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[Q] Fastest Rom (I know another Rom question)

I want to know which is THE fastest rom available for the MT4G. I dont care about features or sense or whatever, all thats important to me is performance. Thederekjay can score 4200 with o/c, i can too. So please people, tell me what rom will help me achieve that uber score!

There are things even less meaningful than Quadrant scores, but there are only few of them.
Judging the speed of ROM by Quadrant score is about as meaningless as it gets.
You want speed? Overclock.
How much? As much as your phone allows, and as much as you're willing to go risking to burn your phone very soon.
What good will it do? Probably nothing.

tristan6100 said:
I want to know which is THE fastest rom available for the MT4G. I dont care about features or sense or whatever, all thats important to me is performance. Thederekjay can score 4200 with o/c, i can too. So please people, tell me what rom will help me achieve that uber score!
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Quadrant means little to nothing in the real world. It's completely and udderly bogus numbers to make you think you are getting what you want to get.
And here is a perfect example why. I under clocked my phone [768Mhrz] and still hit 2k+ on the Quadrant.
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How did i do that. Easily. the program is easily hackable VERY hackable.

Give Faux123's Rom a shot. I can't quote quadrant scores at you because I don't use that, but I can tell you that it's one of the most stripped down, fastest Roms I've flashed onto my phone. And his latest kernel will let you overclock to over 2gig.

AlanB412 said:
Give Faux123's Rom a shot. I can't quote quadrant scores at you because I don't use that, but I can tell you that it's one of the most stripped down, fastest Roms I've flashed onto my phone. And his latest kernel will let you overclock to over 2gig.
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I would have to agree with you on this. The fastest rom is going to be the most stripped down rom capable of overclocking the highest. I tried this once and got pretty high quadrant scores. Prettty much any AOSP based rom is going to give you high scores though.

MIUI is my daily driver. I used CM and FAUX's Rom's but MIUI runs the best IMHO.
Also ran Unity and several others. Still, MIUI is the best for ME.

alright well thanks guys, im probably gunna try faux aosp rom and ill compare with my current cm7 nightly, ill also compare between thederekjays kernel and fauxs. thanks again

After using almost every single ROM, I can confidently say that when it comes solely to speed, FAUX's ROM is blazing fast.

eqjunkie829 said:
I would have to agree with you on this. The fastest rom is going to be the most stripped down rom capable of overclocking the highest. I tried this once and got pretty high quadrant scores. Prettty much any AOSP based rom is going to give you high scores though.
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Let me remind everyone that high freqs pretty much 1.7GHz+ aren't very stable, now 2GHz has a very high power draw and can cause the phone to lockup completely...MIUI/CM7/FAUX would be the top picks as the quickest ROMS, I use MIUI. It's very fast, the cpu governor/cpu speeds you use will also contribute to how quick a ROM will be...Use lower speeds and get more life, but less speed...Or more speed, and receive a shorter life span.

+1 for fauxs aosp rom and thederekjays miu rom w/ demon speed mod. I'd also recommend thederekjays port of preghostchili rom from g2 forums, it is way overthemed but stupid fast and full of built in tweaks and options enabled thru terminal. I myself use it as my daily and have hit 4129 on quadrant using tdj's kernel.
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d12unk13astard said:
+1 for fauxs aosp rom and thederekjays miu rom w/ demon speed mod. I'd also recommend thederekjays port of preghostchili rom from g2 forums, it is way overthemed but stupid fast and full of built in tweaks and options enabled thru terminal. I myself use it as my daily and have hit 4129 on quadrant using tdj's kernel.
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wow, now that sounds pretty nice, ill flash that once i get the time and ill post some results

Why you so concerned bout the quadrant score, trying to impress someone?
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

If you like Sense try Virtuous Unity Beta and to make it faster try the No-sense script in the Desire HD forum to remove Sense launcher and other Sense bloatness. You can get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993475 and make sure you setup the lockscreen the way you want it before flashing the script because as of now the personalize menu doesnt work.

Mr.Highway said:
Why you so concerned bout the quadrant score, trying to impress someone?
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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I think that's so...Sadly he feels High score=Speed/Perf, but it's really Speed=/=Quadrant score. It's possible to fake a score of 100000 if you hack quad, people have hacked it before. But quad doesn't actually tell you about actual real life performance, which I think matters more. If you really want more speed than just overclock, 1ghz is enough-but do 1.4+ and it's pretty much overkill. For the most speed use performance governor, 1 homescreen, and install no other apps at all and use no widgets. And make the wallpaper a sold color with no scrolling, and don't use any b/g accounts at all.

Why does everyone always get so upset when someone wants to focus on getting a high quadrant score?! He can do what he wants with his own phone and enjoy it how he wants. I used to be concerned about quadrant too until I realized I don't care that much about how fast a rom runs as much as how cool it looks.
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I live in the real world and use my phone to do real world tasks. I care about 1 thing and 1 thing only. How my phone performs day to day.
If I'm taking credit card payments with Square and prepping an invoice using MobileBiz while also sending emails, making calls and sending texts to clients, or simply taking pictures and video of my 6 month old son, I want it to run smooth. No lag, no hang-ups. Just work. Plain and simple.
MIUI does that and gives me 1 day 22 hours of it. All while running 1017/122 Superbad.
If you people are concerned about how long you can play Angry Birds, go load up Quadrant and run your favorite fart apps while pulling 8000 in Quad and brag all you want.

Holy crap guys whats with all the hate?!?!? To me quadrant is a tool to define the speed of a rom. Whaf i meant is that the higher score u get the faster it is. So if Thederekjay got 4200 its cuz whatever hes running is fast and would.want the performance. I know that the rom isnt whay entirely defines the speed of the phonr but its a majot part of the combination (kernel, OC, governor, vm optimisations). I just wanted the fastest phone so that i would experience the less lag possible while on.my phone and playing games. I only refered to quadrant because it is tool for me to compare my phones performance while testing roms, tweaks, kernels etc. So no its not for bragging
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YOU think it's not for bragging. YOU think the tool's results are valid info.
In fact, you're wrong, and the tool's results don't mean a thing, and the correlation between them and the actual ROM speed barely exists.
That's what most people tried to explain to you in this thread.

Jack_R1 said:
YOU think it's not for bragging. YOU think the tool's results are valid info.
In fact, you're wrong, and the tool's results don't mean a thing, and the correlation between them and the actual ROM speed barely exists.
That's what most people tried to explain to you in this thread.
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well it sounded more like ppl wanted me to shut up because bragging about your phone is gay but thats not was i was trying to do.

No one complains when a dev posts a screenshot of a quadrant score in a ROM they put out....douchebags.

[OC][UV] EPIC 4G Overclocking Data Roundup

Hey overclockers!
We have pushed this hardware so far beyond what it was originally designed to do. All other ICS-capable phones seem to have either faster-clocked or dual-core CPU. Overclocking seems to be a critical factor in pushing the limits of this device even further, to run the OS versions of the future and still perform smoothly without lag. So....
How about we share some OC/UV settings? Things like the following:
Voltage required for stable overclock at a certain frequency
Max stable frequency
What OC and testing apps do people recommend?
Which CPU Governor and I/O scheduler give you the best results?
Benchmark & stability test results
Kernel
ROM
Yes, I know OC/UV performance varies on every specific piece of silicon out there. But it would still be interesting to be able to compare OC with others to see if you're even in the ballpark. For example -- I'm perfectly stable at up to 1300Mhz and 1350mV vCore. I get app FCs and spontaneous reboots at 1500MHz even at up to 1525mV vCore. Is that better or worse than others? Is it really the OC that is causing the issue? Seems to be, cause it stops happening when I disable 1500Mhz.
If you overclock, please post your data here. Whichever data you like. Just please include your Kernel and ROM also, so that we can compare apples to apples.
Note: I am not actually encouraging anyone to overclock. There is always some risk involved, and it does technically void your warranty and can break your phone (but so can a lot of things ).

OC/UV Data
Max stable voltage/frequency - 1300Mhz @ 1350mV
OC app - Voltage Control Extreme
Stability testing app - LinPack
CPU governor - lagfree
I/O scheduler - noop
Kernel - SAMURAI.TANTO.CM9.MTD.02.15.02.35
ROM - CM9 Alpha 3

[*]Max stable voltage/frequency - 1400Mhz @ 1325mV
[*]OC app - Voltage Control, tegrak overlook ultimate
[*]Stability testing app - LinPack, smarkbench, quadrant standard
[*]CPU governor - conservative
[*]I/O scheduler - deadline
[*]Kernel - the newest Shadow Kernel MTD
[*]ROM - same setting on every ROM I use.
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I don't use 600Mhz, 900Mhz, 1100Mhz, or the 1300Mhz frequencies. And I undervolt everything. I also change the internal voltages to Rodderik's Genocide kernel defaults.
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christophocles said:
Max stable voltage/frequency - 1300Mhz @ 1350mV
OC app - Voltage Control Extreme
Stability testing app - LinPack
CPU governor - lagfree
I/O scheduler - noop
Kernel - SAMURAI.TANTO.CM9.MTD.02.15.02.35
ROM - CM9 Alpha 3
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Max stable voltage/frequency - 1500 @ 1425mV
Oc App - Voltage Control Extreme
Stability Testing - N64oid* takes a lot to run this sucker so this is my benchmark* especially with Zelda
CPU Gov - Interactive (the best one I've used fast when you need it and low when your idle)
I/O - VR
Kernel - Samurai Tanto
ROM CM9
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I usually just OC to 1200 on whatever the stock voltage is set to. Sometimes I run it a little higher when playing N64oid.

[*]Max stable voltage/frequency - 1500mhz - 1500mv
[*]OC app - Voltage Control, Control Freak
[*]Stability testing app - LinPack, smarkbench, quadrant standard
[*]CPU governor - Lagfree
[*]I/O scheduler - VR
[*]Kernel - Samurai cm7 1.27.12
[*]ROM - CM7.2 #44
However my everyday overclock is 1200mhz at 1350mv. I run this normally because this is the freq our processors were built to be able to run max. Sammy underclocked us for battery life since competition was only at 1ghz at the time. Normally I run the performance gov but lately this has been getting the cpu stuck at 800mhz. I have the epic touch 1800mah battery so I don't really have to worry about battery life.
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My phone runs perfectly up to ~1.3Ghz. At ~1.4 freezing and crashing starts.
The voltage in my kernel for 1.3ghz is 1350. I don't mess with it.

I'm going start making my max frequency 1.2 now I can uv it to 1275mV sweet so far no freeze up broswer test time .
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I don't believe your op. Mine runs fine on ics @ 1ghz
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!

marcusant said:
I don't believe your op. Mine runs fine on ics @ 1ghz
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!
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I don't either but it runs smoother on 1.2
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Biggoron said:
I don't either but it runs smoother on 1.2
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Just look at these quads
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My epic is blazing

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Just look at these quads
My epic is blazing
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Lol epic touch
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marcusant said:
I don't believe your op. Mine runs fine on ics @ 1ghz
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!
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Just keep telling yourself that. Lol
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xopher.hunter said:
Just keep telling yourself that. Lol
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I agree with him. I've tried overclocking and my phone can easily run 1.5ghz stable. Definitely boosts performance but not in any way that's entirely necassary (other than showing off, benchmarks, killing your battery faster, and shortening the life of your hardware). My phone runs perfectly smooth on stock cm9.
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Vizzo said:
I agree with him. I've tried overclocking and my phone can easily run 1.5ghz stable. Definitely boosts performance but not in any way that's entirely necassary (other than showing off, benchmarks, killing your battery faster, and shortening the life of your hardware). My phone runs perfectly smooth on stock cm9.
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I must be biased because of my epic touch battery. I can go performance 100/1500 with screen brightness all the way up and get the same battery life as the stock battery @ stock freq's.
Hypothetically if you guys get the sprint galaxy nexus @ 1.5ghz would you underclock it to 1.0ghz just because it works "fine"?
You guys need to stop being a slave to "stock" cpu frequencies and your battery. The hummingbird was designed to do 1.2ghz @ 1350mv.
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xopher.hunter said:
I must be biased because of my epic touch battery. I can go performance 100/1500 with screen brightness all the way up and get the same battery life as the stock battery @ stock freq's.
Hypothetically if you guys get the sprint galaxy nexus @ 1.5ghz would you underclock it to 1.0ghz just because it works "fine"?
You guys need to stop being a slave to "stock" cpu frequencies and your battery. The hummingbird was designed to do 1.2ghz @ 1350mv.
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Thanks
I rather have it 1250mV though
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marcusant said:
I don't believe your op. Mine runs fine on ics @ 1ghz
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!
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I admit it's just my opinion. ICS "runs fine" at 1ghz. It's "tolerable". But IMO there is noticeable lag so it's not what I would call "good performance". I posted the settings for my phone that I have found to give me acceptable performance for my setup. Stock CPU frequency did not perform acceptably to me, so that's why I said that overclocking is a critical feature.
The UI lag is affected greatly by the CPU clockspeed but that's definitely not the only factor involved. It depends how many widgets you have on your homescreen, how many apps are running in the background, whether those currently running apps are stored on the SD card or not, how fast your SD card is with random reads/writes, your I/O scheduler, and other factors. For example, I noticed a big improvement in responsiveness and loading times simply by switching to noop scheduler (UI felt much snappier than with VR or CFQ). I also store a lot of apps on the SD card so I bought a 32gb Class 4 Sandisk microSD card because benchmarks show it has better 4K random write performance than the stock Samsung 16gb card, and I think that made a big improvement also.
I think we are already pushing the limits of this device simply by running ICS with its greater amount of eye candy and swooshiness. That's before we even start to run backgrounded apps like trillian, twidroyd, juicedefender, batterymonitor, and pandora all simultaneously with gps navigation in the foreground. All of this is doable, even with this phone's single core processor and RAM, but it's much more pleasant to do with an overclocked CPU. I know, because it's what I do with my phone every day. Sure, it nukes the battery, but I don't care because I'll just swap another one in when it dies and I care more about using my phone's capabilities than keeping it alive for 24 hours without charging. When I am out in the woods away from a charger I turn all this off and go into low power mode.
YMMV, of course
xopher.hunter said:
I must be biased because of my epic touch battery. I can go performance 100/1500 with screen brightness all the way up and get the same battery life as the stock battery @ stock freq's.
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I'm confused here. Do you mean you put an Epic 4G Touch battery in an original Epic 4G and get increased life? Or you actually use a Touch?

christophocles said:
I'm confused here. Do you mean you put an Epic 4G Touch battery in an original Epic 4G and get increased life? Or you actually use a Touch?
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The epic touch battery fits in the OG epic just fine just its a little snug. However there are three major reasons why I got it
1. It has 1800mah, 300 more than stock
2. It is made in japan vs china (better battery tech)
3. My year old stock battery is not in good health (remember EF02 that **** got hot
You can find it on amazon for 18$ shippped
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xopher.hunter said:
The epic touch battery fits in the OG epic just fine just its a little snug. However there are three major reasons why I got it
1. It has 1800mah, 300 more than stock
2. It is made in japan vs china (better battery tech)
3. My year old stock battery is not in good health (remember EF02 that **** got hot
You can find it on amazon for 18$ shippped
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Rather have a 3500mah for 15$ but that's my thoughts...
6-7 hours display of heavy straight usage over 13 hours...love my hyperion ahem both of them
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I use the Epic Touch battery. I'm not saying anything horrid against overclocking I'm just saying cm9 works for me smooth as butter and I've found no need for it. I don't even get lag playing games like GTA3 or MC3 so I don't have a need to stress the hardware or consume more battery. To each their own but my cm9 runs just fine as is.
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Possibility of GPU OC @ more than 487mhz?

Well, as we all know, the the Adreno 320 on the s4 pro is barely capable enough for our device's resolution.
A lot of new games like Dead trigger 2 and Dead effect are struggling to provide decent framerates. Over clocking the cpu does not improve
anything. (I disabled thermal throttling to ensure the processors are not being throttled down)
So, we do need more Graphics prowess.
If thermal problems will arise by doing so, why don't we just UC the cpu and OC the GPU? Then do a mild undervolt.
Well, do you guys think the same as I do?
Will you not find it awesome to see devs implementing GPU OC of more than
487mhz? Or is it just not possible hardware wise?
Let's all talk about it here.
EDIT:
It seems like Riptide GP 2 is struggling as well, and it's not even at max settings..

tiktakt0w said:
Well, as we all know, the the Adreno 320 on the s4 pro is barely capable enough for our device's resolution.
A lot of new games like Dead trigger 2 and Dead effect are struggling to provide decent framerates. Over clocking the cpu does not improve
anything. (I disabled thermal throttling to ensure the processors are not being throttled down)
So, we do need more Graphics prowess.
If thermal problems will arise by doing so, why don't we just UC the cpu and OC the GPU? Then do a mild undervolt.
Well, do you guys think the same as I do?
Will you not find it awesome to see devs implementing GPU OC of more than
487mhz? Or is it just not possible hardware wise?
Let's all talk about it here.
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How high fps do you get in dead trigger 2?
EDIT:
Just tried one level in that game, and the average FPS was 48.
Thats on stock cpu/gpu clock and no uv or ov, and with thermald enabled.
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I also didnt see any sort of lags in it It didnt feal at all as the device was having problems having enough power in that game.

tiktakt0w said:
Well, as we all know, the the Adreno 320 on the s4 pro is barely capable enough for our device's resolution.
A lot of new games like Dead trigger 2 and Dead effect are struggling to provide decent framerates. Over clocking the cpu does not improve
anything. (I disabled thermal throttling to ensure the processors are not being throttled down)
So, we do need more Graphics prowess.
If thermal problems will arise by doing so, why don't we just UC the cpu and OC the GPU? Then do a mild undervolt.
Well, do you guys think the same as I do?
Will you not find it awesome to see devs implementing GPU OC of more than
487mhz? Or is it just not possible hardware wise?
Let's all talk about it here.
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wtf?!
the s4 pro is moar than capable.
yeah well on my Xperia Z (s4 pro too) there is a kernel with 627 mhz gpu oc, but for what?
This chipset only has a lot heating problems,no performance problems, nuff' more.
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anders3408 said:
How high fps do you get in dead trigger 2?
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Just tried one level in that game, and the average FPS was 48.
Thats on stock cpu/gpu clock and no uv or ov, and with thermald enabled.
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I also didnt see any sort of lags in it It didnt feal at all as the device was having problems having enough power in that game.
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I forgot to mention that it is perfectly playable on default settings, try enabling the "Very high" settings from options and you'll understand why I made this thread in the first place. (on dead trigger 2 and dead effect)
Tommy-Geenexus said:
wtf?!
the s4 pro is moar than capable.
yeah well on my Xperia Z (s4 pro too) there is a kernel with 627 mhz gpu oc, but for what?
This chipset only has a lot heating problems,no performance problems, nuff' more.
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Why don't you try download DT2 and repeat the steps above?
I assure you, the frame rates will be choppy enough for you to tone down the settings again.

Very high settings are clearly intended for a higher end phone then.

tiktakt0w said:
I forgot to mention that it is perfectly playable on default settings, try enabling the "Very high" settings from options and you'll understand why I made this thread in the first place. (on dead trigger 2 and dead effect)
Why don't you try download DT2 and repeat the steps above?
I assure you, the frame rates will be choppy enough for you to tone down the settings again.
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Nope, everything smooth
But as i said i don't oen a find 5, only a z

Tommy-Geenexus said:
Nope, everything smooth
But as i said i don't oen a find 5, only a z
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That explains everything, go ahead and post at your respective device' forum.
batwingnz said:
Very high settings are clearly intended for a higher end phone then.
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That's why I've been telling that we need more gpu grunt. :silly:

Needs more grunt

batwingnz said:
Needs more grunt
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tiktakt0w said:
That explains everything, go ahead and post at your respective device' forum.
That's why I've been telling that we need more gpu grunt. :silly:
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Oc a mobile phone should never be done. There is a reason why Qualcomm limits the CPU and GPU to those MHz and since that is almost the only thing that will break the warranty on find 5 I really hope oc as high as that won't happens. I really think that the oc that's made for now is as high as it should be and future improvements needs to be found else where
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anders3408 said:
Oc a mobile phone should never be done. There is a reason why Qualcomm limits the CPU and GPU to those MHz and since that is almost the only thing that will break the warranty on find 5 I really hope oc as high as that won't happens. I really think that the oc that's made for now is as high as it should be and future improvements needs to be found else where
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Thanks for the insight Anders!
I was just hoping to see a slight bump in mhz, 500-525mhz not 600+ or something.

tiktakt0w said:
Thanks for the insight Anders!
I was just hoping to see a slight bump in mhz, 500-525mhz not 600+ or something.
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That's way to much I think , stock GPU freq is 320 MHz iirc always remember its a phone , not a pc also the limitations will be the SoC at the end but it should be able to improve a bit without a higher freq, will test that game again later on to see what freq I can do at that settings
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anders3408 said:
That's way to much I think , stock GPU freq is 320 MHz iirc always remember its a phone , not a pc also the limitations will be the SoC at the end but it should be able to improve a bit without a higher freq, will test that game again later on to see what freq I can do at that settings
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Thanks! Please do.
Btw, isn't the stock clock @ 400Mhz???

[TIP] Increase gaming performance

The N7 is an amazing tablet, but lets face it, the S4 Pro and Adreno 320 GPU really aren't up to the task when it comes to gaming on such a high resolution screen. Graphically intensive games just don't run as well as they should. So I did some digging and testing, and found an app that lets you lower your screen resolution, thus decreasing the strain on the GPU and increasing gaming performance. When changing the resolution to 800x1280, I found a noticeble increase in framerate in 3D games such as Riptide GP 1+2, NOVA 3, and Modern Combat 5, and the games still look great. You're not going to want to leave the resolution set that low all the time because it does make everything else look pretty bad, but when you're going to play a game, it only takes a second to set the resolution and start playing. It's a paid app (there are free ones that do the same thing, but I've had the best luck with this one), but considering the gains, it's worth every penny of the $1.99 asking price. Here's the link- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lugalabs.resolutionchanger
So, give it a shot and let me know how it works out for you.
Here's some before and after 3D benchmarks-
Before-
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I wonder how this works? It appears you can change the resolution and the DPI seperately. I wonder if this has a development thread somewhere?
Resolution is a ridiculous game these days. 1080P on a 7" screen is crazy. I have 1080P on my 50" TV. The old Nexus 7 2012 had a great resolution for the size. Additional resolution is just wasted resources.
So you just changed the Resolution but kept the DPI the same? Does it do it automatically? Is this App specific or system wide? Does it affect normal desktop graphics?

player911 said:
I wonder how this works? It appears you can change the resolution and the DPI seperately. I wonder if this has a development thread somewhere?
Resolution is a ridiculous game these days. 1080P on a 7" screen is crazy. I have 1080P on my 50" TV. The old Nexus 7 2012 had a great resolution for the size. Additional resolution is just wasted resources.
So you just changed the Resolution but kept the DPI the same? Does it do it automatically? Is this App specific or system wide? Does it affect normal desktop graphics?
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All I did was change resolution, the app changed the DPI to 213 automatically when I changed the res. And it is system wide so it's not something you are going to want to set and leave at all times because you definitely can see it everywhere else. I change it before playing and change it back when I'm done.

My advice ist to use the phenomal Glitch Kernel, with that you can oc your GPU. This performance game perfomance is phantastic with 600mhz.

pk-sanja said:
My advice ist to use the phenomal Glitch Kernel, with that you can oc your GPU. This performance game perfomance is phantastic with 600mhz.
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I generally like to remain stock nowadays, but I'll check out that kernel. You can't argue with that score.

_MetalHead_ said:
I generally like to remain stock nowadays, but I'll check out that kernel. You can't argue with that score.
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I know what you mean, but check it out .

I don't think our tablet is old for today's games yet. If the SoC was really an S4 Pro, than it would have come with an Adreno 320 which has 24 work pipes (something like parallel processor design which directly effects parallel processing and high resolution picturing, experts will explain better). But this SoC is actually a Snapdragon S600 which comes with a 32 work piped Adreno 320.
The S4 Pro is designed for 720p screens but this one is prepared for 1080p.
Besides, it's possible to OC it to almost 650MHz from 400 (the day this is necessary will come soon I guess).
PS: somehow lollipop seems to have trouble in games even though it is way better at everything else..
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_delice_doluca_ said:
I don't think our tablet is old for today's games yet. If the SoC was really an S4 Pro, than it would have come with an Adreno 320 which has 24 work pipes (something like parallel processor design which directly effects parallel processing and high resolution picturing, experts will explain better). But this SoC is actually a Snapdragon S600 which comes with a 32 work piped Adreno 320.
The S4 Pro is designed for 720p screens but this one is prepared for 1080p.
Besides, it's possible to OC it to almost 650MHz from 400 (the day this is necessary will come soon I guess).
PS: somehow lollipop seems to have trouble in games even though it is way better at everything else..
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This came from necessity, I play a ton of games and the N7 doesn't handle the big ones as well as I'd like it to. I never would have looked into this if it ran them perfectly. But I am also 100% stock, so I haven't tried OC'ing the GPU. Honestly, last night when I did this the thought to flash a custom kernel and OC the GPU didn't even cross my mind.

pk-sanja said:
My advice ist to use the phenomal Glitch Kernel, with that you can oc your GPU. This performance game perfomance is phantastic with 600mhz.
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What app are you using to change the settings? TricksterMod or FauxClock? Flashing the kernel now.
And what L2/Cache OC setting do you recommend?
Edit: I'm still on 4.4.4 and there's two options for the latest kitkat kernel- 226 and 226 disabled AVS, do you know which one I should flash?

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What app are you using to change the settings? TricksterMod or FauxClock? Flashing the kernel now.
And what L2/Cache OC setting do you recommend?
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This kernel comes with an Aroma installer, so you can set directly the settings you want during the installer. No need for a kernel manager app.
I recommend the settings that i get from Tk-Glitch, CPU 1,7 GHz with glitchy OC Bus, GPU 600mhz and undervolt-150mV.

pk-sanja said:
This kernel comes with an Aroma installer, so you can set directly the settings you want during the installer. No need for a kernel manager app.
I recommend the settings that i get from Tk-Glitch, CPU 1,7 GHz with glitchy OC Bus, GPU 600mhz and undervolt-150mV.
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Thanks for the info bud, I appreciate it. Just installed the kernel and my N7 hasn't exploded yet so that's a good sign.

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Thanks for the info bud, I appreciate it. Just installed the kernel and my N7 hasn't exploded yet so that's a good sign.
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You're welcome .

You use be talking about N7 2012 because my 2013 runs games perfectly.

kindofabuzz said:
You use be talking about N7 2012 because my 2013 runs games perfectly.
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They run fine, but some graphically intensive games don't have smooth framerates. Yours may be wonderful, but I know I'm not the only person on the planet that thinks there's room for improvement.

pk-sanja said:
This kernel comes with an Aroma installer, so you can set directly the settings you want during the installer. No need for a kernel manager app.
I recommend the settings that i get from Tk-Glitch, CPU 1,7 GHz with glitchy OC Bus, GPU 600mhz and undervolt-150mV.
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Do you also undervolt de GPU or leave it default -25mV? And what about Enable max MC power savings? Checked or unchecked?

idCyber said:
Do you also undervolt de GPU or leave it default -25mV? And what about Enable max MC power savings? Checked or unchecked?
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Yes, i use -150mV for GPU. In my case, i don't usw MC power savings, so let it unchecked.

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Yes, i use -150mV for GPU. In my case, i don't usw MC power savings, so let it unchecked.
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I will try to experiment with all the settings, one step at a time as your settings freeze my tablet after a few seconds after launching a game. You are lucky to be have it stable with those settings

idCyber said:
I will try to experiment with all the settings, one step at a time as your settings freeze my tablet after a few seconds after launching a game. You are lucky to be have it stable with those settings
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Try -100mV for the GPU.

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Try -100mV for the GPU.
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Tried even with no GPU undervolting and still froze. I figured out that 545 is the maximum my GPU can handle, dunno if this is stable in the long run ( -100mV, 10minutes of testing)

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Tried even with no GPU undervolting and still froze. I figured out that 545 is the maximum my GPU can handle, dunno if this is stable in the long run ( -100mV, 10minutes of testing)
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Typical silicon luck . 545 is also quiet impressive .

Maximizing the X Play - GeekBrnch3

Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!
EDIT: Moderator - could you please edit the title of the post and correct the typo? GeekBench, not Brnch. Thanks!
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Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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K.khiladi said:
Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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Hey pal. Thanks for your feedback. Nice to see your response. I'll try it out as you suggest. I've been running a bunch of tests and it's looking like I hover around 740-50 single and 2700-50 multi. I've changed the configuration to default squid, so interactive governor and aggressive frequency settings. Needless to say the performance sure is snappy. Hahaha.
I'll likely revert to lionfish 800 on both clusters but this interactive snappiness is tempting...

Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...

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Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.

AtomicStryker said:
Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...
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What's your setup, Atomic?

Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
OC Kernel with interactive and row 256kbps

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.
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Interactive. Base frequencies on both clusters 200. Overcharged squid kernel.
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Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
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Cm seems to be set for higher benchmarks.
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag

TxaEkis said:
If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag
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Interactive is a great governor yeah. Thanks for your response regarding the ROM. I hear that CM13 is still a little shaky on the X Play but maybe I'll try the next release just to compare. I'll try a full discharge from 100% with default squid's OC kernel values. If I can still get >7 hours SOT with that setup and snappy performance I'll be thrilled.

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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K.khiladi said:
This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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Nicely said. Performance and stability are key for me. Battery life too. Haha. I just love the X Play for that battery. 5 hours SOT and 21%. So lovely.

I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:

squid2 said:
I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:
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Hey squid,
Looks interesting. I think CM13 is definitely worth a look. I think I'll try the next release. Thanks for explaining the customizations/optimizations you've done.

Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.

AtomicStryker said:
Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.
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Battery life is quintessential for me, too. I was hoping to strike a balance between performance and battery (hence the Optimal Setup thread) and am still trying to discern what the best setup is to meet my requirements.
I'd like to try a custom ROM at some point, but that's my curiosity more than anything.
Battery life on the X Play can't be beat! That's why I got it.

Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother

flashallthetime said:
Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother
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Yep. I'd expect that. Still though - if properly customized this phone can really fly.