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[Q] Fastest Rom (I know another Rom question)

I want to know which is THE fastest rom available for the MT4G. I dont care about features or sense or whatever, all thats important to me is performance. Thederekjay can score 4200 with o/c, i can too. So please people, tell me what rom will help me achieve that uber score!

There are things even less meaningful than Quadrant scores, but there are only few of them.
Judging the speed of ROM by Quadrant score is about as meaningless as it gets.
You want speed? Overclock.
How much? As much as your phone allows, and as much as you're willing to go risking to burn your phone very soon.
What good will it do? Probably nothing.

tristan6100 said:
I want to know which is THE fastest rom available for the MT4G. I dont care about features or sense or whatever, all thats important to me is performance. Thederekjay can score 4200 with o/c, i can too. So please people, tell me what rom will help me achieve that uber score!
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Quadrant means little to nothing in the real world. It's completely and udderly bogus numbers to make you think you are getting what you want to get.
And here is a perfect example why. I under clocked my phone [768Mhrz] and still hit 2k+ on the Quadrant.
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How did i do that. Easily. the program is easily hackable VERY hackable.

Give Faux123's Rom a shot. I can't quote quadrant scores at you because I don't use that, but I can tell you that it's one of the most stripped down, fastest Roms I've flashed onto my phone. And his latest kernel will let you overclock to over 2gig.

AlanB412 said:
Give Faux123's Rom a shot. I can't quote quadrant scores at you because I don't use that, but I can tell you that it's one of the most stripped down, fastest Roms I've flashed onto my phone. And his latest kernel will let you overclock to over 2gig.
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I would have to agree with you on this. The fastest rom is going to be the most stripped down rom capable of overclocking the highest. I tried this once and got pretty high quadrant scores. Prettty much any AOSP based rom is going to give you high scores though.

MIUI is my daily driver. I used CM and FAUX's Rom's but MIUI runs the best IMHO.
Also ran Unity and several others. Still, MIUI is the best for ME.

alright well thanks guys, im probably gunna try faux aosp rom and ill compare with my current cm7 nightly, ill also compare between thederekjays kernel and fauxs. thanks again

After using almost every single ROM, I can confidently say that when it comes solely to speed, FAUX's ROM is blazing fast.

eqjunkie829 said:
I would have to agree with you on this. The fastest rom is going to be the most stripped down rom capable of overclocking the highest. I tried this once and got pretty high quadrant scores. Prettty much any AOSP based rom is going to give you high scores though.
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Let me remind everyone that high freqs pretty much 1.7GHz+ aren't very stable, now 2GHz has a very high power draw and can cause the phone to lockup completely...MIUI/CM7/FAUX would be the top picks as the quickest ROMS, I use MIUI. It's very fast, the cpu governor/cpu speeds you use will also contribute to how quick a ROM will be...Use lower speeds and get more life, but less speed...Or more speed, and receive a shorter life span.

+1 for fauxs aosp rom and thederekjays miu rom w/ demon speed mod. I'd also recommend thederekjays port of preghostchili rom from g2 forums, it is way overthemed but stupid fast and full of built in tweaks and options enabled thru terminal. I myself use it as my daily and have hit 4129 on quadrant using tdj's kernel.
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d12unk13astard said:
+1 for fauxs aosp rom and thederekjays miu rom w/ demon speed mod. I'd also recommend thederekjays port of preghostchili rom from g2 forums, it is way overthemed but stupid fast and full of built in tweaks and options enabled thru terminal. I myself use it as my daily and have hit 4129 on quadrant using tdj's kernel.
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wow, now that sounds pretty nice, ill flash that once i get the time and ill post some results

Why you so concerned bout the quadrant score, trying to impress someone?
From my fist to your face, enjoy.

If you like Sense try Virtuous Unity Beta and to make it faster try the No-sense script in the Desire HD forum to remove Sense launcher and other Sense bloatness. You can get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993475 and make sure you setup the lockscreen the way you want it before flashing the script because as of now the personalize menu doesnt work.

Mr.Highway said:
Why you so concerned bout the quadrant score, trying to impress someone?
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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I think that's so...Sadly he feels High score=Speed/Perf, but it's really Speed=/=Quadrant score. It's possible to fake a score of 100000 if you hack quad, people have hacked it before. But quad doesn't actually tell you about actual real life performance, which I think matters more. If you really want more speed than just overclock, 1ghz is enough-but do 1.4+ and it's pretty much overkill. For the most speed use performance governor, 1 homescreen, and install no other apps at all and use no widgets. And make the wallpaper a sold color with no scrolling, and don't use any b/g accounts at all.

Why does everyone always get so upset when someone wants to focus on getting a high quadrant score?! He can do what he wants with his own phone and enjoy it how he wants. I used to be concerned about quadrant too until I realized I don't care that much about how fast a rom runs as much as how cool it looks.
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I live in the real world and use my phone to do real world tasks. I care about 1 thing and 1 thing only. How my phone performs day to day.
If I'm taking credit card payments with Square and prepping an invoice using MobileBiz while also sending emails, making calls and sending texts to clients, or simply taking pictures and video of my 6 month old son, I want it to run smooth. No lag, no hang-ups. Just work. Plain and simple.
MIUI does that and gives me 1 day 22 hours of it. All while running 1017/122 Superbad.
If you people are concerned about how long you can play Angry Birds, go load up Quadrant and run your favorite fart apps while pulling 8000 in Quad and brag all you want.

Holy crap guys whats with all the hate?!?!? To me quadrant is a tool to define the speed of a rom. Whaf i meant is that the higher score u get the faster it is. So if Thederekjay got 4200 its cuz whatever hes running is fast and would.want the performance. I know that the rom isnt whay entirely defines the speed of the phonr but its a majot part of the combination (kernel, OC, governor, vm optimisations). I just wanted the fastest phone so that i would experience the less lag possible while on.my phone and playing games. I only refered to quadrant because it is tool for me to compare my phones performance while testing roms, tweaks, kernels etc. So no its not for bragging
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YOU think it's not for bragging. YOU think the tool's results are valid info.
In fact, you're wrong, and the tool's results don't mean a thing, and the correlation between them and the actual ROM speed barely exists.
That's what most people tried to explain to you in this thread.

Jack_R1 said:
YOU think it's not for bragging. YOU think the tool's results are valid info.
In fact, you're wrong, and the tool's results don't mean a thing, and the correlation between them and the actual ROM speed barely exists.
That's what most people tried to explain to you in this thread.
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well it sounded more like ppl wanted me to shut up because bragging about your phone is gay but thats not was i was trying to do.

No one complains when a dev posts a screenshot of a quadrant score in a ROM they put out....douchebags.

Show your Antutu Score!

Hey there,
i just used Antutu to benchmark my wildfire and was shocked that there were wildfires in the list that scored higher than 1200 points, how is that possible? i want that too
Anyway!
My current score:
907 Points
System:
- CM7 (JIT on, compcache off)
- max. 768Mhz (smartassV2)
- all data on internal space
- supercharged

gozzaa said:
Hey there,
i just used Antutu to benchmark my wildfire and was shocked that there were wildfires in the list that scored higher than 1200 points, how is that possible? i want that too
Anyway!
My current score:
907 Points
System:
- CM7 (JIT on, compcache off)
- max. 768Mhz (smartassV2)
- all data on internal space
- supercharged
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I run this test just because I was bored. But our phone is ''NOT'' in the list. Its a different phone called wildfire ''S''
But there are many ways that can improve your score on the app (Don't see the point tho as phone is so old and without gpu) try different gov's eg. Performance and you can get a faster sd card eg class 10 (as it collects points for sd reads and writes)

My Antutu score is 932
CM7 build 14 (I find it the most stable one out there)
CPU MAX 768
CPU MIN 748
PERFORMANCE Governor
Compcache 18%
JIT enabled
Surface dithering enabled
Purging of assists enabled
VM HEAP SIZE 32m
Sent from my CM7 powered HTC Wildfire.

Some Info
you can compare wildfires once you have benchmarked your own, under the ranking category, top at the mo seems to have a score of 6126 but that also has a CPU speed of 1200 MHz otherwise there are more realistic ones further down, but i mannaged 1087 score with my wildfire which is still on a stock ROM lol, but as stated SD card makes a difference, i have installed an 8Gb class 10 samsung and modified the cache. But none the less, i have a lot of apps and not much RAM free so i found my score supprising compared with other wildfires. And remember, benchmarks dont represent ability in day to day use or even heavy use, they just give a theoretical overview.
But if you do want to improve your wildfire with visible results and not just numbers, i would recommend some of the below
A Class 10 Memory Card
Increase the cashe size of the memory card (improves Read/Write) but not too far i have found problems at higher values apps like SD speed boost are nice
Task Killer, automatic ones are good and save you effort :L
Overclock and undervolt with a governor appropriate for your use, this gives massively improved performance on demand and save battery when that performance is not required
New ROM, athough i have not done this personaly there are many a report of speed improvements due to less bloatware on ROM's like cyanogenmod
Move apps to SD not so much a speed thing but if you have a fast card then it saves internal space with no loss in performance
Apps like Optimize toolbox, Set CPU and memory booster helped with these.
so i am sure if i flashed a new ROM i could get my score up to 1100 at least if not further and there are things i have not tried yet so i would not say a score of 1200 is out of reach and you could probably go further, but not 6126 as antutu seems to think :L
if there is anything i have missed please tell me and i will add to the list, hope this helps

Mine tested for fun as I don't give a monkeys about it.
HTC wildfire: LeWaOs

Too lazy to screenshot
Score: 856
ROM: KoolSense
CPU:352-710MHz interactive governor

Rempuzzle, 748-768 performance, however I normally use 176-768 conservative.
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My total score was 958 using cm7 rc3
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Using Rempuzzle 2.71
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One S with Krait S4:
Was a little disappointed since my brother with a Sensation running Sense 4.0 got in the 7000's!
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usaff22 said:
One S with Krait S4:
Was a little disappointed since my brother with a Sensation running Sense 4.0 got in the 7000's!
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Holy **** at that resolution O. O
Barely fits on my tablets screen in portrait mode.
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usaff22 said:
One S with Krait S4:
Was a little disappointed since my brother with a Sensation running Sense 4.0 got in the 7000's!
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Nice..........
Here's my s2 atm, I got 6200 ish before rooting and installing paranoid android rom so I've lost a bit on this benchmark.
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nejc121 said:
Holy **** at that resolution O. O
Barely fits on my tablets screen in portrait mode.
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What resolution is your tablet? This One S is 960*540 but the One X and Galaxy Nexus screenshots don't even fit on my laptop screen!
Scratch0805 said:
Nice..........
Here's my s2 atm, I got 6200 ish before rooting and installing paranoid android rom so I've lost a bit on this benchmark.
I think mine dropped after I installed many apps, during my "app rush" stage. That was when I was so crazy about apps since I had to limit myself on the Wildfire or I'd have to sacrifice one app to get another lol!
Maybe when I root this phone, after it gets Revolutionary S-OFF (Only option is HTCDev now which I don't trust) I can get TrickDroid or the unofficial CM9 Alpha10!
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My score: 1067
Oxygen 2.3.2 with Juwe Ram script
768-176 performance
normal i use 729-518 SmartassV2
score: 1062

usaff22 said:
What resolution is your tablet? This One S is 960*540 but the One X and Galaxy Nexus screenshots don't even fit on my laptop screen!
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It's 1024x600
Here's it's benchmark.
And HTCDev ain't that bad.
Unlocked my dad's Evo3D and his coworker's Evo3D using that. :silly:

nejc121 said:
It's 1024x600
Here's it's benchmark.
And HTCDev ain't that bad.
Unlocked my dad's Evo3D and his coworker's Evo3D using that. :silly:
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The elf has cm9? Awesome. I might get one to replace my bricked T01.
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Justice™ said:
The elf has cm9? Awesome. I might get one to replace my bricked T01.
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It's actually for the Novo7 Aurora, but the tablets are practically the same, save for the IPS display on the Aurora.
There's also a Ubuntu and ICS dualboot ROM, but that one does need a hardware keyboard atleast once (Just for the first login, you can get an onscreen one later)
Otherwise, the Elf II did come out recently, but that one doesn't have any ROMs yet :silly:

Seems my problem was the gpu was set to 276mhz Max, changed that to 400mhz and it jumps up a 1000+ points.

Scratch0805 said:
Seems my problem was the gpu was set to 276mhz Max, changed that to 400mhz and it jumps up a 1000+ points.
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So was it underclocked at first or was it the stock clockspeed and you wanted to OC it?

It has a Mali 400 if I'm not mistaken, just downloaded ex tweaks to setup something else and noticed the Max gpu speed was 276 so it must have got underclocked somewhere along the way.
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V6 supercharger for jellybean

I've been testing supercharger for jellybean for about a day now and I have noticed a boost in performance so I'd thought I'd pass it on.
I'm on cm10 jellybro 8/17 with air kernel #201 non bigmem and noticed the difference immediately after the reboot. Apps seem to open quicker and the phone doesn't lock up as much when multitasking. Also, even though it says I'm only 50% supercharged and I have a weak launcher I still haven't gotten a launcher redraw since running the script but IMA test that more for sure.
I installed all the tweaks it asks if you want before you get the part where you pick the oom groupings :including the 3g speed hack and I chose the moderate 512 HP I think its option 6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276/
Hope this helps: )
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Good to know...I tried a while ago and restored my backup since it said I was only 50%. I might have to give it another shot
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jeremy112683 said:
Good to know...I tried a while ago and restored my backup since it said I was only 50%. I might have to give it another shot
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Do some research... As supercharger doesn't really boost your Nexus. It's more for low end devices with little rom. If you haven't had bigmem then maybe you'd feel it yes, I'm running new rasbeanjelly with bedalus and it runs soo smooth with at least 160 mb free ram
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kwibis said:
Do some research... As supercharger doesn't really boost your Nexus. It's more for low end devices with little rom. If you haven't had bigmem then maybe you'd feel it yes, I'm running new rasbeanjelly with bedalus and it runs soo smooth with at least 160 mb free ram
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Hate to break it to you but by modern standard the NS is low end. ICS and JB were built mainly for a device with a GB or more of RAM so every last byte counts.

kwibis said:
Do some research... As supercharger doesn't really boost your Nexus. It's more for low end devices with little rom. If you haven't had bigmem then maybe you'd feel it yes, I'm running new rasbeanjelly with bedalus and it runs soo smooth with at least 160 mb free ram
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How low end? I heard the same thing when people were testing it on the epic touch which is understandable but for a phone with 512mb running a big os? Yes every little bit helps
Btw I did do my research thanks
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Its not going away any time soon.
Nexus 7 and SGSIII users complain of lag after awhile and supercharging fixes it... as usual.

I, too, can confirm that the Supercharger works good on JB. Running the latest Codename with Air Kernel, supercharger does make a difference I've found but only when multitasking. Disappointing though to still see the occasional launcher redraw, but it's not that big a deal.
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zeppelinrox said:
Its not going away any time soon.
Nexus 7 and SGSIII users complain of lag after awhile and supercharging fixes it... as usual.
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You've just reminded me to root my N7, lol. Great work with supercharger btw
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You can easily afford to bulletproof the launcher if you have a redraw here or there

genaro12543 said:
I've been testing supercharger for jellybean for about a day now and I have noticed a boost in performance so I'd thought I'd pass it on.
I'm on cm10 jellybro 8/17 with air kernel #201 non bigmem and noticed the difference immediately after the reboot. Apps seem to open quicker and the phone doesn't lock up as much when multitasking. Also, even though it says I'm only 50% supercharged and I have a weak launcher I still haven't gotten a launcher redraw since running the script but IMA test that more for sure.
I installed all the tweaks it asks if you want before you get the part where you pick the oom groupings :including the 3g speed hack and I chose the moderate 512 HP I think its option 6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276/
Hope this helps: )
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You need to use the Jellyscreampatcher to patch files to patch files to get 100%, use this thread to guide you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869663
let me know if this helps you

i will try this supercharger too :good:.

Anyone has tangible numbers to represent the improvement? Anything that could be proven as not placebo?
The supercharger makes me think of kids ricing their Civics or a bad commercial with erroneous/random capitalization, funny made up words and flashy colors.
SuperCharger! BulletProof! Die-Hard! Hard To Kill! SuperClean! Cust-OOM! 3G TurboCharger! Kick Ass Kernel Tweaks! MegaRAM!
Where's Vince from Shamwow when you need him eh?
Not saying it doesn't work, but this is the kind of talk clearly made to pickup sheeple rather than to expose facts. How information is presented doesn't really change the end result but changes the target population. Don't all get offended now.

Of those that actually used it, if I remember the math (too lazy to do it now):
50% say it's the best mod ever... It jumbs to...
65% when you add those that say Big Performance Boost... It jumps to...
80% when you add those that say Noticeable Performance Boost.
Are those numbers ok, Frenchy?

zeppelinrox said:
Of those that actually used it, if I remember the math (too lazy to do it now):
50% say it's the best mod ever... It jumbs to...
65% when you add those that say Big Performance Boost... It jumps to...
80% when you add those that say Noticeable Performance Boost.
Are those numbers ok, Frenchy?
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Boost™ with zOOM zOOM features?
That's a nice poll, but it's flawed in the sense people that will answer it are very likely users of the mod. Kinda like asking an Android user if he thinks Android is better than iOS. Wouldn't be surprised to see the majority answer YES there, and NO if asked on Apple boards.
Other than a poll, any other data to look at? Is the performance measurable in any kind of way?

And you fail to take into account that the majority of respondents have used other tweaks and mods.
This XDA...duh...
And yet, BEST MOD EVER was the most clicked response.
I see you just like to blow hot air and listen to yourself talk before actually knowing anything first hand.
Any more ignorant musings will only qualify as trolling and make you look stupider (I know it's not word but fits perfectly)

Can use supercharge v6 on NS4G? I
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zeppelinrox said:
And you fail to take into account that the majority of respondents have used other tweaks and mods.
This XDA...duh...
And yet, BEST MOD EVER was the most clicked response.
I see you just like to blow hot air and listen to yourself talk before actually knowing anything first hand.
Any more ignorant musings will only qualify as trolling and make you look stupider (I know it's not word but fits perfectly)
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Shall I gather that you fell down to insults because you're unable to bring anything else than a zany poll? :good:

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Somehow performance should be measured. However as this tweak is said to improve system smoothness and available ram I think it is difficult to measure it.
My own experience is that I don't feel the difference as my phone has enough ram available and never experience launcher redraw anyway.
But as the poll concludes, people say they feel the difference. Don't think all of these votes are fanboy votes so there must be improvements.
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Shall I gather that you fell down to insults because you're unable to bring anything else than a zany poll? :good:
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I stated a fact.
You've been trolling.
Nothing you have posted in this thread has benefited any single molecule in the entire universe.
I brought something.
You've brought NOTHING but BS.

You failed statistics in high school didn't you? We could go on and on, and I could troll all day, but so far only kwibis has tried to justify the use of supercharger through a coherent approach.
You're the biggest troll here, touting all sorts of improvements without being able to calmly back it up with anything else other than a ridiculously flawed poll. You step low enough to get insulting and try to nit pick on someone to discredit them rather than to work on a way to prove your claims. And yes, there's actually a way to test for UI smoothness just as there's a way to test for UI animations. You should try to improve your scientific approach a bit instead of getting your panties in a bunch and getting huffy at the first non believer. I swear it'll help you in life as a whole.

Maximizing the X Play - GeekBrnch3

Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Hi all,
I've recently installed the overclocked kernel from squid and am having some trouble reaching the same benchmarks that he has hit. I am running stock MM with row 128 I/O and adreno-tz on the GPU. CPU is lionfish with min frequencies 800 on both clusters. I think squid is running CM13.
I consistently score between 680-740 single and 2680-2800 multi. Does this look about right for stock MM with the overlooked kernel?
Any help maximizing this would be greatly appreciated. I know these scores have (probably) very little to do with real-world use but if I can get more out of my device then why not.
Thank you for any insight!
EDIT: Moderator - could you please edit the title of the post and correct the typo? GeekBench, not Brnch. Thanks!
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Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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K.khiladi said:
Try with simple on demand in gpu.
I will try this app today.
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Hey pal. Thanks for your feedback. Nice to see your response. I'll try it out as you suggest. I've been running a bunch of tests and it's looking like I hover around 740-50 single and 2700-50 multi. I've changed the configuration to default squid, so interactive governor and aggressive frequency settings. Needless to say the performance sure is snappy. Hahaha.
I'll likely revert to lionfish 800 on both clusters but this interactive snappiness is tempting...

Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...

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Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.

AtomicStryker said:
Exactly 700 and 2700 with the oc kernel, stock brazil mm. Not even kidding. Although i sincerely doubt anything but a "native" extension can accurately measure a device performance, there is too much virtual machine and abstractions between hardware and software. Then again, this limitation applies to almost all apps, eg the normal usecase...
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What's your setup, Atomic?

Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
OC Kernel with interactive and row 256kbps

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Looks to be about mine as well. What's your setup?
I got similar scores with lionfish, 800 both clusters. OCed kernel.
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Interactive. Base frequencies on both clusters 200. Overcharged squid kernel.
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TxaEkis said:
Running
Temasek's CM 4.1
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Cm seems to be set for higher benchmarks.
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Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag

TxaEkis said:
If you are happy with stock don't bother as you won't even notice those extra points in the benchmark. I changed roms for the extra features and cm themes and i was getting random lag until i changed to interactive and row, now is very smooth and zero lag
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Interactive is a great governor yeah. Thanks for your response regarding the ROM. I hear that CM13 is still a little shaky on the X Play but maybe I'll try the next release just to compare. I'll try a full discharge from 100% with default squid's OC kernel values. If I can still get >7 hours SOT with that setup and snappy performance I'll be thrilled.

XxMikeMasterxX said:
Yeah does it ever. Stock gives me max 770 single 2815 multi. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of ROM switching to get those extra points. Would I really see the performance difference?
Although I am tempted to try a new ROM. Would be fun...so long as I use Titanium Backup properly. Hahaha
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This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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K.khiladi said:
This is miniscule difference. It doesn't create a great performance difference between stock and custom Roms. The benchmarks most of the time shows the raw power of the device but the optimisation of the software also is needed.
You can try custom Roms to get extra functionality but there are still bugs in them.
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Nicely said. Performance and stability are key for me. Battery life too. Haha. I just love the X Play for that battery. 5 hours SOT and 21%. So lovely.

I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:

squid2 said:
I had carefully tuned CM13 to get the best performance out of this device, so it and derivatives will give better performance than the defaults in stock. You can see some of my configuration here: https://github.com/moto8916/android_device_motorola_lux/blob/cm-13.0/rootdir/etc/init.target.rc Beyond that, some higher level parts of the ROM are better optimized on custom ROMs than stock, so that also improves performance.
For reference, here is my last score with the new (OC) kernel:
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Hey squid,
Looks interesting. I think CM13 is definitely worth a look. I think I'll try the next release. Thanks for explaining the customizations/optimizations you've done.

Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.

AtomicStryker said:
Frankly, i couldn't care less about some number a synthetic benchmark spits out. The number 1 consideration is how long the battery lasts, then (a long way off) how quickly "heavy" apps such as firefox launch. Last i read CM13 isn't as good as stock at conserving power.
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Battery life is quintessential for me, too. I was hoping to strike a balance between performance and battery (hence the Optimal Setup thread) and am still trying to discern what the best setup is to meet my requirements.
I'd like to try a custom ROM at some point, but that's my curiosity more than anything.
Battery life on the X Play can't be beat! That's why I got it.

Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother

flashallthetime said:
Moto x play is no slough, I just ran a test between my nexus 6 and MXP,
Most apps actually open faster on the moto x.
Scrolling through Web pages and g+ the nexus 6 is smoother
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Yep. I'd expect that. Still though - if properly customized this phone can really fly.

[6045*][GUIDE]Battery-efficient Alcatel Idol 3

Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
If you seek a more detailed and more specific guide for battery life,check out the thread by nero curin
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Credits to the creators of L Speed and Ex Kernel Manager. .-----.​

The Marionette said:
Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
Credits to the creators of L Speed and Ex Kernel Manager. .-----.​
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hi marionette
thanks for your hardwork
but in the kernel CM 12.1 RANDOM REBOOT FIX when i set the settings and kill the app and restart the app the cpu is going to 1497 mhz ??

Alek Dev said:
hi marionette
thanks for your hardwork
but in the kernel CM 12.1 RANDOM REBOOT FIX when i set the settings and kill the app and restart the app the cpu is going to 1497 mhz ??
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It isn't about the tweaks,that kernel has buggy frequencies which stay at max.
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The Marionette said:
It isn't about the tweaks,that kernel has buggy frequencies which stay at max.
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i know the problem it's with the kernel not tweks,which kernel did you suggest to doesn't have reboots... and tweak work

Alek Dev said:
i know the problem it's with the kernel not tweks,which kernel did you suggest to doesn't have reboots... and tweak work
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Well...
The only kernel which is working properly is the newest one.
But you can try taking a kernel from older cm builds,one of the kernels has to work with your variant.
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The Marionette said:
Well...
The only kernel which is working properly is the newest one.
But you can try taking a kernel from older cm builds,one of the kernels has to work with your variant.
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Its weird, I've installed the 4/3 build several different times, one time i only had to go back to stock because i screwed something up messing with permissions to get viper to work but on that particular flash i had working data and only one sim icon for a few days. Today when getting sick of stock and trying to go back to that 4/3 build all of a sudden i got 2 sim icons and wonky data. Ive tried to reflash a few times thinking it'd fix but nope. Wonder why its so random.
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The Marionette said:
Hello everyone!
I was asked by several members to make a guide which has a goal of extending the battery life of our beloved phone.
So,without further ado...
The apps I use are Ex Kernel Manager and L Speed,therefore the first thing to do is to,of course,get your hands on those two apps!
Here is the setup I use,shown on screenshots(who would want to bother reading tons of things,or even write them):
Credits to the creators of L Speed and Ex Kernel Manager. .-----.​
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Thanks for this.....works great. 3 days in and no problems, and definite improvement. I am on fixed income, but have had ROM Toolbox Pro, and was able to use performance settings to make adjustments without buying another app. Very much appreciated! :good: (60450, stock rooted, Xposed, Adaway, removed Seeder in case of conflicts, PIA VPN)

dongarritas said:
Thanks for this.....works great. 3 days in and no problems, and definite improvement. I am on fixed income, but have had ROM Toolbox Pro, and was able to use performance settings to make adjustments without buying another app. Very much appreciated! :good:
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Yeah,I discovered that Kernel Auditor can be used to shut down several CPUs.
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The Marionette said:
Yeah,I discovered that Kernel Auditor can be used to shut down several CPUs.
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I've used Kernel Adiutor a few times, but I could never get the settings to stay put. The Big cpu always managed to change my min and max settings whenever it felt like it. I just went on ahead and bought ex kernel manager just so I wouldn't have to pull my hair out using the previous program.

kingoftheafro said:
I've used Kernel Adiutor a few times, but I could never get the settings to stay put. The Big cpu always managed to change my min and max settings whenever it felt like it. I just went on ahead and bought ex kernel manager just so I wouldn't have to pull my hair out using the previous program.
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Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.

The Marionette said:
Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
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Kernal audiutor usually seems better then ex but I've had Adiutor change things back to stock, so I always save a profile.
I'm pretty happy with the way the darkness governor handles things for big cpu. (for mine)
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The Marionette said:
Ahhhhh.
You can use Kernel Auditor to shut down CPUs. With it,only 2 CPUs of each cluster are online(2 at max-1300 and min-800,other two at max-900 and min-800.
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Yeah I've done that a few times but the program itself I didn't really enjoy using in conjunction with lspeed also. I'd rather use whatever the devs and builders use to ensure I get the best out of each build.
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Well I've had the same issues on this build using the ex kernel manager and the exact settings you listed. The kernel decides to boost up to max whenever it feels like it and set on boot doesn't change anything. I'm getting annoyed with this phone. It's like I got a cursed one that just doesn't feel like being tweaked. I don't know what else to do at this point. I'm not getting any better battery life than before. Honestly I think it actually got worse. I think I'm just gonna go back to stock and not mess. With this thing anymore. I'm about to throw it out the second story window of my house.
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kingoftheafro said:
Well I've had the same issues on this build using the ex kernel manager and the exact settings you listed. The kernel decides to boost up to max whenever it feels like it and set on boot doesn't change anything. I'm getting annoyed with this phone. It's like I got a cursed one that just doesn't feel like being tweaked. I don't know what else to do at this point. I'm not getting any better battery life than before. Honestly I think it actually got worse. I think I'm just gonna go back to stock and not mess. With this thing anymore. I'm about to throw it out the second story window of my house.
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Yea they boost what to max because of mpdecision (as I'm told) which is supposed to be like touch boost, but trust me I feel your pain because it's all the same problems for me to, I average 2 an ½ consistently no matter what I do. However, If you can get 3 hours + I don't think it's so bad, that's pretty average for most phones I've had. But big cores Always run the battery down for me, and if they don't, the little cores do because they stay high frequency all the time making up for the big ones. It's like it honestly does have a mind of its own.
The best battery life I got so far is just over 3 hours, and I always use the OC Kernel because most others reboot for me or run more erratically, so if you haven't tried the OC yet I'd say give it a shot before you ditch back to stock.
Tho news with marshmallow on the way it might be worth waiting for on stock...
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tbkrazeey said:
Yea they boost what to max because of mpdecision (as I'm told) which is supposed to be like touch boost, but trust me I feel your pain because it's all the same problems for me to, I average 2 an ½ consistently no matter what I do. However, If you can get 3 hours + I don't think it's so bad, that's pretty average for most phones I've had. But big cores Always run the battery down for me, and if they don't, the little cores do because they stay high frequency all the time making up for the big ones. It's like it honestly does have a mind of its own.
The best battery life I got so far is just over 3 hours, and I always use the OC Kernel because most others reboot for me or run more erratically, so if you haven't tried the OC yet I'd say give it a shot before you ditch back to stock.
Tho news with marshmallow on the way it might be worth waiting for on stock...
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Yeh the news about getting MM was awesome. I average about the same screen on time as you do, around 2.5 hours. The only rom I didn't have issues with battery wise was the i806 oc build from unjustified, but because it hasn't been updated I started having boot issues. I think I'm gonna see about going back to a previous 12.1 marionette build I was using that gave me around 4-5 hours screen on time or just revert to stock rom with underclock kernel.

kingoftheafro said:
Yeh the news about getting MM was awesome. I average about the same screen on time as you do, around 2.5 hours. The only rom I didn't have issues with battery wise was the i806 oc build from unjustified, but because it hasn't been updated I started having boot issues. I think I'm gonna see about going back to a previous 12.1 marionette build I was using that gave me around 4-5 hours screen on time or just revert to stock rom with underclock kernel.
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I wanted to do stock with underclock for battery life specifically but underclock reboots for me :/ I know that has to be the best chance for battery life with it
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tbkrazeey said:
I wanted to do stock with underclock for battery life specifically but underclock reboots for me :/ I know that has to be the best chance for battery life with it
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I just did that and had the same experience. Reboots for days. I guess when we finally get MM more debs will pop up and support for the phone will rise again. Right now it seems development has stopped and we are relying on build after build. If I was smart enough I'd give development a shot.
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kingoftheafro said:
I just did that and had the same experience. Reboots for days. I guess when we finally get MM more debs will pop up and support for the phone will rise again. Right now it seems development has stopped and we are relying on build after build. If I was smart enough I'd give development a shot.
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Your variant should be nearly the same as mine, just locked to a carrier and mine isn't, so more then likely they have the same likes and dislikes when it come to kernels. And yea hopefully mm will spin things up again.
I've been considering attempting to learn some stuff to help with development myself, I have a tiny bit of experience with stuff but not a lot, but everyone has to start someone, it's either you can learn it or you can't...
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