Hi guys
Just bought a N4 today, and wounder if there is any way of not tripping knox?
I cant find any way with serarch!
3kgt said:
Hi guys
Just bought a N4 today, and wounder if there is any way of not tripping knox?
I cant find any way with serarch!
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No.
rs tony said:
No.
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what is the benefit of not tripping knox?
i am hesitant to root because of this whole knox thing, i've never had to deal with it.
tb5... said:
what is the benefit of not tripping knox?
i am hesitant to root because of this whole knox thing, i've never had to deal with it.
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Knox is in hardware, so u can"t cheat that yet.
tb5... said:
what is the benefit of not tripping knox?
i am hesitant to root because of this whole knox thing, i've never had to deal with it.
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@3kgt
You can root but you will trip knox, it's a security feature, when tripped it apparently makes a physical change, in the past with other Samsung handsets with knox there have been methods to root without tripping it, but not on the note 4.
Rooting and installing custom roms frees your handset, the performance and customization you gain from doing this (for me at least) far out weighs not retaining warranty, not to mention that Samsung do sometimes overlook the fact that knox has been tripped and have been known to fix tripped phones. Risky though so you should always assume the worst if you need to make a warranty claim.
The decision at the end of the day is yours, just get insurance and if something goes wrong, make a claim if you're really worried.
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With the age of the note now, chances are it'll never be done so tripping knox is here to stay.
dladz said:
@3kgt
You can root but you will trip knox, it's a security feature, when tripped it apparently makes a physical change, in the past with other Samsung handsets with knox there have been methods to root without tripping it, but not on the note 4.
Rooting and installing custom roms frees your handset, the performance and customization you gain from doing this (for me at least) far out weighs not retaining warranty, not to mention that Samsung do sometimes overlook the fact that knox has been tripped and have been known to fix tripped phones. Risky though so you should always assume the worst if you need to make a warranty claim.
The decision at the end of the day is yours, just get insurance and if something goes wrong, make a claim if you're really worried.
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With the age of the note now, chances are it'll never be done so tripping knox is here to stay.
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THx for the detailed explaining mate. Im aware of knox and have rooted N3 and N2 at home now... but just wanted 2 make sure that there is no fix or bypass yet.. there is 4 example a buypass for my N3 without tripping stupid knox.
Problem is the phone ia bought by my company. Cost 6800 Swedish kr. Wich is a lot for a phone. And not covered by private insuarance. So i will olay with it 4 a few days a decide later. I love rooting and xposed, dunno if i can get used 2 it without. Damn Sammy with there knox.
3kgt said:
THx for the detailed explaining mate. Im aware of knox and have rooted N3 and N2 at home now... but just wanted 2 make sure that there is no fix or bypass yet.. there is 4 example a buypass for my N3 without tripping stupid knox.
Problem is the phone ia bought by my company. Cost 6800 Swedish kr. Wich is a lot for a phone. And not covered by private insuarance. So i will olay with it 4 a few days a decide later. I love rooting and xposed, dunno if i can get used 2 it without. Damn Sammy with there knox.
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Yea I hear you there, I have an iPhone 6 corporate device, haven't even contemplated jailbreaking it.
In all fairness though, with a different launcher, a decent icon theme pack and some decent apps you can cover quite a bit of the stuff you get from custom ROMs, you won't have cm12 or a custom kernel, you won't have a modified system ui / settings, but it'll be a lot better than touchwiz.
The Google experience launcher for me is my go to launcher, it never slows down and you retain the spen goodies, fingerprint scanner and heartbeat monitor.
There's also a need root thread here in the Q&A section with some superb work arounds, take a look it may be what you need.
@dladz
so the only real benefit is warranty?
i am in canada and got my phone from kijijii online seller,
if that's the case i'll look into the best way to root the UAE 910c
thanks for the info.
Well take a look at what's available custom rom wise, not all variants are catered for at the same level. The 910F which is what I have is probably the most popular AFAIK. So check out development and see what's there for yourself before you commit. Warranty is literally the only thing stopping you, plus the fact you could mess up your phone.
Make sure you back up your efs partition the first chance you get, once you've committed there's no turning back. For me it's the only way to enjoy android.
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The thread I mentioned before was for people who didn't want to root and the potential alternatives to using rooted apps and zips. Like I said, worth a look.
tb5... said:
@dladz
so the only real benefit is warranty?
i am in canada and got my phone from kijijii online seller,
if that's the case i'll look into the best way to root the UAE 910c
thanks for the info.
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no the real benefit is knox with its app store and management platform. its awesome.
? Really?
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Knox is an abomination. No one benefits from knox
I dont use Touchwiz.. Thow i dont think that it sucks as much as some say! Its okey for beginners or "normal" users..
But personally i use nova prime wich is much faster and love the fact that u can backup and take it to the next phone.. U have Okej google in it as well.
I will try to live without root, thow i love skipping adds, removing blotware, Xposed, Call recording, and many other goodys.. Thow i never install costum rooms, personalt i think sammy rooms are okey but need some cleaning.
Hopefully we will get some root method soon :s
Will even call samsung service and make sure about knox and warrenty..but knowing myself i wont be able to wait too loong without rooting.
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Knox is an abomination. No one benefits from knox
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yes really. knox is such an abdomination that google is adopting it for all android versions in the future. so get over it.
its very useful and allows excellent control over the phone and privacy as well.
zurkx said:
yes really. knox is such an abdomination that google is adopting it for all android versions in the future. so get over it.
its very useful and allows excellent control over the phone and privacy as well.
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Im with u there.. Its good 2 have it, But You should be able 2 download it IF you want to!
Now with a stock Sammy phone u will see that it has many parts open and runing in background even thow i dont use it!
And i think if sammy wants more costumers, then they should really skip the knox warranty **** :S I pay about 650-750$ for a New phone every year and its should be 100% mine to controll as i wish. They should for example say if knox is void, then no software warranty is givven, but hardware still should be there as loong as user is not dum and have messed with settings to FU the hardware...
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no the real benefit is knox with its app store and management platform. its awesome.
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can you elaborate or a link? or let me know what to search to find out more about this.
just want to know if its worth the root or not.
are you rooted?
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yes really. knox is such an abdomination that google is adopting it for all android versions in the future. so get over it.
its very useful and allows excellent control over the phone and privacy as well.
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Attitude much? They can keep it. I'll be rooting and thus tripping knox on every single phone I have. Can't see HTC adopting knox and that'll be my next phone anyway.
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More to the point can you elaborate on exactly what knox brings to the table besides a corporate secure structure, as a consumer there is no benefit at all. Can you explain what you're saying?
tb5... said:
can you elaborate or a link? or let me know what to search to find out more about this.
just want to know if its worth the root or not.
are you rooted?
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sure. sign up for knox express free at samsungknox.com .. im not rooted obviously.
heres what it looks like :
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knox has an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
zurkx said:
sure. sign up for knox express free at samsungknox.com .. im not rooted obviously.
heres what it looks like :
knox has an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
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and for the bloke who just wants to buy a phone, root it, install cyanogen mod and then reverse it if an error which was not caused by rooting happens and then he can't return it because knox is tripped? What about then? Not everyone gives a crap about security on this level, not everyone wants a corporate structure either, infact not everyone worries about the FBI worrying about them?!?
In-fact the majority of users who go into a shop to buy a phone with a tinkering mind, who simply just want to buy a phone they can root and put some customisations on it like xposed, or even just to remove some bloat, in that respect for them and for probably a bunch of people here on XDA including myself and yourself unless you work for the government (in which case you would only be using this device unrooted as you're on a corporate scheme) this is worthless junk which adds something which no one here will ever need, besides a select few.
Let me tell you something which is being forgotten as time goes on, the whole principle behind Android is CHOICE, this is why people who buy android are avoiding apple, they want to choose what happens on their phones and not have someone else tell them what to do, by doing this they are essentially taking that away from people and thus losing the essence of what makes android android.
It's a shame that this has happened and it's even worse that people like yourselves can't see the bigger picture and whom actually support it and it's implications to ourselves and freedom of choice, at the end of the day a high end phone will cost you around £500, that's not peanuts to most.
Think about it.
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And before you think i'm just bashing you, i simply am saying how i feel about being told what to do, even if the upside is something which I can use to avoid detection in the real world, I'm not hiding anything but if this is the way things are going then i'd rather do without.
Having this amount of security as a choice is amazing, being forced to have it is kind of like living in north korea.
Google has gone far enough with what they've been doing, this is a little too much.
let me put my 2 cents...
i've rooted every single phone i had (even the note3 when the towel root came out), but on my note4 i'm didn't.
one of the reasons is that i don't want to waste my 700€ voiding my warranty
the other reason (that should be the most important for 3kgt since he has a company phone) is the secure environment that your company can decide to use.
if your company decides to deploy apps on your phone using knox you'll be definitely unable to use the phone!
bye
alessandro_xda said:
let me put my 2 cents...
i've rooted every single phone i had (even the note3 when the towel root came out), but on my note4 i'm didn't.
one of the reasons is that i don't want to waste my 700€ voiding my warranty
the other reason (that should be the most important for 3kgt since he has a company phone) is the secure environment that your company can decide to use.
if your company decides to deploy apps on your phone using knox you'll be definitely unable to use the phone!
bye
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Thanks mate, but i didnt mention that i bouhgt it fo myself by the company
Sure i use it in work as well, but not that kind wich needs knox.
And i agre with Dladz that Android is about freedom and knox is not a nice part of it.. I will Root my N4 for sure, but will first talk to Samsung service + might wait for a better way or if someone makes a way 2 root without tripping knox. It sucks that most big koders seems to have left rooting in order 2 work for Google or others :s
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So we got our shiny new N3's... we all (well 98% of us love them... lets not get technical about the % lol)... the xda devs started working on root...which is awesome.. having some issues getting root figured out (always the case on new and newer devices).....
Really though. What's the point of rooting? It can void your warranty. Possibly set of Knox.. and up until now there is only 1 one click type root function that is under speculation(will leave the name out for threads sake)... which I will not use. If you root do you get rid of alot of the licensing checks on apk's? We always have a lot of mods that we can add. I agree the bloat ware blows... but its still quite fast.... and if u got a nice size sd card... it doesn't matter that much... We can't flash roms yet so thats a negative for now.... So again.. what's the real point to root?
I'm sure nobody that's rooted cares that much to do so.. but if you feel inclined... explain some real solid reasons for rooting.. and the method that works without tripping knox.(this phone will eventually go back to verizon).... if you need to pm me please do so....
Seriously, just do a search. This has been discussed ad nauseum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root or not
If you're the type of person that has to ask, then rooting probably isn't for you.
I root to remove bloatware, customize the phone in ways that are otherwise impossible, and just to have the freedom to do whatever I want (at least within the confines of the locked bootloader, grrr). I have used iOS for years, and my main issue with it was the restrictions Apple placed upon the system. I would find x or y thing I didn't like, but had no control over it. I fail to see the point of Android if you can't do what you like to it. Otherwise it's just a locked-down OS from a different vendor.
frieked said:
Seriously, just do a search. This has been discussed ad nauseum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root or not
If you're the type of person that has to ask, then rooting probably isn't for you.
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I've rooted every device I've ever had on android.... 4.3 is starting to get to the point where we have most of the bells and whistles... Now I don't get down to the coding and programming (how many of us really do) but I love to take advantage of things that otherwise couldn't... simple app mods don't incline me enough to lose warranty. I rom probably would... Just saying it's not that i'm a dummy not understanding what root is... it's that its kind of iffy at the moment.... if someone knows 100% that it won't trip knox and you can revert back I'd give it a shot... I haven't seen that option yet that is 100% proven and cleared by xda or any other reputable sites.....
(pm me if there is something i need to know... i hold no one accountable)
only thing i could see as a definite positive to me is rom toolbox... amazing app.... able to freeze apps/back up etc..
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I've rooted every device I've ever had on android.... 4.3 is starting to get to the point where we have most of the bells and whistles... Now I don't get down to the coding and programming (how many of us really do) but I love to take advantage of things that otherwise couldn't... simple app mods don't incline me enough to lose warranty. I rom probably would... Just saying it's not that i'm a dummy not understanding what root is... it's that its kind of iffy at the moment.... if someone knows 100% that it won't trip knox and you can revert back I'd give it a shot... I haven't seen that option yet that is 100% proven and cleared by xda or any other reputable sites.....
(pm me if there is something i need to know... i hold no one accountable)
only thing i could see as a definite positive to me is rom toolbox... amazing app.... able to freeze apps/back up etc..
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You'll find out once google releases the next version of android and 365 days later verizon finally updates their device....
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Seriously, just do a search. This has been discussed ad nauseum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root or not
If you're the type of person that has to ask, then rooting probably isn't for you.
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kwkw480 said:
You'll find out once google releases the next version of android and 365 days later verizon finally updates their device....
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agreed.... at that point i would take that plunge... (root would be better then too i'm sure(devs making things proven more and more)) shutting down svoice would be good too.... alot of that stuff would take a rom to really be a "kitkat" so i don't see the rush and still see no real reason to root at the moment..... anyone else? lol
that link sent me to a page with seveal posts and didn't see the one that you quoted.. nauseum? repost?
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You'll find out once google releases the next version of android and 365 days later verizon finally updates their device....
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Well, only if ROMs are available.
I'm with the original poster on this subject. I've rooted and ROMed my phones since forever. But the goal was to change the ROM. Until a ROM is available for the N3 there's no compelling reason to root. Yeah, TiBu is nice to use but Helium is adequate. (I used Helium to move my apps from N2 to N3).
Getting rid of bloatware? That's a political decision, not a practical one. People say that because "they're rebelling against the man." This phone is so ridiculously fast that bloatware does nothing to harm performance. If you don't like seeing it in the app tray then just use a launcher that lets you hide things in the app tray.
Don't like Touchwiz? I haven't found a ROM that I like either. TouchWiz is not perfect, but neither is AOKP, Omni, CM or many other ROM interfaces.
Yes, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (original Tab) is rooted with a 4.3 ROM. It's the only way to get past ICS. But phones are different. I get a new one about every 6 months or so. I don't worry about what Verizon will do with the N3 in 2015. Most people on XDA are similar, so it's a moot point to argue about lack of support down the road.
I keep watching but there's been no compelling reason for me to root this phone. I want to, yeah, but where's the reward other than the pure joy of rooting? Most respond here with vague things about doing it their way, bloat or all of these apps that make life wonderful. I say show me. And it must be compelling. I want to, I just can't justify it.
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loopers said:
shutting down svoice would be good too....
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Please explain. I have no interaction with S-Voice that I know of. To what are you referring?
loopers said:
if someone knows 100% that it won't trip knox and you can revert back I'd give it a shot... I haven't seen that option yet that is 100% proven and cleared by xda or any other reputable sites......
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I don't think you'll ever see a 100% assurance on that. I've rooted my Note 3 with both Root De La Vega and Kingo, flashed the phone a few times with Odin, installed Beans' rooted stock, and still have 0x0 on my Knox counter, fwiw.
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Well, only if ROMs are available.
I'm with the original poster on this subject. I've rooted and ROMed my phones since forever. But the goal was to change the ROM. Until a ROM is available for the N3 there's no compelling reason to root. Yeah, TiBu is nice to use but Helium is adequate. (I used Helium to move my apps from N2 to N3).
Getting rid of bloatware? That's a political decision, not a practical one. People say that because "they're rebelling against the man." This phone is so ridiculously fast that bloatware does nothing to harm performance. If you don't like seeing it in the app tray then just use a launcher that lets you hide things in the app tray.
Don't like Touchwiz? I haven't found a ROM that I like either. TouchWiz is not perfect, but neither is AOKP, Omni, CM or many other ROM interfaces.
Yes, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (original Tab) is rooted with a 4.3 ROM. It's the only way to get past ICS. But phones are different. I get a new one about every 6 months or so. I don't worry about what Verizon will do with the N3 in 2015. Most people on XDA are similar, so it's a moot point to argue about lack of support down the road.
I keep watching but there's been no compelling reason for me to root this phone. I want to, yeah, but where's the reward other than the pure joy of rooting? Most respond here with vague things about doing it their way, bloat or all of these apps that make life wonderful. I say show me. And it must be compelling. I want to, I just can't justify it.
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Please explain. I have no interaction with S-Voice that I know of. To what are you referring?
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You hit the nail .... S-voice.. I have no interaction with it at all either.. only time is when I use my s4a ear "buds?".... amazing sound with a mic and button.. when i hold the mic down though s-voice pops up and i don't want it too... can't get away from it as it sits (might try a diffferent music player..... not a real problem though.. just a small annoyance
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Well, only if ROMs are available.
I'm with the original poster on this subject. I've rooted and ROMed my phones since forever. But the goal was to change the ROM. Until a ROM is available for the N3 there's no compelling reason to root. Yeah, TiBu is nice to use but Helium is adequate. (I used Helium to move my apps from N2 to N3).
Getting rid of bloatware? That's a political decision, not a practical one. People say that because "they're rebelling against the man." This phone is so ridiculously fast that bloatware does nothing to harm performance. If you don't like seeing it in the app tray then just use a launcher that lets you hide things in the app tray.
Don't like Touchwiz? I haven't found a ROM that I like either. TouchWiz is not perfect, but neither is AOKP, Omni, CM or many other ROM interfaces.
Yes, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (original Tab) is rooted with a 4.3 ROM. It's the only way to get past ICS. But phones are different. I get a new one about every 6 months or so. I don't worry about what Verizon will do with the N3 in 2015. Most people on XDA are similar, so it's a moot point to argue about lack of support down the road.
I keep watching but there's been no compelling reason for me to root this phone. I want to, yeah, but where's the reward other than the pure joy of rooting? Most respond here with vague things about doing it their way, bloat or all of these apps that make life wonderful. I say show me. And it must be compelling. I want to, I just can't justify it.
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Please explain. I have no interaction with S-Voice that I know of. To what are you referring?
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Pfhortune said:
I don't think you'll ever see a 100% assurance on that. I've rooted my Note 3 with both Root De La Vega and Kingo, flashed the phone a few times with Odin, installed Beans' rooted stock, and still have 0x0 on my Knox counter, fwiw.
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good to know.. thanks.. just read a thread where hyperdrive rom is up...... (was my rom of choice for my s3).... definately making a case for rooting now.. but still want that easy root.... the one you mentioned is still too iffy........... and root de la vega... seems intimidating with all the typing...... don't have hours to sit... go through several stops and not make a single boo boo and brick it or trip it....... the other ting.. msg me if u have any type of proof its clean... can't really go into discussion in threads on that.... too many people may read and take that plunge while it is still a bit foreign to the dev base
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I don't think you'll ever see a 100% assurance on that. I've rooted my Note 3 with both Root De La Vega and Kingo, flashed the phone a few times with Odin, installed Beans' rooted stock, and still have 0x0 on my Knox counter, fwiw.
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good to know...... was the K the last one u rooted with.... it seems iffy to this forum.. msg me if you have done any research on that prog and if it indeed worth trying....
Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks
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Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks
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my guess is the whole knox thing kinda turned everyone off to rooting. i agree though, it does suck.
The worst part is that I'm in love with this pen, and don't know if I could give it up, but Damn this sucks having no roms, and not just no roms, but seemingly no one hardly at all interested in ANY kind of dev work hardly....total crap
lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.
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lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.
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I would think it's just one published kernel exploit away. My interpretation of the Knox Warranty piece is it gets flagged when you flash improperly signed files. Finding an exploit that is done while running Android may not set the warranty flag.
I see a lot of threads now are offering money to someone who makes a rom, perhaps those interested could pledge something(including me) which might sway someone to making something...... just a thought
I rooted and don't really give a crap about tripping Knox.
I've made ROMs in the past, but I need the source files. Right now I'm waiting for either Samsung or someone else to publish the files for MK1 and I might do something with that.
custom roms
The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.
Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
Gitbrew has had luck with the PS4, we have a p600 en route.
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The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.
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Ahh. He is promising for this tablet. Maybe we should do a pledge thread and all add a bit of money in and aim towards p600 for obvious reasons. He could preduce something better than me and probably most people in this forum.
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Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.
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Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I have to agree. I have been using android and Winmo devices for a long time including tablets. I have rooted then all and have never had to return one to the manufacturer. I rooted last night (I rooted my Note III the day I got it). SInce I have never had to use a warranty, the benefits of rooting outweighed preserving the warranty. Nothing like being able to use such great apps as Titanium Backup or Ad-away to enhance my experience with my device.
Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.
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C2Q said:
Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.
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^^^ This.
For me, it's not so much that I care about the warranty (the place I bought it from allows holiday returns through 1/31/2014, so I could even trip KNOX and still return it), it's just that there's so little dev activity on this device, including just a stock rooted ROM, that you don't want to trip KNOX or else you're likely not getting KitKat.
The latest 4.3 update for the Note 2 phone brought KNOX to the Note 2. I was running basically stock rooted anyway, but at least there's a little more dev activity on the Note 2 so a KNOX-free stock rooted ROM was released very quickly after the OTA.
swaggerjacker said:
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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This is my policy for everything in my life -- not just dev projects on XDA. I don't pay for something that doesn't yet exist and/or isn't proven/working yet. I also think that if devs buy their own hardware they end up more committed to the particular device rather than putting out one ROM to justify taking the bounty and then moving on to the next device bounty (with no updates, maintenance, fixes, etc.).
tonytownsend said:
Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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sbattosai said:
Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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+1. I paid my pledge happily. I wanted root and nobody else was working on it. The knox thing doesn't concern me at all.
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Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Don't go there man.... He did what he was paid to and that's that. ... bad mouthing him isn't going to get him to come back and make a rom.... honestly I don't blame him for returning it I'm about to I think. .. what the he'll is the point in having top notch hardware when you can't get any dev work happening on it....just retarded
What other tablet is out there though that even comes close in hardware specs but has at least half assed support
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swaggerjacker said:
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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That's not how a pledge works. If you've read about something happening it wasn't done in the proper way. A pledge is when you promise to out forward a certain amount of money when a certain goal is reached. If that goal isn't reached to your satisfaction then you don't send the money. That is that. But better not get caught asking for support on the item in question....
I know it's probably been asked a thousand times, and it's probably a matter of opinion, but I want some input before rooting my note 4. I have rooted every android device I have ever owned, in most cases before they even got warm, but for some reason I'm hesitant With this one, I love it as it is, and I mostly like touchwiz but I put up with its limitations because I like the few perks that the stock launcher provides over an alternative launcher, I really only want to root just for Xposed mods and various root applications, I can't see myself flashing a custom rom anytime soon, unless someone works out how to implement all of the Samsung hardware features. My main concern at the moment I suppose is warranty and OTA update to Lollipop (if that ever happens), I know you can just get the stock rom/image when it's available but I would prefer OTA, at least for the first upgrade to lollipop. can you root but still keep the stock recovery? Can you root without tripping knox? Is there some sort of fuse like there was in the S4 (and I presume the S5,never had one), is it hard to un root?, any other downsides to rooting the note 4?
If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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Thanks Eddster3000, yeah I remember looking into it a fair bit with my S4 and I think it was generally accepted that knox was a hardware fuse, I ended up rooting and updating the bootloader anyway. I was running CM12 on my S4 and loving it, I have always been a fan of Samsung hardware functionality but I stuck with CM12 anyway because it was so good, in this case though I think I'll miss the S pen features and a couple of other things, so I'll probably hold off for a little while I think, if someone came up with dual boot like the patcher for S4 that would probably tip me towards rooting. I have the telstra model, SM-N910G, I don't know how much telstra will interfere with the update process, only time will tell I suppose.
Absolutely. You won't regret it.
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I can't give up on my S-PEN
rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.
zurkx said:
rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.
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And rooting provides 100 times more functionality then you lose. Really, what percentage of people actually can't live without Knox?
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If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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I really like CM roms, allways used them on my other devices.
but dont you miss the s-pen ??
and how is the camera quality on CM12 ?
I know on my S3 it was horrible on cyanogenmod roms becouse they did not have acces to all the samsung drivers
Brava27 said:
Absolutely. You won't regret it.
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Yeah, never have before, this is the first time I have ever had a second thought.
filthydani112 said:
I can't give up on my S-PEN
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That's my main issue, I use it so often, and the air command alone is so darn useful, but I probably won't use a custom rom, just want to customize the stock rom and keep all the cool samsungness.
zurkx said:
rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.
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All good points to consider, I'm not so concerned with all of these points right now though, I just want access, not so much a custom rom, but what do you mean by dual/single personality?
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If you root you WILL trip Knox. I read a discussion about whether Knox is a physical or coded fuse and i think the general thought is that it is physical so once its tripped it xan only be reset by having the mainboard changed.
However lollipop should just be around the corner so you could just wait a few more weeks (purely a guess at release date) and get ota and then root.
There is a stock ROM available which just has root access and no other changes if you want to stay close to stock but want xposed but it depends what model you have.
I believe there is also an xposed module that hides your root that makes ota think that you haven't rooted so you can still get them. I rooted my Note straight away and tried several ROMs and at the moment I'm on CM12 and its fantastic.
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Yeah, never have before, this is the first time I have ever had a second thought.
That's my main issue, I use it so often, and the air command alone is so darn useful, but I probably won't use a custom rom, just want to customize the stock rom and keep all the cool samsungness.
All good points to consider, I'm not so concerned with all of these points right now though, I just want access, not so much a custom rom, but what do you mean by dual/single personality?
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same here man, i really dont know if i should root it or not.. been using the phone 2 months now. and its good.. but you just know it could be better if you root it
Can somebody please tell me what happens to the Picture I have saved in private mode once I root my phone.. Also will I be able to activate private mode again once I unroot?
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All good points to consider, I'm not so concerned with all of these points right now though, I just want access, not so much a custom rom, but what do you mean by dual/single personality?
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dual personality is when you use your phone for business/private banking/buying stuff. knox keeps certain applications hidden from the main system so that even if someone manages to get a virus on your phone your banking information and business emails are safe. they run in a dual personality or second phone behind the first one. for example i have a bunch of email accounts i use for normal personal stuff - which i use the front note 4 personality for and a business email account i use for business stuff in the second personality. its like two phones in one with different apps/accounts/everything.
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Can somebody please tell me what happens to the Picture I have saved in private mode once I root my phone.. Also will I be able to activate private mode again once I unroot?
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It will be lost. Once KONX is tripped, your KNOX container will be automatically erased.
So u mean I permanently lose private mode once I tipped Knox?
dicko101 said:
..... I really only want to root just for Xposed mods....
.... OTA update to Lollipop (if that ever happens)...
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Today Xposed only work with dalvik and when lollipop will come it will work with art
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zurkx said:
rooting impairs a huge amount of functionality.
you lose warranty permanently.
you lose knox permanently.
your dual personality phone is now single personality.
you lose knox apps like knox email which are better than regular samsung email.
you lose policy enforcement.
you lose hidden Gallery and hidden SNote.
you lose knox tracking and knox remote wipe.
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Haha knox is completely useless to everyone.
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Brava27 said:
Haha knox is completely useless to everyone.
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completely useless to you because you have never used it. i spend around 70% of my phone time in knox so its not useless to me.
why even buy a $900 note 4 if youre going to permanently remove half its functionality ? you can get a fake note 4 for $160 and root it instead.
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completely useless to you because you have never used it. i spend around 70% of my phone time in knox so its not useless to me.
why even buy a $900 note 4 if youre going to permanently remove half its functionality ? you can get a fake note 4 for $160 and root it instead.
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Knox is for paranoid users. What does Knox do again? "protect you"? Please
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Brava27 said:
Knox is for paranoid users. What does Knox do again? "protect you"? Please
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it keeps my private stuff private. yes it does protect me against unauthorized use. you may not value privacy but some of us use our phones for work and not as toys.
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it keeps my private stuff private. yes it does protect me against unauthorized use. you may not value privacy but some of us use our phones for work and not as toys.
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Then why are you on xda if you cannot develop anything on your non rooted phone?
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I got my Note 4 Today! I love it already. Once I get my old phone official transferred to a family a member I think I'm going to root her. But first I wnated to know whats the process for rooting? And is it possible to unroot without signs its been rooted in case I need to send it for repairs? Thanks
My advice, start reading a little. I think I have seen your questions answered before?
gravatrax1 said:
I got my Note 4 Today! I love it already. Once I get my old phone official transferred to a family a member I think I'm going to root her. But first I wnated to know whats the process for rooting? And is it possible to unroot without signs its been rooted in case I need to send it for repairs? Thanks
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There are many tutorial here on XDA about rooting, flashing etc.Read carefully and you'll be good to go.Also there is a section for question(Help&Troubleshooting), this is the general forum section, make sure where you post next.
Ah, cut him some slack, he's just excited he got a new phone!
But yes, you should do some reading before you do anything as drastic as modifying system files. There are tutorials and that will guide you through the process and a lot of threads discussing issues such as unrooting and warranty. Good luck!
As of right now, there is no known method to reset value of knox to default once rooted. Hopefully, someone will come up with a to root it without tripping knox or a way to reset the knox to default value. I also recently got my Note 4 and weighing in on whether I should root it or not.
I'm familiar with rooting and it's risks. I've rooted other devices. I just didn't want to dive headfirst into rooting this phone if I was not able to get it back to stock with no evidence of tampering. I have total equipment protection which covers any physical damage to the phone, and its come in handy in the past with devices that hav enot been rooted. I don't eve recall them doing anything at the store to check for modications to the software. Ultimately I plan on just rooting the device nad installing SU to get rid of bloatware and used some Xposed modules, no flashing of custom roms or anything.
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I'm familiar with rooting and it's risks. I've rooted other devices. I just didn't want to dive headfirst into rooting this phone if I was not able to get it back to stock with no evidence of tampering. I have total equipment protection which covers any physical damage to the phone, and its come in handy in the past with devices that hav enot been rooted. I don't eve recall them doing anything at the store to check for modications to the software. Ultimately I plan on just rooting the device nad installing SU to get rid of bloatware and used some Xposed modules, no flashing of custom roms or anything.
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rooting a note 4 is extremely silly. you lose half the functionality including a nice secure app store. and you lose it permanently with no possibility of getting it back along with the warranty.
zurkx said:
rooting a note 4 is extremely silly. you lose half the functionality including a nice secure app store. and you lose it permanently with no possibility of getting it back along with the warranty.
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I've had mine 4 days and rooted it. Just becos....well, cos I always have! Nowhere did I readabout losing functionality app Store, Samsung's l assume?Care to expand on that further?? while I search it?
Gotta say I'm impressed with the note so far- -Spen rocks-- no more keyboard which for me is the best feature, still exploring.. Any hints on using the note 4 to it's fullest capablities would be greatly appreciated.
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you lose the knox secure app store and obviously all the apps like knox email and secure/business versions of common apps as well.
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obviously all the apps like knox email
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and secure/business versions of common apps as well.
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ok, thanks for your reply and heads up-my phone is pure indulgence, not for the business side of things. will keep in mind though, and look into this 'Knox' thing a bit more .
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But you don't lose access to the galaxy apps such as s write s health etc.? If that's so I really don't care. I will probably never even look at this so called Knox app store.
youre going to write off half your phone functionality permanently without even trying it out once ?
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youre going to write off half your phone functionality permanently without even trying it out once ?
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mate it would be really nice. you could explain what this "half the functionality" we are losing, is-Samsung Apps still work,. Google search turned up only one post regarding ''losing functionality" and that was yours?? So I am a bit confused?
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mate it would be really nice. you could explain what this "half the functionality" we are losing, is-Samsung Apps still work,. Google search turned up only one post regarding ''losing functionality" and that was yours?? So I am a bit confused?
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you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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zurkx said:
you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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Off Topic: Is that a 4K screen? Damn that DPI must be pretty low I couldn't read without my glasses
Basically, yes, you lose Knox. Which is something that no app can replace right now. Knox is what iCloud Security is for iPhones. If somebody stoles your phone, you can track it, or delete everything and render it unusable to the thieft. Also, with knox and reactivation lock enabled, no one can root the phone and delete knox as it prevents to flash anything via Odin. It makes your phone really safe, but it's a worth losing.
I've rooted my phone since the first day I bought it. I don't have warranty as I've imported the phone from USA, so Samsung Argentina doesn't cover it. It's totally worth. If you use Kitkat, Xposed is the best addition for your rooted device. If you're in Lollipop, you can always flash custom themes/mods via Recovery. Root (almost) always is a benefit. I recommend you to enjoy your phone as is, and when you're prepared (or bored, whatever you want to call it), go ahead and root it. Congratulations and cheers!
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you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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Thankyou, I've had abitof a read up on Knox, I guess,.if this was a company phone, or I worked in IT then this ' feature would be the' bees knees'. fortunately its purely for pleasure!!
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Off Topic: Is that a 4K screen? Damn that DPI must be pretty low I couldn't read without my glasses
Basically, yes, you lose Knox. Which is something that no app can replace right now. Knox is what iCloud Security is for iPhones. If somebody stoles your phone, you can track it, or delete everything and render it unusable to the thieft. Also, with knox and reactivation lock enabled, no one can root the phone and delete knox as it prevents to flash anything via Odin. It makes your phone really safe, but it's a worth losing.
I've rooted my phone since the first day I bought it. I don't have warranty as I've imported the phone from USA, so Samsung Argentina doesn't cover it. It's totally worth. If you use Kitkat, Xposed is the best addition for your rooted device. If you're in Lollipop, you can always flash custom themes/mods via Recovery. Root (almost) always is a benefit. I recommend you to enjoy your phone as is, and when you're prepared (or bored, whatever you want to call it), go ahead and root it. Congratulations and cheers!
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nice, thanks for the info chap, I'm absolutely loving this thing. Root was done in first few hours, used CF Root and Odin all good.
Hope OP has enough info now to make a decision,
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I can see how Knox would be detrimental to someone in a business or tech related job where security is upmost importance however I am not that person so it's just something that' snot useful to me. I think for the time being I'll just keep the phone as is but eventually I will probably root it. I'm only a few days in and I already miss some of my apps and Xposed modules that I used one my One from when it was rooted.
Personally I wouldn't bother rooting. Losing a warranty isn't worth it considering the minimal benefits of rooting.
You'll soon learn to live without the limited additions that exposed offers, and you'll not miss the performance hit exposed offers the Note 4 which is slow enough already.
There is a thread that suggests alternatives to rooting.
If you're anything like me, you'll be onto another phone soon enough and no one will want to buy a phone with no warranty that someone's been trashing with Root.
Jonathan-H said:
Personally I wouldn't bother rooting. Losing a warranty isn't worth it considering the minimal benefits of rooting.
You'll soon learn to live without the limited additions that exposed offers, and you'll not miss the performance hit exposed offers the Note 4 which is slow enough already.
There is a thread that suggests alternatives to rooting.
If you're anything like me, you'll be onto another phone soon enough and no one will want to buy a phone with no warranty that someone's been trashing with Root.
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Not me I wen the Sprint easy pay route. I'll have this phone for the next two years. I think I'll wait till OTA of Lollipop comes out then wait for a stable root and do it then.
From what I gather Samsung pay over here is identical to Android pay.
I use Android pay daily.
Magisk can help with this
I'm wanting the camera mod and youtube ads away as the main bits.
Let me know
sutty86 said:
From what I gather Samsung pay over here is identical to Android pay.
I use Android pay daily.
Magisk can help with this
I'm wanting the camera mod and youtube ads away as the main bits.
Let me know
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If you don't care about tripping knox, go ahead. Otherwise don't do it.
Just hoping to find out it doesn't bugger anything else up
sutty86 said:
From what I gather Samsung pay over here is identical to Android pay.
I use Android pay daily.
Magisk can help with this
I'm wanting the camera mod and youtube ads away as the main bits.
Let me know
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I would say jump the gun and go root the phone. I dont know if the UK version is rootable myself but if it's possible, do it. You can have any other alternatives outside of samsung apps.
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Just hoping to find out it doesn't bugger anything else up
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UK user here
do it, like all my other samsung phones the first thing i do when i unbox it is flash a custom rom
the only thing it will bugger up is Knox so stuff like secure folder, samsung pass, samsung pay etc wont work and of course your samsung warranty will be voided.
They were way too late with samsung Pay in the UK for me to wait especially when Android Pay is already out and easily handled with magisk ( i use it daily )
Enjoy
For the camera mod alone I wouldn't. It's irreversible. How important YouTube adaway is to you is your decision. I don't watch videos on my phone so...
Again, you can always root if something you really need comes along. But you can never go back. So if you're asking the question I'm inclined to say no.
Be aware if you are on Vodafone and have insurance rooting will invalidate any claims you make.i have rooted every phone I have owned
.........except my s8. I love her to much to invalidate her warranty by tripping Knox lol
Phone bought 2nd hand
So can't really take out insurance .
I think root is a no no and XDA should be removed from cyberspace or something.
Now seriously... If you want an honest answer this is not the place to ask. What answer you expect on XDA except "go for it"? Of course any XDA user would tell you to root your phone. At the end of the day that's why we are here (on XDA). Because we want to break the "OEMs chains". And first step to do that is rooting.
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I think root is a no no and XDA should be removed from cyberspace or something.
Now seriously... If you want an honest answer this is not the place to ask. What answer you expect on XDA except "go for it"? Of course any XDA user would tell you to root your phone. At the end of the day that's why we are here (on XDA). Because we want to break the "OEMs chains". And first step to do that is rooting.
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It depends. I've been on xda for years, and advised against rooting. I too root all my phones to get rid of not needed apps and backups. But to be honest, the value for root on the S8 just isn't there atm. No aosp, xposed is irrelevant... As said, only root if there is a specific thing you need, not just because.
Also, even with Samsungs software I don't feel the need for flashing roms anymore like back in the 4.x and back days. Between Nova launcher, substratum and the scaled back styling of Samsungs stock Rom, aosp becomes less and less needed...