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[Q] XPrize: Get Gingerbread on Fascinate? GREEN LIT!

Hey guys,
I'm feeling rather enterprising at the moment. The question is, what would it take to get a clean/stock/aosp version of Gingerbread up and running for the Verizon Fascinate? Could an XPrize style reward work? If so how much would it need to be? $1000? less? A LOT MORE? Thoughts? PLEASE ANYBODY, THOUGHTS? I need replys from devs and non-devs... If there is enough interest we could easily setup a prize fund and have it auto-refund people if the prize was not attained within a given time frame...anybody?
/Andrew
UPDATE 1: I'm totally gonna set this up! See my latest post (pg.4) for more details and new questions.
UPDATE 2:
(1) Money is the strongest motivating force that we can use.
(2) Refunds will be available should you change your mind about supporting the XPRIZE.
(3) Waiting for an official release is futile. They are MONTHS behind on a Froyo release, and we will all likely have new phones with HoneyComb before we get gingerbread through official channels.
(4) The CDMA radio is understandable the biggest obstacle, money should at least get people to work more aggressively to fix this or pursue a leak.
(5) beg, borrow, steal, i want a true google experience with the ability to RULE THE AIR, on verizon.
"Can you hear me now?"

come on guys, i can tell this is getting a few views, just add a quick reply and say, that you think this a good or bad idea...please

Sounds appealing, but I don't think this is the ideal phone developers would want to spend time on. I'm using this phone simply as a bridge to the Nexus S.

i can understand the nexus S appeal, but i imagine there are many people who wouldn't want to leave Verizon. In fact i ditched my iphone not only because Steve Jobs is a prick, but more importantly because Verizon has a much better network...

trojjanhorse said:
Sounds appealing, but I don't think this is the ideal phone developers would want to spend time on. I'm using this phone simply as a bridge to the Nexus S.
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Oh, and it looks like you may not even have a Sansung Fascinate...on verizon...which is the phone i am posting about. Most of the Galaxy S variants are GSM/HSPA phones, the fascinate is a CDMA/EVDO phone and seems to be not benefit as much from the development on the other variants because of its different modem/radio. This is why i think we (verizon facinate owners) need to put some incentives out there...

I like the idea, just not sure how viable it actually is.
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dboss713 said:
I like the idea, just not sure how viable it actually is.
+1
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andrewblanejr said:
Oh, and it looks like you may not even have a Sansung Fascinate...on verizon...which is the phone i am posting about. Most of the Galaxy S variants are GSM/HSPA phones, the fascinate is a CDMA/EVDO phone and seems to be not benefit as much from the development on the other variants because of its different modem/radio. This is why i think we (verizon facinate owners) need to put some incentives out there...
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i agree with this

Would gladly donate a few bucks for that sweet Gingerbread..

It's a nice idea but I don't think it'll go. We don't even have a working port of 2.2 yet, nor AOSP of 2.2 running on this device... Would I like to see some gingerbread goodness? Why heck yes, but do I think it's possible...? Nope. Best just to wait for OTA release and modify it I say...
...Yes I know with samsungs history we wont see that until android 5.1 but that's besides the point!

I would gladly donate sounds like a good idea if we can make it happen
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Good idea sure
Although I have not done any really really heavy dev work for the platform, I think this is more a question on feasibility. Would I kick in for it sure, breaking totally free of the VZW\Samsung cycle would be great. However without some support or "leaks" making everything work would be a monumental task. At least if I understand the methodology.

i'd give at least $30 towards this..

I'm not going to say its not possible....but more like its not probable. It might get some money hungry devs on the fascinate though (ultimatedroid), so it cant be too bad. Well talk is cheap as they say.... So start the xPrize and see what happens...the worse thing that could happen is probably nothing gets done.
And i apologize right now in advance.... but this doesnt belong in this forum.... lol... i had to. im sorry.

Being a dev, I have to say its more trouble than its worth.
First we'd have to hack up at LEAST the .32 kernel and get froyo running. Without the froyo kernel source, its more of a pain than anything. Getting the system running to be compatible is no where near as hard as Getting the kernel.. That's something different.

I don't know what would be involved in making something like this happen, but I'd throw $50 at it.

Considering we don't have a fully working build of AOSP 2.1, I can't see this happening. Maybe if there is better source released for 2.2 when it gets here it will be easier, but I feel like if that happens, then devs would work on it anyway.

I don't think people realize that we've had aosp froyo all along. What we don't have is our driver specific kernel. We'll have gingerbread the day it becomes available but that doesn't mean anything as we won't have kernel again at the release.
@op you want us build up from the ground like we did with milestone? NONE of us will go through that hell again ever. $1000? haha that amount is nothing considering what we would put in if we were to build it up from the ground again.
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i have seen a prize work
a little history
my first smart phone was the VZ 6900 aka the HTC vogue
a windows mobile 6 phone that never had an "official" Rom or Kernel for android and yet the dev were able to not only build a fully working android 2.2 including getting all drivers to work, and as we speak those same vogue dev are now working on 2.3 builds, mind you i am not a dev and but i know this took a lot of work but a prize is what got the team moving and i would give $20 or more if we could get this going

So among poll responders most non-dev USERS would be willing to contribute some money towards this. Good news, but with only two responders claiming to be developers it's hard to say whether we could really get the interest of developers...perhaps i should PM some people? who are the big shot developers in these parts?

Petition to HTC: Release Ice Cream Sandwich update for HTC Desire Z

Please sign.
change.org/petitions/htc-release-ice-cream-sandwich-update-for-htc-desire-z

Not interested in HTC factory bloat.
Already running Android 4 on Vision.

dhkr234 said:
Not interested in HTC factory bloat.
Already running Android 4 on Vision.
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Sense 4 is FAST. Its not bloated. U should sign it anyway, if we got it then we would have all official libs and everything will work fine :')
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dhkr234 said:
Not interested in HTC factory bloat.
Already running Android 4 on Vision.
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An official release would help improve the custom roms you know. Luckily we'll be able to get drivers from the Desire HD and Desire S ISC OTAs
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Signed it

I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.

Nospin said:
I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.
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So right!
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Nospin said:
I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.
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well said, and i agree. i believe everyone here should donate to the developers who work so hard for us to enjoy our phones. but also, at the same time, we have to do whatever we can to get the drivers(fast), so that the developers can finish the projects that they've been working on for so long.

Regardless of whether it's worth it or not, it only takes 30 seconds to fill out that petition. So everyone here should just give it a shot for what it's worth, even if it's worth nothing.

Nospin said:
I hate being that guy who always hates on these threads, and I know that your hearts are in the right place, but this doesn't have a chance in hell. HTC is a company out to make money. Wasting dev time on an update to a phone that is neither a flagship device nor a big seller doesn't make them money. Updates ARE coming for phones with almost identical hardware. We will get official drivers, don't worry.
Rather than seeing one of these threads pop up every few weeks, why not work as a community to set up something like "Desire Z Donation Day", where everyone in the forum vows to give to Cyanogenmod or other devs who work on updating our devices for zero pay.
Again don't take this as putting you guys down, but let's work together on something that can have an actual impact.
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And what are you suggesting we donate? Cyanogen already made it clear that donating won't speed up the process of any specific device, A similar situation happened when the CM team was making Windows Mobile roms. A Xperia X1 was paid for and sent out to Cyanogen and he never worked around to get a rom made for it. . .

I don't want to sound like I'm bashing at anyone or anything...but,
First off, the sole reason for donating DEV's is to show them your support. Tarroyo's reply kind of gave me a chuckle, I wasn't expecting such a reply at an XDA-like board.
That said, one of the reasons HTC will not release an update to the DZ is the fact it'll be plenty more work because they'd have to write several code for functions unique to our device, like the Hardware Keyboard. Devices such as the DHD (which are FLAGSHIP by the way) don't have this kind of work and building ICS for it would be less effort, hence less work, hence more time to focus on something else for the HTC DEV's. Even so, doing all of this isn't really hard for them, nor all that time consuming either...which takes us to the second reason why they won't build it, and that is because, for them, it's just not worth it. This has been said DOZENS of times, yet people still go like "petition this, petition that, change!". No change, no Official ICS. CM9, Andromadus, Quattro (and latter ROM's) will be more than enough. Besides, it has ALSO been mentioned that the DHD and DS have almost identical hardware, hence we will have no issue in getting OFFICIAL drivers.
Bottom line/ TL;DR is, we are not going to get official ICS for the DZ; ICS ROM's here will do; and this is almost a dead device as far as HTC is concerned.

Signed it
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For what it's worth it... Signed!

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Sense 4 is FAST. Its not bloated. U should sign it anyway, if we got it then we would have all official libs and everything will work fine :')
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By definition, any added worthless crap that slows it down (perhaps not quite as much as older versions) is BLOAT.
NOT INTERESTED.
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C.Flat said:
An official release would help improve the custom roms you know. Luckily we'll be able to get drivers from the Desire HD and Desire S ISC OTAs
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In the VERY short term, perhaps.
In the long term, it will cripple them.
What we need is to filter the kernel out of the kernel source and learn how to patch newer kernels to work with this hardware. The sooner we get completely cut off by HTC (hopefully already has happened), the sooner this work will be underway, and the sooner we get a REAL GOOD AOSP system running, completely without crap.

Signed
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This isn't going to work as much as I'd like it to. To be honest some of the other posters are right. Other devices with identical hardware will get the update. With out current ics roms that's all that's missing. That "smoothness" because we don't have the right drivers. Be patient peeps. It took 2-3 months for the nexus s to get ics to where it is. Its gonna take a wee bit longer for us. (Not for me. Getting a gs2 next week )
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RushAOZ, you will be missed. (Just joking.)
But, you're pretty much on spot. Once they release the official drivers for our chipset we'll have a smoother experience, but most importantly a more stable/efficient/consistent one.

sign it~~
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signed it...
and just for the other "i don't care 'bout this" users: u don't care? then go buy a gnex... good luck with that

Signed in
Waiting for an update!
We have a phone that has the same characteristic of htc one v so we wants htc sense 4 and ics!
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Get FRANSISCO KERNEL same Nexus 4

Hi every one. I had bought an OPPO Find 5. After 1 month use, I see Oppo stock kernel is very very bad. And to less developer and user support developing the F5 Rom & Kernel too. Especial the KERNEL. Althought the Find5 have the best design. But stock rom & kernel from OPPO is very bad. The battery so bad, the performance not optimized yet, not fully control the hardware of this.
I have ever used The Fransisco kernel for LG Optimus one and Nexus 4, feel its very good.
I want to open new topic to aks every one to contact and donate Fransisco an OPPO FIND 5 to improve overall F5 quality.
Many thaks for support.
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Agreed... And I am in!!! I think Francisco makes the best kernels!!! Let's get this going!!!!
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Guys .. Just go to the official oppo forums and get in touch with the mods there.. They are very much developer friendly and have sent a lot of devs devices.. Who have been interested.. So they will for sure send Francisco a device if he wants to develop!
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2 things, one, this shouldn't be in original development, and 2, sadly @franciscofranco has made it very clear he does not plan on making kernels for non-nexus phones. It's POSSIBLE that with oppo's level of openness he could change his mind, but don't try to convince him, and be prepared for him to say no.

noneabove said:
2 things, one, this shouldn't be in original development, and 2, sadly @franciscofranco has made it very clear he does not plan on making kernels for non-nexus phones. It's POSSIBLE that with oppo's level of openness he could change his mind, but don't try to convince him, and be prepared for him to say no.
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He made kernels for the S3. Has that changed?

robifis said:
He made kernels for the S3. Has that changed?
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I think that's more what led him to not want to do it anymore, he found it too much of a hassle especially with how many experienced devs there already were, the effort required for how much his kernels could improve stock was just not worth it and he decided to stick to Nexus, BUT, like I said, maybe the Oppo Find 5 isn't a hassle, like, at all, but like I said don't pressure him and don't expect him to say yes

noneabove said:
I think that's more what led him to not want to do it anymore, he found it too much of a hassle especially with how many experienced devs there already were, the effort required for how much his kernels could improve stock was just not worth it and he decided to stick to Nexus, BUT, like I said, maybe the Oppo Find 5 isn't a hassle, like, at all, but like I said don't pressure him and don't expect him to say yes
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Maybe make a petition

robifis said:
Maybe make a petition
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Oh I'm sure he'd LOVE that! While we're at it lets spam each of his threads incessantly until he complies, and subsequently releases a kernel explicitly written to brick only the people who spammed him's phones

We should see if Oppo will help us like they did for Faux.
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The lack of development saddens me

Why? Is it because the phone is unpopular with the dev community, or because it's hard to build for this phone? There isn't even any UNofficial CyanogenMod being made.
This is why I love the Nexus line of devices.. so much development even before the product gets released. The lack of Moto X development is making me iffy about purchasing one

I had actually just assumed this would have had a ton of ROMs by now until I saw your thread pop up. I have to say visiting the dev section I'm shocked. It definitely crosses an X off my list as I was leaning G2 or One anyway.

agreed im trying to sell my x for a Nexus 5
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I feel ya. Got roped into joining Verizon and got the most Nexus like modern phone available (the X). At least the stock ROM is great. Once things slow down at my day job I'll see what I can do to help the Moto X Dev community. Seems that with Verizon I'll need to root and unlock just to get the normal updates other carriers get (without waiting sometime between 6 months and hell freezing over)
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Aokp is ramping up for a release, they have already released a few betas... No sprint though, only Verizon and T-Mobile and att
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DonDizzurp said:
Why? Is it because the phone is unpopular with the dev community, or because it's hard to build for this phone? There isn't even any UNofficial CyanogenMod being made.
This is why I love the Nexus line of devices.. so much development even before the product gets released. The lack of Moto X development is making me iffy about purchasing one
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Development takes time the device is still new. It won't have nearly as much as the nexus line bit people are working on it.

shane1 said:
Development takes time the device is still new. It won't have nearly as much as the nexus line bit people are working on it.
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I find it funny how people "demand" that there be development. I'd imagine that the phone is hard and somewhat unknown to work on with the X8 chipset....Time. all good things come with time. even if they dont all this phone needs is root and xposed.

DonDizzurp said:
Why? Is it because the phone is unpopular with the dev community, or because it's hard to build for this phone? There isn't even any UNofficial CyanogenMod being made.
This is why I love the Nexus line of devices.. so much development even before the product gets released. The lack of Moto X development is making me iffy about purchasing one
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unofficial releases were launched before most people even got dev editions fyi. Further,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481048
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484762
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/1...-now-available-gsm-unlocked-bootloaders-only/
and I'm sure a simple google search would produce plenty of things you might want to try. But having as much dev as we have already had is pretty good to men considering the type of phone, how new it is, and how late all of the software and builds got released.
matt99017d said:
I find it funny how people "demand" that there be development. I'd imagine that the phone is hard and somewhat unknown to work on with the X8 chipset....Time. all good things come with time. even if they dont all this phone needs is root and xposed.
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agreed completely. Why would you expect a brand new phone with brand new chipset would magically get great roms. people have to learn what is going on just how the OP is learning that things come with time.

not like i miss the dev on this phone, i mean it's pretty much aosp
what else were you expecting?
most roms out there are aosp based

RorixRebel said:
not like i miss the dev on this phone, i mean it's pretty much aosp
what else were you expecting?
most roms out there are aosp based
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Yea I figure as long as we have root, the stock ROM should be good enough with Motorola's tweaks.

I've read a thread similar to this on all of my phones from the OG galaxy S (captivate). I would say give it some time, heck the dev edition only came out a few weeks ago.

The fact that its impossible to unlock the bootloader on the major carriers is another bottleneck as well. If/when theres a bootloader unlock, the development will come.

Are roms even necessary though? I've always been a terrible crack flasher, but this rom with xposed and gravity box it's pretty much cyanogen. I'm super happy with stock for the first time ever
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matt99017d said:
I find it funny how people "demand" that there be development. I'd imagine that the phone is hard and somewhat unknown to work on with the X8 chipset....Time. all good things come with time. even if they dont all this phone needs is root and xposed.
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jayboyyyy said:
unofficial releases were launched before most people even got dev editions fyi. Further,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481048
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484762
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/1...-now-available-gsm-unlocked-bootloaders-only/
and I'm sure a simple google search would produce plenty of things you might want to try. But having as much dev as we have already had is pretty good to men considering the type of phone, how new it is, and how late all of the software and builds got released.
agreed completely. Why would you expect a brand new phone with brand new chipset would magically get great roms. people have to learn what is going on just how the OP is learning that things come with time.
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The chipset is hardly anything new.. "X8" is just a marketing term.
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I enjoy not flashing roms all the time. I can finally personalize this phone and keep it that way. The only thing I miss is the cm themes.
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joshnichols189 said:
The chipset is hardly anything new.. "X8" is just a marketing term.
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oh so people have made roms for other phones with similar chipsets? I didn't know other similar phones existed. Learn something new everyday. Wonder why dev's didn't just create all the things the moto x can do themselves if those phones already had the ability...

gamingforfact said:
I enjoy not flashing roms all the time. I can finally personalize this phone and keep it that way. The only thing I miss is the cm themes.
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Check out the xposed theme engine
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jayboyyyy said:
oh so people have made roms for other phones with similar chipsets? I didn't know other similar phones existed. Learn something new everyday. Wonder why dev's didn't just create all the things the moto x can do themselves if those phones already had the ability...
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The Moto X uses a Qualcomm S4 Pro SoC. It was never anything special. Motorola just markets the additional processors as a whole to make the concept easier to understand. Development would be similar to any other new phone.
Porting popular ROMs while retaining the functionality of Active Notifications and Touchless Control may/may not be whole different ball game though.

The X is impressive for a standard carrier device, but nothing will beat a Nexus. I would say The X is, by far, the closest to stock you'll find (again, outside a nexus).
The Moto bloat is slipped in almost unnoticeably and the junk apps are easy to deal with (I actually find some of the 'bloat' well done, such as moto assist - though I still prefer tasker). Happiest off the shelf device I've had since the ogDroid, but hoping to get an N5 for real Dev stuff.

MajorTankz said:
The Moto X uses a Qualcomm S4 Pro SoC. It was never anything special. Motorola just markets the additional processors as a whole to make the concept easier to understand. Development would be similar to any other new phone.
Porting popular ROMs while retaining the functionality of Active Notifications and Touchless Control may/may not be whole different ball game though.
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They call it an S4 pro but its really a dual core SnapDragon 600. Its the the same CPU cores just 2 instead of 4 and still has the same quad core GPU.
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[Q] Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?

Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .

mko000 said:
Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .
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I am not sure but i am optimistic .cyanogenmod will be present in op2 also.
We should consider also the new huawei nexus. Oneplus 2 probably will have unlockable bootloader, so it will be developers friendly.
Also i dont think that developers will prefer zuk z1.

Yes i think it will

The Oneplus got much of its popularity due to it's low cost and the fact that rooting didn't affect warranty.
So far we don't know anything solid, except it will be under $450 (i'm guessing about €400).
I can only assume that they will keep their stance on rooting as most RMAs were hardware based.
However with them really pushing Oxygen OS, who really know, maybe they will pull the rooted warrant to try to encourage users to stick with their closed source OS...
If so I don't think it will be as popular, more expensive, less trustworthy processor, not really much of a better deal for developers...

Being a phone that is unlocked, developer friendly, and a company that promotes and supports development and flashing without voiding the warranty, the OP will e the phone to have for a developer just as the OPO is. YES, there will be mad development in my opinion.

mko000 said:
Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .
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Looking at today's awful leaks, my interest for OP2 has vanished.
I think that OnePlus will void your warranty for OP2 if you unlock the bootloader.
It'll have good Developer support too.
If not here, then on oneplus forums.
The only problem will be that you can't downgrade your Android version if you ran into range of issues which is possible in OPO.
I can't comment about it's popularity, everything depends on Price!
Also, many new devices are developed and launched every month and the OnePlus claims it to be a "2016 Flagship Killer"
So I doubt about this statement this time. I'm sure that after OP2 is launched, many new competitors for this device will emerge out.

If this is the phone and it have Blisspop rom I'm in all the way....
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scabbie1980 said:
If this is the phone and it have Blisspop rom I'm in all the way....
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This picture is as real as Santa Claus....

davebugyi said:
This picture is as real as Santa Claus....
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I know, I was just saying that it looks like a great phone. No bezels more screen and look good in there hands... No phones ever look as good as the fakes they bring out....

My experience in XDA tells that custom ROM support for DUAL SIM phones are on the lower side. Going by that trend and since OP2 is rumored to be a DUAL sim, I think the developer support may be less. But I would love to see my presumptions proven wrong
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It's got all the features of successful dev-friendly Androids: top quality hardware, lower price than similar locked devices, Qualcomm SoC, easy to root. It's the next thing to a Nexus. Safe assumption is that devs will love it.

Yeah
Will grab one of these...
cheers

superdragonpt said:
Yeah
Will grab one of these...
cheers
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Hey as a DEV can you know the answer for my question on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/help/custom-roms-root-fingerprint-sensor-t3168267
Thanks

The only reservation I have is that Oxygen isn't exactly open source, which could make things rather difficult.

Jeisblack said:
Hey as a DEV can you know the answer for my question on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/help/custom-roms-root-fingerprint-sensor-t3168267
Thanks
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I already answered ...
Heisenberg said:
The only reservation I have is that Oxygen isn't exactly open source, which could make things rather difficult.
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prety much ^^ THIS
If they don't provide the proper fingerprint driver code, it could be difficult to implement.
Also this thing haves so much includes (on other devices drivers), making one working driver from scratch (using driver from another phone) can (and will be) a big headache
cheers