connectors though...
sas90850 said:
Find this from chinese web site...........................
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The picture shows only 5 received sattellites and no fix!! Not very promising...
The shown device has no brand. It could be a Dopod test device.
Read this threat for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1071782&postcount=140
operator settings
neofix said:
BTW: the gps-antenna plug on 3300 looks just like the antenna plug on p3600 But that might just a for saving money on connectors though...
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hello
Did your p3600 come with a operator wizard for settings for t-mobile etc?
XenoV said:
The picture shows only 5 received sattellites and no fix!! Not very promising...
The shown device has no brand. It could be a Dopod test device.
Read this threat for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1071782&postcount=140
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depends from many factors that... inside my house also my Globalsat with Sirf Star 3 doesn't fix and get sattellites.
a picture that shows satellite reception means nothing especially when there are many Bluetooth GPSr. Sure my O2 Mini can show you that page as well
Thus it can neither prove or disprove the availability of GPS
There are 2 version of Trinity, one has GPS and the other one don't
So, in that case, how does one know which version has GPS?
nt007 said:
There are 2 version of Trinity, one has GPS and the other one don't
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Without a source this is just pure fiction.
At least the previous poster provided a picture, lets try and keep to facts or rumours with some form of source, what do you think?
remixme said:
Without a source this is just pure fiction.
At least the previous poster provided a picture, lets try and keep to facts or rumours with some form of source, what do you think?
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here, the GPS is 35519......
nt007 said:
here, the GPS is 35519......
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That last number is the IMEI number, as far as I know it says nothing about the model number.
My Dutch device is:
Modelnr: TRIN100 (which is the same)
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI: 35942.....
My device is:
Modelnr: TRIN10000
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI: 35942.....
Guybrush said:
My device is:
Modelnr: TRIN10000
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI: 35942.....
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Here you can the structure of the IMEI-code.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMEI
You can analyse the code here:
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr
I think the only different between the IMEI on the photo is the remainder of the TAC and the unique serial number.
For my Europe/Dutch model:
Est. Date of Range Issuance Around Q1 2006
Reporting Body British Approvals Board of Telecommunications (BABT)
Primary Market Europe
Legal Basis for Allocation EU R&TTE Directive
How does the IMEI number relate to the possibility of GPS-function (which is the topic in this thread)?
Manne said:
How does the IMEI number relate to the possibility of GPS-function (which is the topic in this thread)?
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As far as I'm concerned It doesn't, and if it did, which I seriously doubt, then nt007 has not provided any clear evidence or explanation.
nt007 if you have something concrete and definite info on this, I'd love to hear it and would be grateful to you for it. if not please stop phrasing your topics in a way that misleads.
I agree with Remixme... Saying that the imei has anything to do with GPS-functionality is most likely not true. This because the imei is made for a purpose, and that purpose is not to identify this type of functionality...
The rumour about 2 different types of P3600, one with and one without GPS, started in the Netherlands I think. Somebody send an e-mail to a internetshop which claimed there was no GPS in the Dutch P3600 versions.
I think this makes no sense. Because it's cheaper for HTC to produce only phones with all the same hardware. But because there is still no centainty the GPS functionallity will be availible, shops and HTC do not dare to say there is a GPS functionallity build in.
I don't wanna disappoint you but take a look at here:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5860.html
I thought folks would find this interesting, to say the least.
There has been a lot of rumor and theorizing about the infamous "Yellow Reset Button" believed by some to signify a new run of phones, supposedly marking the phones as after the first 50k production units. This may be entirely true, partially true, or a complete fabrication, elevated to the status of urban legend, right up there with "It is illegal to kill a Praying Mantis, and you will get a $50 fine if you do, LOL! (You won't trust me on THAT at least.)
So it was with some excitement that I received a "Yellow Button Special" as my 4th warranty refurb. Let's just say that it did not quite life up to the hype, and was the absolute worst as far as lock ups, and I had 3 previous ones to compare it with. Part of the reason I put this in the Energy Forum was a Tweet that our esteemed chef put out about 5-6 weeks ago, saying that he had a yellow reset button model and was experiencing nolockups. That's quite a claim to make for ANY Windows Mobile handset, but I do not doubt his observation. I do believe it was probably early in the testing of said phone, and that he could not have kept such a sparkling record going indefinitely.
So, by way of a long story, I come to the blasted point, LOL! Anyone who haunts this forum knows my posts tend to be... let's say verbose! Nevertheless, attached are two pictures of the Part Number for two phones, both refurbs, and both from T-Mobile Warranty Support. Called and pleased my case, whereupon T-Mobile agreed to send me handset #5 - yep. This is my fifth T-Mobile HTC HD2 Phone.
And? Its GREAT! It works better than any other one I have had, in particular the Bluetooth A2DP works to my stereo headset without cutting out. I have had no lockups in over a full weeks use, with multiple ROMs flashed to it. Display is perfect, sensitive (I know thats driver, not hardware related, but just sayin. I have put it through a pretty vigorous set of daily use testing, and it has been beautiful.
Now for the clincher, and it's nothing to do with a "Yellow Reset Button". If you must know it DOES have a yellow button, BUT: It also has a different part number
Check the attached pics, which I covered my IMEI and my S/N (paranoia, no other reason, he he)
I have checked Serial/IMEI and Part Numbers on each refurb they sent, and all have had the exact same part number. Until now, that is:
The old one reads: xxxxx001-00 B
The new one reads:xxxxx001-01 XB
What does this mean? As an expert witness for the prosecution I will TELL YOU! The answer is: I haven't a clue what it means, or if it means ANYTHING. I do know that it is significant, and to me, a different Part Number means a revision. What revision, and even if its a GOOD revision remains open to speculation. I prefer to think I have "One of the new, GOOD ones", LOL. But seriously I don't know. It would be interesting if anyone cares to track these and see what we can learn, if if anyone on the forum actually KNOWS what the bumped up part # signifies. Anyone have any info?
For me, i think the rumour that they changed the button to yellow because america expects small red dots to be water indicators holds more of a ring of truth than a build version marker. I just think it coincided with a second surge in production.
hmm...interesting...are you referring only to TMOUS version or European one as well. My HD2 for instance is European and P/N reads 02-00 C
Since november Ive only ever had one entirely solid and dependable HD2, it has a p/n ending in 039-00.
im quite curious to see how these numbers reflect on the time/location of production....
What are folks doing to their HD2 to have multiple ones?
I have the TMO launch HD2 and its fine. I have updated the unit to the TMO US firmware and its fine. The only problem I had, which is annoying and I wish someone could help me fix this, is that with Facebook V1.2, it doesnt retain my credentials. regardless if I click save. I am investigating, but if someone knows how to fix this, please advise.
Otherwise, the unit is fine.
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I have the TMO launch HD2 and its fine. I have updated the unit to the TMO US firmware and its fine. The only problem I had, which is annoying and I wish someone could help me fix this, is that with Facebook V1.2, it doesnt retain my credentials. regardless if I click save. I am investigating, but if someone knows how to fix this, please advise.
Otherwise, the unit is fine.
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There is a sloution...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6524948#post6524948
Rurph said:
hmm...interesting...are you referring only to TMOUS version or European one as well. My HD2 for instance is European and P/N reads 02-00 C
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SmartAs$Phone said:
The old one reads: xxxxx001-00 B
The new one reads:xxxxx001-01 XB
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My HD2 purchased in 10/2009 reads 99HJY005-00 XB
I want to buy a new HD2.The seller says he has some hd2 produced in June and it can be inquired on htc website by imei.
Can IMEI be changed ?
I worry it's refurbished
thanks
zero2zero said:
I want to buy a new HD2.The seller says he has some hd2 produced in June and it can be inquired on htc website by imei.
Can IMEI be changed ?
I worry it's refurbished
thanks
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not easily and not legally, but it can be done.
orangekid said:
not easily and not legally, but it can be done.
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agreed, its not easy but it is possible
is there a way to know if it has been changed?
zero2zero said:
is there a way to know if it has been changed?
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I SERIOUSLY doubt it's been changed. Well the box should have it as well as if you remove the battery it should say it on the back of the phone, so the guy would have had to hard program it into the phone and also changed out inside the phone.
Don't worry about it.
Maybe I think too much
I'm from China. In China many 'refurbishers' specialize in these works.
I need to examine the whole phone and I wish I won't be unfortunate.
zero2zero said:
Maybe I think too much
I'm from China. In China many 'refurbishers' specialize in these works.
I need to examine the whole phone and I wish I won't be unfortunate.
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Check to make sure the IMEI on the back of the phone under the battery is the same one listed in settings > about.
Also if you got a box make sure that it is the same IMEI as on the phone.
If all three are the same it is very highly doubtful that it was changed.
I''m picking up an n4-16 off of cl for 160. The guy is claiming its a month old, I don't believe it obviously, but I would like to know how old it actually is. On my HTC One S there is a build date in the bootloader. How bout the N4, is there a reliable way of knowing?
Answer/Reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/info-lg-nexus-4-production-date-t2055351
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I''m picking up an n4-16 off of cl for 160. The guy is claiming its a month old, I don't believe it obviously, but I would like to know how old it actually is. On my HTC One S there is a build date in the bootloader. How bout the N4, is there a reliable way of knowing?
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I can't answer your question, but I seriously doubt that the phone is only one month old. I don't see a build date on my bootloader, but I'm on a custom rom and so I don't know if it was originally there.
Sent with my Nexus® 10 minus 3
Berrydroidcafe said:
I can't answer your question, but I seriously doubt that the phone is only one month old. I don't see a build date on my bootloader, but I'm on a custom rom and so I don't know if it was originally there.
Sent with my Nexus® 10 minus 3
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Yeah there is no reasonable way it is as new as the seller claims, but if I could figure out a way to get the device's age, I could call him out on it, use it as a bargaining chip and lower the price a bit more. Also the battery needs to be considered, if its a launch device, the battery might be on its last legs.
As an aside, your boot-loader is generally not modified by a custom rom. Such a change is technically possible I suppose, but unlikely. Or more correctly, I've only rarely ever seen it done, and usually its just a cosmetic change, nothing too fundamental.
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Yeah there is no reasonable way it is as new as the seller claims, but if I could figure out a way to get the device's age, I could call him out on it, use it as a bargaining chip and lower the price a bit more. Also the battery needs to be considered, if its a launch device, the battery might be on its last legs.
As an aside, your boot-loader is generally not modified by a custom rom. Such a change is technically possible I suppose, but unlikely. Or more correctly, I've only rarely ever seen it done, and usually its just a cosmetic change, nothing too fundamental.
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I would suggest shopping around, or save your money for a Nexus 6,which is rumored to be made by Motorola.
Sent with my Nexus® 10 minus 3
Berrydroidcafe said:
I would suggest shopping around, or save your money for a Nexus 6,which is rumored to be made by Motorola.
Sent with my Nexus® 10 minus 3
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You think 160 is too much?
ask to the seller send to your a picture of his bootloader
if says rev_10 under revision ones (april 2013 or earlier)
if says more then its newer ones.thats how far we can get I think
opssemnik said:
ask to the seller send to your a picture of his bootloader
if says rev_10 under revision ones (april 2013 or earlier)
if says more then its newer ones.thats how far we can get I think
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That's better than nothing man! Thanks for your help.
Bingo, just had to figure out the right sequence of words to search for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/info-lg-nexus-4-production-date-t2055351
opssemnik said:
ask to the seller send to your a picture of his bootloader
if says rev_10 under revision ones (april 2013 or earlier)
if says more then its newer ones.thats how far we can get I think
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Mine says rev 11
Sent with my Nexus® 10 minus 3
There is an app to know the manufacturer date, but cant remember right bow xd sorry,
Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 mediante Tapatalk
It's been a long time since the last poll,so I waited for someone to make another poll but no one did.
Recently got one, without knowing about this issue. Got a 603, but now I'll be constantly worried. Yesterday a reboot took unusually long, and I was ready to freak out. lol
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Recently got one, without knowing about this issue. Got a 603, but now I'll be constantly worried. Yesterday a reboot took unusually long, and I was ready to freak out. lol
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I read on reddit that someone with the same serial number got bootlooped, so keep backing up just in case.Btw,what's your hardware revision?
H815T 505 , So far no failure
doomalikaw99 said:
I read on reddit that someone with the same serial number got bootlooped, so keep backing up just in case.Btw,what's your hardware revision?
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I guess I'll regret trying LG. Oh well.. I'll make sure to keep things backup up. Do I need to worry about the data on the microSD card?
Hardware revision is 1.1, I think.
dsip said:
I guess I'll regret trying LG. Oh well.. I'll make sure to keep things backup up. Do I need to worry about the data on the microSD card?
Hardware revision is 1.1, I think.
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nah
doomalikaw99 said:
I read on reddit that someone with the same serial number got bootlooped, so keep backing up just in case.Btw,what's your hardware revision?
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Hah, my G4's motherboard was changed with new one with this S/N 603, HW version 1.0. After 4X HD, Optimus G, Nexus 4, G2, Nexus 5, G Pro 2, G3, definitely the G4 will be my last LG phone, if bootloop again! [emoji1]
With respect to the HW revision, I assume that the number on the back sticker of the packaging is the one to look at, right? It start's with MEZ, then a bunch of numbers and ends in (1.1) - so that should mean it's 1.1, right? Because there is no mention of the revision on the phone itself/behind the battery. I can only find S/N, IMEI & the model number H815 there, but neither rev 1.0 nor rev 1.1?
All stickers show only new SN, IMEI and model number. I can see the HW Version only in Hidden menu-> SVC Menu-> Version Info-> HW Version. As i said mine is v1.0.
I think 505 should have it's own spot in the poll. Most failures seem to be 505
novastar1 said:
I think 505 should have it's own spot in the poll. Most failures seem to be 505
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most fails are on 505 because it's the first batch(so the oldest),so it tends to fail sooner than others.Anyways,lg didn't acknowledge the issue before jan 2016,and it's been known by a lot that 506-509 should be affected too .
has anyone with hardware revision 1.1 ever experienced bootloop?it's weird how newer G4s like 603 got 1.0,maybe that's why they are failing.
doomalikaw99 said:
most fails are on 505 because it's the first batch(so the oldest),so it tends to fail sooner than others.Anyways,lg didn't acknowledge the issue before jan 2016,and it's been known by a lot that 506-509 should be affected too .
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There is a vast difference between 505 failures and any other model
505 had an almost 50% fail rate
Others may be within normal limits for an electronic device
dedovec said:
All stickers show only new SN, IMEI and model number. I can see the HW Version only in Hidden menu-> SVC Menu-> Version Info-> HW Version. As i said mine is v1.0.
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****, looks like HW Version is 1.0 after all..
I'm planning on buying a new lg g4. How could i know if i'll have problems before hand? i don't want to buy a falty device
Facuu said:
I'm planning on buying a new lg g4. How could i know if i'll have problems before hand? i don't want to buy a falty device
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Just try to get a S/N 510+ and build date on 12 / 2015
This poll does not distinguish between single or dual sim. And i'm beginning to think it ain't a problem on dual sim.
A friend of mine bought a duel sim on Hong Kong, after 4 months the phone won't recognize sim anymore, we tried everything it's just broken.
One Twelve said:
This poll does not distinguish between single or dual sim. And i'm beginning to think it ain't a problem on dual sim.
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unfortunately,the dual sim is also affected.
Facuu said:
I'm planning on buying a new lg g4. How could i know if i'll have problems before hand? i don't want to buy a falty device
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If you can get the serial number and it starts with 600+ ,then MAYBE you won't have any problems,but as you can some 600+ are also failing,soooooo...I recommend not buying it unless with warranty.
doomalikaw99 said:
unfortunately,the dual sim is also affected.
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To what extent ?