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A crack flashers thoughts?

I currently have a G-Nex and started off flashing new ROMS fairly often, but as Android has matured I have found it less necessary to flash ROMS for performance purposes. I mainly flash ROMS now to try out various features ie Pie controls.
My question is any crack flasher out there buy the Moto X even though it will probably be limited in development? If so have you felt the need to flash ROMS or is the stock ROM stable/smooth enough to appease you? I know a dev version will be out eventually, but I'm wondering if it is necessary to wait for it.
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I was flashing my rom on my s4 about once a week if not more, sometimes a lot more. I've only had it two days but have not wanted to flash yet. I do want root though. The biggest thing I miss is paranoid android. I loved pie and being able to customize quick settings and pull down quick toggle from tip right of screen.
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I also really miss circle battery
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I just got the phone today.
I was a Galaxy Nexus user from launch day (Verizon). And let me tell you, the Moto X is AWESOME. The performance is incredible (I find it snappier than the GS4's I've played around with), the battery is far superior to what I had grown accustomed to on the GNex (and I haven't even gone through a full cycle yet, so it's just gonna get better!). The features like Active Notifications and Touchless Control are really nifty, especially the Active Notifications. Despite the screen being 4.7", the form factor is actually smaller than the Gnex which boggled my mind. I love how it feels in my hands.
At the moment, I'm not concerned about the lack of a dev community. I'm sure when 5.0 launches and I can't get a build running day of I'll be a little envious of the Nexus owners who do have it running (granted, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 so I'll at least be able to play with that haha). I do miss some things like Pie Controls, the Cyanogenmod MMS APK, having access to stuff like Titanium Backup and the like, but the positives with the Moto X far outweigh the stuff I miss. And who knows, someone might eventually crack the code and we might get the best of both worlds but until then, I'm more than pleased with this phone.

I used to be really bad but now all I want is root. Wouldn't mind a slightly custom rom to allow custom lock screen short cuts and get rid of the damn ATT logo but outside of that I really don't need anything that this phone doesn't offer.

All I miss is pie controls/full screen mode. Stock is smooth.
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tw1tch175 said:
I used to be really bad but now all I want is root. Wouldn't mind a slightly custom rom to allow custom lock screen short cuts and get rid of the damn ATT logo but outside of that I really don't need anything that this phone doesn't offer.
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I think some guys here have figured how to do that, we just need root on ATT

I was a crack flasher but i can bare to wait until we have root this stockish experience is amazing
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ShamanicEnzan said:
I think some guys here have figured how to do that, we just need root on ATT
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As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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flashallthetime said:
As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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Only AOSP roms, most devices have roms that stick pretty close to stock but give you a few tweaks to play with. That being said stock android really doesn't need much, the only thing I really want is customizable lockscreen shortcuts and a quick flashlight mod.

That's all available through xposed mods, the only thing I miss is the brightness slider.
Dual panel, full call screen pics, clock, battery, carrier label and more are all easily done with xposed. Cyanogenmod clock is available with an app
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MVPete1 said:
I just got the phone today.
I was a Galaxy Nexus user from launch day (Verizon). And let me tell you, the Moto X is AWESOME. The performance is incredible (I find it snappier than the GS4's I've played around with), the battery is far superior to what I had grown accustomed to on the GNex (and I haven't even gone through a full cycle yet, so it's just gonna get better!). The features like Active Notifications and Touchless Control are really nifty, especially the Active Notifications. Despite the screen being 4.7", the form factor is actually smaller than the Gnex which boggled my mind. I love how it feels in my hands.
At the moment, I'm not concerned about the lack of a dev community. I'm sure when 5.0 launches and I can't get a build running day of I'll be a little envious of the Nexus owners who do have it running (granted, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 so I'll at least be able to play with that haha). I do miss some things like Pie Controls, the Cyanogenmod MMS APK, having access to stuff like Titanium Backup and the like, but the positives with the Moto X far outweigh the stuff I miss. And who knows, someone might eventually crack the code and we might get the best of both worlds but until then, I'm more than pleased with this phone.
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Man that's good to hear. I have a GNote2 and was just getting tired of the big screen. I purchased the Moto X today and it seems like something that will satisfy my small phone craving. I will miss all the themes and titanium backup when rooted. So what you've just said puts my crack flashing needs at ease. Thanks. I do hope that someone is able to unlock the boot loader because after having a Droid X I thought I would never get a Motorola device again. I do wonder when the Developer Edition does become available if we will be able to trade in for one?
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All I want other than 4.3 (for trim) is root for adaway. Everything else is perfect on this device!
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No desire to flash a ROM with this phone. I just want to be able to use autostarts and TiB. Once we have root, it will be PERFECT.

Yeah I think the only thing I'd really want on the phone is 4.3 just because. I am curious though because it seems like Moto super optimized the kernel/software to run so smooth, I wonder if a custom rom would be unable to duplicate Moto's optimizations.

flashallthetime said:
As i am one of the luck moto x which is rooted, xposed framework works surprisingly well, no need for a custom ROM, IMO any custom ROM will have all the Motorola goodies removed such as touch less control, may as well pick up a Sammy s4 and be like everyone else. Root is all you need
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Yeah that's why I don't really want a bootloader unlock (it'd be nice) but rooting will let me do most of what I wanted.

Yeah the only thing I miss is root. Other than that its perfect. I have my nexus 7 for my flashing needs.
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robstunner said:
All I want other than 4.3 (for trim) is root for adaway. Everything else is perfect on this device!
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I've heard the Moto X already uses trim even though it's on 4.2.2. I'm getting a Verizon Moto X tomorrow. I can't believe I'm leaving the Nexus/Prepaid/Crackflasher lifestyle, but it's a long story.
I'm a dad and a very busy web/app developer, so I kind of look forward to no longer feeling the compulsion to constantly flash new ROMs. With the locked bootloader of the Verizon Moto X, I suppose that will help curb my urges
I've always loved how I can come to XDA, find a new ROM or mod, and suddenly my old smartphone feels like a new toy. I'm hoping that the Moto X will be such a solid device I can live without that somewhat time consuming and battery/stability endangering habit. Instead of being a leach on the Developer threads, I hope to become more of a contributor to other types of threads instead.

Was a crackflasher; constantly flashing ROMs to my S3 until I finally found a ROM I settled on (M.O.A.R) I love the near stock experience of the Moto X all I really want is root for adaway and it would be nice to get a ROM built off stock OTA with lockscreen tweaks and what not. Overall I'm loving this phone and can't get over how snappy this thing is!
On top of all that I don't have much time to mess with ROMs anymore as I am working full time and really need my phone to "just work" After a while you lose interest after setting up your phone for the millionth time! Coming from the S3 where AOSP was still very broken it is a nice change.

I was a frequent flasher, trying various ROMs on my Galaxy S3, and then Note 2, and then HTC One.
When I got the Moto X a few days ago I checked out the this new XDA forum section... and was (at the time) sad there were not alternative ROMs.
However, after a few days of use I discovered the Moto X stock ROM is GREAT! There really is nothing missing/annoying that would normally get me ROM hunting. Plus, there already is a XPosed module that offers some extra customization. And amazingly, the Rogers version of the phone has no bloatware at all that I can see.
So the great Moto X stock ROM has cured me of crack flashing!

I also am kind of happy to take a break from the crackflashing habit. My Note 2 was lucky to survive 3 days without me flashing some new ROM. I factory reset my X this morning due to a camera that wouldn't initialize here and there but I hope I can avoid that from here on out. Setting up everything again without Titanium Backup was a pain!!

Note 3 Purchase Regrets... should I stick with it?

Soooo, I recently purchased a Note 3 and I'm MOSTLY happy with a lot of things about the phone... BUT the idea that we may never get an unlocked bootloader (SOOO annoying, had a Thunderbolt for the last two years and was really looking forward to getting CM again!) is making me question whether I should stay with my new phone or not. Looking for a little advice on keeping the N3 or getting something new:
Pros:
1.) The hardware is incredible. Coming from the Thunderbolt, this thing is insanely fast.
2.) The screen is awesome. The size doesn't bother me at all.
3.) Battery life!
Cons:
1.) Touch Wiz. I used to own an original Droid and LOVED the OS, eventually switching to CM for added features. Most of the stuff I dislike I can turn off, but there's a lot of bloat and dumb ideas here. (Why Samsung makes me turn up the volume and say I won't explode my head every time I plug in headphones is insane... I'M PLUGGING IT INTO MY CAR AND I'M NO LONGER 12 YEARS OLD.)
2.) The screen isn't big enough to use as an e-reader. This is not a huge issue, I had just HOPED it would be... BUT, since that's the case, I could easily switch to another phone and get a tablet too and not feel bad about it.
3.) Gaming... again, I had hoped the N3 would be able to provide gaming and e-reader and phone all into one device, but Android games are really just too shallow for me.
Soooo, what it really comes down to is if you guys think this device will be unlocked down the line OR if you think I could adjust it to make a more stock android/ AOSP/ CM type experience. If I was able to put CM on here I would be sitting pretty. I'm just worried it will turn into a situation like the Thunderbolt with limited updates and no real way to get new software...
If I did get a new phone, what would you guys recommend? I'm looking at the HTC One, Nexus 5, LG G2 and Galaxy S4. I haven't yet looked into which ones have fully unlocked bootloaders with decent roms, but that would be a deal breaker.
Thanks for any and all help, you guys are awesome!!

It sounds (to me) like you should get rid of it and get a phone that you can put CM on. I, personally, have never been a fan of CM. I like miui (haven't had that working 100% on a phone for probably 3 years now though) or heavily modded stock roms more. But as far as speed and battery life. This thing is awesome. Big screen is a + for me too. And it's got more features than I care to use or learn which is also a + I guess.
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Ultimately it all comes down to what you want. I mean, if it doesn't live up to your standards why keep it? It's your money to spend how you see fit. Buy something you feel will be worthwhile. If you're looking for the original Android experience the Moto X is a sweet phone and easy to carry and use.
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Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...

profman03 said:
Should I be able to sell this one for a decent price? It's basically brand new, always had a case and screen protector...
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Just a little FYI, i came to the note 3 from a razr maxx, also a locked bootloader using safestrap. It is an officially supported device in the CM build. Sure an unlocked bootloader is great no matter the phone, but a really solid phone can sometimes trump that one little perk. Just a different opinion for your process. Good Luck.

This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.

Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.

changt34x said:
This thread will probably be closed and moved to the sticky, but here are my 2 cents.
Out of all the cons presented, the only one that can be fixed well is the "TouchWiz" problem. The other phones either have smaller displays and Android's game market isn't even close to that of iOS, and doesn't seem like it will be soon. I think the LG G2 is the best choice for you (if you are fine without removable battery and microSD). Same Snapdragon 800, similar large 1080p display (I personally prefer it more because it is nearly impossible to get an AMOLED without black marks or unevenness), and also a large battery. Check out their development, it has a lot of exciting stuff going on and CM11 is right now a WIP. I'd say it still has a lot of potential to grow further, and its already a great community now.
Personally, I wasn't that overwhelmed by the N3 (probably because I had the N2). Looking back, I would have taken the G2 (and the $100 savings at the time) but I was an unlimited glitch purchase and don't have much time to customize my phone anymore. I flashed like mad on DInc, GNex, and Note 2, but right now having a device that isn't wiped every week is what I need. In fact, I finished a whole month on the Android 4.0+ Data Usage page for the first time ever.
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I have to agree. I love the phone but my flashaholic status is slowly going away. When I had the TP, TP2, Evo, Evo 3D and Rezound I'd have a new rom almost every three days. Depending on what the devs put out. I have never been an AOSP guy so CM never really meant alot to me. I understand that guys want flexibility. I have heard guys say they couldn't stand sense on HTC just as people want TW off their phone. I love the N3 and it's a nice step up from the S3 I had previously. I might kingo and safe strap once I'm done moving just because but I'm really kinda liking not wiping and restoring my phone all the time too. I may have to change my xda button in my signature to just senior member..
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I came to the note 3 from note 2. I want super impressed coming from n2, but ultimately will keep the n3 and sell my n2. I have to all out because every time I touch my n2 I miss it. I just think it feels better in my hands them does the n3.
I'm so over flashing. I was flashing a new rom at least twice a week. I'm happy with tw. Flashing, imo, is a complete waste of time. To me it kind of sounds like you're trying to talk yourself out of the Galaxy Note 3 and into a different phone simply because the boot loader is locked. If that is the case then yes I would try a phone that you could flash. I happen to have a Galaxy Note 2 with an unlocked bootloader and a stock rom on there if you are interested and it has all kinds of accessories.
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There are some great points in this thread. I have a note 2 that is pretty new to me. I absolutely love the phone and while I like the unlocked status, I feel I can get most of what I want from a phone with root and xposed modules. I like CM and AOSP ROMs, but the camera quality and options never seem as good with those builds. As a father, the camera has become one of the most important features of my smart phone. That said, I'm considering selling my N2 and HTC One and getting an N3, essentially committing to no more flashing.
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profman03 said:
Yeah, didn't know if this was the right place to post this, so then I copied and pasted it into the Q&A forum... and was going to delete this... now I can't figure out how to delete either thread! Ah well, if there's a major issue, I'm sure a mod will just close it.
Thanks for the input. I'm certainly not sold on getting rid of my N3, just looking into it. As stated, there are a lot of things I love about this phone, and if I could make it better that would be great.
Yeah, the "cons" really aren't cons, but things that I had HOPED the phone would be able to do, but can't. This just makes me feel OK about switching to a smaller phone and then getting a tablet as well.
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You had the exact same phones as me minus the tp.
Tp2, evo, evo 3D, rezound, N3.
Galaxy Note 3, HTC Rezound, HTC Evo 3D, HTC Evo, HTC Touch Pro 2, LG Voyager

Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.

From what I have seen so far with this phone is a root with some theming is plenty. Just flashing kernels never really (to me) felt like they did anything. I came from the s3, so just rooting debloating with some greenify makes this phone amazing.
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I say keep your Note 3, root it, freeze/remove bloatware, and customize with Wanam Xposed. As far as your "CONS" go, it sounds like you're going to need a tablet in addition to the Note 3. What kind of gaming are you looking to do? Do you just want something that has a bigger screen/better hardware?
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profman03 said:
Well, before I make any decisions I'm going to root and install xposed and see if I can get all the functionality I want that way. I'm still not too familiar with it since it wasn't a thing on the Thunderbolt... BUT, it looks like it can do a lot of things I want.
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Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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Just rooted, put xposed on there and wanam. Now I'm adjusting settings and debloating... things are looking up.

I'll sell u my mint verizon note 2..already unlocked running beans right now.

mlin said:
Between freezing bloat and xposed framework, its my opinion that custom stock based ROMs are starting to become obsolete. AOSP is a slightly different story.
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+1 Imo custom stock roms were never considered actual developing in the early android days. They were more so considered themes and the guys creating them were called Chefs. Something changed in the last couple years...however AOSP is were "real development" exists. Xposed app has pretty much shifted things back the other direction allowing the end user to modify a stock rom fairly easy. That combined with a few apps like Ninja morph to modify the framework.res files and the end user can create a custom stock rom fairly easy. I mainly run beans because of the AOSP themeing and I tweak the rest in myself. Dont take me wrong I appreciate guys like Beans because its time consuming doing the things he does.

Anyone interested in trading for a verizon lg g2? Already rooted, too...
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After messing around with root, and xposed for a while, I'm less concerned that there won't be enough support on this device to do the things that I want. I do have a few more questions, though:
1.) Has anyone started a list of all the apps that come on the stock rom and which we can freeze or delete entirely? (I will happily start this thread if there's interest and support for it.)
2.) Does anyone know how to prevent the volume getting reduced after plugging in headphones? I use my phone for music in my car and would really appreciate it if I didn't have to turn up the volume every time I plugged it in. (Wanam has an option to prevent the warning pop up, but the volume still gets reduced.)

Now that bump has gone is it worth getting a nexus 6?

Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks

I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/

ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
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So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate

raghavsharmaxda said:
At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
Blah blah
So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate
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Thanks for the good device and I think sticking with this is my decision after thinking about this phone does have problems but also has pros to I'm just worried that since the bump site has gone cm12 and other lollipop ROMs (which I am loving BTW) will stop being updated and remain as a buggy mess as they are( not terrible but not great) I guess I'll just wait and see what happens thanks for an amazing reply bug help dude

bb12489 said:
I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/
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Same with me I don't care about having loads of ROMs I would just love one aosp lollipop ROM that has everything and even quick circle support if that happened this device will be incredible, and I haven't heard of this open bump? Is there a thread for this I'd like to see this for myself thanks for the reply

Just to clarify for everyone the BUMP site has being shut down but bump is NOT gone at all we have an offline python script that can do it.
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ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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Bump is not dead by any means and the end-users will likely not notice any degradation in ROM development. The Open Bump option is still available and many devs will use this. Team Codefire may also privately Bump builds for certain devs. It boils down to the fact that several developers threw hissy fits over Open Bump. I understand the reason they are mad about another dev making their exploit public, but the amount of drama surrounding this is abit ridiculous and there are arguments for both sides. This is a topic for another day, just know that Bump is not dead and development for the G3 will continue, don't worry. Bump has already been implemented into the nightly builds of CM12 so it's not going anywhere. Just never take an OTA update now if you want to keep TWRP.

Thread needs to be closed bump still works just different way of doing it is all roms will still be here
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So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?

soldier16 said:
So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?
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Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.

ymcc said:
Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.
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I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!

soldier16 said:
I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!
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Yes.

but you must never update to lollipop to get xposed to work

What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?

MalekoUK said:
What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?
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People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.

DelBoy said:
People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.
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That isn't what happened, they made bump some guy got a stolen lg key to sign the boot.IMG files and also use there way yo bump and made it open source for everyone to use, the guy put credits to them but they had a tantrum cuz someone might have worked out how to do it and made it open source so anyone could use it without have to sign up for some ****ty website

Yez cuz iz biggerz.
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I'm not a developer, but from a price standpoint, there is no doubt ... The G3 with 32GB / 3GB ram cost me 1/2 the price of the Nexus 6. I believe for the money, the G3 is a fantastic device. Now, I know most people in the US will buy it on contract and won't have to put up 700 dollars (or 700 euros in my case) for a phone. But I believe techwise the N6 is a great phone, but I don't think it's worth the 700 euros (circa 1000 USD) while I got the G3 for almost half the price, and I had gone with the 16gb / 2gb ram version it would have been less than half.
If money isn't an issue, go for the N6. It will see development for years to come. But I really like the camera on the G3 and the size. 6 inches is really big for a phone in my usage.

Who told you the lie that Bump is gone? I'm still bumping my kernel here with a .py script =)

Why does this device forum dead?

So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
No offense.

thousandecibels said:
So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
No offense.
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Because this phone is a year old. The new moto x 2015 forums have been created. With time it will get slower and slower. The only exceptuon being when android m is relrased, those still on the moto x 2014 will start talking about it like crazy when it's time.
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AGISCI said:
Because this phone is a year old. The new moto x 2015 forums have been created. With time it will get slower and slower. The only exceptuon being when android m is relrased, those still on the moto x 2014 will start talking about it like crazy when it's time.
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Just because a device is a year old, people don't stop writing about it. Just take a look into the Nexus 5 forums.
The reason I think, why the Moto X forums aren't that active is simply because not so many people have this phone. Even fewer who are on xda.
For example the Nexus 5 has been sold far more often than the Moto X. And as Nexus phones are designed for devs and enthusiasts way more people here on xda have it and dev for this phone than for the Moto X.

i was looking into buying this phone and was very surprised at the lack of development for it, even after a year after release...i previously had a galaxy s3 and currently an lg g2 and development for those devices are very much in full force..i really wanted to buy this phone because it has such a great hardware build with great specs, but the lack of development turned me off

Well, the phone just works out of the box. Not much need of roms development when it works fine.

I must say, I am pretty much satisfied with the stock rom as it is.
Only thing that I want is Xposed modules for lollipop working flawless.
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I was just checking random threads... The Xperia SP was released in 2013 and is now 2 years old. We have got a very active community and golden developers with a lot of ROMs (even 5.1.1).
It is weird that your forums aren't active because everybody knows the Moto X.

CubeDev said:
I was just checking random threads... The Xperia SP was released in 2013 and is now 2 years old. We have got a very active community and golden developers with a lot of ROMs (even 5.1.1).
It is weird that your forums aren't active because everybody knows the Moto X.
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There are a bunch of 5.1.1 roms for the moto x as well...
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AGISCI said:
There are a bunch of 5.1.1 roms for the moto x as well...
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Then why are you complaining?

CubeDev said:
Then why are you complaining?
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I am not the person who posted the complaint... I was defending this phone's development by saying that we have the 5.1.1 roms too.
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Bought mine in december, didn't even root yet. It just works.

AGISCI said:
I am not the person who posted the complaint... I was defending this phone's development by saying that we have the 5.1.1 roms too.
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Oh I am sorry, I didn't read the name because I was busy.

This the first phone I used which doesn't need to root, modify or install a different ROM on it, I did it twice installing new ROMs but reverted back to stock in one or two days.
Moto X special features are not replaceable up till now.

Being stock is just the way it has to be. Just root few apps out some froze and xposed.... Finally most of the cellphone companies (lg, Sony, motorola, Google, dtc) are making an incredible work on the stock stuff....
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If this surprises you, you should see the 2013 Moto X forums. I have owned both and can tell you that the most viewed threads are probably related to rooting the phone. That's practically all I need.

kkhadr said:
This the first phone I used which doesn't need to root, modify or install a different ROM on it, I did it twice installing new ROMs but reverted back to stock in one or two days.
Moto X special features are not replaceable up till now.
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I completely agree with you.
Installed CM 12 snapshot.
Then CM 12.1 Nightly.
Nightly was buggy a bit.
Tried Nexus Exp.
Finally back on 5.1.1 stock.
Gotta say nothing beats the stock till now.
Still I'd like to see some active development for roms like MIUI, PA even as a Legacy Device.
Wish I had time to learn how to port

thousandecibels said:
So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
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The nice thing about the Moto X 2014 is that it works well out of the box without the need for much tweaking. I mainly need root to WiFi tether for free. I also like a few rooted apps like Titanium B/U and Adaway. CF Lumen is nice too. But other than that, there isn't much I need to change.
Now I have the XT1096 (Verizon) locked down tight model so I did have to get root via MoFo and that required some threads/posts to get accomplished. But other than that there isn't much to talk about when you have a phone that works great without needing much in the way of tweaks for you to have a good user experience. I value the Moto software more than any tweaks a custom ROM could give me so I don't miss the custom ROMs.
Once you get the MX14 rooted, there isn't really much to talk about b/c the phone is great without any custom ROMs. Accessories are worth talking about but people talk about those most when the phone is first released and then the chatter dies down. I don't even bother with a case very often on mine because the leather is so beautiful although I have a case I use if I am running outside. I don't use a screen protector either. I do use the Seidio Springclip holster for the GS5 because I like to have a holster. I have a FitBag case for the phone when it is in my purse, love it. I have the Hula bumper but don't use it.

JulesJam said:
The nice thing about the Moto X 2014 is that it works well out of the box without the need for much tweaking. I mainly need root to WiFi tether for free. I also like a few rooted apps like Titanium B/U and Adaway. CF Lumen is nice too. But other than that, there isn't much I need to change.
Now I have the XT1096 (Verizon) locked down tight model so I did have to get root via MoFo and that required some threads/posts to get accomplished. But other than that there isn't much to talk about when you have a phone that works great without needing much in the way of tweaks for you to have a good user experience. I value the Moto software more than any tweaks a custom ROM could give me so I don't miss the custom ROMs.
Once you get the MX14 rooted, there isn't really much to talk about b/c the phone is great without any custom ROMs. Accessories are worth talking about but people talk about those most when the phone is first released and then the chatter dies down. I don't even bother with a case very often on mine because the leather is so beautiful although I have a case I use if I am running outside. I don't use a screen protector either. I do use the Seidio Springclip holster for the GS5 because I like to have a holster. I have a FitBag case for the phone when it is in my purse, love it. I have the Hula bumper but don't use it.
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Truth! I've tried other ROMs but always come back to stock. Motos software is too valuable to me and I use it daily!

chapelfreak said:
Truth! I've tried other ROMs but always come back to stock. Motos software is too valuable to me and I use it daily!
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I think that since motorola razr and razr hd motorola is making awesome stuff on stock firmware, you don't really need a customs room, just root and, if you like the nav bar to be more thin or the center clock, xposed install and you're done. ... I came from a LG g2 because it broke and I am impressed on battery performance and system smooth, remember g2 got a 3k battery.....
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Low development

So maybe it's because I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and a Nexus 6p but the pixel development doesn't seem to be as bountiful. Could be the fact Oreo just got released and devs are busy or the pixel is harder to work with. Not complaining, just an observation. Just scored a pixel for nothing so this should get me through till the pixel 3 comes out. Really nice phone.

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So maybe it's because I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and a Nexus 6p but the pixel development doesn't seem to be as bountiful. Could be the fact Oreo just got released and devs are busy or the pixel is harder to work with. Not complaining, just an observation. Just scored a pixel for nothing so this should get me through till the pixel 3 comes out. Really nice phone.
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Also, the ownership takes a huge hit from sooo many Verizon owners being locked out of any rooting or mods of any kind. Big Red tells us that these phones are not ours to do with what we want. I would bet even after you pay the phone off you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader.
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FUZER384 said:
Also, the ownership takes a huge hit from sooo many Verizon owners being locked out of any rooting or mods of any kind. Big Red tells us that these phones are not ours to do with what we want. I would bet even after you pay the phone off you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader.
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That's true. Guess I didn't think of that. I'm in a area where Verizon is not good at all so to me they don't seem like a big deal. Then again I'm on us cellular which is way small lol. I wish I could get in that TMobile or att train and use a one plus device. That seems like the new Nexus but with no cdma support I can't get it.

This is actually the first phone that I felt satisfied with out of the box. I used be a flashaholic, but now I haven't even rooted my XL. Maybe that sentiment is also common.

yeah dev definitely slowed down after oreo update since it broke twrp for a while and devs had to figure out why rom flashes were bootlooping. just saw pixel dust was released for oreo so if you want a custom rom you can give that one a shot https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/rom-pixeldust-marlin-t3581750

It wasn't just Oreo hampering development. Even on Nougat it was a long effort just to dev recovery and root due to new system (A/B partitions) and security.
Stock Oreo is so solid no real need for ROM. It's enough to root and do a few tweaks or install kernel or run root apps. Even on 7.1 the custom roms offer very little over stock to bother with them.

So like I said I'm new to the pixel. What is the hot kernel? I know elemental is always a solid choice but I loved @TheFLash kernel on my Nexus 6p. What are you guys running for some additional battery life?

using kirisakura right now https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-kirisakura-kernel-0-1-t3554330 dev is active and always updates every month

snoprosledneck88 said:
So like I said I'm new to the pixel. What is the hot kernel? I know elemental is always a solid choice but I loved @TheFLash kernel on my Nexus 6p. What are you guys running for some additional battery life?
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Most use the Elemental X. There was also Franco, but no Oreo compatibility yet.

snoprosledneck88 said:
So maybe it's because I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and a Nexus 6p but the pixel development doesn't seem to be as bountiful. Could be the fact Oreo just got released and devs are busy or the pixel is harder to work with. Not complaining, just an observation. Just scored a pixel for nothing so this should get me through till the pixel 3 comes out. Really nice phone.
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I think it has a lot to do with how smooth the software is by default and how much Android has evolved. We can now theme are phones without root on stock roms, use picture in picture, split screen apps. Battery life is good, bloat is minimal. I'm running out of reasons to install a rom, there really is no longer a bit performance jump. The only rom I'm really interested in is Paranoid Android when it's Oreo release drops. They offer some very cool features that makes it just worth the effort such as the PIE wheel.

@snoprosledneck88 May I ask how you got a pixel for nothing? Been trying to get one for development/app development but don't feel like spending hundreds when I have a perfectly good phone right now.

loeffler23 said:
@snoprosledneck88 May I ask how you got a pixel for nothing? Been trying to get one for development/app development but don't feel like spending hundreds when I have a perfectly good phone right now.
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It was a replacement phone for a Nexus 6p that had a bad battery.

For me, it has to do with how smooth the phone is out of the box and the evolution of Substratum to enable theming which completes my needs.

harihacker said:
For me, it has to do with how smooth the phone is out of the box and the evolution of Substratum to enable theming which completes my needs.
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That's true. If I was on a "stable build" I would root and use it. (I'm on the Android beta program) I know you can do it without root but you need to buy another app so for right now it's a no-go.

You can root 8.1 beta no problem.

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You can root 8.1 beta no problem.
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I know you can. Maybe a little lazy haha. How often does android release a new beta? This is my first time being on it, always have flashed roms.

I gotta say I do miss the tons of options that come with custom roms.. Little things like the speed meter in the status bar, customizing the buttons, hardware volume keys to audio skip, etc.
Sure they aren't functional necessities but damn nice amenities once you get used to them. Does there exist something to add these kinds of features to 8.x?

Since Oreo release i don't flash Custom ROMs anymore. too much effort for me and i can spend that time on something productive ? .. I'm not missing any feature either. Skip playlist with volume button can be done with tasker, for data speed on status bar I'm using an app. For missing tiles in the extended notification panel, I'm using"tiles" app.
Right now on 8.1 beta. There will be another DP coming this month and then final launch in December I guess. Most stable DP1 I've even used so far
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Dp1 with root has been amazing. Incredible fluidity and insane battery. Zero complaints. Miss some small tweaks, and would love always on display, but we've come a long way from donut and eclair

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Also, the ownership takes a huge hit from sooo many Verizon owners being locked out of any rooting or mods of any kind. Big Red tells us that these phones are not ours to do with what we want. I would bet even after you pay the phone off you still won't be able to unlock your bootloader.
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I did a warranty exchange on my 32GB Verizon Pixel XL and they sent me a brand new 128GB Version. I booted it the 1st time with my TMO SIM and been happy ever since Bootloader UNLOCKED, Rooted, etc. There is however a lack of development compared to the Nexus 6, but flashing on the Pixel is like no other device. I'm new to the community and was confused as hell with the A Partion and B Partion flashing. Never ran into this before the Pixel, but im getting the hang of it...