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So I like many of you have been jonesing for some sweet lollipop action. It's frustrating to have a top end device and to have to wait. But for those of you who have not had the opportunity to play with lollipop let me just tell you, it ain't ready for prime time. I was excited to get it on my nvidia shield tablet, and in the end unlocked the bootloader and went backt to 4.2 because it was so buggy. I know the user experience varies some from device to device, and the new features are cool. But it will be much better to get our droids updated with a solid release, esp. since we won't have the option to turn back the clock with our locked boot loaders. I know it's not what most want to hear, but It's made me a lot more patient with regards to our Turbos getting updated.
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So I like many of you have been jonesing for some sweet lollipop action. It's frustrating to have a top end device and to have to wait. But for those of you who have not had the opportunity to play with lollipop let me just tell you, it ain't ready for prime time. I was excited to get it on my nvidia shield tablet, and in the end unlocked the bootloader and went backt to 4.2 because it was so buggy. I know the user experience varies some from device to device, and the new features are cool. But it will be much better to get our droids updated with a solid release, esp. since we won't have the option to turn back the clock with our locked boot loaders. I know it's not what most want to hear, but It's made me a lot more patient with regards to our Turbos getting updated.
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I keep seeing people saying things like this. I came from a nexus 5 with lollipop and never had any issues. 5.0 is a stable release. What was "buggy" for you?
For the nvidia shield, it just dogged down the tablet. Chrome froze often in browsing situations, FB had a major memory leak problem, and as a whole the tablet just slowed down and began to hang frequently. I factory reset after the OTA and was running totally stock and it down graded the user experience significantly. Many others reported very similar experiences on that device. I just read today they've released a 5.0.1 update, so I'm definately going to watch that closely because lollipop is definately cool. Esp. the smart lock, screen pinning, and new material design look. But it is all pretty useless if it dogs your hardware. I'm sure they will get it fixed, but all I'm saying is I'd rather have it running right on the turbo, than running like it was on the nvidia shield, esp. since our turbos are locked down and their is no way going back.
Nvidia shield has an Nvidia processor, this is the problem
I put lolliop on my nexus 7(2012) and i was amazed at the improvrment. Seemed like it freed up memory and it was buttery snooth. My only complant would be the white backgrounds and keyboards. Haven't seen it on phone yet. Can't wait
I also saw a lot of bugs on both a moto g 2014 and the nexus 6. There are always people who do not have the same experiences, but for me it was nowhere near what I consider stable.
Still no issues on the 2013 nexus 7 or 1st gen moto g. I also don't see the point of these "keep calm" threads. It's about as useful as the "unlock our bootloader" threads
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Nvidia shield has an Nvidia processor, this is the problem
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I have the Shield Tablet and see the lollipop upgrade as awesome. It is the fastest tablet available besides the Nexus 9 in some cases. Lollipop is definite improvement over KitKat in every way.
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djbling said:
I put lolliop on my nexus 7(2012) and i was amazed at the improvrment. Seemed like it freed up memory and it was buttery snooth. My only complant would be the white backgrounds and keyboards. Haven't seen it on phone yet. Can't wait
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wut? I have a 2012 nexus 7 (grouper) and lollipop made it ridiculously slow. That and the fact that the ota update broke root pushed me to try cm11.
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wut? I have a 2012 nexus 7 (grouper) and lollipop made it ridiculously slow. That and the fact that the ota update broke root pushed me to try cm11.
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5.0 was really slow, now 5.0.2 has fixed that and its better than kitkat for me.
5.0...0.1 and 0.2 were all smooth on my Nexus 7 (2013LTE) No issues so far. Occasional bootloop with am unstable CM build..but stock 5.0 no issues. Smooth as silk.. Better battery life for me as well..Very happy indeed..
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wut? I have a 2012 nexus 7 (grouper) and lollipop made it ridiculously slow. That and the fact that the ota update broke root pushed me to try cm11.
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Garbage NAND, a known issue slightly patched. That was the curse of the 2012 N7.
OTAs always break root. You shoul have known. Reroot it, its not a big deal.
Supposedly the Pure Edition of the Moto X gets the updates earlier, and we're seeing other versions of the Moto X gets 5.0.2 and we're still in 5.0. Does anybody have some news on a new update? A soak test of 5.1 would be awesome now.
I started this thread because there's no other thread of this particular situation.
Sorry for my english.
I'm still on 4.4.4 be patient
I'm also on 5.0 isnt 5.1 already out?
I think that they are waiting for 5.1 release as it will come in March.
-iNSiGhT- said:
I think that they are waiting for 5.1 release as it will come in March.
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I hope so! Maybe we can use this thread to comment this!
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.
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I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.
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I like the new icons, but the RAM management it's getting kind of annoying.
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I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.
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Just go disable Motorola OTA under settings
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GTCC said:
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
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Just force stop Moto OTA in apps. Gets rid of that notification until you reboot the device.
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The RAM management it's getting kind of annoying.
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I agree. That and the horrible battery life associated with the way Lollipop currently is.
Uhhhhh, problems with 5.0? I don't get it. I've been running 5.0 since I got this thing, 2 weeks now, and its been amazing. Coming from a 2013 X, this thing flies. No ram issues that I have seen. Battery life, same as 2013 X for me, actually a little better with over 10hrs on Bluetooth headset. But then I was running Xposed so that might have caused some issues with my Old X.
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Uhhhhh, problems with 5.0? I don't get it. I've been running 5.0 since I got this thing, 2 weeks now, and its been amazing. Coming from a 2013 X, this thing flies. No ram issues that I have seen. Battery life, same as 2013 X for me, actually a little better with over 10hrs on Bluetooth headset. But then I was running Xposed so that might have caused some issues with my Old X.
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The battery life could be better. The RAM management causes that some apps -like the launcher- keeps closing while you're using other apps.
The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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I agree with you, Battery life is ok and memory management also is ok, I also used my phone with Lollipop directly.
Battery performance was enhanced after checking which apps caused high battery drain and disabled it.
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Just force stop Moto OTA in apps. Gets rid of that notification until you reboot the device.
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Thanks for the tip, I don't reboot my phone very often so it is perfect for me.
Next thing for me is to unlock the bootloader and root for exposed, really liking this phone more every day although I have had it less than a week yet.
The first update released was 5.0 for pure edition. Then Motorola's developers went to work on bringing the update to other variants, and by that time 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 came out. Now that they're working on the xt1095 again, they'll be pushing the 5.1 update.
Basically, they're not going to halt all progress on bringing other updates just to keep pure edition on the cutting edge. It got the first spot on line, but once they finalized its 5.0 release it had to wait for its next turn in line. Also, it doesn't make sense to release a 5.0 update for the others when 5.0.1 exists just to make pure edition owners feel special about being the most up to date.
Full disclosure: I have the pure edition.
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The first update released was 5.0 for pure edition. Then Motorola's developers went to work on bringing the update to other variants, and by that time 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 came out. Now that they're working on the xt1095 again, they'll be pushing the 5.1 update.
Basically, they're not going to halt all progress on bringing other updates just to keep pure edition on the cutting edge. It got the first spot on line, but once they finalized its 5.0 release it had to wait for its next turn in line. Also, it doesn't make sense to release a 5.0 update for the others when 5.0.1 exists just to make pure edition owners feel special about being the most up to date.
Full disclosure: I have the pure edition.
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What's the source of that info?
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The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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RAM issue is a major problem! This phone won't allow you to drop below 450MB free of RAM i've noticed since going to lollipop. Quite an issue causing constant reloading of apps. the opposite really of whats supposed to happen with android. Its really making the CPU work a lot harder more often to completely reopen apps. With KitKat, never had this issue. Everything stayed in RAM and used no where near this amount actually, i typically had 750-800 free., but even if i dropped to 200 free it wasn't exiting apps and causing everything to reload. And its not like i've installed any new apps since.
Lets not even get me started on battery life as thats horrendous since going to lollipop.
GTCC said:
Thanks for the tip, I don't reboot my phone very often so it is perfect for me.
Next thing for me is to unlock the bootloader and root for exposed, really liking this phone more every day although I have had it less than a week yet.
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Just a heads up, when you unlock the bootloader it will wipe your phone, so backup whatever you can before doing it.
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Link_proxXP said:
What's the source of that info?
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I mean, I don't have a source, I figured that's what makes sense. It would be unreasonable to expect Motorola to not update ANYTHING until the Pure Edition is up to date, and it also doesn't make sense for them to push an update that's outdated on release.
Motorola promised "fast" updates for the Pure Edition but it's not the only job their developers have. It was indeed the first they updated, but they also have to update the rest of their lineup, and they can't leave everyone on KitKat while continuing to give exclusive updates to the xt1095.
Considering how small of changes they'd have to do for all the other devices, I really don't think it's unreasonable to expect the pure edition to always get the updates first though and then the others. Really, you can install the pure editions software on other devices without issues other than the radio.
According to the attached article, we should be seeing 5.1 sometime soon.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-portable-will-jump-straight-from-4-4-to-5-1/
i'll wait for other people to try it
didn't like the 5.0 update nor the interface changes it came with
Lollipop is awesome.... just on the Shield Tablet it's executed rather poorly.
I would really love to see nVidia getting it right with 5.1
Cool, we've need an update badly.
I hope its soon
I actually busted out my 2012 nexus 7 2 weeks ago wiped it and have been using it for day to day work use. Its at least 2 times faster for general use and i dont have to scream at it every 5 minutes when chrome crashes. Not to mention i have facebook installed on it something i haven't had on my tablet in months. I now leave the shield hooked up to the tv to use for games because it still plays games like a champ and gamestream is a daily used thing but i tell you what its a little disappointing when your holding the fastest tablet on the market and one that's 3 years old whips its ass.. Im sure Nvidia is fixing this as i type because they are putting alot on the line with this android gaming stuff and i cant see them letting this get any worse than it has. If its not fixed by the time the console comes out im getting rid of it and just gonna grab that since its all I can use it for anyway as it stands.
No xposed on 5.1
Honestly I think the shield has been garbo since I bought it. Spent an entire months pay on it, and it's been do do since day one. I have a virgin mobile desire phone that's more stable. I think we won't really see anything worth a **** until these devs finally get the nvidia apps to work on cm and then a loooong time to see optimized roms like older Nexus devices. My old Galaxy Nexus whips my shield on day to day bs. I can run it on powersave and it barely lags. I have my shield overclocked and I still have hangs and stutters? Shenanigans! As for xposed, lp xposed is still so buggy I have to reboot like 4 times if I want a clean reboot, all I have is gravitybox. May have better luck going back to kitkat and saying screw it for another year until the devs can make this device purr for real.
My shield tab runs decent the few times i have time to pick it up. Agreed that fkr the price and specs it should run much better but mine does not crash even with exposed and several modules. Its just slooow some times
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I don't get all the hate. I am running lollipop with xposed and have everything running. The current update we have has fixed many of my problems and chrome does not crash on me. I actually use it as a daily driver and am happy with it.
If this 5.1 update is as good as it was for my nexus 5 every minute counts.
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BlackDave said:
I don't get all the hate. I am running lollipop with xposed and have everything running. The current update we have has fixed many of my problems and chrome does not crash on me. I actually use it as a daily driver and am happy with it.
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I think mine sensed that I was getting up set with it and has finally started to act like a normal tablet. It does lag occasionally but not enough to really be a bother. It's still stock with locked bootloader and no root.
I still have issues with it. I use as my daily driver(well try to) and I still get it working just fine 50 percent of the time with it being a little bit jittery. At times it is just unusable where it just locks up and I revert back to my HP Touchpad as sad as it sounds. I got this thinking it would be a massive step forward and in all actuality my Z1 provides the most stability and a heavily customized ROM.
Realistically I have not given up on it, just frustration is mounting on something I have had a little over a month. It really makes me wish I had waited until they announced an X1 based device.
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No xposed on 5.1
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Running xposed framework right now on my 5.1.1 N5 with no problems. You won't be able to use EVERY module but that is up to the developers of the modules themselves not the actual framework. Check out the link below if you haven't already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979
Looking forward to the update, although someone mentioned there's no xposed for 5.1.
That would be a deal breaker for now...
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Looking forward to the update, although someone mentioned there's no xposed for 5.1.
That would be a deal breaker for now...
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Look one post above yours.?
It has been now over 2 weeks since the announcement. I am not complaining, however I would like to know if there will be a release date, or a time frame for us to look forward to.
edit: So I have taken a look on the geforce forum for the tablet and I have found that it is slated for a release this month. A release date will be announced soon, please see the attached link.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/827140/shield-tablet/performance-issues-post-ota-2-0/6/
Thanks for sharing! Can't wait for 5.1 stock!
Pariahnoble said:
Honestly I think the shield has been garbo since I bought it. Spent an entire months pay on it, and it's been do do since day one. I have a virgin mobile desire phone that's more stable. I think we won't really see anything worth a **** until these devs finally get the nvidia apps to work on cm and then a loooong time to see optimized roms like older Nexus devices. My old Galaxy Nexus whips my shield on day to day bs. I can run it on powersave and it barely lags. I have my shield overclocked and I still have hangs and stutters? Shenanigans! As for xposed, lp xposed is still so buggy I have to reboot like 4 times if I want a clean reboot, all I have is gravitybox. May have better luck going back to kitkat and saying screw it for another year until the devs can make this device purr for real.
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Try the app by jrummy called, memory manager. Set the top slider (foreground apps "200mb") ahead of the rest and you will be shocked how well you tablet works. I also suggest going back to Kit Kat. You won't miss anything and it will finally just WORK.
What i Gods name was Google testing this software on. Its simply just crap! Really really slow and I only have battery to lunchtime. Tried the cache wipe, but with no success. Even the sms text app uses 3-4 seconds to show. Sometimes, hitting the home button uses as long.
Is there an update coming? I really can't find much concrete on the net.
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Not Google's fault. Blame Samsung
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Not Google's fault. Blame Samsung
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It's Samsung's fault because they rolled out Lollipop.
However, Google isn't blameless here - Lollipop has a been a clusterfcuk of a release in my opinion.
The only thing Google seems to have got right is Material Design. Where's the much vaunted improvements in battery life from Project Volta? MIA, even on the two Nexus devices I have.
Definitely seems to have been a case of form over function in Lollipop.
Interestingly, the preview release of Android M runs better on my Nexus 9 than any version of Lollipop ever did.
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What i Gods name was Google testing this software on. Its simply just crap! Really really slow and I only have battery to lunchtime. Tried the cache wipe, but with no success. Even the sms text app uses 3-4 seconds to show. Sometimes, hitting the home button uses as long.
Is there an update coming? I really can't find much concrete on the net.
MyRom: N910FXXU1BOC4, LRX22C.N910FXXU1BOC5
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Try factory reset. No problem running Lollipop here.
N910G snapdragon running BOE4
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no problems running it here and my device has so many customisations
I had far too many issues. I rolled back on KK. I said for a while "yeah, LP is awesome. Fluid... even though there are issues with it with the Note 4..." until I got sick of the lags here and there, and the battery drain... rolled back to stock KK, and boy! I'm happy! Battery life is automatically 20% better. I also like the stability, it doesn't feel like a toy anymore. I'll wait for 5.1.1
Where do I downloaded kitkat and roll back without rooting? I hate samsmobile download so please tell me it's an alternative
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Where do I downloaded kitkat and roll back without rooting? I hate samsmobile download so please tell me it's an alternative
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Easy! Use SamMobile to START the download, and then just copy the name that starts to download, and search for it on google.
Then put your phone in download mode, use Odin (put the ROM in the AP section, make sure you're using the correct rom for your phone), and click start.
Easy But these are the instructions I found. Search in the forum on how to downgrade to KK. That's what I did.
Best of luck!
this is a nightmare, how GN4 is soo slow? I've sold my Nexus 6 to buy this one....and wtf is happen with Samsung :S......why why :'(
I will downgrade o kitkat and I hope for better performance
I recently upgraded my Note 4 sm-n910G last month. I rooted my stock kitkat Note 4 and was loving it, Kitkat was blazing fast before and root was even better. But then i lost OTA and couldnt upgrade to Lollipop, even Kies3 wouldnt as i was "unofficial". After almost a year, i finally said F-IT, and went to Sammobile, got the Australian 5.0.1 BOC3 i believe, and flashed it. Did the factory reset even tho i didnt have to lose everything. In the end, its worked out beautifully, Lollipop runs fast, no lags or bugs. I think Kitkat was a fraction faster, but i dont have issues i keep hearing about battery drains & lags. All goog for me so far.
I cant wait for 5.1 for stock Note 4 rom. Im thinking about rooting this thing once again. I might even flash CM12.1 nightly ROM, the worlds my oyster
So I picked up a 6P again after I got rid of my original a couple years ago. It arrived yesterday and I got it all setup, but then it started having issues that night. So I did a factory reset. I should mention that the very first thing I did when I got it was root it and install elementalx. Didn't bother with a ROM since Pure Nexus hasn't been supported for awhile (which is what I installed on my old 6P) and I was already running Oreo.
Today was going great until about an hour ago. I unplugged it from charging and the same symptoms as last night happened. When this happens I have to hold the power button until the device reboots.
What happens is that severe lag happens. The screen turns on after a few seconds when I use the fingerprint scanner or power button, but it's very slow and glitchy. Like it'll show half the notification bar and below that there will be a 2 inch long by 1 inch long rectangle in the upper left corner that shows the bottom of my wallpaper. The rest of the screen will show my wallpaper but it'll be glitched, where like the bottom is actually a section of the top. And trying to pull down the notification shade is just impossible. It glitches big time but after lagging of course. I really wish I had pictures to better explain. If it happens again I'll be sure to take some.
From what I've said though, does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
I have a few days where I can still return the device, but I really would like to keep it since it's in mint condition. Battery life is great still and there doesn't seem to be any performance issues when it's working properly. I really don't want to keep doing resets, which if I'd have to then I don't see any point in keeping it since it basically won't be usable.
Edit: 9:37pm
Just had it happen again so I took some pictures. It got to the point the screen wouldn't come on at all, so I had to hold the power button again to reboot. But I found out it still registers the fingerprint to unlock (I hear the sound) and hitting the power button twice still launches the camera (the phone vibrates). When this first started happening this time, after waiting for a little bit with the screen on, I got the popup that the System UI wasn't responding.
Just wanted to update that I flashed the stock ota from Google's site for the October 2018 update. Since doing so the phone has been working fine *knocks on wood*. So right now I'm thinking there was an issue with rooting, elementalx, or magisk. I'll make a backup and do those things one at a time and see when/if my issues return.
Just another update for those who stumble across this topic from Google or whatever.
Things were working great for a few days so I decided to go ahead and root but not install elementalx or anything. Did so last night and upon waking up this morning the phone was having the lag issue again. So it seems rooting is causing my problem. I used magisk, so I'm going to try SuperSU and see if that causes my problem as well.
Switching from magisk to SuperSU did not solve my problem. The phone started freezing up and lagging bad again, requiring me to hold the power button and reboot. So I guess I'll just unroot again and leave it that way.
Unless someone seeing this has any other ideas.
I dont recommend oreo. Im having a lot of issues like the worst of all not being able to install TWRP, lag, screen stutters and excessive battery usage
I love Oreo. Have zero problems with it, my problems are this specific phone. Don't root it and it works flawlessly. Oreo runs better for me than any previous version of Android ever, especially on older lower spec devices. There is zero reason something as powerful as the 6P can't handle it.
TWRP installed without issue, never had an issue with it and Oreo shouldn't affect it anyways. I've got the phone running kind of stock. I installed TWRP and ElementalX and left it at that. Using other apps and adb commands I was able to install a bunch of "Pixel only" stuff and get what I wanted without root. So I'm happy.
The thing's just a side project next to my Note 9 anyways. So long as the hardware issues stay at bay that render the 6P worthless, I'll stay happy.
Sounds like to me you need to do a full re-flash from the stock files on Google's Nexus site and start fresh. Or yours is starting to show signs of the hardware defects.
Either way, this topic is moot to me now I guess. Mainly just left it here in case others find it through Google searches. Good luck!
Whenever I do a major android version upgrade I wipe internal storage. I found that if I didn't do this would get all kinds of little issues. Internal storage carries over files from one android version to the next.
My 6P is doing very similar as yours is. Extreme lagging, basically totally freezing and sometimes half the screen is visible just like on your pictures. I haven't find a solution to it, but you are saying not rooting it fixed it for you? Seems far-fetched but I guess I have no other option. I have been using Lineage OS.
Yeah, removing root instantly fixed the issues for me. I made sure to clear cache and everything like that from recovery too. I'm still unlocked and using TWRP with Elementalx, setup however I like. I just can't root. Soon as I do I can actually feel a little slowdown in using the phone, and then after a day or so the horrible lag with freezing and stuff starts.
Not sure about using a custom ROM since like I said I didn't try it on this phone. My original 6P didn't have any of these issues and I could root, ROM, and modify my heart out.
So to recap, currently and since my last actual update here basically, I've been unlocked, using elementalx and TWRP, but running stock October 2018 Oreo ROM and all that. I used adb commands to get Greenify setup as close to root settings as possible, and to install some Pixel stuff to get night light and whatnot. Got immersive mode by using systemuituner app. And a couple other things to get it as close to how my original 6P was on Pure Nexus.
Hope this helps. I'll be glad to provide anything else I can.
Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. Oreo runs smooth as butter on perfectly (or even in my case, not perfectly since it won't root) fine 6P's. Everything works as it should and I have zero issues and zero lag. All you're doing is cluttering up my topic on something that has absolutely nothing to do with Oreo. This topic is about the issues I'm having after rooting, nothing else. If you don't like Oreo, fine. If you think a device that's several years old at this point isn't running the newest OS as smooth as it ran older ones, that's fine too. Especially since Google has at this point completely disowned the Nexus nameplate. Just don't come into someone else's topic and run your mouth. I told you before I had no issues with Oreo and that it sounds like your device is showing odd behavior, if you didn't like that... well that's fine too. Why subscribe to this topic and keep coming back if it has nothing to do with you. Go away or contribute helpful info to the issue at hand here; rooting complications not Oreo.
Although at this point I'm not having any issues. My 6P has been running buttery smooth since I removed root on what, October 18th... that's about two weeks ago. And this includes installing and tweaking stuff on it that it's supposedly too obsolete to run and only Pixel devices can handle. It goes toe to toe with my Note 9 in daily activities, all while running Oreo.
RockwellB1 said:
Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. Oreo runs smooth as butter on perfectly (or even in my case, not perfectly since it won't root) fine 6P's. Everything works as it should and I have zero issues and zero lag. All you're doing is cluttering up my topic on something that has absolutely nothing to do with Oreo. This topic is about the issues I'm having after rooting, nothing else. If you don't like Oreo, fine. If you think a device that's several years old at this point isn't running the newest OS as smooth as it ran older ones, that's fine too. Especially since Google has at this point completely disowned the Nexus nameplate. Just don't come into someone else's topic and run your mouth. I told you before I had no issues with Oreo and that it sounds like your device is showing odd behavior, if you didn't like that... well that's fine too. Why subscribe to this topic and keep coming back if it has nothing to do with you. Go away or contribute helpful info to the issue at hand here; rooting complications not Oreo.
Although at this point I'm not having any issues. My 6P has been running buttery smooth since I removed root on what, October 18th... that's about two weeks ago. And this includes installing and tweaking stuff on it that it's supposedly too obsolete to run and only Pixel devices can handle. It goes toe to toe with my Note 9 in daily activities, all while running Oreo.
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It wasnt for you but in general, there are more users complaining about it. I tested oreo without rooting and it lags as hell. You can even check comparison videos too... this topic is about having lag issues so I gave you an answer, go back to nougat.
survivor_evil said:
It wasnt for you but in general, there are more users complaining about it. I tested oreo without rooting and it lags as hell. You can even check comparison videos too... this topic is about having lag issues so I gave you an answer, go back to nougat.
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I told you the first time you mentioned that "solution" , Nougat isn't an option for me and shouldn't be because I'm pretty sure I made it clear Oreo wasn't the problem. I even made it clear I basically solved my issue before your first foray into this thread.
I made it clear again in my last post.
I really don't care if there are comparison videos, I have absolutely zero lag if I'm unrooted. That is what this topic is about, lag caused by root. Those who actually spend the time to read more than the topic title can understand that. I've been working with electronics for a long long time, I know how to diagnose everything and I think I made that pretty clear by providing updates as I did things. If not for the fact the thing is all setup and running great, I'd wager I could go back to Nougat and still have root lag issues. The 6P and the 5X for that matter, are ticking time bombs. They both have hardware defects that basically turn them into fancy paperweights. Those defects could be causing my issues, your issues, and edda's issues. No real way to tell that until the bootloops or early shutdowns start. I'm of course hoping this late in the game that maybe those of us with still functioning units don't have those issues, but my gut tells me it's always a "time will tell" issue.
RockwellB1 said:
I told you the first time you mentioned that "solution" , Nougat isn't an option for me and shouldn't be because I'm pretty sure I made it clear Oreo wasn't the problem. I even made it clear I basically solved my issue before your first foray into this thread.
I made it clear again in my last post.
I really don't care if there are comparison videos, I have absolutely zero lag if I'm unrooted. That is what this topic is about, lag caused by root. Those who actually spend the time to read more than the topic title can understand that. I've been working with electronics for a long long time, I know how to diagnose everything and I think I made that pretty clear by providing updates as I did things. If not for the fact the thing is all setup and running great, I'd wager I could go back to Nougat and still have root lag issues. The 6P and the 5X for that matter, are ticking time bombs. They both have hardware defects that basically turn them into fancy paperweights. Those defects could be causing my issues, your issues, and edda's issues. No real way to tell that until the bootloops or early shutdowns start. I'm of course hoping this late in the game that maybe those of us with still functioning units don't have those issues, but my gut tells me it's always a "time will tell" issue.
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If that was a hardware issue Id be having it with other versions of android but no, only oreo. And everything points out that oreo is the issue. Not only me but all the users posting videos and on forums
survivor_evil said:
Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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I agree with you on that. I have had much better luck running Pure Nexus over any other rom.
Chris
RockwellB1 said:
Yeah, removing root instantly fixed the issues for me. I made sure to clear cache and everything like that from recovery too. I'm still unlocked and using TWRP with Elementalx, setup however I like. I just can't root. Soon as I do I can actually feel a little slowdown in using the phone, and then after a day or so the horrible lag with freezing and stuff starts.
Not sure about using a custom ROM since like I said I didn't try it on this phone. My original 6P didn't have any of these issues and I could root, ROM, and modify my heart out.
So to recap, currently and since my last actual update here basically, I've been unlocked, using elementalx and TWRP, but running stock October 2018 Oreo ROM and all that. I used adb commands to get Greenify setup as close to root settings as possible, and to install some Pixel stuff to get night light and whatnot. Got immersive mode by using systemuituner app. And a couple other things to get it as close to how my original 6P was on Pure Nexus.
Hope this helps. I'll be glad to provide anything else I can.
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I had problems similar to this and found out it was the immersive mode causing it, activating it with any app caused problems. If you download terminal emulator and use some commands that can be found elsewhere in the Nexus 6p part of the forum it works fine. Hope this helps. Currently on Resurrection remix with magisk installed. Running smooth as butter. Just waiting for pie to be more stable now
faybarn said:
I had problems similar to this and found out it was the immersive mode causing it, activating it with any app caused problems. If you download terminal emulator and use some commands that can be found elsewhere in the Nexus 6p part of the forum it works fine. Hope this helps. Currently on Resurrection remix with magisk installed. Running smooth as butter. Just waiting for pie to be more stable now
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Thanks but I wasn't even messing with immersive mode at the time. Or are you saying just having it present because I made uituner visible in settings that it might have been causing it?
My issue very much seems to be straight up linked to rooting. If I used magisk or SuperSU (really the only two I'm willing to trust) I'd notice the phone felt sluggish soon as it would reboot after rooting with them. It wasn't a huge slowdown though so I thought nothing of it, until the horrible lag/freezing issues started usually within the day. Remove root, and everything went back to normal.
I've since been using immersive mode without any issue, but of course I gave up on root.
And yeah, I hear ya on Pie. Soon as it becomes stable enough I'll be testing it out. I had 8.1 running on my Note 4, just sold it about a month ago, and it was running great. Only minor issues that were still being worked on. Being a Nexus though I have high hopes this'll be a bit easier to port to.
buchananchris said:
I agree with you on that. I have had much better luck running Pure Nexus over any other rom.
Chris
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Im talking about pure oreo on the nexus 6p. Ive installed it many times thinking coukd be a bad installation but its just that oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. I went back to nougat and its working like a charm again.