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[Q] Find 5 questions before purchase

Hello you all
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I am planning to buy the find 5, but I want to be sure this is the right buy for me. I know the performance is awesome and the screen is one of the best or there, so +1 for those, but now for development support. I see there it's a fresh new cm10.1 so that seems ok but are you developers going to keep this phone for a long time? The price tag is pretty hefty for me and I want to keep the phone for a few years. Any change for long term development here? With android 5, and up support? Fast kernels?
Thank you so much
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Phenziox said:
Hello you all
mods, feel free to move our delete my post if you feel it's in the wrong section
I am planning to buy the find 5, but I want to be sure this is the right buy for me. I know the performance is awesome and the screen is one of the best or there, so +1 for those, but now for development support. I see there it's a fresh new cm10.1 so that seems ok but are you developers going to keep this phone for a long time? The price tag is pretty hefty for me and I want to keep the phone for a few years. Any change for long term development here? With android 5, and up support? Fast kernels?
Thank you so much
Sent from my HTC Desire C
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ask Oppo, but they might not guarantee it, or go back on their word
eg: motorola promises android update, then reneges on it
developers do porting on their free time, if you want to guarantee something (like having Android version x), do it yourself........ bootloader is unlocked - you can install anything you want on it

paperWastage said:
ask Oppo, but they might not guarantee it, or go back on their word
eg: motorola promises android update, then reneges on it
developers do porting on their free time, if you want to guarantee something (like having Android version x), do it yourself........ bootloader is unlocked - you can install anything you want on it
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Yeah I wasn't really talking about oppo itself, more of xda support
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Phenziox said:
Yeah I wasn't really talking about oppo itself, more of xda support
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as I said, devs work on this on their free time
no dev will tell you: "I will work on this forever and not sell it.. if it breaks, i'll get a new one to continue support"...
if you want android 5.x, learn how to port

paperWastage said:
as I said, devs work on this on their free time
no dev will tell you: "I will work on this forever and not sell it.. if it breaks, i'll get a new one to continue support"...
if you want android 5.x, learn how to port
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Yup. So far, I see myself as far less likely to wind up in the "OMFG I HATE THIS DEVICE AND I AM SICK OF DEALING WITH IT" category like all of the Exynos4 CM maintainers did.
That said, if I get spread too thin, the device might receive less attention in the future.
A lot depends more on Qualcomm than on Oppo.

Entropy512 said:
Yup. So far, I see myself as far less likely to wind up in the "OMFG I HATE THIS DEVICE AND I AM SICK OF DEALING WITH IT" category like all of the Exynos4 CM maintainers did.
That said, if I get spread too thin, the device might receive less attention in the future.
A lot depends more on Qualcomm than on Oppo.
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Well, you got that right
The exact reason why I was planning to skip on the s3
And to be clear, I wasnt trying to demand support, just asking whether it was there or not
And I saw the full source code was available so this seems like a good source to learn development xD
Thank you
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Oppo has been great about getting the find it developers hand. They have given out almost ten free devices. So there will be Roms, not as much as a nexus but a few. Again in the long term support won't be as good as a nexus but it uses a qualcom chip so support is easy, not nexus easy but second best. I say it will be supported as long as the nexus four dependent on binary issues.
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Wrong move?

Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.

Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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Not sure what you are looking for or what you are missing, but there has been plenty of Dev support for the VZW VS980

Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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I am talking from my experience with the G Pro. There are Roms but really all those CM based Roms or other ones are all weak compared to the stock based Roms. U loose so many features with those costume Roms. From dual shot camera and video to quick note to smart screen and smart video to some other great features u only have on stock ROM. U basically gonna cripple ur G2 if u use a costume ROM.
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Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.

ericdabbs said:
OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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This thread happens with every new phone lol! O.P even the phones you want to exchange with this one at some point had threads just like this one right before ROMS became available

2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from a lot of support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Sounds like the OP is the typical "user" anymore. For some reason even tjo they have no idea the amount of work that goes into building a rom or a kernel or mod, they just somehow feel entitled to get it when they want it. Guess what dude, had HTC ONE on release day , and development was slower than the G2 is. Want a rom when you want it.....build it yourself . this **** aint easy, if it was youd be building a rom instead of *****ing about it.

Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.

ericdabbs said:
Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Or just get an iPhone, it seems to have as much development future as the G2 according to the OP

Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Then return it, or sack up n learn how to do it yourself.....

Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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It hasn't even been a full month yet, and we have a decent amount of mods and a couple ROMs already. That's nothing to scoff at by any sort of reasonable standard. Slow your roll, bro.

Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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im a flashaholic, and once i got root on this bad boy i got all my apps i needed
gameplay is smooth
im really liking lg's UI and stock rom/kernel
Phone rarely even gets warm ,not hot.
Camera is really great
Quick Remote is great as well
Im satisfied with stock rom for once. lol
battery is INSANE checkout post #76 screenshots , no way thatll happen on the ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470564&page=8

I've owned plenty of popular flagship devices and even though they have plenty of ROM selection, I've found them to be very similar to each other so I only chose between two or three different ones as my daily driver... So ROM selection is usually over rated based on all the copycat ROM available.
I personally enjoyed my time more with the smaller and unpopular devices that had fewer ROM's at first but then development picked up. Which I think will be the case with this phone.
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Or how about STFU...I think that about covers it ?
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I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Medialunas said:
I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Ya with the nexus phone for sure. But for there non nexus phones.? I don't know if LG can be trusted to update those. Lol
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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from my experience the best roms out there is the one close to the ship rom. any AOSP or etc. roms will have missing features.

Hosehead said:
Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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U diserve it, whining cause someone else isnt doing work u want on your timeframe....... If its that big of a deal, do some research, and learn.... then u dont have to depend on anyone but u...

Why Is This Device Has Low Developing Activity

I've been watching this space for last few days, especially to know how much active development this device would get. There is no doubt that this is one of the best device you can buy right now in the Android market. But it still has less active development than a high end device would see after a month of its release. And being a cousin to Nexus 5, I thought this device will see the added advantage of much more development but what ever is happening is absolutely opposite to it. The development activity is so less, compared to what previous flagships HTC One, S4 had after one month of their respective release, there isn't a need to create separate forums for each major (carrier) version of the device.
Is it because locked bootloaders? or something else?.

blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer

I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.

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blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer
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Yes, I agree that LG G2 is not as quite as popular as it should beconfused but an average user doesn't hang out in XDA looking for different roms. Even Sony's one or two years old phones are getting KitKat where as this phone has not even having more ROMS to choose from. This is supposed to be the flagship & highest speced device along with Galaxy Note 3. And as I said, being a distant cousin device of Nexus 5, I thought many ROMs from different beloved developers will be available for this device but it is not the case. Many people like me choose Android platform over other(Windows Phone 8 & IOS) because of the availability of different ROMs to choose from. But seeing that is not the case, even those people back off from buying this device.

antinorm said:
I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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Its not only AOSP ROMs but also stock based ROMs too

Patience guys, the ROM's are coming.
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If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.

kimtyson said:
If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.
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With due respect, before giving those heroic comments & suggestions, you should have understand what I'm trying to do with this thread, which is to get to know the reasons for not seeing as much development as we usually see with flagship phones(I don't know where you get the notion that I was complaining). I never tried or try to complain or demand anything, heck who the hell I'm to even think of those lines. I clearly was asking for the reasons in the OP(than complaining about any thing) that is it because of locked bootloaders or some other reasons. And every flagship has different variants, its not this phone alone.
But one thing I'm sure about is, any one who visits or comes frequently to this wonderful forum, he/she buys the device which is supported by our beloved developers, they don't care about the manufacturers supporting them in software update.

The "why no development for this device" threads are getting tiresome no matter how an OP tries to disguise it.
If you want a device with a lot a ROM's, I suggest you get a Nexus or a Galaxy S phone and not an LG, Plain and simple.

A lot of xda users know that LG suck at providing updates to the latest version of Android. Samsung and HTC used to be the same way but they have really improved. Besides when it comes to GSM devs, I think most preferred going with the cheaper option the Nexus 5 offers. Also, quite a few people don't really like the rear button placement. Most of us have gotten used to it but try convincing someone who has yet to try the device.

LG is in Samsung's shadow
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antinorm said:
I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.

crashN2u said:
I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.
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I was lucky enough to get a nexus 5 very early after the launch...i played around with it the day i got then packed it up and sent it back the next day..bought a G2 the next day and am glad i did
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low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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muhamet said:
low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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Def low development for D803.
sent from my S4, Note 3 or G2

Theres a bounty in general to get all variants official AOKP. You want more development then donate.

force70 said:
Def low development for D803.
sent from my S4, Note 3 or G2
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force70 said:
Def low development for D803.
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Low development? There's no development.

Is pretty simple... Most devs knows that LG is not dev friendly and most devs has gone through this with LG before.

This particular lg is very dev friendly
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[Q] Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?

Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .

mko000 said:
Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .
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I am not sure but i am optimistic .cyanogenmod will be present in op2 also.
We should consider also the new huawei nexus. Oneplus 2 probably will have unlockable bootloader, so it will be developers friendly.
Also i dont think that developers will prefer zuk z1.

Yes i think it will

The Oneplus got much of its popularity due to it's low cost and the fact that rooting didn't affect warranty.
So far we don't know anything solid, except it will be under $450 (i'm guessing about €400).
I can only assume that they will keep their stance on rooting as most RMAs were hardware based.
However with them really pushing Oxygen OS, who really know, maybe they will pull the rooted warrant to try to encourage users to stick with their closed source OS...
If so I don't think it will be as popular, more expensive, less trustworthy processor, not really much of a better deal for developers...

Being a phone that is unlocked, developer friendly, and a company that promotes and supports development and flashing without voiding the warranty, the OP will e the phone to have for a developer just as the OPO is. YES, there will be mad development in my opinion.

mko000 said:
Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
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Looking at today's awful leaks, my interest for OP2 has vanished.
I think that OnePlus will void your warranty for OP2 if you unlock the bootloader.
It'll have good Developer support too.
If not here, then on oneplus forums.
The only problem will be that you can't downgrade your Android version if you ran into range of issues which is possible in OPO.
I can't comment about it's popularity, everything depends on Price!
Also, many new devices are developed and launched every month and the OnePlus claims it to be a "2016 Flagship Killer"
So I doubt about this statement this time. I'm sure that after OP2 is launched, many new competitors for this device will emerge out.

If this is the phone and it have Blisspop rom I'm in all the way....
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scabbie1980 said:
If this is the phone and it have Blisspop rom I'm in all the way....
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This picture is as real as Santa Claus....

davebugyi said:
This picture is as real as Santa Claus....
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I know, I was just saying that it looks like a great phone. No bezels more screen and look good in there hands... No phones ever look as good as the fakes they bring out....

My experience in XDA tells that custom ROM support for DUAL SIM phones are on the lower side. Going by that trend and since OP2 is rumored to be a DUAL sim, I think the developer support may be less. But I would love to see my presumptions proven wrong
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It's got all the features of successful dev-friendly Androids: top quality hardware, lower price than similar locked devices, Qualcomm SoC, easy to root. It's the next thing to a Nexus. Safe assumption is that devs will love it.

Yeah
Will grab one of these...
cheers

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Yeah
Will grab one of these...
cheers
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Hey as a DEV can you know the answer for my question on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/help/custom-roms-root-fingerprint-sensor-t3168267
Thanks

The only reservation I have is that Oxygen isn't exactly open source, which could make things rather difficult.

Jeisblack said:
Hey as a DEV can you know the answer for my question on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/help/custom-roms-root-fingerprint-sensor-t3168267
Thanks
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Heisenberg said:
The only reservation I have is that Oxygen isn't exactly open source, which could make things rather difficult.
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prety much ^^ THIS
If they don't provide the proper fingerprint driver code, it could be difficult to implement.
Also this thing haves so much includes (on other devices drivers), making one working driver from scratch (using driver from another phone) can (and will be) a big headache
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Why does this device forum dead?

So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
No offense.

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So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
No offense.
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Because this phone is a year old. The new moto x 2015 forums have been created. With time it will get slower and slower. The only exceptuon being when android m is relrased, those still on the moto x 2014 will start talking about it like crazy when it's time.
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AGISCI said:
Because this phone is a year old. The new moto x 2015 forums have been created. With time it will get slower and slower. The only exceptuon being when android m is relrased, those still on the moto x 2014 will start talking about it like crazy when it's time.
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Just because a device is a year old, people don't stop writing about it. Just take a look into the Nexus 5 forums.
The reason I think, why the Moto X forums aren't that active is simply because not so many people have this phone. Even fewer who are on xda.
For example the Nexus 5 has been sold far more often than the Moto X. And as Nexus phones are designed for devs and enthusiasts way more people here on xda have it and dev for this phone than for the Moto X.

i was looking into buying this phone and was very surprised at the lack of development for it, even after a year after release...i previously had a galaxy s3 and currently an lg g2 and development for those devices are very much in full force..i really wanted to buy this phone because it has such a great hardware build with great specs, but the lack of development turned me off

Well, the phone just works out of the box. Not much need of roms development when it works fine.

I must say, I am pretty much satisfied with the stock rom as it is.
Only thing that I want is Xposed modules for lollipop working flawless.
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I was just checking random threads... The Xperia SP was released in 2013 and is now 2 years old. We have got a very active community and golden developers with a lot of ROMs (even 5.1.1).
It is weird that your forums aren't active because everybody knows the Moto X.

CubeDev said:
I was just checking random threads... The Xperia SP was released in 2013 and is now 2 years old. We have got a very active community and golden developers with a lot of ROMs (even 5.1.1).
It is weird that your forums aren't active because everybody knows the Moto X.
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There are a bunch of 5.1.1 roms for the moto x as well...
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AGISCI said:
There are a bunch of 5.1.1 roms for the moto x as well...
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Then why are you complaining?

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Then why are you complaining?
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I am not the person who posted the complaint... I was defending this phone's development by saying that we have the 5.1.1 roms too.
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Bought mine in december, didn't even root yet. It just works.

AGISCI said:
I am not the person who posted the complaint... I was defending this phone's development by saying that we have the 5.1.1 roms too.
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Oh I am sorry, I didn't read the name because I was busy.

This the first phone I used which doesn't need to root, modify or install a different ROM on it, I did it twice installing new ROMs but reverted back to stock in one or two days.
Moto X special features are not replaceable up till now.

Being stock is just the way it has to be. Just root few apps out some froze and xposed.... Finally most of the cellphone companies (lg, Sony, motorola, Google, dtc) are making an incredible work on the stock stuff....
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If this surprises you, you should see the 2013 Moto X forums. I have owned both and can tell you that the most viewed threads are probably related to rooting the phone. That's practically all I need.

kkhadr said:
This the first phone I used which doesn't need to root, modify or install a different ROM on it, I did it twice installing new ROMs but reverted back to stock in one or two days.
Moto X special features are not replaceable up till now.
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I completely agree with you.
Installed CM 12 snapshot.
Then CM 12.1 Nightly.
Nightly was buggy a bit.
Tried Nexus Exp.
Finally back on 5.1.1 stock.
Gotta say nothing beats the stock till now.
Still I'd like to see some active development for roms like MIUI, PA even as a Legacy Device.
Wish I had time to learn how to port

thousandecibels said:
So yeah my question : 'Why does this device forum appears to be dead compared to others?
No offense.
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The nice thing about the Moto X 2014 is that it works well out of the box without the need for much tweaking. I mainly need root to WiFi tether for free. I also like a few rooted apps like Titanium B/U and Adaway. CF Lumen is nice too. But other than that, there isn't much I need to change.
Now I have the XT1096 (Verizon) locked down tight model so I did have to get root via MoFo and that required some threads/posts to get accomplished. But other than that there isn't much to talk about when you have a phone that works great without needing much in the way of tweaks for you to have a good user experience. I value the Moto software more than any tweaks a custom ROM could give me so I don't miss the custom ROMs.
Once you get the MX14 rooted, there isn't really much to talk about b/c the phone is great without any custom ROMs. Accessories are worth talking about but people talk about those most when the phone is first released and then the chatter dies down. I don't even bother with a case very often on mine because the leather is so beautiful although I have a case I use if I am running outside. I don't use a screen protector either. I do use the Seidio Springclip holster for the GS5 because I like to have a holster. I have a FitBag case for the phone when it is in my purse, love it. I have the Hula bumper but don't use it.

JulesJam said:
The nice thing about the Moto X 2014 is that it works well out of the box without the need for much tweaking. I mainly need root to WiFi tether for free. I also like a few rooted apps like Titanium B/U and Adaway. CF Lumen is nice too. But other than that, there isn't much I need to change.
Now I have the XT1096 (Verizon) locked down tight model so I did have to get root via MoFo and that required some threads/posts to get accomplished. But other than that there isn't much to talk about when you have a phone that works great without needing much in the way of tweaks for you to have a good user experience. I value the Moto software more than any tweaks a custom ROM could give me so I don't miss the custom ROMs.
Once you get the MX14 rooted, there isn't really much to talk about b/c the phone is great without any custom ROMs. Accessories are worth talking about but people talk about those most when the phone is first released and then the chatter dies down. I don't even bother with a case very often on mine because the leather is so beautiful although I have a case I use if I am running outside. I don't use a screen protector either. I do use the Seidio Springclip holster for the GS5 because I like to have a holster. I have a FitBag case for the phone when it is in my purse, love it. I have the Hula bumper but don't use it.
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Truth! I've tried other ROMs but always come back to stock. Motos software is too valuable to me and I use it daily!

chapelfreak said:
Truth! I've tried other ROMs but always come back to stock. Motos software is too valuable to me and I use it daily!
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I think that since motorola razr and razr hd motorola is making awesome stuff on stock firmware, you don't really need a customs room, just root and, if you like the nav bar to be more thin or the center clock, xposed install and you're done. ... I came from a LG g2 because it broke and I am impressed on battery performance and system smooth, remember g2 got a 3k battery.....
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