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is x worth buying?

thinking abiout getting x.. is it worth it?

The Droid X?
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If you can get a Droid X for a good price, you should take the opportunity.
It's very good device with many rom options. You won't be disappointed.
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Depends on the price. And read up on it before you do and know what you're getting into, or the community just might drive you crazy. Great support for how old it is, but you will be hearing about the bootloader until your head explodes.
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kilus said:
thinking abiout getting x.. is it worth it?
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Im sure there are people that will dissagree with me but I love my dx and have had very little trouble with it. If you can get it cheap go for it why not there are some good roms out there if you dont like the stock system. Lately I have flashed alot of different roms on it and its really not bad to work with I'm still having fun with it

I'd have to say, after about 18-19 months with one, you should pass. I'd get an HTC Incredible/2, or Thunderbolt. I had a lot of problems with mine, and I'm actually on my 3rd replacement device. I've had strangers tell me of similar problems.
I've had much better luck since rooting and installing Liberty ROM v3, but overall I'd say there are better devices out there.
I've also sworn off Motorola for good, or at least until they get rid of Blur. They really know how to ruin a good piece of hardware. It's just terribly slow and unstable. If you get a DX, plan on rooting and flashing something else onto it.
Oh, and as another user has already mentioned, the bootloader can cause problems, especially with the latest update. You have to avoid update .621 if you want to flash a different ROM onto it. I don't think other devices are as problematic in this regard.

OK for a good price. It is a little larger than most phones (a little big to place in a pocket .)

I'm not sure if you're talking from a straight user perspective or someone who is going to muck around a bit with their phone customizing it. For a straight user who isn't going to root it and/or go beyond what Verizon wants you to do with it then I'd say you should skip it and just get whatever new mid to top of the line Android is within your budget.
If you're looking for a phone you can muck around with and truly customize on the cheap then I would definitely recommend the X, especially since you can pick them up for about $100 off of craigslist

mikecico said:
I'd have to say, after about 18-19 months with one, you should pass. I'd get an HTC Incredible/2, or Thunderbolt. I had a lot of problems with mine, and I'm actually on my 3rd replacement device. I've had strangers tell me of similar problems.
I've had much better luck since rooting and installing Liberty ROM v3, but overall I'd say there are better devices out there.
I've also sworn off Motorola for good, or at least until they get rid of Blur. They really know how to ruin a good piece of hardware. It's just terribly slow and unstable. If you get a DX, plan on rooting and flashing something else onto it.
Oh, and as another user has already mentioned, the bootloader can cause problems, especially with the latest update. You have to avoid update .621 if you want to flash a different ROM onto it. I don't think other devices are as problematic in this regard.
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I have to disagree with this guy. First off it doesn't matter if the device has blur or not because you can install a custom rom that is ASOP and doesn't even have blur. Motorola in my opinion makes the best hardware and just because the bootloader is locked doesn't mean you can't do a lot with the device. This forum is DEAD for the droid x. Look on rootzwiki and you will find a ICS gem named Gummy rom from Kejar. You won't be disappointed.

As others have mentioned it depends on your situation. If you're looking for a phone to purchase for cheap without a contract, then yes, the X might be one to look at.
Personally if I had to look for something cheap right now my search would be for something with an unlocked bootloader, some decent ROM support and decent battery life.
I am guessing the Incredible 2 might fit that bill.... I'm not sure of any issues the phone may have natively but it is a more powerful phone. Probably would be a bit more expensive though.
NOTE: IF YOU BUY A DROID X AND INTEND TO ROOT/ROM (you should be planning this b/c the stock Droid X is slow and clunky) MAKE SURE IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED TO SYSTEM VERSION .621.
.605, .602, .596, .595, .340, etc are all fine.

Prack said:
I have to disagree with this guy. First off it doesn't matter if the device has blur or not because you can install a custom rom that is ASOP and doesn't even have blur. Motorola in my opinion makes the best hardware and just because the bootloader is locked doesn't mean you can't do a lot with the device. This forum is DEAD for the droid x. Look on rootzwiki and you will find a ICS gem named Gummy rom from Kejar. You won't be disappointed.
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Actually, I think we're agreeing. I was saying if you get one, plan to flash it and get rid of Blur.
I've had hardware issues with it also, but overall, with the right Custom ROM, it can be a good experience.
As someone else has noted, if you aren't planning to root/flash this phone, you're better off with a more user-friendly device, like a Samsung or an HTC.
But, again, just my $0.02.

I still have a Droid X purchased in the release date and I never had problems with, however is getting outdated and becoming slow so it will be replaced by a HTC Rezound next week.
Great phone if you can find a cheap one in great shape. Lots of Dev community support.

Prack said:
I have to disagree with this guy. First off it doesn't matter if the device has blur or not because you can install a custom rom that is ASOP and doesn't even have blur. Motorola in my opinion makes the best hardware and just because the bootloader is locked doesn't mean you can't do a lot with the device. This forum is DEAD for the droid x. Look on rootzwiki and you will find a ICS gem named Gummy rom from Kejar. You won't be disappointed.
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I just reacquired my X after upgrading my wifes phone to a Bionic, and flashed Gummy ICS onto it. It's a georgous rom, works like a champ, and the phone FLIES with it. If you can get it cheap, go for it.

JoeyDVDZ said:
I just reacquired my X after upgrading my wifes phone to a Bionic, and flashed Gummy ICS onto it. It's a georgous rom, works like a champ, and the phone FLIES with it. If you can get it cheap, go for it.
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Are you using 0.9.0 or one of the later builds?
Just interested to see what people are running =D
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I'm running MIUI 4-5-2012 by Wizard0f0. It's the only currently maintained ROM that appears to be stable, fast AND have almost no bugs. Most of the other ROMs (including gummy) have to many bugs for my taste (like camera or MMS or Bluetooth not working properly)
That said, I'm keeping my eyes on gummy and a few others in hopes of a fast, stable, debugged ROM with slightly better battery life. I'm not holding my breath though b/c the other ROMs seem more focused on incorporating ICS framework than getting everything working as it should. Oh well, I guess we'll just wait and see.

Now i am using x if you getting this in a good price than you should buy it.. It is good because of its nice features ..You won't be disappointed...Don't think too much about that just buy it..

Yes. Good hardware,good RF ,big screen . Just note that the phone is a bit larger than most .

bamx2 said:
Yes. Good hardware,good RF ,big screen . Just note that the phone is a larger than most .
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I don't know as I'd necessarily agree with that. 4.3" really isn't that abnormally big any more. You have devices like the Galaxy Nexus, Razor, etc coming out now at every turn. They all seem to be going between 4" and 4.65" or something.

I have one I use on WiFi only, really happy with it. Would be happier with an unlocked bootloader.
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A crack flashers thoughts?

I currently have a G-Nex and started off flashing new ROMS fairly often, but as Android has matured I have found it less necessary to flash ROMS for performance purposes. I mainly flash ROMS now to try out various features ie Pie controls.
My question is any crack flasher out there buy the Moto X even though it will probably be limited in development? If so have you felt the need to flash ROMS or is the stock ROM stable/smooth enough to appease you? I know a dev version will be out eventually, but I'm wondering if it is necessary to wait for it.
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I was flashing my rom on my s4 about once a week if not more, sometimes a lot more. I've only had it two days but have not wanted to flash yet. I do want root though. The biggest thing I miss is paranoid android. I loved pie and being able to customize quick settings and pull down quick toggle from tip right of screen.
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I also really miss circle battery
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I just got the phone today.
I was a Galaxy Nexus user from launch day (Verizon). And let me tell you, the Moto X is AWESOME. The performance is incredible (I find it snappier than the GS4's I've played around with), the battery is far superior to what I had grown accustomed to on the GNex (and I haven't even gone through a full cycle yet, so it's just gonna get better!). The features like Active Notifications and Touchless Control are really nifty, especially the Active Notifications. Despite the screen being 4.7", the form factor is actually smaller than the Gnex which boggled my mind. I love how it feels in my hands.
At the moment, I'm not concerned about the lack of a dev community. I'm sure when 5.0 launches and I can't get a build running day of I'll be a little envious of the Nexus owners who do have it running (granted, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 so I'll at least be able to play with that haha). I do miss some things like Pie Controls, the Cyanogenmod MMS APK, having access to stuff like Titanium Backup and the like, but the positives with the Moto X far outweigh the stuff I miss. And who knows, someone might eventually crack the code and we might get the best of both worlds but until then, I'm more than pleased with this phone.

I used to be really bad but now all I want is root. Wouldn't mind a slightly custom rom to allow custom lock screen short cuts and get rid of the damn ATT logo but outside of that I really don't need anything that this phone doesn't offer.

All I miss is pie controls/full screen mode. Stock is smooth.
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tw1tch175 said:
I used to be really bad but now all I want is root. Wouldn't mind a slightly custom rom to allow custom lock screen short cuts and get rid of the damn ATT logo but outside of that I really don't need anything that this phone doesn't offer.
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I think some guys here have figured how to do that, we just need root on ATT

I was a crack flasher but i can bare to wait until we have root this stockish experience is amazing
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ShamanicEnzan said:
I think some guys here have figured how to do that, we just need root on ATT
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As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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flashallthetime said:
As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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Only AOSP roms, most devices have roms that stick pretty close to stock but give you a few tweaks to play with. That being said stock android really doesn't need much, the only thing I really want is customizable lockscreen shortcuts and a quick flashlight mod.

That's all available through xposed mods, the only thing I miss is the brightness slider.
Dual panel, full call screen pics, clock, battery, carrier label and more are all easily done with xposed. Cyanogenmod clock is available with an app
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MVPete1 said:
I just got the phone today.
I was a Galaxy Nexus user from launch day (Verizon). And let me tell you, the Moto X is AWESOME. The performance is incredible (I find it snappier than the GS4's I've played around with), the battery is far superior to what I had grown accustomed to on the GNex (and I haven't even gone through a full cycle yet, so it's just gonna get better!). The features like Active Notifications and Touchless Control are really nifty, especially the Active Notifications. Despite the screen being 4.7", the form factor is actually smaller than the Gnex which boggled my mind. I love how it feels in my hands.
At the moment, I'm not concerned about the lack of a dev community. I'm sure when 5.0 launches and I can't get a build running day of I'll be a little envious of the Nexus owners who do have it running (granted, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 so I'll at least be able to play with that haha). I do miss some things like Pie Controls, the Cyanogenmod MMS APK, having access to stuff like Titanium Backup and the like, but the positives with the Moto X far outweigh the stuff I miss. And who knows, someone might eventually crack the code and we might get the best of both worlds but until then, I'm more than pleased with this phone.
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Man that's good to hear. I have a GNote2 and was just getting tired of the big screen. I purchased the Moto X today and it seems like something that will satisfy my small phone craving. I will miss all the themes and titanium backup when rooted. So what you've just said puts my crack flashing needs at ease. Thanks. I do hope that someone is able to unlock the boot loader because after having a Droid X I thought I would never get a Motorola device again. I do wonder when the Developer Edition does become available if we will be able to trade in for one?
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All I want other than 4.3 (for trim) is root for adaway. Everything else is perfect on this device!
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No desire to flash a ROM with this phone. I just want to be able to use autostarts and TiB. Once we have root, it will be PERFECT.

Yeah I think the only thing I'd really want on the phone is 4.3 just because. I am curious though because it seems like Moto super optimized the kernel/software to run so smooth, I wonder if a custom rom would be unable to duplicate Moto's optimizations.

flashallthetime said:
As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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Yeah that's why I don't really want a bootloader unlock (it'd be nice) but rooting will let me do most of what I wanted.

Yeah the only thing I miss is root. Other than that its perfect. I have my nexus 7 for my flashing needs.
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robstunner said:
All I want other than 4.3 (for trim) is root for adaway. Everything else is perfect on this device!
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I've heard the Moto X already uses trim even though it's on 4.2.2. I'm getting a Verizon Moto X tomorrow. I can't believe I'm leaving the Nexus/Prepaid/Crackflasher lifestyle, but it's a long story.
I'm a dad and a very busy web/app developer, so I kind of look forward to no longer feeling the compulsion to constantly flash new ROMs. With the locked bootloader of the Verizon Moto X, I suppose that will help curb my urges
I've always loved how I can come to XDA, find a new ROM or mod, and suddenly my old smartphone feels like a new toy. I'm hoping that the Moto X will be such a solid device I can live without that somewhat time consuming and battery/stability endangering habit. Instead of being a leach on the Developer threads, I hope to become more of a contributor to other types of threads instead.

Was a crackflasher; constantly flashing ROMs to my S3 until I finally found a ROM I settled on (M.O.A.R) I love the near stock experience of the Moto X all I really want is root for adaway and it would be nice to get a ROM built off stock OTA with lockscreen tweaks and what not. Overall I'm loving this phone and can't get over how snappy this thing is!
On top of all that I don't have much time to mess with ROMs anymore as I am working full time and really need my phone to "just work" After a while you lose interest after setting up your phone for the millionth time! Coming from the S3 where AOSP was still very broken it is a nice change.

I was a frequent flasher, trying various ROMs on my Galaxy S3, and then Note 2, and then HTC One.
When I got the Moto X a few days ago I checked out the this new XDA forum section... and was (at the time) sad there were not alternative ROMs.
However, after a few days of use I discovered the Moto X stock ROM is GREAT! There really is nothing missing/annoying that would normally get me ROM hunting. Plus, there already is a XPosed module that offers some extra customization. And amazingly, the Rogers version of the phone has no bloatware at all that I can see.
So the great Moto X stock ROM has cured me of crack flashing!

I also am kind of happy to take a break from the crackflashing habit. My Note 2 was lucky to survive 3 days without me flashing some new ROM. I factory reset my X this morning due to a camera that wouldn't initialize here and there but I hope I can avoid that from here on out. Setting up everything again without Titanium Backup was a pain!!

The lack of development saddens me

Why? Is it because the phone is unpopular with the dev community, or because it's hard to build for this phone? There isn't even any UNofficial CyanogenMod being made.
This is why I love the Nexus line of devices.. so much development even before the product gets released. The lack of Moto X development is making me iffy about purchasing one

I had actually just assumed this would have had a ton of ROMs by now until I saw your thread pop up. I have to say visiting the dev section I'm shocked. It definitely crosses an X off my list as I was leaning G2 or One anyway.

agreed im trying to sell my x for a Nexus 5
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I feel ya. Got roped into joining Verizon and got the most Nexus like modern phone available (the X). At least the stock ROM is great. Once things slow down at my day job I'll see what I can do to help the Moto X Dev community. Seems that with Verizon I'll need to root and unlock just to get the normal updates other carriers get (without waiting sometime between 6 months and hell freezing over)
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Aokp is ramping up for a release, they have already released a few betas... No sprint though, only Verizon and T-Mobile and att
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DonDizzurp said:
Why? Is it because the phone is unpopular with the dev community, or because it's hard to build for this phone? There isn't even any UNofficial CyanogenMod being made.
This is why I love the Nexus line of devices.. so much development even before the product gets released. The lack of Moto X development is making me iffy about purchasing one
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Development takes time the device is still new. It won't have nearly as much as the nexus line bit people are working on it.

shane1 said:
Development takes time the device is still new. It won't have nearly as much as the nexus line bit people are working on it.
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I find it funny how people "demand" that there be development. I'd imagine that the phone is hard and somewhat unknown to work on with the X8 chipset....Time. all good things come with time. even if they dont all this phone needs is root and xposed.

DonDizzurp said:
Why? Is it because the phone is unpopular with the dev community, or because it's hard to build for this phone? There isn't even any UNofficial CyanogenMod being made.
This is why I love the Nexus line of devices.. so much development even before the product gets released. The lack of Moto X development is making me iffy about purchasing one
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unofficial releases were launched before most people even got dev editions fyi. Further,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481048
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484762
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/1...-now-available-gsm-unlocked-bootloaders-only/
and I'm sure a simple google search would produce plenty of things you might want to try. But having as much dev as we have already had is pretty good to men considering the type of phone, how new it is, and how late all of the software and builds got released.
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I find it funny how people "demand" that there be development. I'd imagine that the phone is hard and somewhat unknown to work on with the X8 chipset....Time. all good things come with time. even if they dont all this phone needs is root and xposed.
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agreed completely. Why would you expect a brand new phone with brand new chipset would magically get great roms. people have to learn what is going on just how the OP is learning that things come with time.

not like i miss the dev on this phone, i mean it's pretty much aosp
what else were you expecting?
most roms out there are aosp based

RorixRebel said:
not like i miss the dev on this phone, i mean it's pretty much aosp
what else were you expecting?
most roms out there are aosp based
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Yea I figure as long as we have root, the stock ROM should be good enough with Motorola's tweaks.

I've read a thread similar to this on all of my phones from the OG galaxy S (captivate). I would say give it some time, heck the dev edition only came out a few weeks ago.

The fact that its impossible to unlock the bootloader on the major carriers is another bottleneck as well. If/when theres a bootloader unlock, the development will come.

Are roms even necessary though? I've always been a terrible crack flasher, but this rom with xposed and gravity box it's pretty much cyanogen. I'm super happy with stock for the first time ever
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matt99017d said:
I find it funny how people "demand" that there be development. I'd imagine that the phone is hard and somewhat unknown to work on with the X8 chipset....Time. all good things come with time. even if they dont all this phone needs is root and xposed.
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jayboyyyy said:
unofficial releases were launched before most people even got dev editions fyi. Further,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481048
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484762
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/1...-now-available-gsm-unlocked-bootloaders-only/
and I'm sure a simple google search would produce plenty of things you might want to try. But having as much dev as we have already had is pretty good to men considering the type of phone, how new it is, and how late all of the software and builds got released.
agreed completely. Why would you expect a brand new phone with brand new chipset would magically get great roms. people have to learn what is going on just how the OP is learning that things come with time.
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The chipset is hardly anything new.. "X8" is just a marketing term.
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I enjoy not flashing roms all the time. I can finally personalize this phone and keep it that way. The only thing I miss is the cm themes.
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joshnichols189 said:
The chipset is hardly anything new.. "X8" is just a marketing term.
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oh so people have made roms for other phones with similar chipsets? I didn't know other similar phones existed. Learn something new everyday. Wonder why dev's didn't just create all the things the moto x can do themselves if those phones already had the ability...

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I enjoy not flashing roms all the time. I can finally personalize this phone and keep it that way. The only thing I miss is the cm themes.
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Check out the xposed theme engine
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jayboyyyy said:
oh so people have made roms for other phones with similar chipsets? I didn't know other similar phones existed. Learn something new everyday. Wonder why dev's didn't just create all the things the moto x can do themselves if those phones already had the ability...
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The Moto X uses a Qualcomm S4 Pro SoC. It was never anything special. Motorola just markets the additional processors as a whole to make the concept easier to understand. Development would be similar to any other new phone.
Porting popular ROMs while retaining the functionality of Active Notifications and Touchless Control may/may not be whole different ball game though.

The X is impressive for a standard carrier device, but nothing will beat a Nexus. I would say The X is, by far, the closest to stock you'll find (again, outside a nexus).
The Moto bloat is slipped in almost unnoticeably and the junk apps are easy to deal with (I actually find some of the 'bloat' well done, such as moto assist - though I still prefer tasker). Happiest off the shelf device I've had since the ogDroid, but hoping to get an N5 for real Dev stuff.

MajorTankz said:
The Moto X uses a Qualcomm S4 Pro SoC. It was never anything special. Motorola just markets the additional processors as a whole to make the concept easier to understand. Development would be similar to any other new phone.
Porting popular ROMs while retaining the functionality of Active Notifications and Touchless Control may/may not be whole different ball game though.
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They call it an S4 pro but its really a dual core SnapDragon 600. Its the the same CPU cores just 2 instead of 4 and still has the same quad core GPU.
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Flashaholics Anonymous

The first step was admitting I had a problem. It got so bad my girlfriend started to ***** about me ****ing with my phone so much. The Moto x has been my 12 step program because stock is so great on this phone. I used to be a fan of touchwiz since I'm an ex galaxy fan boy but now I see why I enjoy stock android, I can start from the beginning and build the experience myself. Any one else's flashoholism cured by this phone?
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My name is Mikel. I am an ex flashaholic. I used to enjoy living on the edge; always flashing the latest nightly. After countless wipes, restores, and close bricks, I can happily say I am now a recovering flashaholic. It has been 2 weeks since my last flash (pre moto x). Stay strong brothers
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I just want the latest edge software. We'll never get that.... How. I want to keep this phone, but how

Rather be a flashaholic than an alcoholic, look at my tag, always will be a flashaholic, bring on the roms
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I used to have problems with my gf and family since i kept losing the msgs, pics and contacts with all the flashing going on.
I'm off the hook now with the Moto X.
Aosp is simply the best i do admit i get small attacks and last one got my phone rooted and unlocked.
Keep strong brothers.
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mikel.canovas said:
My name is Mikel. I am an ex flashaholic. I used to enjoy living on the edge; always flashing the latest nightly. After countless wipes, restores, and close bricks, I can happily say I am now a recovering flashaholic. It has been 2 weeks since my last flash (pre moto x). Stay strong brothers
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LoL.
Funny topic to begin with but I love how you make it better by using a real AA type intro speech with "My name is _______. I am a ex _______."
Great speech btw. I hope you stay strong
As weird as it might sound I started at Xda with the Nexus One and have had various devices since then. Throughout it all I've never flashed, not once

ap3604 said:
LoL.
Funny topic to begin with but I love how you make it better by using a real AA type intro speech with "My name is _______. I am a ex _______."
Great speech btw. I hope you stay strong
As weird as it might sound I started at Xda with the Nexus One and have had various devices since then. Throughout it all I've never flashed, not once
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Lol, the sober guy that goes to the local bar because they have really good root beer.
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My name is Hubert J. Farnsworth, and I'm a ex-flashaholic.
My addiction began back in July of 2011 when I got my first smartphone, the Motorola X2. There weren't a lot of options (CM7, AOSP, Eclipse, and eventually CM9/10), but I could never get enough. I didn't care if I would lose personal data, texts, pictures, have to SBF my device, I wanted to see what other devs were doing. Due to restrictions (mainly a locked bootloader), the X2 couldn't fuel my rage, and I abandoned the device that brought me into the smartphone era, and went running to the Galaxy Nexus.
From the moment I powered on the device, I knew I was in paradise! Unlocked bootloader, check. Rooted, check. INSANE amount of devs, check. I would try anything to get my kicks. New rom all the time, tweaked kernels left and right, minimal or expansive GAPPS, and hell, even different recoveries.
One day, I'm browsing DroidLife, and I see Eric Schmidt holding this mystery device that has all the tech sites buzzing and it was love at first site. I thought to myself, "Wow, a phone with the rock solid hardware of Motorola and the pure sexiness of Google software, uninterrupted by some asshat at Samsung or LG painting over the UI like a four year old doing a finger-painting. This is the one."
Fast forward a month, and there I am, standing in the Verizon store, paying full price for my dream phone (don't want to loose unlimited data, duh). The experience is so amazing that I don't even think about rooting for over a month. Finally, the shine of a brand new device wears off, and I want to start tearing into this puppy. jcase releases a root, and bam, read-only protection is off. I can now do what I want, when I want. But I don't (beyond wireless tethering and Greenify, naturally). I don't need to. Why? I already have everything I need. And the few things I want can be fixed with Xposed. Motorola was brave, trying new things, like the always listening SoC and Moto Assist to name a few. The camera update comes, which causes a little hiccup with the root access, but nothing we can't work around.
So has the Moto X cured my addiction? In a way, yes. Why break something that isn't broken? Why reinvent the wheel? It's not necessary. This device has everything you need, and will be here for a while. Stay strong my friends, and the power of the Moto X can heal you, too.

Coming from a Gs3 and I loved flashing the phone with crazy Roms to test them out... When I got my ultra I loved the stockness of the phone. Some options are not available but at least we have root and gravity box.
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Well since I think this phone is perfect and doesn't need to have Roms installed daily...I still am a flashaholic so I will be getting a nexus 5 to curb my flashing needs.
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I dont need to go to rehab ..i dont have the addiction ...i can quit whenever i want ...yes i did try to flash toaster , but hey ...im only human
Sa sens le Rooting icite !!

The moto x may be a cure for most flashaholics, a cure for the need to root, it is not. To much bloatware. And I for one want what I want on MY phone.
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I agree, honestly I have a few requirements with a phone and root, If I don't have them I cant use the phone 1. tether unlock by freezing syncTEDC wich makes native tethering work, 2. titanium to delete bloat, and 3 clockwork mod to take backups incase something ****s up, if they ever made all that stock which they wont, I wouldn't need to root

My flashing days are behind me for at least a week, my phone was soft bricked today after flashing cm10.2 had to rsdlite to stock and start all over again
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I feel you man, I'm an ex galaxy user and I'm a pro with Odin but have no idea about rsd light, plus I have Windows 8 driver issues with it
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I've been a flashaholic since the original HTC Evo came out on Sprint 3 years ago.... I admit I rooted the Moto X for a few hours then I ended up rsd'ing back to stock and haven't had the urge to touch the system since. sure it has bloatware but it's not as bad as the other phones out there. I can satisfactorily live with this.
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The X most definitely cured me from my flashaholic ways. I had every flagship imaginable over the last year. Nexus 4, S3,S4,N2,LGOGP,HTC ONE, "I'm sure I am forgetting at least one" and with each of those I was flashing constantly to cover up or get rid of the crappy manufacturer U.I. except for the N4 of course. With the X, it is perfect strait out of the box. Of course like others I have rooted and such but I have no interest in flashing anything.
Thanks Moto

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Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
Since selling my Nexus 5, I've been checking the forums on this device more then I care to admit, hoping I see some [ROM] tags start to pop up on topics, I feel like i'm going through a withdraw, and a sudden withdraw, it's hard...
I don't even have a reason to root, other then trying to get some apps to work, couple that with the idea that unlocking bootloader on my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition feels like i'm doing something wrong, the act of doing that somehow downgrades the device, despite the device not loosing warranty...
Last concern is that flashing a custom recovery, and/or unrooting, updating OTA's, and flashing in general feels still untested/dangerous on this device.
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.

Nexus 4 owner here. I feel ya! But this phone is as close to perfect as we can get. The only thing that bothers me is that we have to choose between moto display or ambient display. Imagine ambient display working with the sensors. So many possibilities with this phone. Maybe the dev section will blossom soon.

Yeah the dev support for both Moto Xs has been pretty scarce. I used to flash A LOT on my old HTC last year but I finally settled down with Paranoid Android. I'm rooted but there's no urge to flash for me mainly because of how barebones lollipop roms are. It's funny & a bit disheartening to be honest that my 2 year old device has multiple lollipop roms though :/

I come from a S3 [i9300] and I know the feel!! My External SD Card was filled only with CWM Backups / Titanium Backups and a range of roms
Had a 16 GB external SD card + 16 internal.. Don't miss the storage but yes do miss the flashing of the ROMs

TopazUser1 said:
Nexus 4 owner here. I feel ya! But this phone is as close to perfect as we can get. The only thing that bothers me is that we have to choose between moto display or ambient display. Imagine ambient display working with the sensors. So many possibilities with this phone. Maybe the dev section will blossom soon.
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Ambient Display is nice, I love it.
Was never a big fan of moto display, maybe if it was a bit more interesting, maybe if they did some more design to it to update it a bit, I would totally looooove if they did something with it that looks like the b&w side of this one
Or did something interesting with rendering the background dimly of the phone
Sorry Phandroid, I took an image of yours and used it to illustrate an idea.

Shemploo said:
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
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I feel exactly like you!
I'm happy of the device (it works very well) but I need something to flash...I need it!!!

Shemploo said:
Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
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If you're unhappy with the lack of custom ROMs you could always learn how to develop and get the ball rolling. There are plenty of resources available.

I used to have the Moto G before this beast and I am more than happy. In my old G I used to flash Roms every week but that was more for the lack of performance and sensors. Now I am with moto X 1097 and I converted it to 1095 and I have to say: that's all I need. I hope with time developers will surprise us with some great things but by now this phone is close to perfect

Shemploo said:
Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
Since selling my Nexus 5, I've been checking the forums on this device more then I care to admit, hoping I see some [ROM] tags start to pop up on topics, I feel like i'm going through a withdraw, and a sudden withdraw, it's hard...
I don't even have a reason to root, other then trying to get some apps to work, couple that with the idea that unlocking bootloader on my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition feels like i'm doing something wrong, the act of doing that somehow downgrades the device, despite the device not loosing warranty...
Last concern is that flashing a custom recovery, and/or unrooting, updating OTA's, and flashing in general feels still untested/dangerous on this device.
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
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Interesting... I think that the main reason why there are no roms is that almost everyone that has this phone is more than happy with the features we have. I used to be like that too. When I first got my first moto x I thought it was absurd not having roms for it. Then I started noticing how fast the phone was and I found that most of the stuff I looked for on roms (improved performance and no bloatware) was already there! Same goes for the new x. Between lollipop and moto software I really see no point.
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juliospinoza said:
I used to have the Moto G before this beast and I am more than happy. In my old G I used to flash Roms every week but that was more for the lack of performance and sensors. Now I am with moto X 1097 and I converted it to 1095 and I have to say: that's all I need. I hope with time developers will surprise us with some great things but by now this phone is close to perfect
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I'm hoping what I did with my note 3 doesn't happen to me again..there was 0 development for the first 6 months or so of device release and I sold it..a month later there were a ton of ROMs available.. That being said I'm happy currently without a ROM..but I am watching the thread in original development closely as he has brought some great cm ROMs to devices that weren't supported in the past

I grew tired of flashing ROMs years ago. The Moto X is super refreshing in that it is perfect the way it is and I don't need to flash a ROM to get it to perform the way I want. Just use Xposed and a couple modules and I am a happy camper.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I grew tired of flashing ROMs years ago. The Moto X is super refreshing in that it is perfect the way it is and I don't need to flash a ROM to get it to perform the way I want. Just use Xposed and a couple modules and I am a happy camper.
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Well. I am in Lollipop and Xposed is not supported. And by far, Android 5 is superior than 4.4. No regrets at all but more development will be appreciated

juliospinoza said:
Well. I am in Lollipop and Xposed is not supported. And by far, Android 5 is superior than 4.4. No regrets at all but more development will be appreciated
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I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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This is pretty simple - If you miss flashing ROM's sooooo much, sell your Moto X and buy a phone with a big dev community. Problem solved.

_MetalHead_ said:
I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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Def to each his own. I could never see myself going back to 4.4 even with Xposed. Lollipop is so much nicer!

_MetalHead_ said:
I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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Wow! Nice to see that side. I am IN LOVE with lollipop, i could never use kitkat again. If i had an n5 like you and saw lollipop i coudnt live with my moto x not having it. Then again, to get lollipop on verizon is literally why i bought this phone

I agree 100% with Diesel
For the others with a problem of no ROMS, why not take the time you spent flashing ROMS and learn to develop a new ROM. You will get what you want and make plenty of others happy at the same time. The tools are free and readily available if you search.
Diesel779 said:
This is pretty simple - If you miss flashing ROM's sooooo much, sell your Moto X and buy a phone with a big dev community. Problem solved.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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disagree? sending from an iPhone? :highfive:
Xposed is a great tool for those who want to keep stock and have a taste of developers performance.
Lollipop at soak sucks, but when is official is great. As I said, I love the performance, battery and looks of the new android... and in my old moto G was not the same, even with CM 12
regards my good fellow

juliospinoza said:
disagree? sending from an iPhone? :highfive:
Xposed is a great tool for those who want to keep stock and have a taste of developers performance.
Lollipop at soak sucks, but when is official is great. As I said, I love the performance, battery and looks of the new android... and in my old moto G was not the same, even with CM 12
regards my good fellow
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Yep, sent from an iPhone
I get why everyone likes Lollipop, it's just not for me. At least not yet. I have plenty of experience with it, I just keep going back to KitKat every time.

_MetalHead_ said:
Yep, sent from an iPhone
I get why everyone likes Lollipop, it's just not for me. At least not yet. I have plenty of experience with it, I just keep going back to KitKat every time.
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well, it dependes of the person, I am using Android since 1.6 (Motorola X1, iDen technology) and now, Lollipop for ME is just amazing, maybe I need to use iPhone to see what is the big deal about it :fingers-crossed: