Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
If you seek a more detailed and more specific guide for battery life,check out the thread by nero curin
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
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The Marionette said:
Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
Credits to the creators of L Speed and Ex Kernel Manager. .-----.
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hi marionette
thanks for your hardwork
but in the kernel CM 12.1 RANDOM REBOOT FIX when i set the settings and kill the app and restart the app the cpu is going to 1497 mhz ??
Alek Dev said:
hi marionette
thanks for your hardwork
but in the kernel CM 12.1 RANDOM REBOOT FIX when i set the settings and kill the app and restart the app the cpu is going to 1497 mhz ??
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It isn't about the tweaks,that kernel has buggy frequencies which stay at max.
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The Marionette said:
It isn't about the tweaks,that kernel has buggy frequencies which stay at max.
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i know the problem it's with the kernel not tweks,which kernel did you suggest to doesn't have reboots... and tweak work
Alek Dev said:
i know the problem it's with the kernel not tweks,which kernel did you suggest to doesn't have reboots... and tweak work
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Well...
The only kernel which is working properly is the newest one.
But you can try taking a kernel from older cm builds,one of the kernels has to work with your variant.
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The Marionette said:
Well...
The only kernel which is working properly is the newest one.
But you can try taking a kernel from older cm builds,one of the kernels has to work with your variant.
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Its weird, I've installed the 4/3 build several different times, one time i only had to go back to stock because i screwed something up messing with permissions to get viper to work but on that particular flash i had working data and only one sim icon for a few days. Today when getting sick of stock and trying to go back to that 4/3 build all of a sudden i got 2 sim icons and wonky data. Ive tried to reflash a few times thinking it'd fix but nope. Wonder why its so random.
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The Marionette said:
Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
Credits to the creators of L Speed and Ex Kernel Manager. .-----.
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Thanks for this.....works great. 3 days in and no problems, and definite improvement. I am on fixed income, but have had ROM Toolbox Pro, and was able to use performance settings to make adjustments without buying another app. Very much appreciated! :good: (60450, stock rooted, Xposed, Adaway, removed Seeder in case of conflicts, PIA VPN)
dongarritas said:
Thanks for this.....works great. 3 days in and no problems, and definite improvement. I am on fixed income, but have had ROM Toolbox Pro, and was able to use performance settings to make adjustments without buying another app. Very much appreciated! :good:
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Yeah,I discovered that Kernel Auditor can be used to shut down several CPUs.
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The Marionette said:
Yeah,I discovered that Kernel Auditor can be used to shut down several CPUs.
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I've used Kernel Adiutor a few times, but I could never get the settings to stay put. The Big cpu always managed to change my min and max settings whenever it felt like it. I just went on ahead and bought ex kernel manager just so I wouldn't have to pull my hair out using the previous program.
kingoftheafro said:
I've used Kernel Adiutor a few times, but I could never get the settings to stay put. The Big cpu always managed to change my min and max settings whenever it felt like it. I just went on ahead and bought ex kernel manager just so I wouldn't have to pull my hair out using the previous program.
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Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
The Marionette said:
Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
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Kernal audiutor usually seems better then ex but I've had Adiutor change things back to stock, so I always save a profile.
I'm pretty happy with the way the darkness governor handles things for big cpu. (for mine)
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The Marionette said:
Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
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Yeah I've done that a few times but the program itself I didn't really enjoy using in conjunction with lspeed also. I'd rather use whatever the devs and builders use to ensure I get the best out of each build.
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Well I've had the same issues on this build using the ex kernel manager and the exact settings you listed. The kernel decides to boost up to max whenever it feels like it and set on boot doesn't change anything. I'm getting annoyed with this phone. It's like I got a cursed one that just doesn't feel like being tweaked. I don't know what else to do at this point. I'm not getting any better battery life than before. Honestly I think it actually got worse. I think I'm just gonna go back to stock and not mess. With this thing anymore. I'm about to throw it out the second story window of my house.
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kingoftheafro said:
Well I've had the same issues on this build using the ex kernel manager and the exact settings you listed. The kernel decides to boost up to max whenever it feels like it and set on boot doesn't change anything. I'm getting annoyed with this phone. It's like I got a cursed one that just doesn't feel like being tweaked. I don't know what else to do at this point. I'm not getting any better battery life than before. Honestly I think it actually got worse. I think I'm just gonna go back to stock and not mess. With this thing anymore. I'm about to throw it out the second story window of my house.
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Yea they boost what to max because of mpdecision (as I'm told) which is supposed to be like touch boost, but trust me I feel your pain because it's all the same problems for me to, I average 2 an ½ consistently no matter what I do. However, If you can get 3 hours + I don't think it's so bad, that's pretty average for most phones I've had. But big cores Always run the battery down for me, and if they don't, the little cores do because they stay high frequency all the time making up for the big ones. It's like it honestly does have a mind of its own.
The best battery life I got so far is just over 3 hours, and I always use the OC Kernel because most others reboot for me or run more erratically, so if you haven't tried the OC yet I'd say give it a shot before you ditch back to stock.
Tho news with marshmallow on the way it might be worth waiting for on stock...
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Yea they boost what to max because of mpdecision (as I'm told) which is supposed to be like touch boost, but trust me I feel your pain because it's all the same problems for me to, I average 2 an ½ consistently no matter what I do. However, If you can get 3 hours + I don't think it's so bad, that's pretty average for most phones I've had. But big cores Always run the battery down for me, and if they don't, the little cores do because they stay high frequency all the time making up for the big ones. It's like it honestly does have a mind of its own.
The best battery life I got so far is just over 3 hours, and I always use the OC Kernel because most others reboot for me or run more erratically, so if you haven't tried the OC yet I'd say give it a shot before you ditch back to stock.
Tho news with marshmallow on the way it might be worth waiting for on stock...
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Yeh the news about getting MM was awesome. I average about the same screen on time as you do, around 2.5 hours. The only rom I didn't have issues with battery wise was the i806 oc build from unjustified, but because it hasn't been updated I started having boot issues. I think I'm gonna see about going back to a previous 12.1 marionette build I was using that gave me around 4-5 hours screen on time or just revert to stock rom with underclock kernel.
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Yeh the news about getting MM was awesome. I average about the same screen on time as you do, around 2.5 hours. The only rom I didn't have issues with battery wise was the i806 oc build from unjustified, but because it hasn't been updated I started having boot issues. I think I'm gonna see about going back to a previous 12.1 marionette build I was using that gave me around 4-5 hours screen on time or just revert to stock rom with underclock kernel.
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I wanted to do stock with underclock for battery life specifically but underclock reboots for me :/ I know that has to be the best chance for battery life with it
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tbkrazeey said:
I wanted to do stock with underclock for battery life specifically but underclock reboots for me :/ I know that has to be the best chance for battery life with it
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I just did that and had the same experience. Reboots for days. I guess when we finally get MM more debs will pop up and support for the phone will rise again. Right now it seems development has stopped and we are relying on build after build. If I was smart enough I'd give development a shot.
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kingoftheafro said:
I just did that and had the same experience. Reboots for days. I guess when we finally get MM more debs will pop up and support for the phone will rise again. Right now it seems development has stopped and we are relying on build after build. If I was smart enough I'd give development a shot.
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Your variant should be nearly the same as mine, just locked to a carrier and mine isn't, so more then likely they have the same likes and dislikes when it come to kernels. And yea hopefully mm will spin things up again.
I've been considering attempting to learn some stuff to help with development myself, I have a tiny bit of experience with stuff but not a lot, but everyone has to start someone, it's either you can learn it or you can't...
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Hey all .. I have been a registered user on xda for over a year now and after a really loooong rom trails, finally i have reached the best performance for our Desire Z .. Found the best rom with best setting so far
Whats amazing is that the rom is Sense 3.5 and it runs smoothly than any other rom i have ever seen even the de-sensed ones
p.s Before stating the roms i would like to thank all the devs over xda and other websites for the huge effort they put in these roms
I tried
1. MIUI
2. CM7
3. RunnyDoroid
4. BeatMod BlissSense Hybrid
5. LeeDroid_HD
6. Virtuous Unity
7. Virtuous Affinity
8. Virtuous Sense
9. Coredroid
10. InsertCoin_Vision
11. RCMix
And all ICS ports .. By far This rom with these settings r the best performance i have ever experienced on my Desire Z and i would like to share it with you .. So let's Start
Rom Name:
Android Revolution HD™ 7.0.2 - Thanks to Napior and Mike1986
Kernel:
RCMix v12.2 Kernel
Tried Virtuous Kernel too (Didn't notice any speed differences but if you want to go with the Virtuous Kernel its running smoothly ). Thanks to Zofox
Tweaks:
(What i installed not all available ones)
A. RCTweaks v2.0 (For All Sense 3.5 ROMs)
B. TouchPad Wake On
Lets go for the Settings
Using V6 - SuperCharger
I used the MegaRAM 2 w/512mb option 9 in this script (Reported to have some issues with gaming - try option 6 for gaming please)
Gives me around 145MB of free Ram with 53 Apps installed.
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OC - I am using Set CPU just for monitoring (Dont change the frequencies just monitor the CPU frequency and temp)
I am using governer - smartass
*If you decided to go for the Virtuous Kernel (go for screen off profile scary and the default governor SavagedZen - Both with the same frequencies 245MHz to 1075 MHz)
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SD-Booster (for SD card speed) Setting 8192KB
VM Heap Tool - Setting 32m
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Used Swap following this tutorial (Thanks for masterismos for guiding me to the tutorial) - Used 512MB for EXT and 256MB for swap partition
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Thats all .. Hope this topic will help Desire Z owners to have a reliable, fast, stable and enjoyable phone
P.s if anyone got a better setting or an app i missed please tell me.
Note: If u got a USB mass storage problem when trying to hock ur phone to a laptop or a pc (the Only one i faced) - Use SD Dual Mount it will solve the problem like charm
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Benchmarks:
* With Antutu benchmark
* Using the above settings
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p.s Set CPU attached to the topic.
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thanks for you experiences, but please, don't include attachments that break the rules (e.g. paid version of setcpu).
sorgo said:
thanks for you experiences, but please, don't include attachments that break the rules (e.g. paid version of setcpu).
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Okay .. sorry for that i will remove the attachment now
If you go to setcpu authors thread, he lets you download the paid version for free.
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I removed the attatchment anyways .. its easy to get setcpu and sd dual mount widget
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I have tried your setup. And I have to say, something weird is happening. Whenever I try a game, after a few minutes, the screen goes black. The app is still running, because if I close the screen and open it again, there it is.
Any idea?
That never happened with me .. but try changing the V6 - Supercharger to option 6 that might solve the problem .. try it and get back to me
p.s it was reported by some users that some memory handling in v6 - SuperCharger does not handle games well (reported for option 7 up till now)
Whats your opinion about the overall performance of the phone?
Gaming Problem
I am trying option 6 now and it is running smoothly on Angry Birds Space with no problems .. Please get back to me as soon as u try it
h.motawee said:
I am trying option 6 now and it is running smoothly on Angry Birds Space with no problems .. Please get back to me as soon as u try it
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Me too
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Seems like that did the trick. Overall performance - WOW! 140mb free ram on a Sense 3.5 ROM. Never thought that was possible.
damn ... 3 days ago I tried every single ROM there is, and I really taught Virtuous sense is the one to go .. now I have to do it again (and I hate flashing cause of paranoia of brick, even though I do it by the book) .. guess I will try it if lots of you say only positive stuff.
what's the ROM's default CPU frequency ?
With this configuration, do you "lose" any messages? I often don't receive messaged with Sense 3.5 roms.
bogdan5844 said:
Seems like that did the trick. Overall performance - WOW! 140mb free ram on a Sense 3.5 ROM. Never thought that was possible.
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Happy it worked for u .. thanks for the feedback .. enjoy ur new desire z
Hit the thanks button if u liked the settings
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damn ... 3 days ago I tried every single ROM there is, and I really taught Virtuous sense is the one to go .. now I have to do it again (and I hate flashing cause of paranoia of brick, even though I do it by the book) .. guess I will try it if lots of you say only positive stuff.
what's the ROM's default CPU frequency ?
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As I said in the topic .. I have tried every single rom out there try this with with my settings and u won't regret it I guarantee u that
The Rom's default CPU frequency is 1075 GHz and don't overlock it I tried overlocking it and it performe better under the 1075 GHz .. try it and feed me back
If u found the blazing fast performance .. hit the thanks button
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geojoking said:
With this configuration, do you "lose" any messages? I often don't receive messaged with Sense 3.5 roms.
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In the Rom thread u will find some people reporting this issue but with my settings I never lost a message .. try it and feed me back
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h.motawee said:
As I said in the topic .. I have tried every single rom out there try this with with my settings and u won't regret it I guarantee u that
The Rom's default CPU frequency is 1075 GHz and don't overlock it I tried overlocking it and it performe better under the 1075 GHz .. try it and feed me back
If u found the blazing fast performance .. hit the thanks button
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damn, I will need to go back to stock, cause my warranty is still active and the speaker is failing. and I was looking forward to this.
I know I had BIG problems with root, so before I try this one, are there any other faster root methods ? I know that there is 2 of them (ADB and/or Visionary temp root) but one would think that there should be an app for that by now .. ?
hey i lose msgs when my phone is doing something like when wifi is on and im using some app then my msgs get lost even though my msg app is bulletproofed
yasirrfc said:
hey i lose msgs when my phone is doing something like when wifi is on and im using some app then my msgs get lost even though my msg app is bulletproofed
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The sms problem is reported in the rom thread by few users and it has been said that ghostly sms solves the problem completely .. have a look @ this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12765846
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If you found this post helpful .. hit the thanks button
yea i know ghostly solves is that is how we know we lose msgs but we dont want ghostly to be installed and want to receive all sms in default sms app
Yeah, same here. I fixed my speaker this morning, all eager to flash it now and rooted the stock again, but this really brings me down. are ROM makers into it, or is this the final version .. ?
with Virtuous abandoning their ROM (RC3 is the last version of quattro I guess and it's been a long time without even news on developing) it kinda sucks to know that everyone is slowly abandoning this phone
I've been testing supercharger for jellybean for about a day now and I have noticed a boost in performance so I'd thought I'd pass it on.
I'm on cm10 jellybro 8/17 with air kernel #201 non bigmem and noticed the difference immediately after the reboot. Apps seem to open quicker and the phone doesn't lock up as much when multitasking. Also, even though it says I'm only 50% supercharged and I have a weak launcher I still haven't gotten a launcher redraw since running the script but IMA test that more for sure.
I installed all the tweaks it asks if you want before you get the part where you pick the oom groupings :including the 3g speed hack and I chose the moderate 512 HP I think its option 6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276/
Hope this helps: )
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Good to know...I tried a while ago and restored my backup since it said I was only 50%. I might have to give it another shot
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jeremy112683 said:
Good to know...I tried a while ago and restored my backup since it said I was only 50%. I might have to give it another shot
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Do some research... As supercharger doesn't really boost your Nexus. It's more for low end devices with little rom. If you haven't had bigmem then maybe you'd feel it yes, I'm running new rasbeanjelly with bedalus and it runs soo smooth with at least 160 mb free ram
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kwibis said:
Do some research... As supercharger doesn't really boost your Nexus. It's more for low end devices with little rom. If you haven't had bigmem then maybe you'd feel it yes, I'm running new rasbeanjelly with bedalus and it runs soo smooth with at least 160 mb free ram
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Hate to break it to you but by modern standard the NS is low end. ICS and JB were built mainly for a device with a GB or more of RAM so every last byte counts.
kwibis said:
Do some research... As supercharger doesn't really boost your Nexus. It's more for low end devices with little rom. If you haven't had bigmem then maybe you'd feel it yes, I'm running new rasbeanjelly with bedalus and it runs soo smooth with at least 160 mb free ram
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How low end? I heard the same thing when people were testing it on the epic touch which is understandable but for a phone with 512mb running a big os? Yes every little bit helps
Btw I did do my research thanks
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Its not going away any time soon.
Nexus 7 and SGSIII users complain of lag after awhile and supercharging fixes it... as usual.
I, too, can confirm that the Supercharger works good on JB. Running the latest Codename with Air Kernel, supercharger does make a difference I've found but only when multitasking. Disappointing though to still see the occasional launcher redraw, but it's not that big a deal.
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Its not going away any time soon.
Nexus 7 and SGSIII users complain of lag after awhile and supercharging fixes it... as usual.
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You've just reminded me to root my N7, lol. Great work with supercharger btw
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You can easily afford to bulletproof the launcher if you have a redraw here or there
genaro12543 said:
I've been testing supercharger for jellybean for about a day now and I have noticed a boost in performance so I'd thought I'd pass it on.
I'm on cm10 jellybro 8/17 with air kernel #201 non bigmem and noticed the difference immediately after the reboot. Apps seem to open quicker and the phone doesn't lock up as much when multitasking. Also, even though it says I'm only 50% supercharged and I have a weak launcher I still haven't gotten a launcher redraw since running the script but IMA test that more for sure.
I installed all the tweaks it asks if you want before you get the part where you pick the oom groupings :including the 3g speed hack and I chose the moderate 512 HP I think its option 6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276/
Hope this helps: )
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You need to use the Jellyscreampatcher to patch files to patch files to get 100%, use this thread to guide you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869663
let me know if this helps you
i will try this supercharger too :good:.
Anyone has tangible numbers to represent the improvement? Anything that could be proven as not placebo?
The supercharger makes me think of kids ricing their Civics or a bad commercial with erroneous/random capitalization, funny made up words and flashy colors.
SuperCharger! BulletProof! Die-Hard! Hard To Kill! SuperClean! Cust-OOM! 3G TurboCharger! Kick Ass Kernel Tweaks! MegaRAM!
Where's Vince from Shamwow when you need him eh?
Not saying it doesn't work, but this is the kind of talk clearly made to pickup sheeple rather than to expose facts. How information is presented doesn't really change the end result but changes the target population. Don't all get offended now.
Of those that actually used it, if I remember the math (too lazy to do it now):
50% say it's the best mod ever... It jumbs to...
65% when you add those that say Big Performance Boost... It jumps to...
80% when you add those that say Noticeable Performance Boost.
Are those numbers ok, Frenchy?
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Of those that actually used it, if I remember the math (too lazy to do it now):
50% say it's the best mod ever... It jumbs to...
65% when you add those that say Big Performance Boost... It jumps to...
80% when you add those that say Noticeable Performance Boost.
Are those numbers ok, Frenchy?
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Boost™ with zOOM zOOM features?
That's a nice poll, but it's flawed in the sense people that will answer it are very likely users of the mod. Kinda like asking an Android user if he thinks Android is better than iOS. Wouldn't be surprised to see the majority answer YES there, and NO if asked on Apple boards.
Other than a poll, any other data to look at? Is the performance measurable in any kind of way?
And you fail to take into account that the majority of respondents have used other tweaks and mods.
This XDA...duh...
And yet, BEST MOD EVER was the most clicked response.
I see you just like to blow hot air and listen to yourself talk before actually knowing anything first hand.
Any more ignorant musings will only qualify as trolling and make you look stupider (I know it's not word but fits perfectly)
Can use supercharge v6 on NS4G? I
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zeppelinrox said:
And you fail to take into account that the majority of respondents have used other tweaks and mods.
This XDA...duh...
And yet, BEST MOD EVER was the most clicked response.
I see you just like to blow hot air and listen to yourself talk before actually knowing anything first hand.
Any more ignorant musings will only qualify as trolling and make you look stupider (I know it's not word but fits perfectly)
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Shall I gather that you fell down to insults because you're unable to bring anything else than a zany poll? :good:
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Somehow performance should be measured. However as this tweak is said to improve system smoothness and available ram I think it is difficult to measure it.
My own experience is that I don't feel the difference as my phone has enough ram available and never experience launcher redraw anyway.
But as the poll concludes, people say they feel the difference. Don't think all of these votes are fanboy votes so there must be improvements.
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Shall I gather that you fell down to insults because you're unable to bring anything else than a zany poll? :good:
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I stated a fact.
You've been trolling.
Nothing you have posted in this thread has benefited any single molecule in the entire universe.
I brought something.
You've brought NOTHING but BS.
You failed statistics in high school didn't you? We could go on and on, and I could troll all day, but so far only kwibis has tried to justify the use of supercharger through a coherent approach.
You're the biggest troll here, touting all sorts of improvements without being able to calmly back it up with anything else other than a ridiculously flawed poll. You step low enough to get insulting and try to nit pick on someone to discredit them rather than to work on a way to prove your claims. And yes, there's actually a way to test for UI smoothness just as there's a way to test for UI animations. You should try to improve your scientific approach a bit instead of getting your panties in a bunch and getting huffy at the first non believer. I swear it'll help you in life as a whole.
Hey guys
since i saw a lot of kernel for the beast N7100
and i think a lot of you may be asking which kernel to choose
i liked just to make a small comparison for those kernel via Antutu Benchmark
some of you care for the performance results, and some just want a balance Kernel
therefore i tested almost all kernel for the SAMMY based kernels and upload the pix for you
in this way you may get a better idea how might your phone look alike, But also you have to watch you Battery
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1600 MHz
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All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1800 MHz
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 2000 MHz
Correction for 2 kernel name, Perseus 1.36, and Redpill 1.47
It migt be not so important for you,
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alright but now do some tests for battery life, i think thats no1 reason what people want in custom kernel
use every kernel for few days with "normal" usage and do screenshots every day of battery and screen on time when batttery goes critical. i planned to do that but kinda lazy
also it would be good to do some recording of wakelocks on every kernel.
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alright but now do some tests for battery life, i think thats no1 reason what people want in custom kernel
use every kernel for few days with "normal" usage and do screenshots every day of battery and screen on time when batttery goes critical. i planned to do that but kinda lazy
also it would be good to do some recording of wakelocks on every kernel.
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thats indeed better, but me also cant make the test for battery...since i daily or every 2 days change a rom....my phone is not stable on any rom lol
Were these benchmark runs only once?
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Were these benchmark runs only once?
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if u mean one test for kernel, then yes
good comparison.. which rom where u using while doing the testing??
also which baseband and build?
This is so completely irrelevant to anyone but you. A single run of benchmarks is in no way indicitave of a kernels performance.
Anyone making the decision to flash a kernel based solely on a screenshot of some benchmarks should just stick to stock and save themselves the hassle.
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good comparison.. which rom where u using while doing the testing??
also which baseband and build?
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On alliance rom v3 dmc3 baseband xdkl7...when ur rom will be ready ?
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This is so completely irrelevant to anyone but you. A single run of benchmarks is in no way indicitave of a kernels performance.
Anyone making the decision to flash a kernel based solely on a screenshot of some benchmarks should just stick to stock and save themselves the hassle.
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So where is ur point?
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mrlove6 said:
So where is ur point?
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My point is that the information you have provided is useful only to you and even then it isn't particularly useful.
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My point is that the information you have provided is useful only to you and even then it isn't particularly useful.
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Maybe thats ur opinion..when benchmark and kernels are never important there was no need to invent the benchmark. ...anyway ill try to contact phonearena.com and gsmarena.com and tell them to stop testing phones on benchmark ( useless ) becuase u said so. Thanks for ur pass
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it is interesting someone post a result with 3d score 863 for a note 2. do you know what that mean?
Means overclicking so much isnt good with this kernal...and as u see I think its the only one have low value
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Maybe thats ur opinion..when benchmark and kernels are never important there was no need to invent the benchmark. ...anyway ill try to contact phonearena.com and gsmarena.com and tell them to stop testing phones on benchmark ( useless ) becuase u said so. Thanks for ur pass
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They actually use repeatable tests. Or at least I hope they do. Not just you running the benchmark once...
If you want even a modicum of respect in the field of scientific testing, you'd have given the details of the ROM version in use, and also the process used to average the results over a number of executions.
Scientific tests are based across running one test multiple times without changing anything, as it increases the reliability of the results if they agree with each other.
Usually you can discount the lowest and highest result each time you repeat the same test, but then you need to average the remaining results. I'd expect that benchmarks should be normally distributed around the actual score.
mrlove6 said:
Hey guys
since i saw a lot of kernel for the beast N7100
and i think a lot of you may be asking which kernel to choose
i liked just to make a small comparison for those kernel via Antutu Benchmark
some of you care for the performance results, and some just want a balance Kernel
therefore i tested almost all kernel for the SAMMY based kernels and upload the pix for you
in this way you may get a better idea how might your phone look alike, But also you have to watch you Battery
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1600 MHz
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 1800 MHz
All Kernels without modifications just flashed and tested with 2000 MHz
It migt be not so important for you,
but if you think i helped you
please do not hesitate to click the Thanks button
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I got (1600Mhz) 1800+ score in AnTuTu ...without any junks i got 18500+
NEAK kernel...
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Which rom u r using ?
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Omega Rom v16+SaberKernel:good:
Wow your scores are pretty bad. I use to get 19,000+ with ARHD and Perseus kernel OC to 1.8Ghz and UV down to -50mv. However, I also realised that if you keep benchmarking repeatedly one after the other you will get lower scores due to built up of heat and other factors such as RAM usage. So the question is: How long did you wait between benchmarking a kernel and what were the precautions you took before initiating a benchmark run? And what was the average score of each kernel?
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Wow your scores are pretty bad. I use to get 19,000+ with ARHD and Perseus kernel OC to 1.8Ghz and UV down to -50mv. However, I also realised that if you keep benchmarking repeatedly one after the other you will get lower scores due to built up of heat and other factors such as RAM usage. So the question is: How long did you wait between benchmarking a kernel and what were the precautions you took before initiating a benchmark run? And what was the average score of each kernel?
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if u take a look on the screenshots, u will see exactly the time and the average compared to the 3 oc 1600 1800 and 2000
Maybe re-run the test? Clear Memory, Kill apps before running each test?
Take the average of lets say 3 runs?
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You are a hero to the thunderbolt community sir! Thanks.
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Does the nav bar mod allow for more than the home/recent/back options? Thanks for putting these together.
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Can't wait to use this mod... great work 2all....
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Does the nav bar mod allow for more than the home/recent/back options? Thanks for putting these together.
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no, its just the stock navbar within the system ui, the search and menu soft buttons are inside of the system ui, just not linked to the navbar. so in theory, to add those 2 buttons, i would have to go to the xml files and copy the instance where the back button is but change all references to back/menu. I was going to focus most of my development time on these mods but the 3.0 kernel source was released yesterday so i am working on a custom kernel. This means fully working ics roms. I am adding overclocking to 1.9 ghz, and some governers, the usual stuff.
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no, its just the stock navbar within the system ui, the search and menu soft buttons are inside of the system ui, just not linked to the navbar. so in theory, to add those 2 buttons, i would have to go to the xml files and copy the instance where the back button is but change all references to back/menu. I was going to focus most of my development time on these mods but the 3.0 kernel source was released yesterday so i am working on a custom kernel. This means fully working ics roms. I am adding overclocking to 1.9 ghz, and some governers, the usual stuff.
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Most bolts can't handle over 1.5 GHz.
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Dark Jedi said:
Most bolts can't handle over 1.5 GHz.
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Not without frying it lol.
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Not without frying it lol.
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the highest I have gotten it to go [while being ULV'ed] was 1.35Ghz
after being pushed any higher is would freeze and bootloop
really badly. This was when the Thunderbolt came
out and it still had Gingerbread with custom kernel.
I was able to get GB up to 1.6 by overvolting but like I said. You can fry it. Now if I go up that high it locks up instantly. Tbh oc up to 1.9 won't do you much good except drain the battery or screw the phone up permanently.
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disconnecktie said:
I was able to get GB up to 1.6 by overvolting but like I said. You can fry it. Now if I go up that high it locks up instantly. Tbh oc up to 1.9 won't do you much good except drain the battery or screw the phone up permanently.
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Totally agree.
I think the only reason you should have it that high is the "wow factor"
Now having it Under-Volted just a smidge is what I have always used..
You can't actually screw up your phone from oc'ing it, only ov'ing. Worst case scenario, it gets hot, freezes, and reboots... And you're right where you were before. I'm running mine at 1766 right now, all of our processors handle over clocking differently
Edit: running steady at 1920
Edit: aaaand it froze haha. Test your CPU's limits, mines 1766, what's yours?
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Most bolts can't handle over 1.5 GHz.
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Everyones processor has a different amount of wear and tear, the previous owner of my bolt never overclocked past 1.2 ghz so i can easilly run mine at 1.7 ghz stable, the option for 1.9 is there for those who can handle it
je2854 said:
the highest I have gotten it to go [while being ULV'ed] was 1.35Ghz
after being pushed any higher is would freeze and bootloop
really badly. This was when the Thunderbolt came
out and it still had Gingerbread with custom kernel.
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must have been a cruddy kernel :/
jacobmacek said:
You can't actually screw up your phone from oc'ing it, only ov'ing. Worst case scenario, it gets hot, freezes, and reboots... And you're right where you were before. I'm running mine at 1766 right now, all of our processors handle over clocking differently
Edit: running steady at 1920
Edit: aaaand it froze haha. Test your CPU's limits, mines 1766, what's yours?
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You indeed can ruin your processor running oc. It was intended to run at 1ghz and running oc at any level over what it was intended will shorten the life of if substantially. Lets not confuse people about that fact. It can be harmful for your processor.
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You indeed can ruin your processor running oc. It was intended to run at 1ghz and running oc at any level over what it was intended will shorten the life of if substantially. Lets not confuse people about that fact. It can be harmful for your processor.
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I agree that it can shorten the life of your processor and ware it but your statement made it sound like if you select anything over 1.5 will instantly kill your cpu. That can happen with computers but in android if its clocked too high for the cpu to handle, the kernel panic makes it reboot so your processor doesnt in fact "fry itself".
disconnecktie said:
You indeed can ruin your processor running oc. It was intended to run at 1ghz and running oc at any level over what it was intended will shorten the life of if substantially. Lets not confuse people about that fact. It can be harmful for your processor.
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Mine runs at 1.2ghz stock, since the JB update. I believe that these cpus are actually meant to run at 1.2ghz, but were under-clocked when released. So running at 1.3 or 1.4 ghz is really not pushing it.
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must have been a cruddy kernel :/
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I have always been an avid OC'er on any machine I have ever owned..
BUT just because -I- could not over-clock it higher didn't mean it was
a crappy kernel.. ALL phones are made differently no matter if it is the
same hardware profile or not...
kristoff123 said:
Mine runs at 1.2ghz stock, since the JB update. I believe that these cpus are actually meant to run at 1.2ghz, but were under-clocked when released. So running at 1.3 or 1.4 ghz is really not pushing it.
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who's jb rom are you running?
htc set a performance lock for the ics kernel
kristoff123 said:
Mine runs at 1.2ghz stock, since the JB update. I believe that these cpus are actually meant to run at 1.2ghz, but were under-clocked when released. So running at 1.3 or 1.4 ghz is really not pushing it.
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I had a Samsung Moment and found this information out
it was a stock stocked at 600Mhz SPRINT OC'ed it to 800Mhz and
it could be OC'ed to 1.12Ghz without it freezing or being unstable.
So I know exactly what you are talking about when you said this..
Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!
EDIT: Moderator - could you please edit the title of the post and correct the typo? GeekBench, not Brnch. Thanks!
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Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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K.khiladi said:
Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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Hey pal. Thanks for your feedback. Nice to see your response. I'll try it out as you suggest. I've been running a bunch of tests and it's looking like I hover around 740-50 single and 2700-50 multi. I've changed the configuration to default squid, so interactive governor and aggressive frequency settings. Needless to say the performance sure is snappy. Hahaha.
I'll likely revert to lionfish 800 on both clusters but this interactive snappiness is tempting...
Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...
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Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.
AtomicStryker said:
Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...
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What's your setup, Atomic?
Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
OC Kernel with interactive and row 256kbps
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.
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Interactive. Base frequencies on both clusters 200. Overcharged squid kernel.
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TxaEkis said:
Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
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Cm seems to be set for higher benchmarks.
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag
TxaEkis said:
If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag
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Interactive is a great governor yeah. Thanks for your response regarding the ROM. I hear that CM13 is still a little shaky on the X Play but maybe I'll try the next release just to compare. I'll try a full discharge from 100% with default squid's OC kernel values. If I can still get >7 hours SOT with that setup and snappy performance I'll be thrilled.
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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Nicely said. Performance and stability are key for me. Battery life too. Haha. I just love the X Play for that battery. 5 hours SOT and 21%. So lovely.
I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:
squid2 said:
I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:
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Hey squid,
Looks interesting. I think CM13 is definitely worth a look. I think I'll try the next release. Thanks for explaining the customizations/optimizations you've done.
Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.
AtomicStryker said:
Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.
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Battery life is quintessential for me, too. I was hoping to strike a balance between performance and battery (hence the Optimal Setup thread) and am still trying to discern what the best setup is to meet my requirements.
I'd like to try a custom ROM at some point, but that's my curiosity more than anything.
Battery life on the X Play can't be beat! That's why I got it.
Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother
flashallthetime said:
Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother
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Yep. I'd expect that. Still though - if properly customized this phone can really fly.