I currently have a G-Nex and started off flashing new ROMS fairly often, but as Android has matured I have found it less necessary to flash ROMS for performance purposes. I mainly flash ROMS now to try out various features ie Pie controls.
My question is any crack flasher out there buy the Moto X even though it will probably be limited in development? If so have you felt the need to flash ROMS or is the stock ROM stable/smooth enough to appease you? I know a dev version will be out eventually, but I'm wondering if it is necessary to wait for it.
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I was flashing my rom on my s4 about once a week if not more, sometimes a lot more. I've only had it two days but have not wanted to flash yet. I do want root though. The biggest thing I miss is paranoid android. I loved pie and being able to customize quick settings and pull down quick toggle from tip right of screen.
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I also really miss circle battery
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I just got the phone today.
I was a Galaxy Nexus user from launch day (Verizon). And let me tell you, the Moto X is AWESOME. The performance is incredible (I find it snappier than the GS4's I've played around with), the battery is far superior to what I had grown accustomed to on the GNex (and I haven't even gone through a full cycle yet, so it's just gonna get better!). The features like Active Notifications and Touchless Control are really nifty, especially the Active Notifications. Despite the screen being 4.7", the form factor is actually smaller than the Gnex which boggled my mind. I love how it feels in my hands.
At the moment, I'm not concerned about the lack of a dev community. I'm sure when 5.0 launches and I can't get a build running day of I'll be a little envious of the Nexus owners who do have it running (granted, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 so I'll at least be able to play with that haha). I do miss some things like Pie Controls, the Cyanogenmod MMS APK, having access to stuff like Titanium Backup and the like, but the positives with the Moto X far outweigh the stuff I miss. And who knows, someone might eventually crack the code and we might get the best of both worlds but until then, I'm more than pleased with this phone.
I used to be really bad but now all I want is root. Wouldn't mind a slightly custom rom to allow custom lock screen short cuts and get rid of the damn ATT logo but outside of that I really don't need anything that this phone doesn't offer.
All I miss is pie controls/full screen mode. Stock is smooth.
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I used to be really bad but now all I want is root. Wouldn't mind a slightly custom rom to allow custom lock screen short cuts and get rid of the damn ATT logo but outside of that I really don't need anything that this phone doesn't offer.
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I think some guys here have figured how to do that, we just need root on ATT
I was a crack flasher but i can bare to wait until we have root this stockish experience is amazing
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I think some guys here have figured how to do that, we just need root on ATT
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As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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Only AOSP roms, most devices have roms that stick pretty close to stock but give you a few tweaks to play with. That being said stock android really doesn't need much, the only thing I really want is customizable lockscreen shortcuts and a quick flashlight mod.
That's all available through xposed mods, the only thing I miss is the brightness slider.
Dual panel, full call screen pics, clock, battery, carrier label and more are all easily done with xposed. Cyanogenmod clock is available with an app
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I just got the phone today.
I was a Galaxy Nexus user from launch day (Verizon). And let me tell you, the Moto X is AWESOME. The performance is incredible (I find it snappier than the GS4's I've played around with), the battery is far superior to what I had grown accustomed to on the GNex (and I haven't even gone through a full cycle yet, so it's just gonna get better!). The features like Active Notifications and Touchless Control are really nifty, especially the Active Notifications. Despite the screen being 4.7", the form factor is actually smaller than the Gnex which boggled my mind. I love how it feels in my hands.
At the moment, I'm not concerned about the lack of a dev community. I'm sure when 5.0 launches and I can't get a build running day of I'll be a little envious of the Nexus owners who do have it running (granted, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 so I'll at least be able to play with that haha). I do miss some things like Pie Controls, the Cyanogenmod MMS APK, having access to stuff like Titanium Backup and the like, but the positives with the Moto X far outweigh the stuff I miss. And who knows, someone might eventually crack the code and we might get the best of both worlds but until then, I'm more than pleased with this phone.
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Man that's good to hear. I have a GNote2 and was just getting tired of the big screen. I purchased the Moto X today and it seems like something that will satisfy my small phone craving. I will miss all the themes and titanium backup when rooted. So what you've just said puts my crack flashing needs at ease. Thanks. I do hope that someone is able to unlock the boot loader because after having a Droid X I thought I would never get a Motorola device again. I do wonder when the Developer Edition does become available if we will be able to trade in for one?
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All I want other than 4.3 (for trim) is root for adaway. Everything else is perfect on this device!
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No desire to flash a ROM with this phone. I just want to be able to use autostarts and TiB. Once we have root, it will be PERFECT.
Yeah I think the only thing I'd really want on the phone is 4.3 just because. I am curious though because it seems like Moto super optimized the kernel/software to run so smooth, I wonder if a custom rom would be unable to duplicate Moto's optimizations.
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As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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Yeah that's why I don't really want a bootloader unlock (it'd be nice) but rooting will let me do most of what I wanted.
Yeah the only thing I miss is root. Other than that its perfect. I have my nexus 7 for my flashing needs.
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All I want other than 4.3 (for trim) is root for adaway. Everything else is perfect on this device!
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I've heard the Moto X already uses trim even though it's on 4.2.2. I'm getting a Verizon Moto X tomorrow. I can't believe I'm leaving the Nexus/Prepaid/Crackflasher lifestyle, but it's a long story.
I'm a dad and a very busy web/app developer, so I kind of look forward to no longer feeling the compulsion to constantly flash new ROMs. With the locked bootloader of the Verizon Moto X, I suppose that will help curb my urges
I've always loved how I can come to XDA, find a new ROM or mod, and suddenly my old smartphone feels like a new toy. I'm hoping that the Moto X will be such a solid device I can live without that somewhat time consuming and battery/stability endangering habit. Instead of being a leach on the Developer threads, I hope to become more of a contributor to other types of threads instead.
Was a crackflasher; constantly flashing ROMs to my S3 until I finally found a ROM I settled on (M.O.A.R) I love the near stock experience of the Moto X all I really want is root for adaway and it would be nice to get a ROM built off stock OTA with lockscreen tweaks and what not. Overall I'm loving this phone and can't get over how snappy this thing is!
On top of all that I don't have much time to mess with ROMs anymore as I am working full time and really need my phone to "just work" After a while you lose interest after setting up your phone for the millionth time! Coming from the S3 where AOSP was still very broken it is a nice change.
I was a frequent flasher, trying various ROMs on my Galaxy S3, and then Note 2, and then HTC One.
When I got the Moto X a few days ago I checked out the this new XDA forum section... and was (at the time) sad there were not alternative ROMs.
However, after a few days of use I discovered the Moto X stock ROM is GREAT! There really is nothing missing/annoying that would normally get me ROM hunting. Plus, there already is a XPosed module that offers some extra customization. And amazingly, the Rogers version of the phone has no bloatware at all that I can see.
So the great Moto X stock ROM has cured me of crack flashing!
I also am kind of happy to take a break from the crackflashing habit. My Note 2 was lucky to survive 3 days without me flashing some new ROM. I factory reset my X this morning due to a camera that wouldn't initialize here and there but I hope I can avoid that from here on out. Setting up everything again without Titanium Backup was a pain!!
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thinking abiout getting x.. is it worth it?
The Droid X?
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If you can get a Droid X for a good price, you should take the opportunity.
It's very good device with many rom options. You won't be disappointed.
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Depends on the price. And read up on it before you do and know what you're getting into, or the community just might drive you crazy. Great support for how old it is, but you will be hearing about the bootloader until your head explodes.
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thinking abiout getting x.. is it worth it?
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Im sure there are people that will dissagree with me but I love my dx and have had very little trouble with it. If you can get it cheap go for it why not there are some good roms out there if you dont like the stock system. Lately I have flashed alot of different roms on it and its really not bad to work with I'm still having fun with it
I'd have to say, after about 18-19 months with one, you should pass. I'd get an HTC Incredible/2, or Thunderbolt. I had a lot of problems with mine, and I'm actually on my 3rd replacement device. I've had strangers tell me of similar problems.
I've had much better luck since rooting and installing Liberty ROM v3, but overall I'd say there are better devices out there.
I've also sworn off Motorola for good, or at least until they get rid of Blur. They really know how to ruin a good piece of hardware. It's just terribly slow and unstable. If you get a DX, plan on rooting and flashing something else onto it.
Oh, and as another user has already mentioned, the bootloader can cause problems, especially with the latest update. You have to avoid update .621 if you want to flash a different ROM onto it. I don't think other devices are as problematic in this regard.
OK for a good price. It is a little larger than most phones (a little big to place in a pocket .)
I'm not sure if you're talking from a straight user perspective or someone who is going to muck around a bit with their phone customizing it. For a straight user who isn't going to root it and/or go beyond what Verizon wants you to do with it then I'd say you should skip it and just get whatever new mid to top of the line Android is within your budget.
If you're looking for a phone you can muck around with and truly customize on the cheap then I would definitely recommend the X, especially since you can pick them up for about $100 off of craigslist
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I'd have to say, after about 18-19 months with one, you should pass. I'd get an HTC Incredible/2, or Thunderbolt. I had a lot of problems with mine, and I'm actually on my 3rd replacement device. I've had strangers tell me of similar problems.
I've had much better luck since rooting and installing Liberty ROM v3, but overall I'd say there are better devices out there.
I've also sworn off Motorola for good, or at least until they get rid of Blur. They really know how to ruin a good piece of hardware. It's just terribly slow and unstable. If you get a DX, plan on rooting and flashing something else onto it.
Oh, and as another user has already mentioned, the bootloader can cause problems, especially with the latest update. You have to avoid update .621 if you want to flash a different ROM onto it. I don't think other devices are as problematic in this regard.
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I have to disagree with this guy. First off it doesn't matter if the device has blur or not because you can install a custom rom that is ASOP and doesn't even have blur. Motorola in my opinion makes the best hardware and just because the bootloader is locked doesn't mean you can't do a lot with the device. This forum is DEAD for the droid x. Look on rootzwiki and you will find a ICS gem named Gummy rom from Kejar. You won't be disappointed.
As others have mentioned it depends on your situation. If you're looking for a phone to purchase for cheap without a contract, then yes, the X might be one to look at.
Personally if I had to look for something cheap right now my search would be for something with an unlocked bootloader, some decent ROM support and decent battery life.
I am guessing the Incredible 2 might fit that bill.... I'm not sure of any issues the phone may have natively but it is a more powerful phone. Probably would be a bit more expensive though.
NOTE: IF YOU BUY A DROID X AND INTEND TO ROOT/ROM (you should be planning this b/c the stock Droid X is slow and clunky) MAKE SURE IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED TO SYSTEM VERSION .621.
.605, .602, .596, .595, .340, etc are all fine.
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I have to disagree with this guy. First off it doesn't matter if the device has blur or not because you can install a custom rom that is ASOP and doesn't even have blur. Motorola in my opinion makes the best hardware and just because the bootloader is locked doesn't mean you can't do a lot with the device. This forum is DEAD for the droid x. Look on rootzwiki and you will find a ICS gem named Gummy rom from Kejar. You won't be disappointed.
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Actually, I think we're agreeing. I was saying if you get one, plan to flash it and get rid of Blur.
I've had hardware issues with it also, but overall, with the right Custom ROM, it can be a good experience.
As someone else has noted, if you aren't planning to root/flash this phone, you're better off with a more user-friendly device, like a Samsung or an HTC.
But, again, just my $0.02.
I still have a Droid X purchased in the release date and I never had problems with, however is getting outdated and becoming slow so it will be replaced by a HTC Rezound next week.
Great phone if you can find a cheap one in great shape. Lots of Dev community support.
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I have to disagree with this guy. First off it doesn't matter if the device has blur or not because you can install a custom rom that is ASOP and doesn't even have blur. Motorola in my opinion makes the best hardware and just because the bootloader is locked doesn't mean you can't do a lot with the device. This forum is DEAD for the droid x. Look on rootzwiki and you will find a ICS gem named Gummy rom from Kejar. You won't be disappointed.
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I just reacquired my X after upgrading my wifes phone to a Bionic, and flashed Gummy ICS onto it. It's a georgous rom, works like a champ, and the phone FLIES with it. If you can get it cheap, go for it.
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I just reacquired my X after upgrading my wifes phone to a Bionic, and flashed Gummy ICS onto it. It's a georgous rom, works like a champ, and the phone FLIES with it. If you can get it cheap, go for it.
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Are you using 0.9.0 or one of the later builds?
Just interested to see what people are running =D
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I'm running MIUI 4-5-2012 by Wizard0f0. It's the only currently maintained ROM that appears to be stable, fast AND have almost no bugs. Most of the other ROMs (including gummy) have to many bugs for my taste (like camera or MMS or Bluetooth not working properly)
That said, I'm keeping my eyes on gummy and a few others in hopes of a fast, stable, debugged ROM with slightly better battery life. I'm not holding my breath though b/c the other ROMs seem more focused on incorporating ICS framework than getting everything working as it should. Oh well, I guess we'll just wait and see.
Now i am using x if you getting this in a good price than you should buy it.. It is good because of its nice features ..You won't be disappointed...Don't think too much about that just buy it..
Yes. Good hardware,good RF ,big screen . Just note that the phone is a bit larger than most .
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Yes. Good hardware,good RF ,big screen . Just note that the phone is a larger than most .
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I don't know as I'd necessarily agree with that. 4.3" really isn't that abnormally big any more. You have devices like the Galaxy Nexus, Razor, etc coming out now at every turn. They all seem to be going between 4" and 4.65" or something.
I have one I use on WiFi only, really happy with it. Would be happier with an unlocked bootloader.
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Get it!
CM7, Jakebytesmod and Beats.
The first step was admitting I had a problem. It got so bad my girlfriend started to ***** about me ****ing with my phone so much. The Moto x has been my 12 step program because stock is so great on this phone. I used to be a fan of touchwiz since I'm an ex galaxy fan boy but now I see why I enjoy stock android, I can start from the beginning and build the experience myself. Any one else's flashoholism cured by this phone?
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My name is Mikel. I am an ex flashaholic. I used to enjoy living on the edge; always flashing the latest nightly. After countless wipes, restores, and close bricks, I can happily say I am now a recovering flashaholic. It has been 2 weeks since my last flash (pre moto x). Stay strong brothers
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I just want the latest edge software. We'll never get that.... How. I want to keep this phone, but how
Rather be a flashaholic than an alcoholic, look at my tag, always will be a flashaholic, bring on the roms
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I used to have problems with my gf and family since i kept losing the msgs, pics and contacts with all the flashing going on.
I'm off the hook now with the Moto X.
Aosp is simply the best i do admit i get small attacks and last one got my phone rooted and unlocked.
Keep strong brothers.
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mikel.canovas said:
My name is Mikel. I am an ex flashaholic. I used to enjoy living on the edge; always flashing the latest nightly. After countless wipes, restores, and close bricks, I can happily say I am now a recovering flashaholic. It has been 2 weeks since my last flash (pre moto x). Stay strong brothers
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LoL.
Funny topic to begin with but I love how you make it better by using a real AA type intro speech with "My name is _______. I am a ex _______."
Great speech btw. I hope you stay strong
As weird as it might sound I started at Xda with the Nexus One and have had various devices since then. Throughout it all I've never flashed, not once
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LoL.
Funny topic to begin with but I love how you make it better by using a real AA type intro speech with "My name is _______. I am a ex _______."
Great speech btw. I hope you stay strong
As weird as it might sound I started at Xda with the Nexus One and have had various devices since then. Throughout it all I've never flashed, not once
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Lol, the sober guy that goes to the local bar because they have really good root beer.
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My name is Hubert J. Farnsworth, and I'm a ex-flashaholic.
My addiction began back in July of 2011 when I got my first smartphone, the Motorola X2. There weren't a lot of options (CM7, AOSP, Eclipse, and eventually CM9/10), but I could never get enough. I didn't care if I would lose personal data, texts, pictures, have to SBF my device, I wanted to see what other devs were doing. Due to restrictions (mainly a locked bootloader), the X2 couldn't fuel my rage, and I abandoned the device that brought me into the smartphone era, and went running to the Galaxy Nexus.
From the moment I powered on the device, I knew I was in paradise! Unlocked bootloader, check. Rooted, check. INSANE amount of devs, check. I would try anything to get my kicks. New rom all the time, tweaked kernels left and right, minimal or expansive GAPPS, and hell, even different recoveries.
One day, I'm browsing DroidLife, and I see Eric Schmidt holding this mystery device that has all the tech sites buzzing and it was love at first site. I thought to myself, "Wow, a phone with the rock solid hardware of Motorola and the pure sexiness of Google software, uninterrupted by some asshat at Samsung or LG painting over the UI like a four year old doing a finger-painting. This is the one."
Fast forward a month, and there I am, standing in the Verizon store, paying full price for my dream phone (don't want to loose unlimited data, duh). The experience is so amazing that I don't even think about rooting for over a month. Finally, the shine of a brand new device wears off, and I want to start tearing into this puppy. jcase releases a root, and bam, read-only protection is off. I can now do what I want, when I want. But I don't (beyond wireless tethering and Greenify, naturally). I don't need to. Why? I already have everything I need. And the few things I want can be fixed with Xposed. Motorola was brave, trying new things, like the always listening SoC and Moto Assist to name a few. The camera update comes, which causes a little hiccup with the root access, but nothing we can't work around.
So has the Moto X cured my addiction? In a way, yes. Why break something that isn't broken? Why reinvent the wheel? It's not necessary. This device has everything you need, and will be here for a while. Stay strong my friends, and the power of the Moto X can heal you, too.
Coming from a Gs3 and I loved flashing the phone with crazy Roms to test them out... When I got my ultra I loved the stockness of the phone. Some options are not available but at least we have root and gravity box.
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Well since I think this phone is perfect and doesn't need to have Roms installed daily...I still am a flashaholic so I will be getting a nexus 5 to curb my flashing needs.
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I dont need to go to rehab ..i dont have the addiction ...i can quit whenever i want ...yes i did try to flash toaster , but hey ...im only human
Sa sens le Rooting icite !!
The moto x may be a cure for most flashaholics, a cure for the need to root, it is not. To much bloatware. And I for one want what I want on MY phone.
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I agree, honestly I have a few requirements with a phone and root, If I don't have them I cant use the phone 1. tether unlock by freezing syncTEDC wich makes native tethering work, 2. titanium to delete bloat, and 3 clockwork mod to take backups incase something ****s up, if they ever made all that stock which they wont, I wouldn't need to root
My flashing days are behind me for at least a week, my phone was soft bricked today after flashing cm10.2 had to rsdlite to stock and start all over again
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I feel you man, I'm an ex galaxy user and I'm a pro with Odin but have no idea about rsd light, plus I have Windows 8 driver issues with it
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I've been a flashaholic since the original HTC Evo came out on Sprint 3 years ago.... I admit I rooted the Moto X for a few hours then I ended up rsd'ing back to stock and haven't had the urge to touch the system since. sure it has bloatware but it's not as bad as the other phones out there. I can satisfactorily live with this.
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The X most definitely cured me from my flashaholic ways. I had every flagship imaginable over the last year. Nexus 4, S3,S4,N2,LGOGP,HTC ONE, "I'm sure I am forgetting at least one" and with each of those I was flashing constantly to cover up or get rid of the crappy manufacturer U.I. except for the N4 of course. With the X, it is perfect strait out of the box. Of course like others I have rooted and such but I have no interest in flashing anything.
Thanks Moto
Soooo, I recently purchased a Note 3 and I'm MOSTLY happy with a lot of things about the phone... BUT the idea that we may never get an unlocked bootloader (SOOO annoying, had a Thunderbolt for the last two years and was really looking forward to getting CM again!) is making me question whether I should stay with my new phone or not. Looking for a little advice on keeping the N3 or getting something new:
Pros:
1.) The hardware is incredible. Coming from the Thunderbolt, this thing is insanely fast.
2.) The screen is awesome. The size doesn't bother me at all.
3.) Battery life!
Cons:
1.) Touch Wiz. I used to own an original Droid and LOVED the OS, eventually switching to CM for added features. Most of the stuff I dislike I can turn off, but there's a lot of bloat and dumb ideas here. (Why Samsung makes me turn up the volume and say I won't explode my head every time I plug in headphones is insane... I'M PLUGGING IT INTO MY CAR AND I'M NO LONGER 12 YEARS OLD.)
2.) The screen isn't big enough to use as an e-reader. This is not a huge issue, I had just HOPED it would be... BUT, since that's the case, I could easily switch to another phone and get a tablet too and not feel bad about it.
3.) Gaming... again, I had hoped the N3 would be able to provide gaming and e-reader and phone all into one device, but Android games are really just too shallow for me.
Soooo, what it really comes down to is if you guys think this device will be unlocked down the line OR if you think I could adjust it to make a more stock android/ AOSP/ CM type experience. If I was able to put CM on here I would be sitting pretty. I'm just worried it will turn into a situation like the Thunderbolt with limited updates and no real way to get new software...
If I did get a new phone, what would you guys recommend? I'm looking at the HTC One, Nexus 5, LG G2 and Galaxy S4. I haven't yet looked into which ones have fully unlocked bootloaders with decent roms, but that would be a deal breaker.
Thanks for any and all help, you guys are awesome!!
It sounds (to me) like you should get rid of it and get a phone that you can put CM on. I, personally, have never been a fan of CM. I like miui (haven't had that working 100% on a phone for probably 3 years now though) or heavily modded stock roms more. But as far as speed and battery life. This thing is awesome. Big screen is a + for me too. And it's got more features than I care to use or learn which is also a + I guess.
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Ultimately it all comes down to what you want. I mean, if it doesn't live up to your standards why keep it? It's your money to spend how you see fit. Buy something you feel will be worthwhile. If you're looking for the original Android experience the Moto X is a sweet phone and easy to carry and use.
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Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...
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Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...
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Just a little FYI, i came to the note 3 from a razr maxx, also a locked bootloader using safestrap. It is an officially supported device in the CM build. Sure an unlocked bootloader is great no matter the phone, but a really solid phone can sometimes trump that one little perk. Just a different opinion for your process. Good Luck.
This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.
Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.
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This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.
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I have to agree. I love the phone but my flashaholic status is slowly going away. When I had the TP, TP2, Evo, Evo 3D and Rezound I'd have a new rom almost every three days. Depending on what the devs put out. I have never been an AOSP guy so CM never really meant alot to me. I understand that guys want flexibility. I have heard guys say they couldn't stand sense on HTC just as people want TW off their phone. I love the N3 and it's a nice step up from the S3 I had previously. I might kingo and safe strap once I'm done moving just because but I'm really kinda liking not wiping and restoring my phone all the time too. I may have to change my xda button in my signature to just senior member..
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I came to the note 3 from note 2. I want super impressed coming from n2, but ultimately will keep the n3 and sell my n2. I have to all out because every time I touch my n2 I miss it. I just think it feels better in my hands them does the n3.
I'm so over flashing. I was flashing a new rom at least twice a week. I'm happy with tw. Flashing, imo, is a complete waste of time. To me it kind of sounds like you're trying to talk yourself out of the Galaxy Note 3 and into a different phone simply because the boot loader is locked. If that is the case then yes I would try a phone that you could flash. I happen to have a Galaxy Note 2 with an unlocked bootloader and a stock rom on there if you are interested and it has all kinds of accessories.
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There are some great points in this thread. I have a note 2 that is pretty new to me. I absolutely love the phone and while I like the unlocked status, I feel I can get most of what I want from a phone with root and xposed modules. I like CM and AOSP ROMs, but the camera quality and options never seem as good with those builds. As a father, the camera has become one of the most important features of my smart phone. That said, I'm considering selling my N2 and HTC One and getting an N3, essentially committing to no more flashing.
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profman03 said:
Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.
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You had the exact same phones as me minus the tp.
Tp2, evo, evo 3D, rezound, N3.
Galaxy Note 3, HTC Rezound, HTC Evo 3D, HTC Evo, HTC Touch Pro 2, LG Voyager
Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.
From what I have seen so far with this phone is a root with some theming is plenty. Just flashing kernels never really (to me) felt like they did anything. I came from the s3, so just rooting debloating with some greenify makes this phone amazing.
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I say keep your Note 3, root it, freeze/remove bloatware, and customize with Wanam Xposed. As far as your "CONS" go, it sounds like you're going to need a tablet in addition to the Note 3. What kind of gaming are you looking to do? Do you just want something that has a bigger screen/better hardware?
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profman03 said:
Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.
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Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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Just rooted, put xposed on there and wanam. Now I'm adjusting settings and debloating... things are looking up.
I'll sell u my mint verizon note 2..already unlocked running beans right now.
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Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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+1 Imo custom stock roms were never considered actual developing in the early android days. They were more so considered themes and the guys creating them were called Chefs. Something changed in the last couple years...however AOSP is were "real development" exists. Xposed app has pretty much shifted things back the other direction allowing the end user to modify a stock rom fairly easy. That combined with a few apps like Ninja morph to modify the framework.res files and the end user can create a custom stock rom fairly easy. I mainly run beans because of the AOSP themeing and I tweak the rest in myself. Dont take me wrong I appreciate guys like Beans because its time consuming doing the things he does.
Anyone interested in trading for a verizon lg g2? Already rooted, too...
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After messing around with root, and xposed for a while, I'm less concerned that there won't be enough support on this device to do the things that I want. I do have a few more questions, though:
1.) Has anyone started a list of all the apps that come on the stock rom and which we can freeze or delete entirely? (I will happily start this thread if there's interest and support for it.)
2.) Does anyone know how to prevent the volume getting reduced after plugging in headphones? I use my phone for music in my car and would really appreciate it if I didn't have to turn up the volume every time I plugged it in. (Wanam has an option to prevent the warning pop up, but the volume still gets reduced.)
Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
Since selling my Nexus 5, I've been checking the forums on this device more then I care to admit, hoping I see some [ROM] tags start to pop up on topics, I feel like i'm going through a withdraw, and a sudden withdraw, it's hard...
I don't even have a reason to root, other then trying to get some apps to work, couple that with the idea that unlocking bootloader on my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition feels like i'm doing something wrong, the act of doing that somehow downgrades the device, despite the device not loosing warranty...
Last concern is that flashing a custom recovery, and/or unrooting, updating OTA's, and flashing in general feels still untested/dangerous on this device.
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
Nexus 4 owner here. I feel ya! But this phone is as close to perfect as we can get. The only thing that bothers me is that we have to choose between moto display or ambient display. Imagine ambient display working with the sensors. So many possibilities with this phone. Maybe the dev section will blossom soon.
Yeah the dev support for both Moto Xs has been pretty scarce. I used to flash A LOT on my old HTC last year but I finally settled down with Paranoid Android. I'm rooted but there's no urge to flash for me mainly because of how barebones lollipop roms are. It's funny & a bit disheartening to be honest that my 2 year old device has multiple lollipop roms though :/
I come from a S3 [i9300] and I know the feel!! My External SD Card was filled only with CWM Backups / Titanium Backups and a range of roms
Had a 16 GB external SD card + 16 internal.. Don't miss the storage but yes do miss the flashing of the ROMs
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Nexus 4 owner here. I feel ya! But this phone is as close to perfect as we can get. The only thing that bothers me is that we have to choose between moto display or ambient display. Imagine ambient display working with the sensors. So many possibilities with this phone. Maybe the dev section will blossom soon.
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Ambient Display is nice, I love it.
Was never a big fan of moto display, maybe if it was a bit more interesting, maybe if they did some more design to it to update it a bit, I would totally looooove if they did something with it that looks like the b&w side of this one
Or did something interesting with rendering the background dimly of the phone
Sorry Phandroid, I took an image of yours and used it to illustrate an idea.
Shemploo said:
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
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I feel exactly like you!
I'm happy of the device (it works very well) but I need something to flash...I need it!!!
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Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
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If you're unhappy with the lack of custom ROMs you could always learn how to develop and get the ball rolling. There are plenty of resources available.
I used to have the Moto G before this beast and I am more than happy. In my old G I used to flash Roms every week but that was more for the lack of performance and sensors. Now I am with moto X 1097 and I converted it to 1095 and I have to say: that's all I need. I hope with time developers will surprise us with some great things but by now this phone is close to perfect
Shemploo said:
Well I have to say, or rather share my depression from the lack of custom ROMS, zip, zilch, nada...
Since selling my Nexus 5, I've been checking the forums on this device more then I care to admit, hoping I see some [ROM] tags start to pop up on topics, I feel like i'm going through a withdraw, and a sudden withdraw, it's hard...
I don't even have a reason to root, other then trying to get some apps to work, couple that with the idea that unlocking bootloader on my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition feels like i'm doing something wrong, the act of doing that somehow downgrades the device, despite the device not loosing warranty...
Last concern is that flashing a custom recovery, and/or unrooting, updating OTA's, and flashing in general feels still untested/dangerous on this device.
I feel hopeless, I feel like I want to get the OnePlus One, and sell this device - The OPO Is so much cheaper, so much more for the money, plus it's got a TON of ROMs for it!.
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Interesting... I think that the main reason why there are no roms is that almost everyone that has this phone is more than happy with the features we have. I used to be like that too. When I first got my first moto x I thought it was absurd not having roms for it. Then I started noticing how fast the phone was and I found that most of the stuff I looked for on roms (improved performance and no bloatware) was already there! Same goes for the new x. Between lollipop and moto software I really see no point.
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juliospinoza said:
I used to have the Moto G before this beast and I am more than happy. In my old G I used to flash Roms every week but that was more for the lack of performance and sensors. Now I am with moto X 1097 and I converted it to 1095 and I have to say: that's all I need. I hope with time developers will surprise us with some great things but by now this phone is close to perfect
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I'm hoping what I did with my note 3 doesn't happen to me again..there was 0 development for the first 6 months or so of device release and I sold it..a month later there were a ton of ROMs available.. That being said I'm happy currently without a ROM..but I am watching the thread in original development closely as he has brought some great cm ROMs to devices that weren't supported in the past
I grew tired of flashing ROMs years ago. The Moto X is super refreshing in that it is perfect the way it is and I don't need to flash a ROM to get it to perform the way I want. Just use Xposed and a couple modules and I am a happy camper.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I grew tired of flashing ROMs years ago. The Moto X is super refreshing in that it is perfect the way it is and I don't need to flash a ROM to get it to perform the way I want. Just use Xposed and a couple modules and I am a happy camper.
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Well. I am in Lollipop and Xposed is not supported. And by far, Android 5 is superior than 4.4. No regrets at all but more development will be appreciated
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Well. I am in Lollipop and Xposed is not supported. And by far, Android 5 is superior than 4.4. No regrets at all but more development will be appreciated
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I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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This is pretty simple - If you miss flashing ROM's sooooo much, sell your Moto X and buy a phone with a big dev community. Problem solved.
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I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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Def to each his own. I could never see myself going back to 4.4 even with Xposed. Lollipop is so much nicer!
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I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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Wow! Nice to see that side. I am IN LOVE with lollipop, i could never use kitkat again. If i had an n5 like you and saw lollipop i coudnt live with my moto x not having it. Then again, to get lollipop on verizon is literally why i bought this phone
I agree 100% with Diesel
For the others with a problem of no ROMS, why not take the time you spent flashing ROMS and learn to develop a new ROM. You will get what you want and make plenty of others happy at the same time. The tools are free and readily available if you search.
Diesel779 said:
This is pretty simple - If you miss flashing ROM's sooooo much, sell your Moto X and buy a phone with a big dev community. Problem solved.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I couldn't disagree more. KitKat is a fully functional finished product whereas Lollipop still has a loooong way to go. I have an L ROM on my N5 and I play with it from time to time. It has its pluses, but KitKat for me is perfect. Especially when you throw Xposed into the mix. To each his own though, you know?
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disagree? sending from an iPhone? :highfive:
Xposed is a great tool for those who want to keep stock and have a taste of developers performance.
Lollipop at soak sucks, but when is official is great. As I said, I love the performance, battery and looks of the new android... and in my old moto G was not the same, even with CM 12
regards my good fellow
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disagree? sending from an iPhone? :highfive:
Xposed is a great tool for those who want to keep stock and have a taste of developers performance.
Lollipop at soak sucks, but when is official is great. As I said, I love the performance, battery and looks of the new android... and in my old moto G was not the same, even with CM 12
regards my good fellow
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Yep, sent from an iPhone
I get why everyone likes Lollipop, it's just not for me. At least not yet. I have plenty of experience with it, I just keep going back to KitKat every time.
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Yep, sent from an iPhone
I get why everyone likes Lollipop, it's just not for me. At least not yet. I have plenty of experience with it, I just keep going back to KitKat every time.
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well, it dependes of the person, I am using Android since 1.6 (Motorola X1, iDen technology) and now, Lollipop for ME is just amazing, maybe I need to use iPhone to see what is the big deal about it :fingers-crossed:
So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
No offense.
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So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
No offense.
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Because this phone is a year old. The new moto x 2015 forums have been created. With time it will get slower and slower. The only exceptuon being when android m is relrased, those still on the moto x 2014 will start talking about it like crazy when it's time.
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AGISCI said:
Because this phone is a year old. The new moto x 2015 forums have been created. With time it will get slower and slower. The only exceptuon being when android m is relrased, those still on the moto x 2014 will start talking about it like crazy when it's time.
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Just because a device is a year old, people don't stop writing about it. Just take a look into the Nexus 5 forums.
The reason I think, why the Moto X forums aren't that active is simply because not so many people have this phone. Even fewer who are on xda.
For example the Nexus 5 has been sold far more often than the Moto X. And as Nexus phones are designed for devs and enthusiasts way more people here on xda have it and dev for this phone than for the Moto X.
i was looking into buying this phone and was very surprised at the lack of development for it, even after a year after release...i previously had a galaxy s3 and currently an lg g2 and development for those devices are very much in full force..i really wanted to buy this phone because it has such a great hardware build with great specs, but the lack of development turned me off
Well, the phone just works out of the box. Not much need of roms development when it works fine.
I must say, I am pretty much satisfied with the stock rom as it is.
Only thing that I want is Xposed modules for lollipop working flawless.
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I was just checking random threads... The Xperia SP was released in 2013 and is now 2 years old. We have got a very active community and golden developers with a lot of ROMs (even 5.1.1).
It is weird that your forums aren't active because everybody knows the Moto X.
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I was just checking random threads... The Xperia SP was released in 2013 and is now 2 years old. We have got a very active community and golden developers with a lot of ROMs (even 5.1.1).
It is weird that your forums aren't active because everybody knows the Moto X.
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There are a bunch of 5.1.1 roms for the moto x as well...
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There are a bunch of 5.1.1 roms for the moto x as well...
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Then why are you complaining?
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Then why are you complaining?
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I am not the person who posted the complaint... I was defending this phone's development by saying that we have the 5.1.1 roms too.
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Bought mine in december, didn't even root yet. It just works.
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I am not the person who posted the complaint... I was defending this phone's development by saying that we have the 5.1.1 roms too.
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Oh I am sorry, I didn't read the name because I was busy.
This the first phone I used which doesn't need to root, modify or install a different ROM on it, I did it twice installing new ROMs but reverted back to stock in one or two days.
Moto X special features are not replaceable up till now.
Being stock is just the way it has to be. Just root few apps out some froze and xposed.... Finally most of the cellphone companies (lg, Sony, motorola, Google, dtc) are making an incredible work on the stock stuff....
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If this surprises you, you should see the 2013 Moto X forums. I have owned both and can tell you that the most viewed threads are probably related to rooting the phone. That's practically all I need.
kkhadr said:
This the first phone I used which doesn't need to root, modify or install a different ROM on it, I did it twice installing new ROMs but reverted back to stock in one or two days.
Moto X special features are not replaceable up till now.
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I completely agree with you.
Installed CM 12 snapshot.
Then CM 12.1 Nightly.
Nightly was buggy a bit.
Tried Nexus Exp.
Finally back on 5.1.1 stock.
Gotta say nothing beats the stock till now.
Still I'd like to see some active development for roms like MIUI, PA even as a Legacy Device.
Wish I had time to learn how to port
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So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
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The nice thing about the Moto X 2014 is that it works well out of the box without the need for much tweaking. I mainly need root to WiFi tether for free. I also like a few rooted apps like Titanium B/U and Adaway. CF Lumen is nice too. But other than that, there isn't much I need to change.
Now I have the XT1096 (Verizon) locked down tight model so I did have to get root via MoFo and that required some threads/posts to get accomplished. But other than that there isn't much to talk about when you have a phone that works great without needing much in the way of tweaks for you to have a good user experience. I value the Moto software more than any tweaks a custom ROM could give me so I don't miss the custom ROMs.
Once you get the MX14 rooted, there isn't really much to talk about b/c the phone is great without any custom ROMs. Accessories are worth talking about but people talk about those most when the phone is first released and then the chatter dies down. I don't even bother with a case very often on mine because the leather is so beautiful although I have a case I use if I am running outside. I don't use a screen protector either. I do use the Seidio Springclip holster for the GS5 because I like to have a holster. I have a FitBag case for the phone when it is in my purse, love it. I have the Hula bumper but don't use it.
JulesJam said:
The nice thing about the Moto X 2014 is that it works well out of the box without the need for much tweaking. I mainly need root to WiFi tether for free. I also like a few rooted apps like Titanium B/U and Adaway. CF Lumen is nice too. But other than that, there isn't much I need to change.
Now I have the XT1096 (Verizon) locked down tight model so I did have to get root via MoFo and that required some threads/posts to get accomplished. But other than that there isn't much to talk about when you have a phone that works great without needing much in the way of tweaks for you to have a good user experience. I value the Moto software more than any tweaks a custom ROM could give me so I don't miss the custom ROMs.
Once you get the MX14 rooted, there isn't really much to talk about b/c the phone is great without any custom ROMs. Accessories are worth talking about but people talk about those most when the phone is first released and then the chatter dies down. I don't even bother with a case very often on mine because the leather is so beautiful although I have a case I use if I am running outside. I don't use a screen protector either. I do use the Seidio Springclip holster for the GS5 because I like to have a holster. I have a FitBag case for the phone when it is in my purse, love it. I have the Hula bumper but don't use it.
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Truth! I've tried other ROMs but always come back to stock. Motos software is too valuable to me and I use it daily!
chapelfreak said:
Truth! I've tried other ROMs but always come back to stock. Motos software is too valuable to me and I use it daily!
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I think that since motorola razr and razr hd motorola is making awesome stuff on stock firmware, you don't really need a customs room, just root and, if you like the nav bar to be more thin or the center clock, xposed install and you're done. ... I came from a LG g2 because it broke and I am impressed on battery performance and system smooth, remember g2 got a 3k battery.....
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