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[Q} ODIN and stock Firmware Update (wth knox)

I updated 3 weeks ago to BTU MH8 with knox components and all is perfect., Knox warranty 0x00....
Since my phone originally was ITV (Italy) I'd like to recover the original CSC to ITV with the new firmare ITV MHB released today.
Is there any problem, with knox installed, to flash MHB with Odin? I'm going to sell my S4 and I prefer to return it to the original status.
Thank you
Umberto

umberto.sulla said:
I updated 3 weeks ago to BTU MH8 with knox components and all is perfect., Knox warranty 0x00....
Since my phone originally was ITV (Italy) I'd like to recover the original CSC to ITV with the new firmare ITV MHB released today.
Is there any problem, with knox installed, to flash MHB with Odin? I'm going to sell my S4 and I prefer to return it to the original status.
Thank you
Umberto
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I would like to know if you can flash with KNOX (using ODIN)?

Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..

DjeMBeY said:
Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..
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Thank you for you isimple answer... I only want to be sure that changing CSC from BTU to DTM to ITV etc (going ahead with fw versions) is allowed ...
I don't want to brick my device

DjeMBeY said:
Guys, all NEW FW's have KNOX on-board and most important the NEW irreversible Bootloader.
You can flash new FW through Odin but it MUST be newer or the same version as your current build.
For example, if you're using XXUDMH8 then you can flash ONLY firmwares with XXU.. on the beginning and anything greater than ...MH8
You can use XXUDMHB as it's newer FW.. it goes from 1-9 and A-Z..
Simple as that..
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Are you 100% sure about that?
I heard once you have KNOX warranty void 0x1 then no matter what firmware you're trying to flash Odin will fail. Even if it's a newer firmware.
I hope you're right and they're wrong.

Obagleyfreer said:
Are you 100% sure about that?
I heard once you have KNOX warranty void 0x1 then no matter what firmware you're trying to flash Odin will fail. Even if it's a newer firmware.
I hope you're right and they're wrong.
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??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1

DjeMBeY said:
??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1
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Ok, updated to MHB through Odin and no problem.
Status Knox Warranty still 0x00

umberto.sulla said:
Ok, updated to MHB through Odin and no problem.
Status Knox Warranty still 0x00
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Yeah, DO NOT flash any Custom Recovery nor Root and your status will stay at 0x0..
You can flash any newer FW but think twice as you can't go back if you don't like it...

No knox voice in my download mode:
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is it hidden or is normal until you flash the new knox bootloader?

Diomorgan said:
No knox voice in my download mode:
....
is it hidden or is normal until you flash the new knox bootloader?
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You have OLD bootloader, no KNOX in it... You're safe for now..
BTW, your Download Mode will look different after you flash new FW..

DjeMBeY said:
You have OLD bootloader, no KNOX in it... You're safe for now..
BTW, your Download Mode will look different after you flash new FW..
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Thank you for the fast answer, so I'll wait untill you'll release the superslim MI1 to keep my old bootloader

Do you have any picture for the new knox counter on the bootloader of MH8?

mkh.mourad said:
Do you have any picture for the new knox counter on the bootloader of MH8?
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It's NOT a counter, it's flag, stays at 0x1 no matter how many times you flash..
here is the picture http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45877809&postcount=108

DjeMBeY said:
It's NOT a counter, it's flag, stays at 0x1 no matter how many times you flash..
here is the picture http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45877809&postcount=108
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hmmmmm
That's a great problem. I stay using my UBMGA firmware.

DjeMBeY said:
??? What are you talking about??
I've got KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x1 and no probs at all, you can flash whatever you want through Odin (same or upwards FW's ONLY)
My KNOX Status got messed up while installing MGG and now I'm running pre-rooted XXUDMI1
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But you didn't flash the bootloader, did you?
So if you have new bootloader and knox 0x1 status you can still flash stock firmware in Odin and run it fine, even with stock kernel?

mkh.mourad said:
hmmmmm
That's a great problem. I stay using my UBMGA firmware.
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You can install latest XXUDMI1 but CWM version as bootloader won't be flashed..
Obagleyfreer said:
But you didn't flash the bootloader, did you?
So if you have new bootloader and knox 0x1 status you can still flash stock firmware in Odin and run it fine, even with stock kernel?
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I'm using pre-rooted MI1 (Odin version) with latest bootloader so yes, you can.
@ both of you
Check my thread in Development section for more informations

Thanks

On the S3 if I used MobileOdin to flash a new Rom it wouldn't update the bootloader. Can someone confirm the same is true on the S4?
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DjeMBeY said:
You can install latest XXUDMI1 but CWM version as bootloader won't be flashed..
I'm using pre-rooted MI1 (Odin version) with latest bootloader so yes, you can.
@ both of you
Check my thread in Development section for more informations
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Awesome thanks dude, and we can find this Mi1 firmware in your thread?

Painman1963 said:
On the S3 if I used MobileOdin to flash a new Rom it wouldn't update the bootloader. Can someone confirm the same is true on the S4?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4
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That would probably be an instant KNOX warranty void due to the fact that Mobile ODIN only runs on rooted devices...
But I'm not gonna experiment with it due to the uncertainty of it...

[Q] need your help to root N9005 and upgrade it

I just got my note N9005 today , details as attached
I need 2 important things
root for my root apps
custom recovery CWM to have Nand backup and restore options
According to readings there r 2 ways to root
1 - Universal Root de la Vega which offer [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA, and when u flash CWM u lose also [KNOX 0x0]
2 - CF-Auto-Root which with u lose [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA
and I think when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state (right?)
Am I right so far?
Ok, now when I started my phone with Kies, I found that there is firmware upgrade is available to my phone as the attached pic, should i root first then upgrade or upgrade then root (i used to use mobile odin pro to inject the root during flashing a new stock rom to keep the root)
If i upgrade via Kies would I lose my apps, settings, data and root (upgrade will wipe), I know that OTA will keep every thing but not sure about root?
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thermax04 said:
I just got my note N9005 today , details as attached
I need 2 important things
root for my root apps
custom recovery CWM to have Nand backup and restore options
According to readings there r 2 ways to root
1 - Universal Root de la Vega which offer [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA, and when u flash CWM u lose also [KNOX 0x0]
2 - CF-Auto-Root which with u lose [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA
and I think when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state (right?)
Am I right so far?
Ok, now when I started my phone with Kies, I found that there is firmware upgrade is available to my phone as the attached pic, should i root first then upgrade or upgrade then root (i used to use mobile odin pro to inject the root during flashing a new stock rom to keep the root)
If i upgrade via Kies would I lose my apps, settings, data and root (upgrade will wipe), I know that OTA will keep every thing but not sure about root?
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you will only lose root ,but after you download the update it problem wont install because of root

jaythenut said:
you will only lose root
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do u mean that if i upgrade via kies I will lose root?
jaythenut said:
but after you download the update it problem wont install because of root
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do not understand what u mean!!

thermax04 said:
do u mean that if i upgrade via kies I will lose root?
do not understand what u mean!!
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Yes if you update with kies you will lose root

jaythenut said:
Yes if you update with kies you will lose root
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ok, should i upgrade first then root?

thermax04 said:
ok, should i upgrade first then root?
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Just check there's a root for the new firmware then you are good to go

thermax04 said:
I just got my note N9005 today , details as attached
I need 2 important things
root for my root apps
custom recovery CWM to have Nand backup and restore options
According to readings there r 2 ways to root
1 - Universal Root de la Vega which offer [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA, and when u flash CWM u lose also [KNOX 0x0]
2 - CF-Auto-Root which with u lose [KNOX 0x0] and non official rom so u lose OTA
and I think when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state (right?)
Am I right so far?
Ok, now when I started my phone with Kies, I found that there is firmware upgrade is available to my phone as the attached pic, should i root first then upgrade or upgrade then root (i used to use mobile odin pro to inject the root during flashing a new stock rom to keep the root)
If i upgrade via Kies would I lose my apps, settings, data and root (upgrade will wipe), I know that OTA will keep every thing but not sure about root?
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Do 1. URDLV first on your current (MJ1) firmware version to get root without tripping knox. If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader & will trip knox.
Then update to MJ7 using mobile odin pro 3.85 with a downloaded firmware from sammobile.com
Doing nandroid means installing a custom recovery which would currently trigger knox - no way around this atm. I also want to flash custom recovery and roms, but I'm waiting a couple of months in case a knox-safe method is found.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

dsm52 said:
Do 1. URDLV first on your current (MJ1) firmware version to get root without tripping knox. If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader & will trip knox.
Then update to MJ7 using mobile odin pro 3.85 with a downloaded firmware from sammobile.com
Doing nandroid means installing a custom recovery which would currently trigger knox - no way around this atm. I also want to flash custom recovery and roms, but I'm waiting a couple of months in case a knox-safe method is found.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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Can u explain what u mean by : If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader
Can u confirm with yes or no: when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state and [KNOX 0x0], after flashing a custom recovery

Custom roms can be installed knox safe
kn0x0ut script
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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thermax04 said:
Can u explain what u mean by : If you update to MJ7 first you will get a locked bootloader
Can u confirm with yes or no: when u flash a stock rom u go back to 100% official state and [KNOX 0x0], after flashing a custom recovery
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Once Knox is tripped there is NO WAY to reset atm.... You can flash anything you want because it isn't changing to 0x0 again, currently...
Installing root through URDLV WON'Trip knox warranty if you are on MJ1 firmware. As soon as you upgrade your firmware to MJ7 you get a root unfriendly bootloader. Doesn't matter what you use it will trigger Knox 0x1 permanently.
If you root at MJ1 then use Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade to MJ7 you should be able to go back to MJ1 easily and not have Knox triggered as MOP doesn't flash bootloaders.

ultramag69 said:
Once Knox is tripped there is NO WAY to reset atm.... You can flash anything you want because it isn't changing to 0x0 again, currently...
Installing root through URDLV WON'Trip knox warranty if you are on MJ1 firmware. As soon as you upgrade your firmware to MJ7 you get a root unfriendly bootloader. Doesn't matter what you use it will trigger Knox 0x1 permanently.
If you root at MJ1 then use Mobile ODIN Pro to upgrade to MJ7 you should be able to go back to MJ1 easily and not have Knox triggered as MOP doesn't flash bootloaders.
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Thank u all
Ok, I got it now
Found 2 threads regarding URDLV method, one of them is closed and rooting files are removed, although most of explanation s were about it, second one is a little confusing to me, can u support me here how 2 do it

thermax04 said:
Thank u all
Ok, I got it now
Found 2 threads regarding URBAN method, one of them is closed and rooting files are removed, although most of explanation s were about it, second one is a little confusing to me, can u support me here how 2 do it
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Sure i can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47390175
Will this work? - Sure look at all those who thanked me for this + i supported many german guys with PM + i did it myself and look at my signature
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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Killberty said:
Sure i can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47390175
Will this work? - Sure look at all those who thanked me for this + i supported many german guys with PM + i did it myself and look at my signature
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
SM-N9005 DBT-DMJ7 0x0
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iam familiar with rooting and flashing, but never seen something like this before, looks very complicated 2 me, needs alot of concentration, will go through it after finish work, or find an easier solution

thermax04 said:
iam familiar with rooting and flashing, but never seen something like this before, looks very complicated 2 me, needs alot of concentration, will go through it after finish work, or find an easier solution
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Cmon bro
This is very easy, just follow the steps as decribed - many ppl who never had an android before made it and thanked me and said it was easy
hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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Reset Knox Counter - SM-N900 Exynos

Hello,
i have SM-N900 Galaxy Note 3 with Exynos processor, i got this phone around 6 months or more. In these past 6 months, i never root doing any tweaks with Odin / any other HH tweaker because i dont have the courage to do so. I want to root it since i have this phone, but knowing there is Knox tripping and such, i never try to root.
And then, i just read some articles to check out your Knox warranty, because i'm curious about 'if' there is any Knox Warranty void on Exynos version, i tried to install Phone Info - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo - and then i checked out, my Knox warranty void is 0x1.
I also getting inside Odin Mode, and the Knox warranty Void is 1, but my Phone status is Samsung Official, the rest is Official.
I read this helpful post to reset KNOX counter on SM-N900: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52329946&nocache=1 , on those steps, it said it needs to flash Stock ROM to remove the Custom status of your device to back into Official, after you flash the bootloader for resetting Knox warranty void.
Question:
1) I wonder, can we only go through the 1st step, just only flash the bootloader with odin to my Galaxy note 3, only to reset the Knox warranty void back to 0, without flashing the stock Rom afterwards? because i don't want to wipe out my phone and lost all my data (I know i can backup it via Kies), and my phone status is already Official.
2) Does flashing the bootloader itself, will wipe your data inside your phone?
Thanks before for any answers!

Hello, sorry for bumping my thread, just hope someone can answer the questions

djangosteen said:
Hello, sorry for bumping my thread, just hope someone can answer the questions
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if i am not wrong ... and as i used to do with note 1 back then
installing a stock rom over another stock rom does not require to wipe data but maybe this is different since u have to flash a bootloader
sorry ... i know i did not help much

Its imposible to reset Knox from 0x1 to 0x0. Unfortunately.

passenger77 said:
if i am not wrong ... and as i used to do with note 1 back then
installing a stock rom over another stock rom does not require to wipe data but maybe this is different since u have to flash a bootloader
sorry ... i know i did not help much
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So it won't remove my data at all?
verny94 said:
Its imposible to reset Knox from 0x1 to 0x0. Unfortunately.
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Only SM-N900 device working, other version like SM-N9005 isn't working (link provided above is already tested), i tried to PM that guy who does the trick, but still no respond.

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djangosteen said:
So it won't remove my data at all?
as i said .. if u install a stock rom over another one . u dont have to wie data at all and u wont lose any thing ..
but since u gona use another file with the stock rom (( the bootloader )))
u better see the steps for this way .. maybe it is require ti wipe and format .
better ask the man who wrote that ........
Only SM-N900 device working, other version like SM-N9005 isn't working (link provided above is already tested), i tried to PM that guy who does the trick, but still no respond.
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RuchRha has given all the instruction in his thread...just follow them...also check my post in q&a section...you may need the official firmware with bootloader file.
Sent from my SM-N900 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

so....if I reset knox counter and put everything to official will it reset my flash counter?and will I bee able to use knox again??

This guy is resetting knox back to 0x0 on he's exynos note 3. Looks real, should it work on a snapdragon note 3?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vmvuixd3LY

TonyM77 said:
This guy is resetting knox back to 0x0 on he's exynos note 3. Looks real, should it work on a snapdragon note 3?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vmvuixd3LY
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No
Sent from my leanKernel 3.13 powered stock 4.4.2 (NF9) SM-N900T

Hey to me it seems that it does not factory reset the device until you have to move on to the the step
See this link: http://blog.flexispy.com/how-to-downgrade-a-samsung-galaxy-note-3-from-os-4-4-2-to-4-3/
Scroll down to where they begin flashing the bootloader itself. They instruct you to wipe after the bootloader is flashed.
Only way to find to find out is to just do it.
How did Kox get tripped btw? You said you never rooted mainly because of that reason.
If it is already tripped you should just root it, install cwm, do a nandroid backup and try the method in the second link you posted.
So if it fails you just recover your nandroid backup and back to square one.
Hope this helps!

How to root 4.4.2 (DDUBNK1)

Hey all...
I was trying to root my grand 2 (4.4.2-build number: DDUBNK1)
I have downloaded all required files... But when i boot in download mode my phone shows
System status: official
Knox warranty void :0x0
Qualcomm secureboot: enable (csb)
So please tell me if i flash recovery will it increase knox counter and what do secureboot means???
How to disable knox??
Please guide me with correct method to root my phone... Thanks a lot
Sent from my C1904 using XDA Free mobile app

there is no way to without knocking the knox counter
if you root your mobile the knox show 0×1 and also there noway to remove knox if you try to remove knox it may cause hard brick your mobile
if you want to root your mobile than use cf root but after root your mobile warrenty become void
and if you know about triangle way app then it only help you to change the device status custom to official and reset the binary to 0 but it not able to reset the knox counter....

android_smater said:
there is no way to without knocking the knox counter
if you root your mobile the knox show 0×1 and also there noway to remove knox if you try to remove knox it may cause hard brick your mobile
if you want to root your mobile than use cf root but after root your mobile warrenty become void
and if you know about triangle way app then it only help you to change the device status custom to official and reset the binary to 0 but it not able to reset the knox counter....
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I am on indian nk1....but i have heard that nk2 of other regions do not have knox...
So can i flash nk2 on my nk1??
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you can do it but remeber android version will be the same and also the knox is now install on bootloader so cannot remove it but flash with other version of rom may casue brick your phone
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and flashing with other country vesrion then your phone will show invalid IMEI no.

android_smater said:
you can do it but remeber android version will be the same and also the knox is now install on bootloader so cannot remove it but flash with other version of rom may casue brick your phone
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and flashing with other country vesrion then your phone will show invalid IMEI no.
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Damn....
Any other alternative you know of??
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there is no way..... sorry

Hey bro i yesterday rooted my grand2 (DDUBNK1) with cwm recovery beta NG2...
but when i try to install philz touch recovery it goes into boot loop....is there any solution??

KNOX.....How will it affect me?

Hi, my phone is less than a week old, I want to root it in order to debloat it initially, but with the possibility of at some point going totally custom.
Now I know there's virtually no way of modifying without tripping KNOX (towelroot does not work with my OS release)......what I need are some clear answers (I've seen a lot of conflicting information) as to what tripping KNOX will mean for the device....
So here are my questions....
1) if I go fully custom, will I be able to return to full stock with Odin?
2) if I return to full stock, will I be able to receive OTA updates?
3) with a tripped device, will I see a KNOX message on normal start up of the phone?
4) is my warranty totally screwed even If I have a totally unrelated hardware issue?
5) is EU Regulation (1999/44/CE) ANY REAL help, or can manufacturers interpret it in their favor?
Thanks in advance......Keith.
Sent from my SM-G900F

keithross39 said:
Hi, my phone is less than a week old, I want to root it in order to debloat it initially, but with the possibility of at some point going totally custom.
Now I know there's virtually no way of modifying without tripping KNOX (towelroot does not work with my OS release)......what I need are some clear answers (I've seen a lot of conflicting information) as to what tripping KNOX will mean for the device....
So here are my questions....
1) if I go fully custom, will I be able to return to full stock with Odin?
2) if I return to full stock, will I be able to receive OTA updates?
3) with a tripped device, will I see a KNOX message on normal start up of the phone?
4) is my warranty totally screwed even If I have a totally unrelated hardware issue?
5) is EU Regulation (1999/44/CE) ANY REAL help, or can manufacturers interpret it in their favor?
Thanks in advance......Keith.
Sent from my SM-G900F
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1) Yes, you just need to download firmware from sammobile and flash it with Odin
2) By going to fully custom you trip knox to 0x1 and theoretically you can`t get OTA updates but I received it after I had knox 0x1 and on fully stock ROM
3) No
4) Yes if you send it to Samsung service
5) I don`t even know what that is

Thank you for your reply.....
Number 5 is an EU ruling that covers consumer protection and statutory warranty and it *appears* to contradict what Samsung says about KNOX voiding warranty.....The thing is, I'm not a lawyer so I can't be 100% certain......
Sent from my SM-G900F

Honestly i don't know if that EU rulling has any real application or at least it doesn't in every country because Samsung or their repair centers will check for knox and will use that excuse to avoid fixing the phone under warranty for something that a rom or mod wouldn't cause.
But it also depends on who repairs your phone and if they check that or not, so is really just rolling the dice.

Lol...I guess you're right.....
I'm gonna root this beast anyway, it's just that it would have been good to get a watertight legal perspective first......
It's a shame that the legal profession seems to have little interest in rooting their phones.....
Sent from my SM-G900F

Here's a screen shot of an email I just sent to Samsung UK......
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It'll be interesting to see what (if any) reply I get from them.......
I'll update here if/when they do reply......
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If you follow the steps of the tutorial here on the s5 section of xda you shouldn't have a problem with knox. I rooted my s5 and it didn't trip knox, the only thing that changed was the status from "oficial" to "custom", but after reflash a stock rom on odin and not rooting it, it went back to saying "official", so they can't claim i rooted the phone.
So, as long as you keep stock (not custom recovery and custom roms) and just root following the steps on the tutorial, it should be fine.
Many of the big companies use root detection systems and don't support root and they use that to decide if they fix the phone or not. Most of the times the problem is unrelated to software but they still claim it. Its a bit of a grey are and depends on the company. I do remember reading that there were some countries where root was considered legal and i think the UK was one of them, so i might get a positive reply from them but im not sure.

Are you talking about this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699648
If so, I already tried towelroot and it failed, which means I have to downgrade to an earlier version of the OS in order to root.....The only trouble with that being that I looked on sammobile and there didn't appear to be an earlier OS from my carrier.......
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No, this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-triggering-knox-2nd-method-t2843044
That's the one i followed without flag knox. If towelroot didn't give you knox 0x1, then you can try that method to keep 0x0 when you root.

Ah ok cheers mate.......
So let me see if I've got this right......
First the build and baseband numbers on my phone both say ANG2.
So.......
1) Odin (3.09) flash ANE2 kernel.
2) Reboot, install towelroot and root
3) Reboot into download mode and reflash ANG2 kernel.
4) Reboot as normal.
No data wipes required?
Won't re flashing the original kernel kill root?
Can I use mobile odin to re flash the original kernel?
Edit.......just had a thought, could the flash kernel that mobile odin uses trigger KNOX?
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Ah.....don't think it's gonna work mate.....just put my glasses on and had a closer read......
It says to have towelroot installed before flashing the temporary kernel......
I can't even get towelroot to install.....Every time I try I get a pop up box appearing that says something about security. If I press install anyway, it simply fails........
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keithross39 said:
Ah ok cheers mate.......
So let me see if I've got this right......
First the build and baseband numbers on my phone both say ANG2.
So.......
1) Odin (3.09) flash ANE2 kernel.
2) Reboot, install towelroot and root
3) Reboot into download mode and reflash ANG2 kernel.
4) Reboot as normal.
No data wipes required?
Won't re flashing the original kernel kill root?
Can I use mobile odin to re flash the original kernel?
Edit.......just had a thought, could the flash kernel that mobile odin uses trigger KNOX?
Sent from my SM-G900F
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That's it!
I don't remember making any wipes, so i don't think they are needed.I followed those stepsand the kernel didn't change the root.
I don't know if you can use mobile odin, i would use the pc version just to be sure.
Also don't forget these steps:
5. DISABLE REACTIVATION LOCK
6. IF YOUR DEVICE IS ENCRYPTED, DECRYPT IT
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That security warning is probably because you have the option to not allow unkown apps to install, which is on by default. Go to settings-security-tick unknown sources and untick app verification

Uh......probably being thick, but never seen this version of odin before. Which button do I click to insert the kernel?
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It's on the AP button and then find the kernel

griffin_1 said:
It's on the AP button and then find the kernel
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Ah ok fella......see you on the other side lol.
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@griffin_1 You sir, are a scholar and a gent........
Rooted and KNOX at 0x0......
Many many thanks........
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No problem! Im glad it worked well for you also The devs behind the root and tutorial deserve props for giving us a way to fully enjoy our phone without compromise the warranty.
Enjoy the root freedom

Well.....The emails continue......
This is how Samsung replied to my email.....
And this is how I replied....
Just have to wait and see what happens now........

Samsung's final reply to me.......
I think it's pretty obvious that Samsung's policy is to "wash it's hands" of anybody who modifies their phones........
sent from my rooted Kn0x0 SM-G900f

Keep us posted on their reply. But honestly i don't think it will change much from the "it voids the warranty" claim they like to use