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No Kitkat update yet

I have Nexus 10 running stock Android Jelly Bean 4.3, I haven't rooted it, however I still haven't got the official kitkat 4.4 update yet even after 4 days. I don't want to root and site load it. Any ideas why I'm not seeing it yet? Anyone else facing the same issue?
Appreciate your comments/suggestions. Thanks...

It's Google. They roll it out quite slowly so they can also get feedback on the update. If there's anything wrong they can stop the update and only a small portion of users will have the problem instead of everyone.
You don't need to root or have an unlocked bootloader to sideload the OTA zip file.

a103 said:
I have Nexus 10 running stock Android Jelly Bean 4.3, I haven't rooted it, however I still haven't got the official kitkat 4.4 update yet even after 4 days. I don't want to root and site load it. Any ideas why I'm not seeing it yet? Anyone else facing the same issue?
Appreciate your comments/suggestions. Thanks...
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don't bother with kitkat it really doesn't add anything the normal person needs, I flashed it on my nexus 10, and reverted back to 4.3 in a heartbeat... countless apps are unstable and not optimized for 4.4 including very popular ones, it has a disappointing single screen settings ui, white color is boring, boot animation is ugly, swiping down quicksettings seemed a bit choppy.. I'm sure there are other things. so my advice is not to bother with this marketing stunt called kitkat, it seems like all they care about is selling chocolates and making money, the end users needs and preferences are not part of the equation.

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don't bother with kitkat it really doesn't add anything the normal person needs, I flashed it on my nexus 10, and reverted back to 4.3 in a heartbeat... countless apps are unstable and not optimized for 4.4 including very popular ones, it has a disappointing single screen settings ui, white color is boring, boot animation is ugly, swiping down quicksettings seemed a bit choppy.. I'm sure there are other things. so my advice is not to bother with this marketing stunt called kitkat, it seems like all they care about is selling chocolates and making money, the end users needs and preferences are not part of the equation.
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I agree that it has added nothing IMHO to my Nexus 10, I don't like the white icons but can't change them. I was very lucky as it dropped on my my N10 very early on the day of release. Sky Go app not working right and a few other apps as awyeahh1 has said

[Q] Nexus 7 2012 performance in kitkat

Hi ,
How is the overall performance of nexus 7 2012 after the kitkat update , kindly provide the pros and cons after the update.this could help me decide whether i should go for 2012 model or 2013 model.

If you are trying to decide between new and old, obviously go for the 2013, CPU is faster as well as more RAM. ART is also available on the new one.
As for issues, I don't have any with my 2012 so far on KRT16S. Adobe Flash no longer works because of chromium engine so if thats a big thing for you, may want to stay with 4.3

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If you are trying to decide between new and old, obviously go for the 2013, CPU is faster as well as more RAM. ART is also available on the new one.
As for issues, I don't have any with my 2012 so far on KRT16S. Adobe Flash no longer works because of chromium engine so if thats a big thing for you, may want to stay with 4.3
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Well the old one is cheaper though.. By quite a bit actually.
So does that mean flash won't even work with other browsers?
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Unless you don't have enough cash for 2013, go for 2012, it's still a great device and I never leave home without it, but 2013 is not really all that expensive, so the choice is clear.
Pros:
- it is smooth (but I factory reset it to install kitkat, so I don't know how it would've been if I just updated from previous version), but it was like this for every version
- transparent task and nav bars (with GEL or nova launcher, only on launcher though)
- clock font is the same again (in 4.2 the hours were bold while minutes were normal - I liked it this way more though)
- there's a new icon if you pull down notification bar on the right side
- battery life is good, but it's always been good
Cons:
- OTA rootkeeper doesn't work anymore, you have to manually re-root it every time
- 4.4 is pretty much the same as ICS except with slightly different icons and colors.
- lots of services still don't work outside US and couple of extra countries (play magazines, play movies...)
I don't know, it's android, it does everything, but starts to lag after a while and batteries die and such, I like my Nexus 7 2012 very much, if it broke (knock knock on the table, don't break!) I'd get a 2013 one, not 2012.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmhpivfu725it3v/Screenshot_2013-11-22-10-56-05.png

Obviously ours is cheaper but if it was me I'd rather spend the extra and have the newer hardware.. not to mention 2012 is creeping up on that 18 month EOL Galaxy Nexus just dealt with, the newer one will still be getting updates.
As for Flash its dead except for Puffin which apparently runs slow ppl talking about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531015

Depends what funds you have available. I don't leave home without it and wouldn't swap it. Been working on KitKat for a while and no major issues and a lot less "lag" on 4.4 than on 4.3 :good:

Nope, OTA suvival works!

I was running a custom rom for 4.3 and 4.2.2 that was heavily optimized for this device by experienced developers on this forum. And the roms were SO MUCH smoother and faster than stock rom google provided. Now that 4.4 is available, I'm just trying out the stock rom by google, and man..I don't like the performance. There are quite often stuttering moments, and I am eagerly waiting for a stable custom rom based on 4.4. I'm pretty sure 2013 version, you don't really need to have a custom rom to make it super smooth, because I have the nexus 4, very similar hardware as 2013 nexus 7, and my nexus 4 runs very smoothly with google's official 4.4 firmware.
Hope it helps.

Well... it was with a heavy heart, that this afternoon, I took the decision to downgrade my Nexus 7 from KitKat 4.4 back to Jellybean 4.3.
Too many issues that I feel are wrong with KitKat... the lack of visual clarity on the WiFi icon, and particularly with the battery icon when the device is recharging.
But the real deal breaker for me is that KitKat 'breaks' the AOSP browser.
Although there is an AOSP KitKat compliant browser available that will run on the first generation Nexus 7, it's tied to Chromium WebView (instead of WebKit), and functionally, it's essentially identical to Chrome. And like Chrome, it lacks the speed of AOSP... further, it also lacks the one single critical feature that I believe any web browser needs to have in order to provide a satisfying browsing experience on any mobile device - and that feature is text-flow. What is the point in having pinch'n'zoom capabilty on any device, if the text doesn't reflow and reformat itself? So much effort using Chrome, panning right, left and then right again... just to read something!
Of course, it could be argued, that there are many third party web browsers on Google PlayStore that provide this functionality... and some do indeed make a pretty good stab at it. Opera Classic for example... Maxthon is another... but all too often, these browsers lack the lightening fast speed of the AOSP browser... maybe because they are encumbered with lots of useless (to me, anyway) features.
For reasons which utterly escape me, Google have been 'pushing' Chrome for Android as though it was the last word in Android browsers - IMHO, it simply isn't. There are far better browsers available on Playstore... but not a single one comes even close to the experience afforded by the AOSP browser.
All of which would be tolerable, if KitKat didn't force AOSP based browsers down the Chromium WebView path... so for me, Android 4.4 KitKat has essentially ruined my browsing experience - and for this reason, I spent the afternoon fastboot flashing my Nexus 7 back to Jellybean 4.3, and then restoring my apps via Titanium... a real time consuming nuisance, but if I wished to continue to use my Nexus 7, predominantly for web browsing, it had to be done.
I'm now back on build JWR66Y, reinstalled the AOSP browser, and everything just works... the way it should... and the way it used to... before KitKat.
Rgrds,
Ged.

The Kit Kat update was so buggy that it drove me away. I went out and bought a dell venue 8 pro today. The tablet was only 279 and has full blown windows 8.1 AND I don't have to hack it in order use flash sites.

Ota was very smooth ,and so far on my n7 2012 its running fab , no delay , only a few odd games don't work ,but its very nice so far
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Upgraded from android 4.3 stock ROM with custom
Kernel,M-kernel, to android 4.4 stock ROM(KRT16s)
to find out exciting new features on KitKat.
The performance of stock KitKat is good for
a stock ROM but not great. The optimized 4.3 ROM
with M-kernel is faster and smooth without over clocking the CPU. The battery life last longer .
KitKat ROM has many new features that worth the
upgrade from android 4.3.
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GedBlake said:
Although there is an AOSP KitKat compliant browser available that will run on the first generation Nexus 7, it's tied to Chromium WebView (instead of WebKit), and functionally, it's essentially identical to Chrome. And like Chrome, it lacks the speed of AOSP... further, it also lacks the one single critical feature that I believe any web browser needs to have in order to provide a satisfying browsing experience on any mobile device - and that feature is text-flow. What is the point in having pinch'n'zoom capabilty on any device, if the text doesn't reflow and reformat itself? So much effort using Chrome, panning right, left and then right again... just to read something!
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Oof. I was afraid of this (I use Naked Browser Pro). Thanks for confirming the worst. Had similar feelings about Chromium-based Opera (nowhere near as fast as old WebView).
An awful lot of browsers rely on WebView, which makes me think this was a clear move to make all of them suck as badly as Chrome. Not that Google was under any obligation to help their competition, but it's still a crap move.
I do wonder if anyone will take the effort to fill the now difficult speedy browser niche on KitKat. You'd have to either:
1.) Port old WebView
2.) Fork, fix, and optimize Chromium (if that's even possible), or
3.) Use an entirely different engine (possibly your own).
None of these options are great, dev-wise ... and unless we're talking about Naked Browser, any new option is almost guaranteed to come with privacy issues (ads, trackers, etc.)
Given that WebView is part of the ROM, I wonder if OmniROM would be interested in eventually fixing this.
-XCN-

Kit Kat performance is exactly the same as 4.3, no better or worse. It's OK but gets laggy at times. By no means would I consider the 2012 model quick at this point and you should definitely get the 2013 model.
Overall I consider the first gen nexus 7 a big disappointment in performances especially considering the initial launch video Matias Duarte is calling it "a lag free device". Yeah it is...out of the box, and after full storage and system wipe. Over time it gets so annoyingly laggy you wanna chuck it against a wall! The more storage you use the worse it gets and don't even think about adding a second profile. That's an immediate lag bomb!
Also build quality is very suspect, the screen lift/creaking issue seems to be a matter of when not if. I thought I had dodged a bullet with mine until 3 days after my warranty expired. The left side creaks like crazy, and I cracked the back cover removing it to perform several of the home !made remedies. All worked for a day or 2 then the creaking would come back! I eventually gave up and stopped caring.
I don't really feel too ripped off from buying it. Nearly a year and a half of use and 3 major system updates as well as countless minor system updates feel like I got my moneys worth. But tegra 3 isn't getting any younger and getting more and more dated by the day. Also Google proved with the gnex they are pretty cut throat with their 18 months of support policy so KitKat is most likely the end of the road for the 2012 model. Do yourself a favor and get the new one! You won't regret it
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You have to be insane to get the 2012 model. Mine is showing definite age and I have barely had it a year. I think there are read write problems with the 2012 hardware that makes it laggy over time.
Get 2013 model but know that it will probably be beat up and slow a year from now. I'd say the life cycle is about a year.
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mtva24 said:
The Kit Kat update was so buggy that it drove me away. I went out and bought a dell venue 8 pro today. The tablet was only 279 and has full blown windows 8.1 AND I don't have to hack it in order use flash sites.
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Seriously thinking out getting one of those too.

jadesse said:
Seriously thinking out getting one of those too.
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You won't regret it!

Hey guys!! I update to 4.4 me too, but Does your battery drain faster than 4.3 or it s only mine ? Before the battery was easily 8 or 9 hours daily.. With a basically use, now with exactly the same.. not going more Than 6 hours ..
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elfacki20 said:
Hey guys!! I update to 4.4 me too, but Does your battery drain faster than 4.3 or it s only mine ? Before the battery was easily 8 or 9 hours daily.. With a basically use, now with exactly the same.. not going more Than 6 hours ..
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The battery has not been too bad for me. There may have been a slight decrease, but I find this is common with some updates. Are you on the latest KitKat build or the first one?

ryebread761 said:
The battery has not been too bad for me. There may have been a slight decrease, but I find this is common with some updates. Are you on the latest KitKat build or the first one?
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The Latest.. It is possible that the reason is the root? I dit it 3days ago after the update(ROM) and I forgot to install the recovery tool .. So This morning I re-root the nexus with rectool and now for 1hour use, I lost only 5% so I don't really understand what's going on ..
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5.0 OTA on 2012 N7

have people began getting the OTA pushed to their Nexus 7 2012's? I am still on kitkat and haven't done a single thing to the tablet. It's bone stock.

chrisosaur said:
have people began getting the OTA pushed to their Nexus 7 2012's? I am still on kitkat and haven't done a single thing to the tablet. It's bone stock.
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You might actually consider this as a blessing. My wife's tablet got the Lollipop OTA and it is laggy beyond belief, even after clearing cache, using Nova launcher, etc. (everything but a factory reset at this point...). She is so frustrated with it, she's considered
My mother in law's N7 hasn't gotten the OTA yet. I almost wonder if they are holding off on pushing it more until they get the 5.0.1 OTA ready for this device in case it fixes some of the issues people are having. But thats completely speculation on my part.
Alternatively, if you REALLY want to get on lollipop, you could sideload the OTA update. It isn't too difficult. Android Central has a pretty good tutorial covering how to do it: http://www.androidcentral.com/how-manually-upgrade-your-nexus. You'll want to follow the "Flashing an OTA update image" section. Alternatively, you could use WUGs toolkit which makes it pretty much as easy as pushing a few buttons.
Thanks,
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I have not. I also wonder if they stop pushing the update to n7 2012.

I'll be honest, you're better off not getting the 5.0 update. I've done a lot of different things (dirty flash, wiping literally 100%, factory resets, etc), and Lollipop on my 2012 Wifi N7 just feels slow and laggy. There are times when I felt like I had figured it out, only for it to get laggy again after a day or so.
So I wouldn't be in a hurry, especially if it's working just fine.

I too really regret up updating to 5.0. I would say that my tablet is unusable but it is damn near. Within the last couple of days random reboots have started & this is with my tablet just sitting idle. Know the one thing that I have never liked about Adroid since day one is the inability to close apps without forcing them closed but that is neither here nor there. I think 5.0 has a few flaws & it doesn't necessarily play nice with some apps.
My N7 is stock & I didn't wipe it before updating because I would loose a bunch of stuff if I did. I also have a Asus TF101 which is root & I flashed 5.0 on it & just load a few of my standard apps. The difference in the two tablets is quite noticeable. The older TF101 is much zippier than the N7. Now I am not going to say that is because it was a fresh install. There are also all kinds of people complaining even after doing a fresh install of 5.0 that their N7 is slow.
If I could go back to KK without having to wipe my tablet I would in a heartbeat. I don't think that 5.01 from what I have read is going to fix anything.

I updated to 5.0.0 on my Nexus 10 and had issues so I went back to 4.4.4 Waited till 5.0.1 came out and updated. Now its running fine. I'm waiting for 5.0.1 for my Nexus 7 before updating.
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XT1095 (Pure Edition) future updates

Supposedly the Pure Edition of the Moto X gets the updates earlier, and we're seeing other versions of the Moto X gets 5.0.2 and we're still in 5.0. Does anybody have some news on a new update? A soak test of 5.1 would be awesome now.
I started this thread because there's no other thread of this particular situation.
Sorry for my english.

I'm still on 4.4.4 be patient

I'm also on 5.0 isnt 5.1 already out?

I think that they are waiting for 5.1 release as it will come in March.

-iNSiGhT- said:
I think that they are waiting for 5.1 release as it will come in March.
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I hope so! Maybe we can use this thread to comment this!

I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.

GTCC said:
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.
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I like the new icons, but the RAM management it's getting kind of annoying.

GTCC said:
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.
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Just go disable Motorola OTA under settings
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GTCC said:
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
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Just force stop Moto OTA in apps. Gets rid of that notification until you reboot the device.
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The RAM management it's getting kind of annoying.
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I agree. That and the horrible battery life associated with the way Lollipop currently is.

Uhhhhh, problems with 5.0? I don't get it. I've been running 5.0 since I got this thing, 2 weeks now, and its been amazing. Coming from a 2013 X, this thing flies. No ram issues that I have seen. Battery life, same as 2013 X for me, actually a little better with over 10hrs on Bluetooth headset. But then I was running Xposed so that might have caused some issues with my Old X.

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Uhhhhh, problems with 5.0? I don't get it. I've been running 5.0 since I got this thing, 2 weeks now, and its been amazing. Coming from a 2013 X, this thing flies. No ram issues that I have seen. Battery life, same as 2013 X for me, actually a little better with over 10hrs on Bluetooth headset. But then I was running Xposed so that might have caused some issues with my Old X.
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The battery life could be better. The RAM management causes that some apps -like the launcher- keeps closing while you're using other apps.

The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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Moto X 2014 & Lollipop 5.0
95Z28 said:
The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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I agree with you, Battery life is ok and memory management also is ok, I also used my phone with Lollipop directly.
Battery performance was enhanced after checking which apps caused high battery drain and disabled it.

M3drvr said:
Just force stop Moto OTA in apps. Gets rid of that notification until you reboot the device.
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Thanks for the tip, I don't reboot my phone very often so it is perfect for me.
Next thing for me is to unlock the bootloader and root for exposed, really liking this phone more every day although I have had it less than a week yet.

The first update released was 5.0 for pure edition. Then Motorola's developers went to work on bringing the update to other variants, and by that time 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 came out. Now that they're working on the xt1095 again, they'll be pushing the 5.1 update.
Basically, they're not going to halt all progress on bringing other updates just to keep pure edition on the cutting edge. It got the first spot on line, but once they finalized its 5.0 release it had to wait for its next turn in line. Also, it doesn't make sense to release a 5.0 update for the others when 5.0.1 exists just to make pure edition owners feel special about being the most up to date.
Full disclosure: I have the pure edition.

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The first update released was 5.0 for pure edition. Then Motorola's developers went to work on bringing the update to other variants, and by that time 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 came out. Now that they're working on the xt1095 again, they'll be pushing the 5.1 update.
Basically, they're not going to halt all progress on bringing other updates just to keep pure edition on the cutting edge. It got the first spot on line, but once they finalized its 5.0 release it had to wait for its next turn in line. Also, it doesn't make sense to release a 5.0 update for the others when 5.0.1 exists just to make pure edition owners feel special about being the most up to date.
Full disclosure: I have the pure edition.
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What's the source of that info?

95Z28 said:
The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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RAM issue is a major problem! This phone won't allow you to drop below 450MB free of RAM i've noticed since going to lollipop. Quite an issue causing constant reloading of apps. the opposite really of whats supposed to happen with android. Its really making the CPU work a lot harder more often to completely reopen apps. With KitKat, never had this issue. Everything stayed in RAM and used no where near this amount actually, i typically had 750-800 free., but even if i dropped to 200 free it wasn't exiting apps and causing everything to reload. And its not like i've installed any new apps since.
Lets not even get me started on battery life as thats horrendous since going to lollipop.

GTCC said:
Thanks for the tip, I don't reboot my phone very often so it is perfect for me.
Next thing for me is to unlock the bootloader and root for exposed, really liking this phone more every day although I have had it less than a week yet.
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Just a heads up, when you unlock the bootloader it will wipe your phone, so backup whatever you can before doing it.
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Link_proxXP said:
What's the source of that info?
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I mean, I don't have a source, I figured that's what makes sense. It would be unreasonable to expect Motorola to not update ANYTHING until the Pure Edition is up to date, and it also doesn't make sense for them to push an update that's outdated on release.
Motorola promised "fast" updates for the Pure Edition but it's not the only job their developers have. It was indeed the first they updated, but they also have to update the rest of their lineup, and they can't leave everyone on KitKat while continuing to give exclusive updates to the xt1095.

Considering how small of changes they'd have to do for all the other devices, I really don't think it's unreasonable to expect the pure edition to always get the updates first though and then the others. Really, you can install the pure editions software on other devices without issues other than the radio.

The SHIELD Tablet's Android 5.1 OTA Is Coming 'Soon'

According to the attached article, we should be seeing 5.1 sometime soon.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-portable-will-jump-straight-from-4-4-to-5-1/

i'll wait for other people to try it
didn't like the 5.0 update nor the interface changes it came with

Lollipop is awesome.... just on the Shield Tablet it's executed rather poorly.
I would really love to see nVidia getting it right with 5.1

Cool, we've need an update badly.

I hope its soon
I actually busted out my 2012 nexus 7 2 weeks ago wiped it and have been using it for day to day work use. Its at least 2 times faster for general use and i dont have to scream at it every 5 minutes when chrome crashes. Not to mention i have facebook installed on it something i haven't had on my tablet in months. I now leave the shield hooked up to the tv to use for games because it still plays games like a champ and gamestream is a daily used thing but i tell you what its a little disappointing when your holding the fastest tablet on the market and one that's 3 years old whips its ass.. Im sure Nvidia is fixing this as i type because they are putting alot on the line with this android gaming stuff and i cant see them letting this get any worse than it has. If its not fixed by the time the console comes out im getting rid of it and just gonna grab that since its all I can use it for anyway as it stands.

No xposed on 5.1

Honestly I think the shield has been garbo since I bought it. Spent an entire months pay on it, and it's been do do since day one. I have a virgin mobile desire phone that's more stable. I think we won't really see anything worth a **** until these devs finally get the nvidia apps to work on cm and then a loooong time to see optimized roms like older Nexus devices. My old Galaxy Nexus whips my shield on day to day bs. I can run it on powersave and it barely lags. I have my shield overclocked and I still have hangs and stutters? Shenanigans! As for xposed, lp xposed is still so buggy I have to reboot like 4 times if I want a clean reboot, all I have is gravitybox. May have better luck going back to kitkat and saying screw it for another year until the devs can make this device purr for real.

My shield tab runs decent the few times i have time to pick it up. Agreed that fkr the price and specs it should run much better but mine does not crash even with exposed and several modules. Its just slooow some times
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I don't get all the hate. I am running lollipop with xposed and have everything running. The current update we have has fixed many of my problems and chrome does not crash on me. I actually use it as a daily driver and am happy with it.

If this 5.1 update is as good as it was for my nexus 5 every minute counts.
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BlackDave said:
I don't get all the hate. I am running lollipop with xposed and have everything running. The current update we have has fixed many of my problems and chrome does not crash on me. I actually use it as a daily driver and am happy with it.
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I think mine sensed that I was getting up set with it and has finally started to act like a normal tablet. It does lag occasionally but not enough to really be a bother. It's still stock with locked bootloader and no root.

I still have issues with it. I use as my daily driver(well try to) and I still get it working just fine 50 percent of the time with it being a little bit jittery. At times it is just unusable where it just locks up and I revert back to my HP Touchpad as sad as it sounds. I got this thinking it would be a massive step forward and in all actuality my Z1 provides the most stability and a heavily customized ROM.
Realistically I have not given up on it, just frustration is mounting on something I have had a little over a month. It really makes me wish I had waited until they announced an X1 based device.

eurominican said:
No xposed on 5.1
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Running xposed framework right now on my 5.1.1 N5 with no problems. You won't be able to use EVERY module but that is up to the developers of the modules themselves not the actual framework. Check out the link below if you haven't already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979

Looking forward to the update, although someone mentioned there's no xposed for 5.1.
That would be a deal breaker for now...

fusedotcore said:
Looking forward to the update, although someone mentioned there's no xposed for 5.1.
That would be a deal breaker for now...
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Look one post above yours.?

It has been now over 2 weeks since the announcement. I am not complaining, however I would like to know if there will be a release date, or a time frame for us to look forward to.
edit: So I have taken a look on the geforce forum for the tablet and I have found that it is slated for a release this month. A release date will be announced soon, please see the attached link.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/827140/shield-tablet/performance-issues-post-ota-2-0/6/

Thanks for sharing! Can't wait for 5.1 stock!

Pariahnoble said:
Honestly I think the shield has been garbo since I bought it. Spent an entire months pay on it, and it's been do do since day one. I have a virgin mobile desire phone that's more stable. I think we won't really see anything worth a **** until these devs finally get the nvidia apps to work on cm and then a loooong time to see optimized roms like older Nexus devices. My old Galaxy Nexus whips my shield on day to day bs. I can run it on powersave and it barely lags. I have my shield overclocked and I still have hangs and stutters? Shenanigans! As for xposed, lp xposed is still so buggy I have to reboot like 4 times if I want a clean reboot, all I have is gravitybox. May have better luck going back to kitkat and saying screw it for another year until the devs can make this device purr for real.
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Try the app by jrummy called, memory manager. Set the top slider (foreground apps "200mb") ahead of the rest and you will be shocked how well you tablet works. I also suggest going back to Kit Kat. You won't miss anything and it will finally just WORK.