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Strange behaviour in hardware revisions

I have a problem with my unit so I'm going to send it in for servicing. I had KG3 on it and I reverted back to the official ROM.
Anyway while playing around with the device I noticed something weird. on KG3 the HW revision was 1.5 now I've reverted back to the firmware that came with the device (KF2) the HW revision has changed to 1.4.

What are you using to view the HW revision so we can all look at the same page and see if it also hold true with our units.
You own a repair shop right, couldnt you have your technicians fix it for you instead of sending it back for the 2nd time around ?

EarlZ said:
What are you using to view the HW revision so we can all look at the same page and see if it also hold true with our units.
You own a repair shop right, couldnt you have your technicians fix it for you instead of sending it back for the 2nd time around ?
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Dail *#2222# ..................... Do you even own this handset?
/me gasps and looks ahead with a meaningless expression on his face.
Why would I destroy the warranty on a new unit?

I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to me. On the original firmware i was 1.4 but when i changed it using odin i was 1.5. I wasn't sure if i'd remembered it incorrectly but i'm quite sure it was 1.4.

From memory i was also 1.4 on one of the first batches sold . Now 1.5 .
jje

GIR said:
Dail *#2222# ..................... Do you even own this handset?
/me gasps and looks ahead with a meaningless expression on his face.
Why would I destroy the warranty on a new unit?
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I humbly apologize that I only know of a few service codes, since I dont own and operate a repair shop such codes may not be a common thing to me, again please accept my apologies.
HW revision on my end is 1.5

EarlZ said:
I humbly apologize that I only know of a few service codes, since I dont own and operate a repair shop such codes may not be a common thing to me, again please accept my apologies.
HW revision on my end is 1.5
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That's a good boy, now hush, grownups are talking here.

GIR said:
That's a good boy, now hush, grownups are talking here.
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You mean old people
But id like to see you try

Unlike you i I don't have to try , I just do.
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[Q] How to know whether my Nexus 4 is new

Hello Experts,
G'day. I am planning to order a RMA due to battery issues in Nexus 4, but I would like to know how to check whether the RMA phone is New or Refurbished.
I tried Dial ##786# and also *#*#786#*#* .... both does not seem to work in Nexus 4....
Can you please let me know in Nexus 4 how to check the RTN screen to know the status of the phone.
thx
Ganu

catchganu said:
Hello Experts,
G'day. I am planning to order a RMA due to battery issues in Nexus 4, but I would like to know how to check whether the RMA phone is New or Refurbished.
I tried Dial ##786# and also *#*#786#*#* .... both does not seem to work in Nexus 4....
Can you please let me know in Nexus 4 how to check the RTN screen to know the status of the phone.
thx
Ganu
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I dont think there is a way to check if your RMA is brandnew or not.
I think you should focus on whether your RMA is satisfied or defective.

opticaldh said:
I dont think there is a way to check if your RMA is brandnew or not.
I think you should focus on whether your RMA is satisfied or defective.
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hmmm...but is there no way to see in Nexus whether its a new phone or not?...thats strange, i thought with all these open source option, there should be a way to know the status...
any other thoughts guys?

I would probably check the revision by booting into bootloader. I doubt they would be any rev_10 models still lying around. I would check the serial number as well. Theres a thread on here somewhere where you can find out when and where your device was manufactured using the serial number. That should give you a good indicator.

Rizy7 said:
I would probably check the revision by booting into bootloader. I doubt they would be any rev_10 models still lying around. I would check the serial number as well. Theres a thread on here somewhere where you can find out when and where your device was manufactured using the serial number. That should give you a good indicator.
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thanks a lot.... will check on how to decode the serial no....
but just surprised, that old android trick of 786 does not work in Nexus 4

[Q] Should I buy New Nexus 7 right now or wait for another set of fresh models?

Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.

An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.

laxinchili said:
As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.
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One of my cousin lives in India and wants me to despatch one to him from Amazon,sound bad?So you are clearly saying that I should wait until Asus releases more fresh ones in a few months,right?

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An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.
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Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).

nsnarayan10 said:
Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?
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https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&...3.152.3.3.0...0.0...1ac.1.T66OUul4cOI&qscrl=1

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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In a few months I'd be looking forward to the Kindle Fire HD 2's better hardware with the Snapdragon 800 CPU.

hyperxguy said:
I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).
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I got you on that,haha.Normally refurbished models come problem-free,right?I am considering waiting for it,then.What do you think?Bcz its a question of importing one.

The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.

aerdely said:
Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.
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I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?

Curare said:
The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.
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Can you please give me the link to brick and mortar store if they provide online service?
Thank you and you made a point!

nsnarayan10 said:
I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?
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Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.

Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?

aerdely said:
Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.
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Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?

nsnarayan10 said:
Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?
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Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.

laxinchili said:
Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?
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You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?

aerdely said:
Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.
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Thank you so much bro and I am scared what if i encounter any hardware issues like Dead-pixels and light bleeding.And this product is getting imported and worse is it could not be accepted for return since the product is not yet launched in that imported country.

nsnarayan10 said:
You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?
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Yes forgot about the dead pixel issue, that is true but not as all have it, its pretty much rolling the dice to see if your lucky enough to get one issue free, at least at the moment. So maybe to wait would be best or even a return but the return hasn't always proven true for me. I came from the Asus transformer which was riddled with ghost touch issues, went through 3 of them just couldn't get around it whether it was a return or not.

HI im in major trouble LG G2 D802

Hi i just recently bought a LG G2 D802 i updated the software to lolipop the screen became erratic , the sim stopped working and storage went from 32gb to 10gb i think its refurbished but what are the chances of me being wrong can anything else justify all this? Can it be fixed ? Am i screwed? IT WAS A MONTHS PAY DAMMIT HELP PLEASE ANYTHING WILL HELP ANYTHING

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Hi i just recently bought a LG G2 D802 i updated the software to lolipop the screen became erratic , the sim stopped working and storage went from 32gb to 10gb i think its refurbished but what are the chances of me being wrong can anything else justify all this? Can it be fixed ? Am i screwed? IT WAS A MONTHS PAY DAMMIT HELP PLEASE ANYTHING WILL HELP ANYTHING
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i seen phones fixed after flashing wrong variant if your phone was refurbished with fake info. theres alot of info on the refurbished thread.. so i say yes youll be able to get it back.

raptorddd said:
i seen phones fixed after flashing wrong variant if your phone was refurbished with fake info. theres alot of info on the refurbished thread.. so i say yes youll be able to get it back.
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I actually went to the shop i bought from ( local retailer) obviously voices were raised and i left the phone their now. They're gonna check if the phone is actually refurbished what are the chances it is? Any idea? Cause im pretty sure it is

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I actually went to the shop i bought from ( local retailer) obviously voices were raised and i left the phone their now. They're gonna check if the phone is actually refurbished what are the chances it is? Any idea? Cause im pretty sure it is
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well i cant really tell but by the way its acting up it seems like it isnt a true d802. wait aand find out what they say you need to see the motherboard model/variant and thats your variant. if it says d800 then it isnt a d802. and you need to follow intruction on how to recover from from it..

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well i cant really tell but by the way its acting up it seems like it isnt a true d802. wait aand find out what they say you need to see the motherboard model/variant and thats your variant. if it says d800 then it isnt a d802. and you need to follow intruction on how to recover from from it..
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If it isn't a d802 im calling the cops on them i got a receipt and all so im just gonna take my money back or take another one -_- i just wanted some mental confirmation if it isn't a d802 im pretty sure they ain't walking away from it LITERALLY

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If it isn't a d802 im calling the cops on them i got a receipt and all so im just gonna take my money back or take another one -_- i just wanted some mental confirmation if it isn't a d802 im pretty sure they ain't walking away from it LITERALLY
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before flashing this is the first thing that the user has to do. check their phone if you suspect its refurbished or bought it from like alien express ect. it should be there in big letters. ive seen this very often.

raptorddd said:
before flashing this is the first thing that the user has to do. check their phone if you suspect its refurbished or bought it from like alien express ect. it should be there in big letters. ive seen this very often.
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Is there any way to check the real imei number without opening the phone?

I have got a same problem. internal storage seems 32 gb but i can use 10 gb. I'm using cloudy g2 and I don't want to back to stock

ssj1236 said:
Is there any way to check the real imei number without opening the phone?
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Ther are suggestion you can try those but they claim not to be 100% sure. so its up to you.
read the firsts post there are links to only check..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/warning-to-people-bought-phones-ebay-t2991195

I haven't had the exactly the same problem as you, but have been in a similar situation where I bricked my phone. I'm here to help if needed.

Thanks for all the help everyone lets hope it goes well when i go to the shop tomorrow.

A Way to ID the CID 15 without loading app

I have four G900Vs at home. Two of them have CID 15 and two have CID 11. Under the battery there is a sticker with the IMEI. The line above the IMEI has what appears to be a version number and I think it's the hardware version. Both of my CID 15 phones have 14.08 and one of the CID 11 phones has 14.09, the other is 14.10. My guess is that the CID 15 phones were the early runs and all probably have the 14.08 number while anything higher is going to be CID 11.
To the forum: Can everyone check that sticker and post the number above the IMEI line and what CID their phone has?

In checking 4 phones with confirmed CID's of 15, I see: 14.05, 14.04, 14.06, & 14.05.
I've found this to be a reliable way of getting a phone with a CID of 15. HOWEVER, I have come across a phone with a code of 14.08 and a CID of 11, so it seems that 14.08 is for sure the cut off, and that particular code should not be relied upon solely for a 15 phone.

So all below 14.09. So far this theory is planning out. I just didn't know there was anything below 14.08.

naviathan said:
So all below 14.09. So far this theory is planning out. I just didn't know there was anything below 14.08.
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One of my CID15 phones shows 14.04.
Is it so difficult to run EMMC BrickBug Test from the Market? Or have a look at the logic board?

When you're trying to buy a phone from someone and you want to make sure it's CID 15 but they have already factory reset it, yes.

naviathan said:
When you're trying to buy a phone from someone and you want to make sure it's CID 15 but they have already factory reset it, yes.
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Ok, that's clear.
I'd rather buy a phone with Toshiba chip because it seems to me that they are more reliable than Samsung's ones.
FYI, I have here labels with numbers 15.01, 15.08 - don't remember what were the chips on these boards.
And I have one 16.10 - this one has a Toshiba chip.
Hope this will help you

bbsc said:
Ok, that's clear.
I'd rather buy a phone with Toshiba chip because it seems to me that they are more reliable than Samsung's ones.
FYI, I have here labels with numbers 15.01, 15.08 - don't remember what were the chips on these boards.
And I have one 16.10 - this one has a Toshiba chip.
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Any idea what the CID were? I'm not familiar with the relationship between the chip manufacturer and the CID.
It is interesting that the version numbers are so wide spread. It still seems to hold out that the 14.08 and below are CID 15 and anything 14.09 and up is CID 11.

naviathan said:
Any idea what the CID were? I'm not familiar with the relationship between the chip manufacturer and the CID.
It is interesting that the version numbers are so wide spread. It still seems to hold out that the 14.08 and below are CID 15 and anything 14.09 and up is CID 11.
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CID15 - Samsung EMMC chip.
CID11 - Toshiba EMMC chip.
Currently can neither confirm nor disprove your theory.
Too little material to confirm and no facts to disprove .
But those numbers look like dates, as for me. Not as HW versions.

bbsc said:
CID15 - Samsung EMMC chip.
CID11 - Toshiba EMMC chip.
Currently can neither confirm nor disprove your theory.
Too little material to confirm and no facts to disprove .
But those numbers look like dates, as for me. Not as HW versions.
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So you think it might be a manufacturing YY.MM date?

naviathan said:
So you think it might be a manufacturing YY.MM date?
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We cannot know it for sure. But I think it may be a manufacturing date or something.
You can compare these dates with those that "Phone Info Samsung" app shows.
Mostly, they match each other for my phones.
And look. Even if these numbers are dates, your theory may be valid.

bbsc said:
We cannot know it for sure. But I think it may be a manufacturing date or something.
You can compare these dates with those that "Phone Info Samsung" app shows.
Mostly, they match each other for my phones.
And look. Even if these numbers are dates, your theory may be valid.
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I'll have to check that out, thanks. So far so good on the ranges though.

naviathan said:
I'll have to check that out, thanks. So far so good on the ranges though.
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Checked three more devices: 14.12, 15.01 and 15.10. All of them have CID11.

bbsc said:
Checked three more devices: 14.12, 15.01 and 15.10. All of them have CID11.
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You seem to have access to a lot of phones....lol

naviathan said:
You seem to have access to a lot of phones....lol
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Yes, SM-G900V is my family phone because it's excellent device for extremely low price.
I buy them "for parts" and don't pay more then $40 for each.

bbsc said:
Yes, SM-G900V is my family phone because it's excellent device for extremely low price.
I buy them "for parts" and don't pay more then $40 for each.
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Understandable. My wife and I have been using the S5 for at least 5 years now. Love these phones.

naviathan said:
I'll have to check that out, thanks. So far so good on the ranges though.
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And the last phone I can currently access shows 14.06 and has CID15.
BTW, these numbers on the stickers correspond "RF Cal" date, which is shown in info, accessed by dialing *#12580*369# (see attachment).

bbsc said:
And the last phone I can currently access shows 14.06 and has CID15.
BTW, these numbers on the stickers correspond "RF Cal" date, which is shown in info, accessed by dialing *#12580*369# (see attachment).
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That's pretty cool. So one could assume then that it's the frequency calibration date for the modem?

naviathan said:
That's pretty cool. So one could assume then that it's the frequency calibration date for the modem?
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Only Samsung konws for sure.
You may want to have a look at this ppt: https://ppt-online.org/55831
There's something about "RF Cal" starting from p.70.
But tell nobody about it

bbsc said:
Only Samsung konws for sure.
You may want to have a look at this ppt: https://ppt-online.org/55831
There's something about "RF Cal" starting from p.70.
But tell nobody about it
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That slideshow is epic....Wow. Now I need a toaster over I can convert for heating phones.

I think you're on to something! I had three phones I could check.
CID 15:
14.06
14.07
CID 11:
16.08
This could really make it a lot easier to find the correct revision. Great observation!