I just got my note N9005 today , details as attached
I need 2 important things
root for my root apps
custom recovery CWM to have Nand backup and restore options
According to readings there r 2 ways to root
1 - Universal Root de la Vega which offer [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA, and when u flash CWM u lose also [KNOX 0x0]
2 - CF-Auto-Root which with u lose [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA
and I think when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state (right?)
Am I right so far?
Ok, now when I started my phone with Kies, I found that there is firmware upgrade is available to my phone as the attached pic, should i root first then upgrade or upgrade then root (i used to use mobile odin pro to inject the root during flashing a new stock rom to keep the root)
If i upgrade via Kies would I lose my apps, settings, data and root (upgrade will wipe), I know that OTA will keep every thing but not sure about root?
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thermax04 said:
I just got my note N9005 today , details as attached
I need 2 important things
root for my root apps
custom recovery CWM to have Nand backup and restore options
According to readings there r 2 ways to root
1 - Universal Root de la Vega which offer [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA, and when u flash CWM u lose also [KNOX 0x0]
2 - CF-Auto-Root which with u lose [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA
and I think when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state (right?)
Am I right so far?
Ok, now when I started my phone with Kies, I found that there is firmware upgrade is available to my phone as the attached pic, should i root first then upgrade or upgrade then root (i used to use mobile odin pro to inject the root during flashing a new stock rom to keep the root)
If i upgrade via Kies would I lose my apps, settings, data and root (upgrade will wipe), I know that OTA will keep every thing but not sure about root?
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you will only lose root ,but after you download the update it problem wont install because of root
jaythenut said:
you will only lose root
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do u mean that if i upgrade via kies I will lose root?
jaythenut said:
but after you download the update it problem wont install because of root
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do not understand what u mean!!
thermax04 said:
do u mean that if i upgrade via kies I will lose root?
do not understand what u mean!!
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Yes if you update with kies you will lose root
jaythenut said:
Yes if you update with kies you will lose root
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ok, should i upgrade first then root?
thermax04 said:
ok, should i upgrade first then root?
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Just check there's a root for the new firmware then you are good to go
thermax04 said:
I just got my note N9005 today , details as attached
I need 2 important things
root for my root apps
custom recovery CWM to have Nand backup and restore options
According to readings there r 2 ways to root
1 - Universal Root de la Vega which offer [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA, and when u flash CWM u lose also [KNOX 0x0]
2 - CF-Auto-Root which with u lose [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA
and I think when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state (right?)
Am I right so far?
Ok, now when I started my phone with Kies, I found that there is firmware upgrade is available to my phone as the attached pic, should i root first then upgrade or upgrade then root (i used to use mobile odin pro to inject the root during flashing a new stock rom to keep the root)
If i upgrade via Kies would I lose my apps, settings, data and root (upgrade will wipe), I know that OTA will keep every thing but not sure about root?
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Do 1. URDLV first on your current (MJ1) firmware version to get root without tripping knox. If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader & will trip knox.
Then update to MJ7 using mobile odin pro 3.85 with a downloaded firmware from sammobile.com
Doing nandroid means installing a custom recovery which would currently trigger knox - no way around this atm. I also want to flash custom recovery and roms, but I'm waiting a couple of months in case a knox-safe method is found.
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dsm52 said:
Do 1. URDLV first on your current (MJ1) firmware version to get root without tripping knox. If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader & will trip knox.
Then update to MJ7 using mobile odin pro 3.85 with a downloaded firmware from sammobile.com
Doing nandroid means installing a custom recovery which would currently trigger knox - no way around this atm. I also want to flash custom recovery and roms, but I'm waiting a couple of months in case a knox-safe method is found.
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Can u explain what u mean by : If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader
Can u confirm with yes or no: when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state and [KNOX 0x0], after flashing a custom recovery
Custom roms can be installed knox safe
kn0x0ut script
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thermax04 said:
Can u explain what u mean by : If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader
Can u confirm with yes or no: when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state and [KNOX 0x0], after flashing a custom recovery
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Once Knox is tripped there is NO WAY to reset atm.... You can flash anything you want because it isn't changing to 0x0 again, currently...
Installing root through URDLV WON'Trip knox warranty if you are on MJ1 firmware. As soon as you upgrade your firmware to MJ7 you get a root unfriendly bootloader. Doesn't matter what you use it will trigger Knox 0x1 permanently.
If you root at MJ1 then use Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade to MJ7 you should be able to go back to MJ1 easily and not have Knox triggered as MOP doesn't flash bootloaders.
ultramag69 said:
Once Knox is tripped there is NO WAY to reset atm.... You can flash anything you want because it isn't changing to 0x0 again, currently...
Installing root through URDLV WON'Trip knox warranty if you are on MJ1 firmware. As soon as you upgrade your firmware to MJ7 you get a root unfriendly bootloader. Doesn't matter what you use it will trigger Knox 0x1 permanently.
If you root at MJ1 then use Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade to MJ7 you should be able to go back to MJ1 easily and not have Knox triggered as MOP doesn't flash bootloaders.
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Thank u all
Ok, I got it now
Found 2 threads regarding URDLV method, one of them is closed and rooting files are removed, although most of explanation s were about it, second one is a little confusing to me, can u support me here how 2 do it
thermax04 said:
Thank u all
Ok, I got it now
Found 2 threads regarding URBAN method, one of them is closed and rooting files are removed, although most of explanation s were about it, second one is a little confusing to me, can u support me here how 2 do it
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Sure i can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47390175
Will this work? - Sure look at all those who thanked me for this + i supported many german guys with PM + i did it myself and look at my signature
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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Killberty said:
Sure i can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47390175
Will this work? - Sure look at all those who thanked me for this + i supported many german guys with PM + i did it myself and look at my signature
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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iam familiar with rooting and flashing, but never seen something like this before, looks very complicated 2 me, needs alot of concentration, will go through it after finish work, or find an easier solution
thermax04 said:
iam familiar with rooting and flashing, but never seen something like this before, looks very complicated 2 me, needs alot of concentration, will go through it after finish work, or find an easier solution
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Cmon bro
This is very easy, just follow the steps as decribed - many ppl who never had an android before made it and thanked me and said it was easy
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I updated 3 weeks ago to BTU MH8 with knox components and all is perfect., Knox warranty 0x00....
Since my phone originally was ITV (Italy) I'd like to recover the original CSC to ITV with the new firmare ITV MHB released today.
Is there any problem, with knox installed, to flash MHB with Odin? I'm going to sell my S4 and I prefer to return it to the original status.
Thank you
Umberto
umberto.sulla said:
I updated 3 weeks ago to BTU MH8 with knox components and all is perfect., Knox warranty 0x00....
Since my phone originally was ITV (Italy) I'd like to recover the original CSC to ITV with the new firmare ITV MHB released today.
Is there any problem, with knox installed, to flash MHB with Odin? I'm going to sell my S4 and I prefer to return it to the original status.
Thank you
Umberto
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I would like to know if you can flash with KNOX (using ODIN)?
Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..
DjeMBeY said:
Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..
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Thank you for you isimple answer... I only want to be sure that changing CSC from BTU to DTM to ITV etc (going ahead with fw versions) is allowed ...
I don't want to brick my device
DjeMBeY said:
Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..
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Are you 100% sure about that?
I heard once you have KNOX warranty void 0x1 then no matter what firmware you're trying to flash Odin will fail. Even if it's a newer firmware.
I hope you're right and they're wrong.
Obagleyfreer said:
Are you 100% sure about that?
I heard once you have KNOX warranty void 0x1 then no matter what firmware you're trying to flash Odin will fail. Even if it's a newer firmware.
I hope you're right and they're wrong.
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??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1
DjeMBeY said:
??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1
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Ok, updated to MHB through Odin and no problem.
Status Knox Warranty still 0x00
umberto.sulla said:
Ok, updated to MHB through Odin and no problem.
Status Knox Warranty still 0x00
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Yeah, DO NOT flash any Custom Recovery nor Root and your status will stay at 0x0..
You can flash any newer FW but think twice as you can't go back if you don't like it...
No knox voice in my download mode:
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is it hidden or is normal until you flash the new knox bootloader?
Diomorgan said:
No knox voice in my download mode:
....
is it hidden or is normal until you flash the new knox bootloader?
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You have OLD bootloader, no KNOX in it... You're safe for now..
BTW, your Download Mode will look different after you flash new FW..
DjeMBeY said:
You have OLD bootloader, no KNOX in it... You're safe for now..
BTW, your Download Mode will look different after you flash new FW..
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Thank you for the fast answer, so I'll wait untill you'll release the superslim MI1 to keep my old bootloader
Do you have any picture for the new knox counter on the bootloader of MH8?
mkh.mourad said:
Do you have any picture for the new knox counter on the bootloader of MH8?
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It's NOT a counter, it's flag, stays at 0x1 no matter how many times you flash..
here is the picture http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45877809&postcount=108
DjeMBeY said:
It's NOT a counter, it's flag, stays at 0x1 no matter how many times you flash..
here is the picture http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45877809&postcount=108
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hmmmmm
That's a great problem. I stay using my UBMGA firmware.
DjeMBeY said:
??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1
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But you didn't flash the bootloader, did you?
So if you have new bootloader and knox 0x1 status you can still flash stock firmware in Odin and run it fine, even with stock kernel?
mkh.mourad said:
hmmmmm
That's a great problem. I stay using my UBMGA firmware.
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You can install latest XXUDMI1 but CWM version as bootloader won't be flashed..
Obagleyfreer said:
But you didn't flash the bootloader, did you?
So if you have new bootloader and knox 0x1 status you can still flash stock firmware in Odin and run it fine, even with stock kernel?
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I'm using pre-rooted MI1 (Odin version) with latest bootloader so yes, you can.
@ both of you
Check my thread in Development section for more informations
Thanks
On the S3 if I used MobileOdin to flash a new Rom it wouldn't update the bootloader. Can someone confirm the same is true on the S4?
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DjeMBeY said:
You can install latest XXUDMI1 but CWM version as bootloader won't be flashed..
I'm using pre-rooted MI1 (Odin version) with latest bootloader so yes, you can.
@ both of you
Check my thread in Development section for more informations
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Awesome thanks dude, and we can find this Mi1 firmware in your thread?
Painman1963 said:
On the S3 if I used MobileOdin to flash a new Rom it wouldn't update the bootloader. Can someone confirm the same is true on the S4?
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That would probably be an instant KNOX warranty void due to the fact that Mobile ODIN only runs on rooted devices...
But I'm not gonna experiment with it due to the uncertainty of it...
I have a samsung galaxy s4 i9500 running Android 4.3 ( firmware I9500XXUEMJ9) (country-India).
I have updated to Android 4.3 officially. ()Now I see a knox shortcut icon , When I tap on it , I see a screen to download knox. (see the image below).
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Also when I go to download mode , I see nothing related to knox warranty bit. So , does that mean my s4 is knox free ?
I wish to root my phone without loosing warranty according to the following thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Can I flash "PDA_I9500XXUEMJ9_KNOXFREE_ROOT_ODEX" and the binary counter/knox flag (if it exits) will not change ?
[I wanted to post in that thread but I am not allowed to ]
Please help me. I want to root without loosing warranty.
sakshamdhawan said:
I have a samsung galaxy s4 i9500 running Android 4.3 ( firmware I9500XXUEMJ9) (country-India).
After updating to 4.3 , I see a knox shortcut icon , When I tap on it , I see a screen to download knox. (see the image below).
Also when I go to download mode , I see nothing related to knox warranty bit. So , does that mean my s4 is knox free ?
I wish to root my phone without loosing warranty according to the following thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Can I flash "PDA_I9500XXUEMJ9_KNOXFREE_ROOT_ODEX" and the binary counter/knox flag (if it exits) will not change ?
[I wanted to post in that thread but I am not allowed to ]
Please help me. I want to root without loosing warranty.
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Nahhh... It's not possible, if you flash non-knox (knox freer) ROM, and then your phone still asks for KNOX - Idk... Just try to reflash your firmware.
Try to go to custom recovery menu (flash it if you don't have), that in the CWM (or phillz - whatever) try to format /system and /data. Wipe data and cache, try to flash firmware via odin again.. That's my solution and will probably works.
But - check your apps list - if you can find app KNOX or somethings like that (in the name "knox"), download root uninstall app, delete knox notification and knox... Just search
sakshamdhawan said:
I have a samsung galaxy s4 i9500 running Android 4.3 ( firmware I9500XXUEMJ9) (country-India).
After updating to 4.3 , I see a knox shortcut icon , When I tap on it , I see a screen to download knox. (see the image below).
Also when I go to download mode , I see nothing related to knox warranty bit. So , does that mean my s4 is knox free ?
I wish to root my phone without loosing warranty according to the following thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105
Can I flash "PDA_I9500XXUEMJ9_KNOXFREE_ROOT_ODEX" and the binary counter/knox flag (if it exits) will not change ?
[I wanted to post in that thread but I am not allowed to ]
Please help me. I want to root without loosing warranty.
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You have already the warranty bit. It is related to Knox warranty void 0x0. It cannot be reseted if it is 1
This firmware PDA_I9500XXUEMJ9_KNOXFREE_ROOT_ODEX if you flash it, your bit will change to 1 because the bootloader sees that the firmware pda is custom
I'm wondering too
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I have the same as Sakshamdhawn. So i am wondering too... Will I lose my warranty if i root my phone.
Actually I'm wondering do I have knox or not
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I want to make it clear that I updated to android 4.3 officially.I have not rooted, not installed any custom recovery ..nothing !
So till now my phone status is fully offical .Warranty bit is 0 too.
Now I wish to root and i clearly know Knox bootloader will void the warranty.
But what I am trying to ask is do I have the knox secured bootlooder ? or a knox free bootloader ?
Because I only see the warranty bit and there is no mention of knox in download mode.
This is an image from 19505. There is a mention of knox. But look at the image in my first post - knox is not mentioned in download mode.
If it is not a knox secured bootloader , I only need to worry about the binary counter .And According to this thread , flashing pre rooted rom will not increase binary counter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105&page=5
Sorry if am making all this confusing !
sakshamdhawan said:
I want to make it clear that I updated to android 4.3 officially.I have not rooted, not installed any custom recovery ..nothing !
So till now my phone status is fully offical .Warranty bit is 0 too.
Now I wish to root and i clearly know Knox bootloader will void the warranty.
But what I am trying to ask is do I have the knox secured bootlooder ? or a knox free bootloader ?
Because I only see the warranty bit and there is no mention of knox in download mode.
This is an image from 19505. There is a mention of knox. But look at the image in my first post - knox is not mentioned in download mode.
If it is not a knox secured bootloader , I only need to worry about the binary counter .And According to this thread , flashing pre rooted rom will not increase binary counter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317105&page=5
Sorry if am making all this confusing !
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You have already the knox secure bootloader,I can see in your download mode the warranty bit 0!!!
if your warranty bit is 0, you are in warranty but if it is tripped to 1 you cant reset it. I9505 is a LTE quad core Model and not I9500 the octa core Model.
In our I9505 model, we can see the knox warranty void 0x0 if we have the secured knox bootloader.
But in yours I9500 model, you have the warranty bit 0, it is similar to knox warranty void 0x0 and it tells that you have the secured knox bootloader.
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leveex said:
I'm wondering too
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I have the same as Sakshamdhawn. So i am wondering too... Will I lose my warranty if i root my phone.
Actually I'm wondering do I have knox or not
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reboot to download mode and see there, if knox warranty void 0x0 is present or not
How it's possible to flash firmware and have root without voided warranty?
erikasnoske said:
How it's possible to flash firmware and have root without voided warranty?
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Not possible using stock Samsung bootloader. That 4.3 unknoxed custom rom should have been flashed from stock 4.2.2 over 4.2.2 bootloader, so you would have any kind of Frankenstein, 4.3 rom over 4.2.2 bootloader, and you will never be able to flash a stock rom without consider to get the knox warranty bit. Once installed stock 4.3 with Knox bootloader, warranty bit will always be present, so if you try to flash or root anything the bit will be activated.
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If u wanna root just root.I tripped d counter within 15 days of purchase.I had 4.3 preinstalled in it.Now it is 0*1
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RISHI RAJ said:
If u wanna root just root.I tripped d counter within 15 days of purchase.I had 4.3 preinstalled in it.Now it is 0*1
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I remember I flashed roms first day I bought it... It was about 4-5 months ago..
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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Only one thing once knox is tripped there's know going back
ok
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Most important, turn re-activation lock OFF..
If it's on you will have problems....
RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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It would have been interesting to at least try some new test in the process - for instance I have seen some intriguing reports from N900W8 models where they have apparently installed some version of xnote (custom rom pre-rooted) without tripping knox presumably by somehow using stock Samsung kernel and stock Samsung recovery (I repeat, that was THEIR claim, not mine, but more research and testing on the subject would be nice).
I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
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I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks
DrawnToLife said:
I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
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That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).
xclub_101 said:
That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).
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No, not possible to downgrade to MJ1 even when you came from MJ1 and upgraded to MJ4.
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anameeeen said:
I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks
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I followed this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618633
Hi,
I installed an Samsung Firmupdate this week, my build is N9005XXUENB4.
How can I root this firmware? I saw that the Vega root is not working with this newest build.
Edwin
Morrpheus said:
Hi,
I installed an Samsung Firmupdate this week, my build is N9005XXUENB4.
How can I root this firmware? I saw that the Vega root is not working with this newest build.
Edwin
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http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...-3-lte-sm-n9005-new-xxuenb7-firmware-tutorial. This is for n9005
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fadhil3536 said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-442-...-3-lte-sm-n9005-new-xxuenb7-firmware-tutorial. This is for n9005
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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This is only for build XXUENB7? I have build XXUENB4 (and not Galaxy Note 3 LTE)
Google search maybe ?
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Morrpheus said:
This is only for build XXUENB7? I have build XXUENB4 (and not Galaxy Note 3 LTE)
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Just to let you know, note 3 n9005 is otherwise called note 3 LTE, anything with 5 at the end like i9305, i9505, is the LTE variant.
Coming to question of root, that method will work, its called CF-auto root and the latest package can be downloaded from
http://download.chainfire.eu/352/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.zip
But this will void your warranty as KNOX counter will get tripped to 0x1.
Having said that anybody who is on 4.4.2(any version), if they were not rooted before, will get KNOX 0x1 (warranty Void), if they try to root.
swagatsourav said:
Having said that anybody who is on 4.4.2(any version), if they were not rooted before, will get KNOX 0x1 (warranty Void), if they try to root.
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This should be stickied somewhere, because as someone who is still within the first 24 hours of reading about this device, it is not clear at all.
I just got a Note 3 that is still on 4.3 Jelly Bean, Kies is telling me to update as follows:
Current firmware version : PDA:MJ7 / PHONE:MJ7 / CSC:MJ1 (VIA)
Latest firmware version : PDA:NB4 / PHONE:NB1 / CSC:NB1 (VIA)
I am trying to find out if I can do this safely or not, at the moment my Note 3 is stock out of the box.
If what you write is right, then I should NOT update using Kies now, but root first, if my goal is to keep Knox warranty 0x0.
But how, if chainfires method is also triggering it?
If I had root I could use Mobile Odin and that doesn't trigger Knox?
I have spent several hours reading the subforums for the Note 3 as of now, it's still not clear, I think some more things need to be stickied and updated.
What would the best steps be from MJ7 stock?
MrWil said:
This should be stickied somewhere, because as someone who is still within the first 24 hours of reading about this device, it is not clear at all.
I just got a Note 3 that is still on 4.3 Jelly Bean, Kies is telling me to update as follows:
Current firmware version : PDA:MJ7 / PHONE:MJ7 / CSC:MJ1 (VIA)
Latest firmware version : PDA:NB4 / PHONE:NB1 / CSC:NB1 (VIA)
I am trying to find out if I can do this safely or not, at the moment my Note 3 is stock out of the box.
If what you write is right, then I should NOT update using Kies now, but root first, if my goal is to keep Knox warranty 0x0.
But how, if chainfires method is also triggering it?
If I had root I could use Mobile Odin and that doesn't trigger Knox?
I have spent several hours reading the subforums for the Note 3 as of now, it's still not clear, I think some more things need to be stickied and updated.
What would the best steps be from MJ7 stock?
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You will trip Knox unless you're firmware is MJ1 or lower... You have been warned...
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You will trip Knox unless you're firmware is MJ1 or lower... You have been warned...
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That needs to be stickied somewhere too! For newbies to this device, it takes hours to find this info.
MrWil said:
That needs to be stickied somewhere too! For newbies to this device, it takes hours to find this info.
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Not really, if you are looking up ways to root without tripping Knox then you generally stumble across the URDLV thread and it has this in BIG RED letters across the top... URDLV was a sticky in Original Developement forum...
AFAIK the only way to root 4.4.2 is to downgrade it to 4.3 before MJ4 then root it using URDLV method. Here's a site on how this can be done.
http://www.thebitbag.com/root-your-...ut-tripping-samsung-knox-security-suite/73295
Disclaimer : I have not try this method and not responsible if you brick your phone.
As others have posted, there's currently no method to reset the Knox counter once it is tripped. The bounty is still out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52095753#post52095753
Keribang3000 said:
AFAIK the only way to root 4.4.2 is to downgrade it to 4.3 before MJ4 then root it using URDLV method. Here's a site on how this can be done.
http://www.thebitbag.com/root-your-...ut-tripping-samsung-knox-security-suite/73295
Disclaimer : I have not try this method and not responsible if you brick your phone.
As others have posted, there's currently no method to reset the Knox counter once it is tripped. The bounty is still out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52095753#post52095753
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AFAIK aside from N900W8, you cannot downgrade 4.4.2 to 4.3.
Hi, my phone is less than a week old, I want to root it in order to debloat it initially, but with the possibility of at some point going totally custom.
Now I know there's virtually no way of modifying without tripping KNOX (towelroot does not work with my OS release)......what I need are some clear answers (I've seen a lot of conflicting information) as to what tripping KNOX will mean for the device....
So here are my questions....
1) if I go fully custom, will I be able to return to full stock with Odin?
2) if I return to full stock, will I be able to receive OTA updates?
3) with a tripped device, will I see a KNOX message on normal start up of the phone?
4) is my warranty totally screwed even If I have a totally unrelated hardware issue?
5) is EU Regulation (1999/44/CE) ANY REAL help, or can manufacturers interpret it in their favor?
Thanks in advance......Keith.
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keithross39 said:
Hi, my phone is less than a week old, I want to root it in order to debloat it initially, but with the possibility of at some point going totally custom.
Now I know there's virtually no way of modifying without tripping KNOX (towelroot does not work with my OS release)......what I need are some clear answers (I've seen a lot of conflicting information) as to what tripping KNOX will mean for the device....
So here are my questions....
1) if I go fully custom, will I be able to return to full stock with Odin?
2) if I return to full stock, will I be able to receive OTA updates?
3) with a tripped device, will I see a KNOX message on normal start up of the phone?
4) is my warranty totally screwed even If I have a totally unrelated hardware issue?
5) is EU Regulation (1999/44/CE) ANY REAL help, or can manufacturers interpret it in their favor?
Thanks in advance......Keith.
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1) Yes, you just need to download firmware from sammobile and flash it with Odin
2) By going to fully custom you trip knox to 0x1 and theoretically you can`t get OTA updates but I received it after I had knox 0x1 and on fully stock ROM
3) No
4) Yes if you send it to Samsung service
5) I don`t even know what that is
Thank you for your reply.....
Number 5 is an EU ruling that covers consumer protection and statutory warranty and it *appears* to contradict what Samsung says about KNOX voiding warranty.....The thing is, I'm not a lawyer so I can't be 100% certain......
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Honestly i don't know if that EU rulling has any real application or at least it doesn't in every country because Samsung or their repair centers will check for knox and will use that excuse to avoid fixing the phone under warranty for something that a rom or mod wouldn't cause.
But it also depends on who repairs your phone and if they check that or not, so is really just rolling the dice.
Lol...I guess you're right.....
I'm gonna root this beast anyway, it's just that it would have been good to get a watertight legal perspective first......
It's a shame that the legal profession seems to have little interest in rooting their phones.....
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Here's a screen shot of an email I just sent to Samsung UK......
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
It'll be interesting to see what (if any) reply I get from them.......
I'll update here if/when they do reply......
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If you follow the steps of the tutorial here on the s5 section of xda you shouldn't have a problem with knox. I rooted my s5 and it didn't trip knox, the only thing that changed was the status from "oficial" to "custom", but after reflash a stock rom on odin and not rooting it, it went back to saying "official", so they can't claim i rooted the phone.
So, as long as you keep stock (not custom recovery and custom roms) and just root following the steps on the tutorial, it should be fine.
Many of the big companies use root detection systems and don't support root and they use that to decide if they fix the phone or not. Most of the times the problem is unrelated to software but they still claim it. Its a bit of a grey are and depends on the company. I do remember reading that there were some countries where root was considered legal and i think the UK was one of them, so i might get a positive reply from them but im not sure.
Are you talking about this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648
If so, I already tried towelroot and it failed, which means I have to downgrade to an earlier version of the OS in order to root.....The only trouble with that being that I looked on sammobile and there didn't appear to be an earlier OS from my carrier.......
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No, this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044
That's the one i followed without flag knox. If towelroot didn't give you knox 0x1, then you can try that method to keep 0x0 when you root.
Ah ok cheers mate.......
So let me see if I've got this right......
First the build and baseband numbers on my phone both say ANG2.
So.......
1) Odin (3.09) flash ANE2 kernel.
2) Reboot, install towelroot and root
3) Reboot into download mode and reflash ANG2 kernel.
4) Reboot as normal.
No data wipes required?
Won't re flashing the original kernel kill root?
Can I use mobile odin to re flash the original kernel?
Edit.......just had a thought, could the flash kernel that mobile odin uses trigger KNOX?
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Ah.....don't think it's gonna work mate.....just put my glasses on and had a closer read......
It says to have towelroot installed before flashing the temporary kernel......
I can't even get towelroot to install.....Every time I try I get a pop up box appearing that says something about security. If I press install anyway, it simply fails........
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keithross39 said:
Ah ok cheers mate.......
So let me see if I've got this right......
First the build and baseband numbers on my phone both say ANG2.
So.......
1) Odin (3.09) flash ANE2 kernel.
2) Reboot, install towelroot and root
3) Reboot into download mode and reflash ANG2 kernel.
4) Reboot as normal.
No data wipes required?
Won't re flashing the original kernel kill root?
Can I use mobile odin to re flash the original kernel?
Edit.......just had a thought, could the flash kernel that mobile odin uses trigger KNOX?
Sent from my SM-G900F
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That's it!
I don't remember making any wipes, so i don't think they are needed.I followed those stepsand the kernel didn't change the root.
I don't know if you can use mobile odin, i would use the pc version just to be sure.
Also don't forget these steps:
5. DISABLE REACTIVATION LOCK
6. IF YOUR DEVICE IS ENCRYPTED, DECRYPT IT
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That security warning is probably because you have the option to not allow unkown apps to install, which is on by default. Go to settings-security-tick unknown sources and untick app verification
Uh......probably being thick, but never seen this version of odin before. Which button do I click to insert the kernel?
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It's on the AP button and then find the kernel
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It's on the AP button and then find the kernel
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Ah ok fella......see you on the other side lol.
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@griffin_1 You sir, are a scholar and a gent........
Rooted and KNOX at 0x0......
Many many thanks........
Sent from my SM-G900F
No problem! Im glad it worked well for you also The devs behind the root and tutorial deserve props for giving us a way to fully enjoy our phone without compromise the warranty.
Enjoy the root freedom
Well.....The emails continue......
This is how Samsung replied to my email.....
And this is how I replied....
Just have to wait and see what happens now........
Samsung's final reply to me.......
I think it's pretty obvious that Samsung's policy is to "wash it's hands" of anybody who modifies their phones........
sent from my rooted Kn0x0 SM-G900f
Keep us posted on their reply. But honestly i don't think it will change much from the "it voids the warranty" claim they like to use