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Highest Quadrant Score Ever Recorded on Evo?

Hey guys,
So on my Gen 1 Evo, I was using CM6.1.0 RC1 with CMsnap 7.6 BFS and Turbo turned on...I was able to achieve an unthinkable number that absolutely stunned me. Sadly, I sold this Evo as I wanted to buy the Epic 4G and start over. Just before I sold it on ebay, I flashed CM6.1.0 Stable with CMsnap 7.6 again with Turbo on and got an even higher score! Unfortunately, because I didn't want to add any more applications to the phone as I was shipping it out, I didn't take another screenshot of my highest score, BUT I did get a screenshot of my first benchmark and here it is:
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MY HIGHER SCORE WAS 2680! Talk about ridiculous!
Has anyone been able to achieve higher?

Vipermuscle83 said:
Hey guys,
So on my Gen 1 Evo, I was using CM6.1.0 RC1 with CMsnap 7.6 BFS and Turbo turned on...I was able to achieve an unthinkable number that absolutely stunned me. Sadly, I sold this Evo as I wanted to buy the white one and start over. Just before I sold it on ebay, I flashed CM6.1.0 Stable with CMsnap 7.6 again with Turbo on and got an even higher score! Unfortunately, because I didn't want to add any more applications to the phone as I was shipping it out, I didn't take another screenshot of my highest score, BUT I did get a screenshot of my first benchmark and here it is:
MY HIGHER SCORE WAS 2680! Talk about ridiculous!
Has anyone been able to achieve higher?
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I am not sure if anyone has but they are easy to fake so I am sure someone will come in here saying theirs is higher and then another then another. You see where im going with this.
Mine was no where near that and I dont care to check it often. As long as my phone functions properly its all good.

I saw as high as 2800 on snap turbo. Not really a big deal, quadrant is easily gameable. Cyanogen posted a shot of like 3800 a while ago.
Posted by my rooted EVO 4G

I'm not saying this is real but why would anyone fake this? To what end? Admittedly, my Evo has never achieved a quad score this high running CM6/Snap and I... don't see the point of getting your Evo to run this fast... Um... Congrats on your high score?

Dude, Honest to God...the only reason I even posted this was because I've always wanted to know what the highest Quadrant was on the Evo. I was practically giddy when I saw this score and I swear it's NOT a fake. Regardless, I didn't know if this was setting a benchmark or if someone else with a different setup was getting higher numbers. Like I said, I got a new Epic 4G now and want to see if there's another setup out there that would intrigue me.
I'm truly in love with Android and LOVE hacking...have been doing it since my Nexus One (Which I desperately miss btw) and just so enthusiastic about all we are able to do with these phones. I'm not even trying to compete with anyone...just find this **** so cool!

I've never received a score above 1550.
That being said, my friend bought a G2 and scores in the upper 2000s and yet my Evo performs all tasks just as well as his G2.

My highest was 2800 on CM6 with snap.
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Wow, so does a phone with that rom and kernel really run that much quicker doing day to day stuff?

I got over 9,000.

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Wow, so does a phone with that rom and kernel really run that much quicker doing day to day stuff?
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YES, you will feel and love the snappy feel and instant page loads!
This is this morning with CM6.1 and only 80mb free in phone storage, I have a lot of apps. If I strip it down w/o Google apps or any add ons, and put it in airplane mode, I've gotten 2890 before.

dude for real anyone that thinks that is fake they have never tried cm w/turbo. I remember getting scores like that.

If your rom uses Stagefright, this isn't equivalent test...
Guys,
From another thread:
"I wouldn't go crazy, guys. This tweak makes stagefright the default media player. Stagefright is better at decoding h.264 videos. Quadrant uses h.264 decode as part of its benchmark. Thus, the higher score...
So, this tweak increases the performance of a task that Quadrant just so happens to use. The same kind of thing occurs with Snapdragons and Linpack. This _doesn't_ mean that this tweak improves overall CPU performance by 30%."
humungus
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What I've noticed is that SnapTurbo, although incredibly fast "Quadrant-Wise", really has no noticeable performance impact while operating everyday features such as opening applications, browsing the net, or altering settings. It seems only as fast as any other AOSP kernal. BUT...It's awesome getting those quadrant scores for sure!

Actually, I was reading an article last night about a couple of Epic 4G developers that were practically at war over whether or not Quadrant Scores are an accurate telling point for performance. The developer that argued that quadrant scores don't matter was so determined to prove his point that he literally created a Rom built for nothing more than to max out Quadrant Standard even though it was only as fast as the average Epic 4g Rom. That evidence, along with my own comparisons while using SnapTurbo with CM6.1 vs other kernals on CM6.1 got me pretty convinced that quadrant scores are just something to show off but probably won't amount to anything you can actually feel being that much faster on the phone.

gerardo vega said:
dude for real anyone that thinks that is fake they have never tried cm w/turbo. I remember getting scores like that.
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I never said this was fake I was just stating the fact that Quadrant is easily manipulated to show higher scores.

I run CM6/Snap kernel and it cooks through my battery so quickly that I dissable it. This is like thinking that you need a 400hp vette to drive on a freeway--you don't. You only need about 45hp, if that. That being said, I Set CPU my Evo at 350MHz when it's running a battery and I swear it runs fine and promote to 900MHz when it's plugged in. So why have a superphone if you're going to undervolt it? Why do people own, 4WD raised trucks in the burbs? Cuz ya' can...
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OT rant:
Seriously, why are you running snap 7.6 with 6.1, and with Turbo enabled, no less? Have you just ignored the hundreds of posts of problems people are having with 6.1 and Turbo? And the warning from the CM team that Turbo is not compatible with 6.1? I'm not trying to be a nazi about this, because you're welcome to use whatever kernel you want, but I'm just constantly amazed at the amount of posts from people still trying to use the 7.6 Turbo kernel after they've been told countless times not to use it. Is the extra perceived performance worth all the annoying bugs?

yeah, i got around 2600~'s as well with cm6 and snap with turbo on and oc'd to 1200 etc.
ran p.good. not sure why i stopped =P haha

EndlessDissent said:
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Seriously, why are you running snap 7.6 with 6.1, and with Turbo enabled, no less? Have you just ignored the hundreds of posts of problems people are having with 6.1 and Turbo? And the warning from the CM team that Turbo is not compatible with 6.1? I'm not trying to be a nazi about this, because you're welcome to use whatever kernel you want, but I'm just constantly amazed at the amount of posts from people still trying to use the 7.6 Turbo kernel after they've been told countless times not to use it. Is the extra perceived performance worth all the annoying bugs?
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This would be the first that I have heard of there being a problem with CM6.1 and Snap Turbo. I don't read every single post about CM, though I do scan through the development thread from time to time, haven't read about it there, so it must not be too widespread of a problem. I do remember reading about some problems people were having with bluetooth with Snap and the CM RC's, but I don't use BT, so I never really looked into it.
Myself, I run Snap Turbo cause it actually runs better foe me than what I've tested last week. I setup CM6.1 with the stock kernel and ran it for a bit, ran smooth, but I was getting some lag here and there. Tried out Zendroid .9 Beta, and that was pretty nice, but also similar in lag experiences. So I jumped back into Snap 7.6 BFS cause I knew haw it ran before, and figured I'd give it a go.
CM6.1 with Snap Turbo runs absolutely fantastic on my phone. I get no lag anywhere, and the speed with which pages load is ridiculous! I have SetCPU OC'd to 1190 Interactive, with a screen off profile of 128 min and 245 max Interactive. I get pretty nice battery life with that, and it's blazing fast when i need it. Right now, my battery is at 36% and it has been of the charger for 10.5 hours with moderate to heavy use through the day, I would call that plenty good considering. I wasn't getting any better with the built in kernel or Zendroid. Can't wait till Snap v9 comes out, hopefully before Xmas.

Even a cursory read through the Snap thread\CM6.1 thread\CM6.1 nightly thread would show that they are highly incompatible. You in no way need to read "every post", not even close. I would just think its recommendable to read up on whether a kernel is compatible with a ROM before blindly flashing it.
Its not all about "speed."

[Q] Fastest Rom (I know another Rom question)

I want to know which is THE fastest rom available for the MT4G. I dont care about features or sense or whatever, all thats important to me is performance. Thederekjay can score 4200 with o/c, i can too. So please people, tell me what rom will help me achieve that uber score!

There are things even less meaningful than Quadrant scores, but there are only few of them.
Judging the speed of ROM by Quadrant score is about as meaningless as it gets.
You want speed? Overclock.
How much? As much as your phone allows, and as much as you're willing to go risking to burn your phone very soon.
What good will it do? Probably nothing.

tristan6100 said:
I want to know which is THE fastest rom available for the MT4G. I dont care about features or sense or whatever, all thats important to me is performance. Thederekjay can score 4200 with o/c, i can too. So please people, tell me what rom will help me achieve that uber score!
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Quadrant means little to nothing in the real world. It's completely and udderly bogus numbers to make you think you are getting what you want to get.
And here is a perfect example why. I under clocked my phone [768Mhrz] and still hit 2k+ on the Quadrant.
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How did i do that. Easily. the program is easily hackable VERY hackable.

Give Faux123's Rom a shot. I can't quote quadrant scores at you because I don't use that, but I can tell you that it's one of the most stripped down, fastest Roms I've flashed onto my phone. And his latest kernel will let you overclock to over 2gig.

AlanB412 said:
Give Faux123's Rom a shot. I can't quote quadrant scores at you because I don't use that, but I can tell you that it's one of the most stripped down, fastest Roms I've flashed onto my phone. And his latest kernel will let you overclock to over 2gig.
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I would have to agree with you on this. The fastest rom is going to be the most stripped down rom capable of overclocking the highest. I tried this once and got pretty high quadrant scores. Prettty much any AOSP based rom is going to give you high scores though.

MIUI is my daily driver. I used CM and FAUX's Rom's but MIUI runs the best IMHO.
Also ran Unity and several others. Still, MIUI is the best for ME.

alright well thanks guys, im probably gunna try faux aosp rom and ill compare with my current cm7 nightly, ill also compare between thederekjays kernel and fauxs. thanks again

After using almost every single ROM, I can confidently say that when it comes solely to speed, FAUX's ROM is blazing fast.

eqjunkie829 said:
I would have to agree with you on this. The fastest rom is going to be the most stripped down rom capable of overclocking the highest. I tried this once and got pretty high quadrant scores. Prettty much any AOSP based rom is going to give you high scores though.
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Let me remind everyone that high freqs pretty much 1.7GHz+ aren't very stable, now 2GHz has a very high power draw and can cause the phone to lockup completely...MIUI/CM7/FAUX would be the top picks as the quickest ROMS, I use MIUI. It's very fast, the cpu governor/cpu speeds you use will also contribute to how quick a ROM will be...Use lower speeds and get more life, but less speed...Or more speed, and receive a shorter life span.

+1 for fauxs aosp rom and thederekjays miu rom w/ demon speed mod. I'd also recommend thederekjays port of preghostchili rom from g2 forums, it is way overthemed but stupid fast and full of built in tweaks and options enabled thru terminal. I myself use it as my daily and have hit 4129 on quadrant using tdj's kernel.
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d12unk13astard said:
+1 for fauxs aosp rom and thederekjays miu rom w/ demon speed mod. I'd also recommend thederekjays port of preghostchili rom from g2 forums, it is way overthemed but stupid fast and full of built in tweaks and options enabled thru terminal. I myself use it as my daily and have hit 4129 on quadrant using tdj's kernel.
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wow, now that sounds pretty nice, ill flash that once i get the time and ill post some results

Why you so concerned bout the quadrant score, trying to impress someone?
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

If you like Sense try Virtuous Unity Beta and to make it faster try the No-sense script in the Desire HD forum to remove Sense launcher and other Sense bloatness. You can get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993475 and make sure you setup the lockscreen the way you want it before flashing the script because as of now the personalize menu doesnt work.

Mr.Highway said:
Why you so concerned bout the quadrant score, trying to impress someone?
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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I think that's so...Sadly he feels High score=Speed/Perf, but it's really Speed=/=Quadrant score. It's possible to fake a score of 100000 if you hack quad, people have hacked it before. But quad doesn't actually tell you about actual real life performance, which I think matters more. If you really want more speed than just overclock, 1ghz is enough-but do 1.4+ and it's pretty much overkill. For the most speed use performance governor, 1 homescreen, and install no other apps at all and use no widgets. And make the wallpaper a sold color with no scrolling, and don't use any b/g accounts at all.

Why does everyone always get so upset when someone wants to focus on getting a high quadrant score?! He can do what he wants with his own phone and enjoy it how he wants. I used to be concerned about quadrant too until I realized I don't care that much about how fast a rom runs as much as how cool it looks.
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I live in the real world and use my phone to do real world tasks. I care about 1 thing and 1 thing only. How my phone performs day to day.
If I'm taking credit card payments with Square and prepping an invoice using MobileBiz while also sending emails, making calls and sending texts to clients, or simply taking pictures and video of my 6 month old son, I want it to run smooth. No lag, no hang-ups. Just work. Plain and simple.
MIUI does that and gives me 1 day 22 hours of it. All while running 1017/122 Superbad.
If you people are concerned about how long you can play Angry Birds, go load up Quadrant and run your favorite fart apps while pulling 8000 in Quad and brag all you want.

Holy crap guys whats with all the hate?!?!? To me quadrant is a tool to define the speed of a rom. Whaf i meant is that the higher score u get the faster it is. So if Thederekjay got 4200 its cuz whatever hes running is fast and would.want the performance. I know that the rom isnt whay entirely defines the speed of the phonr but its a majot part of the combination (kernel, OC, governor, vm optimisations). I just wanted the fastest phone so that i would experience the less lag possible while on.my phone and playing games. I only refered to quadrant because it is tool for me to compare my phones performance while testing roms, tweaks, kernels etc. So no its not for bragging
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YOU think it's not for bragging. YOU think the tool's results are valid info.
In fact, you're wrong, and the tool's results don't mean a thing, and the correlation between them and the actual ROM speed barely exists.
That's what most people tried to explain to you in this thread.

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YOU think it's not for bragging. YOU think the tool's results are valid info.
In fact, you're wrong, and the tool's results don't mean a thing, and the correlation between them and the actual ROM speed barely exists.
That's what most people tried to explain to you in this thread.
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well it sounded more like ppl wanted me to shut up because bragging about your phone is gay but thats not was i was trying to do.

No one complains when a dev posts a screenshot of a quadrant score in a ROM they put out....douchebags.

The best performance rom+kernel.

Hello guys.
I`m new to N7. I have installed Motley kernel and ParanoidAndroid. I`m wondering if i can get better performance on 1.6 Ghz. (14100 in Antutu-How much is your?)The kernel is perfect for me but i think ParanoidAndoid has not the best performance. Can someone suggest me a rom?

DeFcOn said:
Hello guys.
I`m new to N7. I have installed Motley kernel and ParanoidAndroid. I`m wondering if i can get better performance on 1.6 Ghz. (14100 in Antutu-How much is your?)The kernel is perfect for me but i think ParanoidAndoid has not the best performance. Can someone suggest me a rom?
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performance would depend on tbe kernel. trinity kernel is a performance kernel(since you brought up antutu, 16400 here). rom wise, rasbean jelly is a great rom to match up with a performance kernel.

simms22 said:
performance would depend on tbe kernel. trinity kernel is a performance kernel(since you brought up antutu, 16400 here). rom wise, rasbean jelly is a great rom to match up with a performance kernel.
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Thx for your fast answer. I dont want to flash trinity kernel because i heard that it has worst battery life then motley(IDK if this true). Rasberry will be ok with motley?

DeFcOn said:
Thx for your fast answer. I dont want to flash trinity kernel because i heard that it has worst battery life then motley(IDK if this true). Rasberry will be ok with motley?
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rasbean jelly will be fine with motleys kernel. but id say that trinity is better on battery life

simms22 said:
rasbean jelly will be fine with motleys kernel. but id say that trinity is better on battery life
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I installed Trinity+Paranoid=3800 in quad.
On Motley+Paranoid=4700
Both on 1.6... Isn`t intresting?

DeFcOn said:
I installed Trinity+Paranoid=3800 in quad.
On Motley+Paranoid=4700
Both on 1.6... Isn`t intresting?
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you should figure out how to bench properly before comparing benchmarks. so no, not interesting. you get a wide variety of scores when you let the device scale. quadrant doesnt toll the cpu enough, and you might have only tested one or two cores at a lower cpu. rasbean jelly and trinity, isnt that intetesting :silly:
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simms22 said:
you should figure out how to bench properly before comparing benchmarks. so no, not interesting. you get a wide variety of scores when you let the device scale. quadrant doesnt toll the cpu enough, and you might have only tested one or two cores at a lower cpu. rasbean jelly and trinity, isnt that intetesting :silly:
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I have 4 question : Does rasberry have tablet ui? How can i test the cpu at the max? Performance governor? (It does the same as intreractive) Why do you have such a high I/O score? I have about 1800. What vesion of N7 do you have? And you have 3 times better score at 2D.

OK 2D score boosted by enabling Force GPU rendering. What about I/O?

DeFcOn said:
I have 4 question : Does rasberry have tablet ui? How can i test the cpu at the max? Performance governor? (It does the same as intreractive) Why do you have such a high I/O score? I have about 1800. What vesion of N7 do you have? And you have 3 times better score at 2D.
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1. rasbean jelly does not have tablet ui
2. set the cpu at top speed for the highest and top speed for the lowest.
3. i prefer ondemand/deadline. performance governor is terrible.
4. turn off fsync for higher i/o(in the filesystem or with a cpu control app. i use the trimity kernel toolbox. and run the ext4 mount script for extra i/o(the trinity kernel toolbox automatically runs the ext4 mount script when opened the first time, but you need to disable fsync manually).
5. go to the devices main settings, developer options, enable force gpu rendering for a higher 2D score.
6. i have a wifi only n7, 16gb.
7. youll need an app to disable tegra hotplug and enable all four cores if you want to go that route. the kernel would have to support it. trinity does, im not sure about motley(i think it does too). many benchmarks dont toll the quadcore enough to get accurate results. so you have to make sure that all 4 cores are used.
8. you can overclock or underclock the gpu with trinity kernel also.

What file in system i have to edit to run a command when its booting. I remember it was hw_config.sh in GingerBread ROMs... But i cant find it now...

DeFcOn said:
What file in system i have to edit to run a command when its booting. I remember it was hw_config.sh in GingerBread ROMs... But i cant find it now...
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you need init.d files to run scripts upon bootup. not all roms support init.d scripts(rasbean doesnt), but there are flashable mods to give roms init.d support.

Thank you a lot for the help. Now i have 6500 in Quadrant. You are a great man :angel:

DeFcOn said:
Thank you a lot for the help. Now i have 6500 in Quadrant. You are a great man :angel:
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much better! :victory:

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much better! :victory:
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I don't want to piss you off but can you post here your antutu benchmark screenshot where i can see the detailed score? I want to know where my nexus defeats coz i have only 13500.

DeFcOn said:
I don't want to piss you off but can you post here your antutu benchmark screenshot where i can see the detailed score? I want to know where my nexus defeats coz i have only 13500.
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lol @ pissing me off.. :angel:
my guess is that youre getting thermal throttled. find a way, like a fan, to cool off your device while benchmarking(dont stick it in a fridge as condensation in the device can ruin it). heres my last antutu..

simms22 said:
lol @ pissing me off.. :angel:
my guess is that youre getting thermal throttled. find a way, like a fan, to cool off your device while benchmarking(dont stick it in a fridge as condensation in the device can ruin it). heres my last antutu..
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620Mhz? LOL :laugh:

I have pretty same score. Only the CPU integer, floating point, 3D is lower. Probably because you're runing at 1.7 Ghz. Right?:cyclops:

DeFcOn said:
620Mhz? LOL :laugh:
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I have pretty same score. Only the CPU integer, floating point, 3D is lower. Probably because you're runing at 1.7 Ghz. Right?:cyclops:
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yea, 1.7ghz. with tegra hotplug disabled, all 4 cores running.
btw, a while back there was a 2ghz kernel which almost no one could run at 2ghz. i hit 8998 in quadrant, almost 9000!
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found it, its not a jelly bean kernel though, wouldnt be compatible with recent roms.
lol

simms22 said:
yea, 1.7ghz. with tegra hotplug disabled, all 4 cores running.
btw, a while back there was a 2ghz kernel which almost no one could run at 2ghz. i hit 8998 in quadrant, almost 9000!
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found it, its not a jelly bean kernel though, wouldnt be compatible with recent roms.
lol
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45° that's is how hot your nexus? Mine never go higher than 37°

DeFcOn said:
45° that's is how hot your nexus? Mine never go higher than 37°
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yours gos hotter. are you looking at cpu temp or your battery temp? 37C is body temperature, its not hot at all. your cpu will get hotter even, 45C is cool for the cpu, especially when pushing it. i can easily get it to the cpu shutdown temp if i want to, cpu shutdown is at 100C. cpu temp you need an app to see, battery temp is listed in settings.

Speed up your Moto X (Fastest ROM/Kernel/Settings)

Hi guys and gals, so I started doing some benchmarks a while ago on my moto x after seeing how poorly mc5 preformed on both it and my old Droid Maxx. My goal was to find the absolute best settings and kernel/ROM combination possible. It just so turns out that n5xpa was the absolute fastest ROM available for our device. Not only is it stock aosp/pa with all the pa beta features but it has a couple of extras added on. There is also a custom AOSP CAF kernel that is also over clocked with fast charge built right in.
If you want to boost your in game fps download resolution changer in the play store and set the resolution to 583 x 1024 and set your dpi to 240.
Attached are my benchmarks in antutu 5.2.0 and all my settings. P.S. I do use seeder.
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This was using n5xpa? What version? Link?

Heres a link http://n5x.mobi/motox
There are two versions of the ROM. The paranoid android version and cyanogenmod version. Cm is the only one posted in the xda forums.
Updated benchmark

Those are really impressive scores. It is hard for me to break 29000 on my Maxx overclocked to 1.944 GHz running Faux's kernel. Well done.
This is using Interactive governor for CPU and on demand for GPU, stock voltage, fiops for I/O scheduler. I ran this setup for a few months but currently running on Intelliactive governor to see if there is a noticeable difference on battery life. But with how big the battery is on the Maxx, I don't think it matters. Antutu score suffers greatly when on intelliactive. Usually scores around 27000 but the phone is just as snappy.

Johnny Wong said:
Those are really impressive scores. It is hard for me to break 29000 on my Maxx overclocked to 1.944 GHz running Faux's kernel. Well done.
This is using Interactive governor for CPU and on demand for GPU, stock voltage, fiops for I/O scheduler. I ran this setup for a few months but currently running on Intelliactive governor to see if there is a noticeable difference on battery life. But with how big the battery is on the Maxx, I don't think it matters. Antutu score suffers greatly when on intelliactive. Usually scores around 27000 but the phone is just as snappy.
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I run a lower res around 563 x 1024 to 583 x1024 and I get major bench scores. And yes you really don't need a battery saving kernel on the maxx with its crazy battery. I had a locked maxx for a while. Just couldn't stand not having
cm or pa on it so I got a moto x
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What app are you using in the screenshot that shows your kernel's governor and clock speeds?

I don't see how crippling your device's functionality makes it better, outside of your benchmark score. Lowering a device's native screen resolution just to show off to all your friends some amazing benchmark score is pointless.

I couldn't keep my battery drain down on n5xpa ROM. For AOSP I've found Liquid to be the best stablity/speed + battery once I set it right, intelliactive bfq with intelliplug on, mpdecision off. I'm finally back to stock now that there's a custom kernel option for sprint users finally. And to be honest stock is much better all around for me. It's faster, good ole stock touchless and active Features and my battery is doing quite well.
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I have a small issue regarding contacts while trying to import my list from SIM. It simply says No Contacts anyone know why or how to fix? Also selecting 2G and the signal disappears 3G and LTE are the only working options. This is on PA 4.0 version.

So...you crippled your Moto X by flashing a custom ROM (removing any unique Moto features), lowered its screen resolution, overclocked it, and used a placebo application (Seeder) to get a slightly higher benchmark score.
And then made a post about it.
Good job.

Don't listen to imnuts or Lyokacanthrope. They always p1ss on anyone who actually does something.
Pathetic.

Sorry? It seems pretty pointless to reduce the functionality of a flagship smartphone just to get 3000 more points in a useless synthetic benchmark.
Doing this, your screen clarity will be drastically reduced, your battery life will go to hell, and you'll lose most of the features that make this phone interesting.
I love tinkering as much as the next guy, but this is just plain silly.

Quantumstate said:
Don't listen to imnuts or Lyokacanthrope. They always p1ss on anyone who actually does something.
Pathetic.
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Did something? It is completely crippling the phone just to get better benchmark numbers. I'll stick to my low benchmark, but still usable phone over anything mentioned in the OP. Installing AOSP is one thing, but the rest of the stuff that was done offers no increase in usability and is solely for increasing you e-peen.

You two just criticize and find fault, while never offering an alternate solution. This is the lowest and sickest (in the old sense of the word) mindset, afaic.
Researchers must explore new methods and boundaries in order to make breakthroughs, which are always unforeseen by you ignorant lot.
Oh, you happily take advantage of new developments, which you'd impeded right up until they mature, and never give credit nor acknowledge your role in discouraging innovators.
Good job there.

I see everyone's point here. Though i feel it is very important that someone browsing this forum understand in order to get the "speed" gains that are being promoted, features are being removed and shortcuts are being taken. Nothing wrong with that. "Knowing is half the battle" - G.I. Joe

Alternate solution: Leave your phone stock so it's actually usable. I'm not sure what you're looking for here, or in other threads with similar topics. There are times where alternate solutions are not useful, like this thread where the OP is illogical.
Turning down the resolution on a smartphone is like trying to get somewhere in a race car during rush hour traffic. Sure it goes fast, but what's the point?
Maybe it seems overly critical, but there isn't anything left when there are unreasonable, illogical, or some other similar post made.
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does it impact battery positively?
i can see using a 800x600 resolution on days that all i want is 24h of voice gps and texting.

Quantumstate, you treat this whole thing like it's some major scientific breakthrough that will cure cancer.
It's just getting a higher benchmark score on a year old phone. (while, of course, outright gimping it)
Nothing more.
It's akin to buying a brand new PC and slapping Windows XP on it because it uses less RAM.
Actual, GENUINE, improvement would probably be something along the lines of getting increased real-world framerates and stability while not sacrificing any functionality. Say, a rewrite of the kernel hotplug driver and GPU governor. That'd be neat to see.

No. Experimenting with various aspects of Android and taking a characteristic to an extreme, often leads to surprising results. It's the way science has always been done. If you perpetually follow the well-beaten path, you will always get average results.
This is what a few of you can not understand. But you go further than just dismissing these experimenters -- you go out of your way to criticize them. And that's when y'all deserve to be slapped, or else the whole development environment suffers.
It doesn't matter if you don't recognize the value. Take your frustrations out on something else.

gcbxda said:
does it impact battery positively?
i can see using a 800x600 resolution on days that all i want is 24h of voice gps and texting.
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No, changing the resolution doesn't really do anything appreciable for the battery. You might get a little more due to the CPU and GPU working a little less, but nothing statistically significant.
Quantumstate said:
No. Experimenting with various aspects of Android and taking a characteristic to an extreme, often leads to surprising results. It's the way science has always been done. If you perpetually follow the well-beaten path, you will always get average results.
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How is doing what's always been done differ from what is a given? I'd be more concerned if all of the changes in the OP decreased performance. You do all of that stuff, you are guaranteed to get better benchmark scores, I'd say that is lower than average results.
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This is what a few of you can not understand. But you go further than just dismissing these experimenters -- you go out of your way to criticize them. And that's when y'all deserve to be slapped, or else the whole development environment suffers.
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I encourage legitimate development, but none of that ever shows up g here anymore. Legitimate experimentation would be getting significantly better benchmarks without hurting the hardware, battery life, or functionality of the device. Installing AOSP is one thing, kernel another. All credibility went out the door when the screen resolution was lowered and benchmarks used as the only measure of results.
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It doesn't matter if you don't recognize the value. Take your frustrations out on something else. Take up sports, if you're not too fat.
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I go to the gym regularly, as long as my schedule permits. Maybe you should try taking some classes in engineering, critical thinking, and logic, your posts suggest they are needed.
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Benchmark Table Comparison - 3DMark and Geekbench 4.2

Hello and welcome!
This morning I began wandering the XDA ZUK Z2 forums, looking at all these new threads and posts. I'm really impressed with all the progress for the Z2 that developers have been making lately. So I decided to try a few new ROMs.
I have always found really interesting to test new ROMs, set them up, install everything back and then use the ROM for a few days to see how everything goes... Only to find out that a new feature has been released or a new version of the ROM I'm currently using and the process begins again, it's really cool :victory:
So today I picked a few ROMs, and decided to try them all, run a few benchs and write down the results. At the end I thought I could share the data gathered and perhaps we could get some idea of how these ROMs perform.
So the general process was the next:
Wipe everything but internal.
Flash ROM and ROM alone, no GAPPs, Magisk or MODs.
Wipe Dalvik and Cache (dev recommendation).
Shutdown from recovery, boot, install benchmark apps and restart.
Clear recents and begin benchmarks.
Notes:
TWRP used was latest official version.
Baseband is the latest official baseband for the chinese Z2.
ROM version was the latest as of yesterday.
Kept the phone above 40% battery, so battery charging was needed between ROM flashing from time to time.
Cooled phone between benchmarks, as to prevent throttling from affecting the benchmarks, however didn't add cooling when benchmarking.
Alright then! Let's get down to it!
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SSE: Sling Shot Extreme.
SSE scores: Overall scrore, graphics score, physics score. Ditto for Vulkan.
Geekbench 4 scores: Single core, multi core.
Geekbench 4 COM: Compute benchmark.
Now let's talk a bit about these numbers. As you can see Oreo ROMs get higher scores in both 3DMark and Geekbench benchmarks, with Cosmic getting the higher score in the Sling Shot Extreme OpenGL benchmark and Cypher in the Vulkan variant, although not by much. In Geekbench Jaguar leads with the higher score in both the single core and multi core test. Now look at every Oreo multi core score, it is higher than its Nougat counterpart, I wonder if this is in part because of the drivers or OS optimizations, however I also wonder how this shows, if it show at all, in real world usage.
I would like to note that if I'm not mistaken Jaguar had increased CPU frequencies, not sure about the GPU though, and that could be one factor for the increased scores, however OMNI got really close to Jaguar and again, if I'm not mistaken, Jaguar is based on OMNI. I would like to point that as the day passed the room temperature increased (hot day), so take the temp thresholds with a grain of salt. The battery percentage loss found in the table is that which 3DMark reported in the OpenGL test.
One thing is that even when the numbers varies from ROM to ROM the difference is not that huge (around 12% max in the multi core CPU test), and most importantly... how this translates to real world usage?
So perhaps you noticed the last column, Dolphin. I decided to install the latest Dolphin version and run The Legend of Zelda - Wind Waker intro screen and write down the highest and lowest FPS reported by the emulator. What we find is that the scores do not always reflect into the emulator FPS. Also there is a 'DoT' in almost all ROMs, what does that means? Well DoT stands for slowDown on Touch, yeah it makes no sense but it stuck. When running the emulator if the phone detects no input from the touch screen the FPS slow down by approximately 40%, that's what DoT means, I had to keep touching the screen to get full FPS, only on Citrus this was not the case, and I was getting full FPS with no input whatsoever.
So what all this means? Surely we always like to see higher numbers, I know do. But with time I have found that higher numbers are not necessarily better, or that it does not translate to better performance, battery life or SoT, stability, features, etc., for example in Oreo ROMs I always liked more how colors showed in the screen, even though we have KCAL in Nougat ROMs too. Also I ran these benchmarks only once, so they are not one hundred percent accurate. Usually more runs = more score accuracy, so take these with a grain of salt.
For fun I decided to OC the CPU when using Citrus 3.5, set Adreno boost to high (honestly don't know what it does just that it boosts something related to the GPU I guess haha) and even when the benchmarks didn't improve that much (actually it got a worse multi core CPU score) I got better Dolphin FPS, and that just proves my point.
And that was just one real world test which I think it's heavier on the CPU. I would like to test an intensive GPU game and get some data on that. Also, numbers don't say much when talking about customization and features, so to really feel a ROM you have to test it out yourself.
It would have been awesome if I had have the time to test more ROMs or kernels, I just picked some ROMs from the Telegram group and some here randomly. But! That means that there is more out there for you to try out! As I said in a post this morning: That just means you have a lot of options to choose from and have fun installing, customizing and using the ROMs in your phone.
So yeah, had fun doing this and wanted to share. A HUGE thanks to all the developers out there! Thank you for giving life to our device! :highfive:
EDIT. Please forgive my english, I'm still learning

Great info , thanks :fingers-crossed:

Cypher OS Oreo download link please!

sanketp60 said:
Cypher OS Oreo download link please!
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Sure! It has the 'Now Playing' feature, really neat.
Download
Thanks to the Lenovo ZUK Z2 - Portal Telegram group for the link.

Avan7 said:
Sure! It has the 'Now Playing' feature, really neat.
Download
Thanks to the Lenovo ZUK Z2 - Portal Telegram group for the link.
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Any bug around there in that rom?

suggestion for best gaming and battery friendly rom.

kashyapp said:
Any bug around there in that rom?
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Actually I just installed and ran the benchmarks right away, so I couldn't really say about bugs or share an overall experience.
amit gaikwad said:
suggestion for best gaming and battery friendly rom.
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I think the most battery friendly ROM would be stock. However custom ROMs keep improving, so that's awesome. Other than that, this was just an experiment to get some numbers therefore I can't really say about battery.
There are so many factors, like battery drain on light and moderate usage and heavy CPU and/or GPU usage, deep sleep, hpereat, stability, user experiencie, etc.
It is hard to measure these with benchmarks alone.

Fascinating post, thank you for doing this!! I just bought this device for 7k refurb (approx 100$), should easily last a year or more.
Would it be possible to do a run with the Pixel Experience rom? Or is that one similar to the other ones you've already done? Just doing my research on this device and the various roms, its blowing me away how much horsepower exists in this thing for the low price!

Whats Citrus 3.5 OC?
Link Anyone?

Thanks for the comparison. But I was wondering, AEX is arguably the most popular ROM for Z2, so why skip that one?

frozenfirevr said:
Thanks for the comparison. But I was wondering, AEX is arguably the most popular ROM for Z2, so why skip that one?
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+1
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sanketp60 said:
Whats Citrus 3.5 OC?
Link Anyone?
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Citrus 3.5 by miju but with an OC applied with the custom Kernel Adiutor for the Z2
frozenfirevr said:
Thanks for the comparison. But I was wondering, AEX is arguably the most popular ROM for Z2, so why skip that one?
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I understand and the reason is that I decided to try a batch of ROMs I hadn't tried before. I wanted to try many more, but time didn't allow it. Perhaps sometime close I'll do another run :fingers-crossed:

Very interesting! Thanks for your time.
Im considering to flash jaguar... im now on aex 5.2 but seems that jaguar is smoother and run good. Waiting for new latest builds to test this two and decide.

Avan7 said:
I understand and the reason is that I decided to try a batch of ROMs I hadn't tried before. I wanted to try many more, but time didn't allow it. Perhaps sometime close I'll do another run :fingers-crossed:
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Cool, thanks. Mind sharing your experience with each of the ROM also, if you spent any time with them? Have you chosen any one?