Hi ,
How is the overall performance of nexus 7 2012 after the kitkat update , kindly provide the pros and cons after the update.this could help me decide whether i should go for 2012 model or 2013 model.
If you are trying to decide between new and old, obviously go for the 2013, CPU is faster as well as more RAM. ART is also available on the new one.
As for issues, I don't have any with my 2012 so far on KRT16S. Adobe Flash no longer works because of chromium engine so if thats a big thing for you, may want to stay with 4.3
NeoMagus said:
If you are trying to decide between new and old, obviously go for the 2013, CPU is faster as well as more RAM. ART is also available on the new one.
As for issues, I don't have any with my 2012 so far on KRT16S. Adobe Flash no longer works because of chromium engine so if thats a big thing for you, may want to stay with 4.3
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Well the old one is cheaper though.. By quite a bit actually.
So does that mean flash won't even work with other browsers?
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Unless you don't have enough cash for 2013, go for 2012, it's still a great device and I never leave home without it, but 2013 is not really all that expensive, so the choice is clear.
Pros:
- it is smooth (but I factory reset it to install kitkat, so I don't know how it would've been if I just updated from previous version), but it was like this for every version
- transparent task and nav bars (with GEL or nova launcher, only on launcher though)
- clock font is the same again (in 4.2 the hours were bold while minutes were normal - I liked it this way more though)
- there's a new icon if you pull down notification bar on the right side
- battery life is good, but it's always been good
Cons:
- OTA rootkeeper doesn't work anymore, you have to manually re-root it every time
- 4.4 is pretty much the same as ICS except with slightly different icons and colors.
- lots of services still don't work outside US and couple of extra countries (play magazines, play movies...)
I don't know, it's android, it does everything, but starts to lag after a while and batteries die and such, I like my Nexus 7 2012 very much, if it broke (knock knock on the table, don't break!) I'd get a 2013 one, not 2012.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmhpivfu725it3v/Screenshot_2013-11-22-10-56-05.png
Obviously ours is cheaper but if it was me I'd rather spend the extra and have the newer hardware.. not to mention 2012 is creeping up on that 18 month EOL Galaxy Nexus just dealt with, the newer one will still be getting updates.
As for Flash its dead except for Puffin which apparently runs slow ppl talking about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531015
Depends what funds you have available. I don't leave home without it and wouldn't swap it. Been working on KitKat for a while and no major issues and a lot less "lag" on 4.4 than on 4.3 :good:
Nope, OTA suvival works!
I was running a custom rom for 4.3 and 4.2.2 that was heavily optimized for this device by experienced developers on this forum. And the roms were SO MUCH smoother and faster than stock rom google provided. Now that 4.4 is available, I'm just trying out the stock rom by google, and man..I don't like the performance. There are quite often stuttering moments, and I am eagerly waiting for a stable custom rom based on 4.4. I'm pretty sure 2013 version, you don't really need to have a custom rom to make it super smooth, because I have the nexus 4, very similar hardware as 2013 nexus 7, and my nexus 4 runs very smoothly with google's official 4.4 firmware.
Hope it helps.
Well... it was with a heavy heart, that this afternoon, I took the decision to downgrade my Nexus 7 from KitKat 4.4 back to Jellybean 4.3.
Too many issues that I feel are wrong with KitKat... the lack of visual clarity on the WiFi icon, and particularly with the battery icon when the device is recharging.
But the real deal breaker for me is that KitKat 'breaks' the AOSP browser.
Although there is an AOSP KitKat compliant browser available that will run on the first generation Nexus 7, it's tied to Chromium WebView (instead of WebKit), and functionally, it's essentially identical to Chrome. And like Chrome, it lacks the speed of AOSP... further, it also lacks the one single critical feature that I believe any web browser needs to have in order to provide a satisfying browsing experience on any mobile device - and that feature is text-flow. What is the point in having pinch'n'zoom capabilty on any device, if the text doesn't reflow and reformat itself? So much effort using Chrome, panning right, left and then right again... just to read something!
Of course, it could be argued, that there are many third party web browsers on Google PlayStore that provide this functionality... and some do indeed make a pretty good stab at it. Opera Classic for example... Maxthon is another... but all too often, these browsers lack the lightening fast speed of the AOSP browser... maybe because they are encumbered with lots of useless (to me, anyway) features.
For reasons which utterly escape me, Google have been 'pushing' Chrome for Android as though it was the last word in Android browsers - IMHO, it simply isn't. There are far better browsers available on Playstore... but not a single one comes even close to the experience afforded by the AOSP browser.
All of which would be tolerable, if KitKat didn't force AOSP based browsers down the Chromium WebView path... so for me, Android 4.4 KitKat has essentially ruined my browsing experience - and for this reason, I spent the afternoon fastboot flashing my Nexus 7 back to Jellybean 4.3, and then restoring my apps via Titanium... a real time consuming nuisance, but if I wished to continue to use my Nexus 7, predominantly for web browsing, it had to be done.
I'm now back on build JWR66Y, reinstalled the AOSP browser, and everything just works... the way it should... and the way it used to... before KitKat.
Rgrds,
Ged.
The Kit Kat update was so buggy that it drove me away. I went out and bought a dell venue 8 pro today. The tablet was only 279 and has full blown windows 8.1 AND I don't have to hack it in order use flash sites.
Ota was very smooth ,and so far on my n7 2012 its running fab , no delay , only a few odd games don't work ,but its very nice so far
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Upgraded from android 4.3 stock ROM with custom
Kernel,M-kernel, to android 4.4 stock ROM(KRT16s)
to find out exciting new features on KitKat.
The performance of stock KitKat is good for
a stock ROM but not great. The optimized 4.3 ROM
with M-kernel is faster and smooth without over clocking the CPU. The battery life last longer .
KitKat ROM has many new features that worth the
upgrade from android 4.3.
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Although there is an AOSP KitKat compliant browser available that will run on the first generation Nexus 7, it's tied to Chromium WebView (instead of WebKit), and functionally, it's essentially identical to Chrome. And like Chrome, it lacks the speed of AOSP... further, it also lacks the one single critical feature that I believe any web browser needs to have in order to provide a satisfying browsing experience on any mobile device - and that feature is text-flow. What is the point in having pinch'n'zoom capabilty on any device, if the text doesn't reflow and reformat itself? So much effort using Chrome, panning right, left and then right again... just to read something!
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Oof. I was afraid of this (I use Naked Browser Pro). Thanks for confirming the worst. Had similar feelings about Chromium-based Opera (nowhere near as fast as old WebView).
An awful lot of browsers rely on WebView, which makes me think this was a clear move to make all of them suck as badly as Chrome. Not that Google was under any obligation to help their competition, but it's still a crap move.
I do wonder if anyone will take the effort to fill the now difficult speedy browser niche on KitKat. You'd have to either:
1.) Port old WebView
2.) Fork, fix, and optimize Chromium (if that's even possible), or
3.) Use an entirely different engine (possibly your own).
None of these options are great, dev-wise ... and unless we're talking about Naked Browser, any new option is almost guaranteed to come with privacy issues (ads, trackers, etc.)
Given that WebView is part of the ROM, I wonder if OmniROM would be interested in eventually fixing this.
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Kit Kat performance is exactly the same as 4.3, no better or worse. It's OK but gets laggy at times. By no means would I consider the 2012 model quick at this point and you should definitely get the 2013 model.
Overall I consider the first gen nexus 7 a big disappointment in performances especially considering the initial launch video Matias Duarte is calling it "a lag free device". Yeah it is...out of the box, and after full storage and system wipe. Over time it gets so annoyingly laggy you wanna chuck it against a wall! The more storage you use the worse it gets and don't even think about adding a second profile. That's an immediate lag bomb!
Also build quality is very suspect, the screen lift/creaking issue seems to be a matter of when not if. I thought I had dodged a bullet with mine until 3 days after my warranty expired. The left side creaks like crazy, and I cracked the back cover removing it to perform several of the home !made remedies. All worked for a day or 2 then the creaking would come back! I eventually gave up and stopped caring.
I don't really feel too ripped off from buying it. Nearly a year and a half of use and 3 major system updates as well as countless minor system updates feel like I got my moneys worth. But tegra 3 isn't getting any younger and getting more and more dated by the day. Also Google proved with the gnex they are pretty cut throat with their 18 months of support policy so KitKat is most likely the end of the road for the 2012 model. Do yourself a favor and get the new one! You won't regret it
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You have to be insane to get the 2012 model. Mine is showing definite age and I have barely had it a year. I think there are read write problems with the 2012 hardware that makes it laggy over time.
Get 2013 model but know that it will probably be beat up and slow a year from now. I'd say the life cycle is about a year.
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mtva24 said:
The Kit Kat update was so buggy that it drove me away. I went out and bought a dell venue 8 pro today. The tablet was only 279 and has full blown windows 8.1 AND I don't have to hack it in order use flash sites.
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Seriously thinking out getting one of those too.
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Seriously thinking out getting one of those too.
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You won't regret it!
Hey guys!! I update to 4.4 me too, but Does your battery drain faster than 4.3 or it s only mine ? Before the battery was easily 8 or 9 hours daily.. With a basically use, now with exactly the same.. not going more Than 6 hours ..
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Hey guys!! I update to 4.4 me too, but Does your battery drain faster than 4.3 or it s only mine ? Before the battery was easily 8 or 9 hours daily.. With a basically use, now with exactly the same.. not going more Than 6 hours ..
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The battery has not been too bad for me. There may have been a slight decrease, but I find this is common with some updates. Are you on the latest KitKat build or the first one?
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The battery has not been too bad for me. There may have been a slight decrease, but I find this is common with some updates. Are you on the latest KitKat build or the first one?
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The Latest.. It is possible that the reason is the root? I dit it 3days ago after the update(ROM) and I forgot to install the recovery tool .. So This morning I re-root the nexus with rectool and now for 1hour use, I lost only 5% so I don't really understand what's going on ..
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Hello!
I bought my tablet, a TF101 16GB wifi, a year ago, when it just came out.
I also bought a dock since my desire was to use it for work. I take notes, use internet with a wifi mini router for mail, and other office uses. I quite never use it for gaming, only some browsing at home when I do not want to switch on my mac.
I had stock kernel (before ICS), rooted stock kernel, ICS (rooted and not rooted) and now I am trying Jelly bean (not official).
I also tried different cooked roms.
During this year, I often had a lot of problems (kind of problem depends on rom installed):
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
and I always had to do a factory reset (firmware reinstall in a lot of cases) and trying to recover my backups made with different tools.
In this way I can confirm that I never have been able to use it at work because of its weakness.
Now, I cannot understand if it is an Android O.S. problem, a specific problem of MY TF101, a problem of ASUS tablets or what.
Previously I had an IPAD (first model) and I never had such problems (but I cannot do so much with it)...
What have I to do?
Sell it and buy another one?
Sell it and leave tablets world?
Sell it and buy another brand of tablets?
Warranty is expired....
Thank you for your considerations....
Chris
PS sorry for my english....
Hi,
I had similar issues. I've read somewhere that this is caused mainly by two things. NVIDIA drivers and slow flash memory of the tf101 (slownes of the tf101). So, if you get a good price I would consider selling it. The NVIDIA driver problem is causing the reboots because the CPU can't be brought back from sleep or something like that. A workaround is to use this app:
(Wake Lock - PowerManager in google play)
and set it to the first option, PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK. This drains a bit the battery, however I've got rid of the most reboots. Give a try.
jokob
My opinion would be that its an issue of ASUS firmware. Most (would say all but i dont use encryption) if not all of your problems would be solved by custom firmware.
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Nexus 7 - stock Jelly (zzzz)
Nexus S - Knzo JB AOSP chocolate 08/27
Nexus One - Evervolv JB preview 4
Tf101 - RaymanFX JB CM10 b2 on harmony kernel (TF101 rises again!)
chrispazz said:
Hello!
I bought my tablet, a TF101 16GB wifi, a year ago, when it just came out.
I also bought a dock since my desire was to use it for work. I take notes, use internet with a wifi mini router for mail, and other office uses. I quite never use it for gaming, only some browsing at home when I do not want to switch on my mac.
I had stock kernel (before ICS), rooted stock kernel, ICS (rooted and not rooted) and now I am trying Jelly bean (not official).
I also tried different cooked roms.
During this year, I often had a lot of problems (kind of problem depends on rom installed):
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
and I always had to do a factory reset (firmware reinstall in a lot of cases) and trying to recover my backups made with different tools.
In this way I can confirm that I never have been able to use it at work because of its weakness.
Now, I cannot understand if it is an Android O.S. problem, a specific problem of MY TF101, a problem of ASUS tablets or what.
Previously I had an IPAD (first model) and I never had such problems (but I cannot do so much with it)...
What have I to do?
Sell it and buy another one?
Sell it and leave tablets world?
Sell it and buy another brand of tablets?
Warranty is expired....
Thank you for your considerations....
Chris
PS sorry for my english....
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I also have the TF 101 and have experienced many of the same problems, random lockups, FC's, etc. Since this was my first Tablet I attributed this all to the Android system. I had also intended to use this as a note taking tool for work but due to the instability I could not. I recently purchased the TF 700 as a replacement but ran into the same issues I also purchased the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 at the same time and used both Tablets side by side There really is no comparison the note is rock solid and super fast. The note taking functions are incredible.
My only real complaint is how little I've used the dock.. it cost me $150 and I basically use it as a battery or portable charger...
Yeah, I've experienced SOD and RR, but only since I've been using nightlies and non-stable roms. I've been considering changing tablets because my brother wants my tablet, but I think I'd rather buy him a new one because I don't think he can handle the flashing and ****..
For the record, it's been a little more than a year (I bought it around.. end of June, after a ****ty junior year, I decided to reward myself), but I still really like my tablet. Just not the dock.
That's to bad, only issues I experienced were rare lock ups and few random reboots. These were all primarily caused by the first release of ics.
I successfully used this tablet for school and my business. Not to heavy into gaming but did get slightly addicted to shadow gun for a time. My primary use for it lately is media and using QuickBooks mobile for proposals and invoicing while on the road.
I have had 3 tfs for the last year and all have had the same stability, all pre b70. I always flashed roms with nv flash.
I absolutely love this tablet, for the price, it's probably the best tablet around...or was for the last year.
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Hello!
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
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Ok with troubles u got it's usually gone with wrong kernel or older version try update new kernel version.
I using this one nearly a year and I didnt have any trouble about them again. the beginning when I got it I have a lot trouble like you but when I update and try and try I find out those problems about kernel and ROM you using maybe doesnt fit.
Now I using Cyanogen 10 by RaymanXF, very cool now
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I had none of those problems on the latest stock ics i only get these on nightlys?
its funny, that the problems that u guys comment and increasingly Complain upon about RR and Crashes... they happen rarely to me.. its all about the right choice of kernels and roms... Combine and find out which suits u the best !
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its funny, that the problems that u guys comment and increasingly Complain upon about RR and Crashes... they happen rarely to me.. its all about the right choice of kernels and roms... Combine and find out which suits u the best !
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I couldn't agree more... now with JB is running smother than ever and didn't had any reboots, SOD's... nothing :good:
Ive never had any real issue with my TF101. Bought in the month they were released in the UK, got the keyboard through the cheap deal. Stock rom, never rooted and always upgraded OTA without wiping anything.
Mostly used it for reading RSS feeds, emails and a few websites. With the odd simple game, nothing too stressful for it though so I suspect it rarely runs flat out.
I got the keyboard because I thought Id use it, But I think I last plugged the tablet into it about three months ago.
Ive probably had 4 OS crashes that Ive noticed and probably about the same random application crashes (mostly browser) The only app that always crashes in Angry Birds space. Every time I play a certain level it crashes part way though so Im stuck on that level.
The only annoying thing I remember is that the wifi doesnt always connect to my Mifi. But it has no trouble with my home access point so I think thats the Mifi rather than the tablet.
I wouldnt say its perfect but its been almost pain free for me.
I recently bought Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and I was surprised how it has none of the issues the Transformer had. Don't get me wrong - the main problem with TF101 is slow NAND (causing lags when saving, updating etc.) and browsing experience. Apart from that it is quite brilliant. You have to remember that its the first generation of Android tablets - it had its problems and Asus is proving to have quite a few problems with quality control (TF201 was the worst example of this) and uses worse components to lower the price. Anyway - Note 10.1 is brilliant because it solved the problems I had - the browsing is very fast (like on my i7 laptop), no lags whatsoever and the stylus makes taking notes and drawing designs for new games much easier (I used to have a bunch of paper sheets all over my desk before with drawings, projects, TODOs and notes - now I use Lecture Notes for that).
I've had a love/hate relationship with my tf101...I love the keyboard...I can't remember the last time I removed it. Nothing beats a physical keyboard for me. The hate part has mostly been the browsers. It boggles the mind that it seems to be impossible to get a browser to just work...to do what a desktop browser can...every time, all the time.
Instead, to get the function of a desktop browser, I have 8 browsers installed. For the most part, my default is Opera...it works on most things and is relatively fast on most pages. Then, without warning, some page functions just won't work. Dialog boxes are a particular source of angst...as are videos.
Dialog boxes are an issue with most android browsers i've used...some work on some pages...some don't work on the same pages. Videos are completely hit and miss on Opera. I found the best, (and by that I mean the most reliable), browser for that has been the stock browser.
....until I stumbled upon a suggestion to try Boat browser. It has so far proven to be the most stable, reliable, consistent android browser and is my new goto browser. It's not perfect but it's as close to a real desktop browser I've found so far.
I know the video problems are with the browsers themselves since netflix runs flawlessly...in fact, almost everything does. I had some issues with occasional random reboots back in the first ics days but haven't been a problem in forever.
The random reboots on angry birds space isn't a real deal breaker...I can't think of any apps I use on a regular basis, (remember when we used to call them programs), that don't' work or fail on a regular basis.
It's the bloody browsers that have been my one consistent, overwhelming, holding myself back from frisbeeing this thing against a wall, frustration.
At some point, I'll try a new mod....it worked a treat keeping my Motorola Milestone alive and useful.
I even accidentally ran over this thing with my car and except for a slight warping of the body, not a thing broke....not even the screen..
I've considered moving on up to the infinity or some other tablet...if samsung makes a keyboard I'll really be tempted, but so far, this puppy has been a real trooper,..one of my least idiotic purchases.
After 8 months of no issues with my TF-101, I had to do a factory reset. My TF became unstable the last couple of weeks. It was constantly locking up. I thought it may be the kernel I was using (with stock .27), but no matter what kernel I flashed, the tablet was locking up every day even without overclocking. My guess it was one of the apps I installed recently. It wasn't too big a deal though. After wiping, I'm back to running guevor's kernel at 1.4GHz with no issues whatsoever.
I've bought my tf101 3 months ago and I'm happy. First month I had some problems related with suddenly app closing but it was solved with latest ics stock update (.27). Gmail was very unstable too but was solved with update as well. Despite of that i was very curious about root capabilities and custom roms. I still have a stable tablet, overclocked at 1.4. I have the keyboard dock too.
Btw hi, this is my first msg after being anonimous for 3 months xD
Maybe these problems you are reporting are related to hardware issues or firmware only present in older tablets?
Does stock updates touch something in the tablet that custom roms can't do?
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I got mine second hand from a friend and ever since I've had it, it has run rock solid! Now that Cyanogen is releasing CM10 nightlies for the device that are only getting better with every release I hope to get plenty more life from it until I absolutely have to replace it!
I am almost sure that I have a NAND hardware problem.
I tried to install UBUNTU. All is ok but if I try to update to 12.04, I always get the same problem while installing.
Problem raise always when a specific amount of free space is used.
I also noticed sometimes (also with Andorid) to have some problems writing files....
How can I diagnose if I have some bad sectors on internal memory?
TY
Well guys I ordered this from Walmart on the 18th and it got to my house today around lunch. It does have some pretty bad light bleed at the 2 bottom corners but if I turn up the brightness it is less noticeable. But I haven't watched a dark HD quality movie like the new batman in a dark room either. Been researching this device for the last few months and was skeptical to get it after hearing so many problems with the screens and the lagging situation in the stock browser and games. I have been rooting and romming phones since my att captivate i897 with the help of everyone here at xda of course and now I want to make my nexus 10 a better experience than what I'm getting out of the box. I know, I know there are tons and tons of threads on here with guys in my exact situation and I need to read,read, and read some more. Plus Google search bar is my friend when it comes to knowledge. I know all this already. What I wanted to know from you nexus 10 owners is this..........
1. Is mskips toolbox the way to go with this device ( I already downloaded it)
2. Are you guys having better results running a custom ROM with clock able kernel to help alleviate the lag issues?
3. Also wanted to know which browser you guys like the best quickness wise and least laggy?
4. I have not installed the update yet either. It says it's ready to install. Should I or are you guys having more issues with 4.2.1?
5. Can I do what I normally do once rooted and take off all the Google bloatware that I don't need with tibu?
Guys I'm really not trying to beat a dead horse and yes I will continue to read everything I possibly can on my situations because (knowledge is power)!
Thanks in advance guys for any tips or advice!
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BTW guys I just wanted to say that I'm sitting in my pitch black garage typing this with the brightness set pretty low and my eyes really don't notice the light bleed that much or maybe it just doesn't bother me that much. I also wanted to say that I'm definitely a nerd when it comes to having the latest devices with the best hardware and I'm happy with my nexus 10. This is my first tablet and I know that the apps designed for this will come eventually. I know the games will too. As of now I think I made a good choice. If the light bleed bothers me enough or I can't fix my lagging situation or waiting for a while sometimes for a page too open like on here the xda app, I can always return it for a refund. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Sorry for the long rants.
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Best advice....don't do anything (root/ROM) until you've spent a week or more with the tablet stock. Go ahead and take the update, you may want to factory reset after it though to make sure you are sitting on a clean, stock, 4.2.1 system. I've had zero issues with the update...or my tablet.
Play with the tablet, get a feel for the hardware/OS stock and see if you need to (or want to) install a ROM later. Also this gives you a chance to have a base feel for comparison if you do install a ROM later
Make the decision based on your experiences with the tablet and not on what you read here.
So far I've found no uses to Rom It. My S3 is running AOKP only because WiFi Tether and a couple other features...like cpu throttle/battery life. I think I'm going to keep my N10 pretty much stock....but I do have Nova running...pretty smooth and update went smooth as well. It does get frozen from time to time, but a simple reboot fixes it. I
When Freezing occurs or major lag - This is a new device and new O.S. updates will come.
Thank you very much guys for your input. I did use mskips toolbox to unlock,root, and add recovery. Main reason is all the lag I'm experiencing with chrome browser and in games. Want to install AOKP browser. Very smooth compared to chrome. Also wanted to be able to maybe add an overclockable kernel to speed things up a little in gaming. Need for speed most wanted and defense zone 2 HD has horrible Lag. That upsets me too because this thing has awesome internals and I know it can shine at anything I throw at it with just a little help from guys on here at xda. I'll just keep my thoughts to myself because there are enough threads here to complain about what Google and Samsung could have did to make this tablet shine.
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Ocean browser is the way to go. By far the smoothest browser I've seen on android. I used PaulObrien's super boot I think its called to root without unlocking. I did that and then took the official OTA updates. Worked a charm.
440hsp said:
1. Is mskips toolbox the way to go with this device ( I already downloaded it)
2. Are you guys having better results running a custom ROM with clock able kernel to help alleviate the lag issues?
3. Also wanted to know which browser you guys like the best quickness wise and least laggy?
4. I have not installed the update yet either. It says it's ready to install. Should I or are you guys having more issues with 4.2.1?
5. Can I do what I normally do once rooted and take off all the Google bloatware that I don't need with tibu?
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1. Not a big fan of any toolkits; so I don't know (I do stuff manually )
2. Might be placebo, but I've had a better experience in CM 10.1 nightlies than stock; but then again, CM has a more updated Kernel and source (atm)
3. AOSP Chrome isn't too bad either actually (I haven't experienced any of the horror most people seemed to report)
4. Update
5. You can freeze unneeded apps (or just remove them), install adblockers, and get access to certain data files
Thanks espionage724
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Hi all, the nexus 4 is the devices that I want to buy, but I wanted to ask you something: is it the most lagfree device avaible in the market? How is it after installing many apps? I've read in many reviews that's the smoothest android device, but I would like some confirmations
PS: I have a galaxy ace and I know that the nexus 4 will definitely be a super-upgrade
I've got about 100 or so installed apps and it works just fine.
Edit: just checked. I have 129 apps.
From a Nexus 4 bathing in Jelly Beans
Its definitely one of the fastest out there if not the fastest. The pure Google experience that you get with the phone is awesome. If you like to flash your phone there's a huge variety of roms that can be personalized to the tiniest details, and with the right combination of a rom and a decent kernel you will forget what lag is.
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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After you flash for the first time, you will become an addict, beware
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With a nexus 4 you won't "need" to flash anything, you can do it if you want some extra customizations, but even the stock rom is lag free. Install apex or nova launcher and boost animation/window speed, and you'll get an even snappier experience.
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I played with HTC One which is claimed to be the fastest, smoothest, and powerful Android phone. Yes it is! But sometimes you will have the stutter feeling when opening apps, just sometimes though, and it is somewhat unpredictable. its fast but not quite like a Nexus. you have to experience it to know what i mean. plus most apps are developed based on a Nexus, so yeah you'll have the best experience.
I have about 113 apps and still no lag. stock everything until last week i flashed franco kernel. planning to jump onto cyanogenmod tomorrow.
With all the things you say, you make me desire more and more the nexus!
I'm on stock, unlocked and rooted with 700hrs of up-time so far, no crashes other than a couple of 3rd party apps and no lag whatsoever =)
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just grab this amazing phone..
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Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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The problem there is the app itself
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hey man, I came from cooper too and now I have an N4. It's a really good phone, specially when you flash franco's kernel and CM10.1 nightlys (yeah, you don't have anymore to wait updates from Maclaw, OldDroid or biel ). Battery life is good, and with franco kernel it's even better.
All the UI and system apps are really smooth, but when using some apps it's a pain to scrool (apps's fault). Videos and music also play without interruptions. Buy it, you will not regret.
Well I also have a note 10.1 and I'm not sure I'm noticing the lag you're talking about in the facebook app...
I've had every galaxy s series phone available from the vibrant to the sII then the s3 tried the s4....and absolutely nothing comes close to the Nexus experience period.
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Compared next to the s4 this phone actually opens and closes apps faster by a split second or so, but the dual core s3 is faster than the s4 in my opinion so....
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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You picked the worst apps =p
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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I don't think what you are describing is lag caused by the Nexus 4...
It's lag caused by your data speed.
With your facebook example, scolling sometimes stuters as it downloads the actual data & information from facebook itself.
The facebook app tries to place new information at the top & then it tens to want to automatically jump to the top.
If you were connected to LTE or even a fast WiFi connection that problem would be less noticable.
But as said earlier... it's just bad coding from facebook.
Come on man, the Nexus is amazing...
It has the same amount of RAM as my work computer, & lags less.
Personally I find the Nexus 4 to be a very fast device, I wont say lag free as I can certainly see some lag but is it the fastest device out? You bet, ive played around with a very new note 2 and an s4, the N4 seems to be much faster than the Note2 and marginally faster than the s4 just pressing the home button on those two devices show about .5 seconds slower than my n4 in action.
Battery life? Hmm struggle with mine if I am honest but I get a day now, it seems I get way less than everyone else and I am not sure why but I feel i got unlucky with my device and I pray to god I have a faulty power button or something so I can RMA within the warranty to hope for a new device haha.
Its the best value phone and has pretty much the same specs as the top phones, whats not to like? And its a Nexus .
Maybe I should add that the device is also faster than the iphones/ipads I have used which shocked me as people always praised their performance... lol, the N4 is simply held back by some poorly coded applications but what can you do? Hope Developers get better
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...but even the stock rom is lag free.
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Strange; I install the factory ROM onto my N4 and N10, and was quickly reminded as to what lag truly was... it was not pleasing :/
So I like many of you have been jonesing for some sweet lollipop action. It's frustrating to have a top end device and to have to wait. But for those of you who have not had the opportunity to play with lollipop let me just tell you, it ain't ready for prime time. I was excited to get it on my nvidia shield tablet, and in the end unlocked the bootloader and went backt to 4.2 because it was so buggy. I know the user experience varies some from device to device, and the new features are cool. But it will be much better to get our droids updated with a solid release, esp. since we won't have the option to turn back the clock with our locked boot loaders. I know it's not what most want to hear, but It's made me a lot more patient with regards to our Turbos getting updated.
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So I like many of you have been jonesing for some sweet lollipop action. It's frustrating to have a top end device and to have to wait. But for those of you who have not had the opportunity to play with lollipop let me just tell you, it ain't ready for prime time. I was excited to get it on my nvidia shield tablet, and in the end unlocked the bootloader and went backt to 4.2 because it was so buggy. I know the user experience varies some from device to device, and the new features are cool. But it will be much better to get our droids updated with a solid release, esp. since we won't have the option to turn back the clock with our locked boot loaders. I know it's not what most want to hear, but It's made me a lot more patient with regards to our Turbos getting updated.
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I keep seeing people saying things like this. I came from a nexus 5 with lollipop and never had any issues. 5.0 is a stable release. What was "buggy" for you?
For the nvidia shield, it just dogged down the tablet. Chrome froze often in browsing situations, FB had a major memory leak problem, and as a whole the tablet just slowed down and began to hang frequently. I factory reset after the OTA and was running totally stock and it down graded the user experience significantly. Many others reported very similar experiences on that device. I just read today they've released a 5.0.1 update, so I'm definately going to watch that closely because lollipop is definately cool. Esp. the smart lock, screen pinning, and new material design look. But it is all pretty useless if it dogs your hardware. I'm sure they will get it fixed, but all I'm saying is I'd rather have it running right on the turbo, than running like it was on the nvidia shield, esp. since our turbos are locked down and their is no way going back.
Nvidia shield has an Nvidia processor, this is the problem
I put lolliop on my nexus 7(2012) and i was amazed at the improvrment. Seemed like it freed up memory and it was buttery snooth. My only complant would be the white backgrounds and keyboards. Haven't seen it on phone yet. Can't wait
I also saw a lot of bugs on both a moto g 2014 and the nexus 6. There are always people who do not have the same experiences, but for me it was nowhere near what I consider stable.
Still no issues on the 2013 nexus 7 or 1st gen moto g. I also don't see the point of these "keep calm" threads. It's about as useful as the "unlock our bootloader" threads
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Nvidia shield has an Nvidia processor, this is the problem
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I have the Shield Tablet and see the lollipop upgrade as awesome. It is the fastest tablet available besides the Nexus 9 in some cases. Lollipop is definite improvement over KitKat in every way.
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djbling said:
I put lolliop on my nexus 7(2012) and i was amazed at the improvrment. Seemed like it freed up memory and it was buttery snooth. My only complant would be the white backgrounds and keyboards. Haven't seen it on phone yet. Can't wait
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wut? I have a 2012 nexus 7 (grouper) and lollipop made it ridiculously slow. That and the fact that the ota update broke root pushed me to try cm11.
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wut? I have a 2012 nexus 7 (grouper) and lollipop made it ridiculously slow. That and the fact that the ota update broke root pushed me to try cm11.
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5.0 was really slow, now 5.0.2 has fixed that and its better than kitkat for me.
5.0...0.1 and 0.2 were all smooth on my Nexus 7 (2013LTE) No issues so far. Occasional bootloop with am unstable CM build..but stock 5.0 no issues. Smooth as silk.. Better battery life for me as well..Very happy indeed..
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wut? I have a 2012 nexus 7 (grouper) and lollipop made it ridiculously slow. That and the fact that the ota update broke root pushed me to try cm11.
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Garbage NAND, a known issue slightly patched. That was the curse of the 2012 N7.
OTAs always break root. You shoul have known. Reroot it, its not a big deal.
According to the attached article, we should be seeing 5.1 sometime soon.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-portable-will-jump-straight-from-4-4-to-5-1/
i'll wait for other people to try it
didn't like the 5.0 update nor the interface changes it came with
Lollipop is awesome.... just on the Shield Tablet it's executed rather poorly.
I would really love to see nVidia getting it right with 5.1
Cool, we've need an update badly.
I hope its soon
I actually busted out my 2012 nexus 7 2 weeks ago wiped it and have been using it for day to day work use. Its at least 2 times faster for general use and i dont have to scream at it every 5 minutes when chrome crashes. Not to mention i have facebook installed on it something i haven't had on my tablet in months. I now leave the shield hooked up to the tv to use for games because it still plays games like a champ and gamestream is a daily used thing but i tell you what its a little disappointing when your holding the fastest tablet on the market and one that's 3 years old whips its ass.. Im sure Nvidia is fixing this as i type because they are putting alot on the line with this android gaming stuff and i cant see them letting this get any worse than it has. If its not fixed by the time the console comes out im getting rid of it and just gonna grab that since its all I can use it for anyway as it stands.
No xposed on 5.1
Honestly I think the shield has been garbo since I bought it. Spent an entire months pay on it, and it's been do do since day one. I have a virgin mobile desire phone that's more stable. I think we won't really see anything worth a **** until these devs finally get the nvidia apps to work on cm and then a loooong time to see optimized roms like older Nexus devices. My old Galaxy Nexus whips my shield on day to day bs. I can run it on powersave and it barely lags. I have my shield overclocked and I still have hangs and stutters? Shenanigans! As for xposed, lp xposed is still so buggy I have to reboot like 4 times if I want a clean reboot, all I have is gravitybox. May have better luck going back to kitkat and saying screw it for another year until the devs can make this device purr for real.
My shield tab runs decent the few times i have time to pick it up. Agreed that fkr the price and specs it should run much better but mine does not crash even with exposed and several modules. Its just slooow some times
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I don't get all the hate. I am running lollipop with xposed and have everything running. The current update we have has fixed many of my problems and chrome does not crash on me. I actually use it as a daily driver and am happy with it.
If this 5.1 update is as good as it was for my nexus 5 every minute counts.
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BlackDave said:
I don't get all the hate. I am running lollipop with xposed and have everything running. The current update we have has fixed many of my problems and chrome does not crash on me. I actually use it as a daily driver and am happy with it.
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I think mine sensed that I was getting up set with it and has finally started to act like a normal tablet. It does lag occasionally but not enough to really be a bother. It's still stock with locked bootloader and no root.
I still have issues with it. I use as my daily driver(well try to) and I still get it working just fine 50 percent of the time with it being a little bit jittery. At times it is just unusable where it just locks up and I revert back to my HP Touchpad as sad as it sounds. I got this thinking it would be a massive step forward and in all actuality my Z1 provides the most stability and a heavily customized ROM.
Realistically I have not given up on it, just frustration is mounting on something I have had a little over a month. It really makes me wish I had waited until they announced an X1 based device.
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No xposed on 5.1
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Running xposed framework right now on my 5.1.1 N5 with no problems. You won't be able to use EVERY module but that is up to the developers of the modules themselves not the actual framework. Check out the link below if you haven't already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979
Looking forward to the update, although someone mentioned there's no xposed for 5.1.
That would be a deal breaker for now...
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Looking forward to the update, although someone mentioned there's no xposed for 5.1.
That would be a deal breaker for now...
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Look one post above yours.?
It has been now over 2 weeks since the announcement. I am not complaining, however I would like to know if there will be a release date, or a time frame for us to look forward to.
edit: So I have taken a look on the geforce forum for the tablet and I have found that it is slated for a release this month. A release date will be announced soon, please see the attached link.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/827140/shield-tablet/performance-issues-post-ota-2-0/6/
Thanks for sharing! Can't wait for 5.1 stock!
Pariahnoble said:
Honestly I think the shield has been garbo since I bought it. Spent an entire months pay on it, and it's been do do since day one. I have a virgin mobile desire phone that's more stable. I think we won't really see anything worth a **** until these devs finally get the nvidia apps to work on cm and then a loooong time to see optimized roms like older Nexus devices. My old Galaxy Nexus whips my shield on day to day bs. I can run it on powersave and it barely lags. I have my shield overclocked and I still have hangs and stutters? Shenanigans! As for xposed, lp xposed is still so buggy I have to reboot like 4 times if I want a clean reboot, all I have is gravitybox. May have better luck going back to kitkat and saying screw it for another year until the devs can make this device purr for real.
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Try the app by jrummy called, memory manager. Set the top slider (foreground apps "200mb") ahead of the rest and you will be shocked how well you tablet works. I also suggest going back to Kit Kat. You won't miss anything and it will finally just WORK.