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[Q] ODIN flashing older rom.

Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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Do not do this. This will brick your phone. If I am not mistaken, there is a method to unlock mk2 in the general section.
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zee24 said:
Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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You should ask this in the t mobile s4 forum. I believe your bootloader is unlocked and you can flash an older firmware version. But check there first. This is the att s4 forum. It can't be done on the at&t s4.

Is the service menu missing on the stock T-mo 4.3 ?

Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?

zee24 said:
Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040

jd1639 said:
If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?

zee24 said:
I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
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Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.

jd1639 said:
Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
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Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?

zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Idk, I'm not that familiar with your device. From the little bit of reading I've done I would say no, you can't flash an older firmware. But again, I'd post this question in the t mobile forum. They'd be more familiar with your device.

zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would.
You would have know by checking in settings under SE

hednik said:
Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would. You would have know by checking in settings under SE
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I remember i soft bricked my phone one time and had to flash my firmware but the 4.3 latest one from sammobile and after i did that i got knox but i believe i already tripped the knox counter because in download mode it says 0x1 so i guess i cant?

Knox tripped device can't install any rom from recovery.

Hi all.
I have gt-i9505 and somehow I tripped knox efuse.
Now when i try to install any custom rom from cwm (flashed with odin) I get soft-brick I.e. bootloop where device is stuck on samsung logo.
If i try to flash modem (reception sux) and put device to sleep it disables 3G and wifi. Only restarting or manually reseting APN helps to restore 3G connection.
Flashing original roms with odin works fine.
Any help on installing custom rom or flashing modems will be highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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Mifodiy said:
Hi all.
I have gt-i9505 and somehow I tripped knox efuse.
Now when i try to install any custom rom from cwm (flashed with odin) I get soft-brick I.e. bootloop where device is stuck on samsung logo.
If i try to flash modem (reception sux) and put device to sleep it disables 3G and wifi. Only restarting or manually reseting APN helps to restore 3G connection.
Flashing original roms with odin works fine.
Any help on installing custom rom or flashing modems will be highly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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Meant to reply instead of thank. Sorry!
You need to flash a 4.4.2 or 4.3 tar through ODIN. This will restore your phone but knox will of course remain tripped. Make sure you flash a radio for knox bootloader (4.4.2 or 4.3). I`m guessing you are using a radio for old bootloader. That is why you are getting these issues.
Once your phone is working, flash CF auto root in ODIN, then download ROM manager and flash CWM for your device (ie jfltexx if you have international version). Then

Thanks for quick reply.
One more stupid question:
How can I distinguish between radios for knox bootloader and regular ones?
I asuume it is in the radio name, but where?
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Mifodiy said:
Thanks for quick reply.
One more stupid question:
How can I distinguish between radios for knox bootloader and regular ones?
I asuume it is in the radio name, but where?
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Hi, first of all, download terminal emulator from playstore. Open it and type:
su (hit enter)
getprop ro.bootloader (hit enter)
It shows you a firmware version. Let's say, the last letters are NB8 for example. This means you are ready on the NB8 bootloader. So you need also the NB8 modem (baseband).

Hate to jack the thread but judging from what i am reading, there is a way to enjoy custom recovery and custom rom with knox tripped.
Sorry again but this knox thing is new to me and preventing me from customizing my device sch-i435 the sgs4mini verizon but being its the little version of the big boy I figured someone could enlighten me real quick. thanks and srry for the thread jack.

Yes there is no problem to install custom recovery. However custom rom has proved to be pain it tha A until now. I will try installing 4.4.2 by omega or wanam this weekend and update on how it went.
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justlovejoy said:
Hate to jack the thread but judging from what i am reading, there is a way to enjoy custom recovery and custom rom with knox tripped.
Sorry again but this knox thing is new to me and preventing me from customizing my device sch-i435 the sgs4mini verizon but being its the little version of the big boy I figured someone could enlighten me real quick. thanks and srry for the thread jack.
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As I mentioned before:
No problem flashing custom recovery.
Also I just flashed Omega v24 custom rom based on original 4.4.2 and it works perfectly.
Apparently the problem was I was trying to install custom roms that didn't support new bootloader, which tripped my knox efuse in the first place.
For future reference: if you flashing knox enabled bootloader it will trip the efuse and void your warranty, but imho it totally worth it.
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[Q] How to root Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 4.4.2 kitkat

Hello guys, I'd like to ask on how to root my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 kitkat 4.4.2 XXUENC2. I tried many root methods already but none of them work, maybe they are old already or outdated. So, Guys. If you know any root method that might work please kindly reply here below and I'll give you a +Rep and a Cookie.

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RazerKnight17 said:
Hello guys, I'd like to ask on how to root my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 kitkat 4.4.2 XXUENC2. I tried many root methods already but none of them work, maybe they are old already or outdated. So, Guys. If you know any root method that might work please kindly reply here below and I'll give you a +Rep and a Cookie.
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Tried towelroof before?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157

Towelroot v3 4.4.2 kk
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RazerKnight17 said:
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CF Auto Root for N9005 worked for me
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Hope It Helps

Any root method without tripping knox?
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3kgt said:
Any root method without tripping knox?
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Maybe try Mobile Odin Pro 3.85
Here is a link that might give you some help
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2522729

Qns on ROMs
Hi Guys,
My SM-9005 kitkat 4.4.2 kernel 3.4.0-1703205 baseband N9005DXUENE3 was rooted with Towelroot and I've checked with rootchecker, it says that I have root access. However in my phone's download page my system status remain as "official" instead of "custom". Is my device rooted properly? or Is this normal?
1) How to install custom recovery compatible with my device?
2) Currently my Knox remain as 0x0, will the process of installing a custom ROM trip Knox by any chance?
3) Are launchers only compatible with stock ROMs and not custom ROMs?
4) Currently what are the top Stock & Custom ROMs compatible with my device? (If I'm focusing more on games,performance, batt life and very low usage of S pen).
Thanks in advance!

Mouzai said:
Hi Guys,
My SM-9005 kitkat 4.4.2 kernel 3.4.0-1703205 baseband N9005DXUENE3 was rooted with Towelroot and I've checked with rootchecker, it says that I have root access. However in my phone's download page my system status remain as "official" instead of "custom". Is my device rooted properly? or Is this normal?
1) How to install custom recovery compatible with my device?
2) Currently my Knox remain as 0x0, will the process of installing a custom ROM trip Knox by any chance?
3) Are launchers only compatible with stock ROMs and not custom ROMs?
4) Currently what are the top Stock & Custom ROMs compatible with my device? (If I'm focusing more on games,performance, batt life and very low usage of S pen).
Thanks in advance!
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Search before you ask for help. All these have been answered many times in this very forum.
Official or custom system status has nothing to do with rooting.
Find custom recovery from development section and flash it with Odin.
Custom ROM does not trip KNOX, but flashing custom recovery and/or kernel will.
What launchers you have in mind? Stock TouchWiz ones might only work on stock(-based) ROMs. Third-party launchers should work on all ROMs, though exceptions can occur.
There is no best ROM. Try different ROMs ones, see yourself what is best. A ROM may be best for one, worst for other.
Also - If you don't care about the journey of Android ROMs, you are not supposed to be here.

Mouzai said:
Hi Guys,
My SM-9005 kitkat 4.4.2 kernel 3.4.0-1703205 baseband N9005DXUENE3 was rooted with Towelroot and I've checked with rootchecker, it says that I have root access. However in my phone's download page my system status remain as "official" instead of "custom". Is my device rooted properly? or Is this normal?
1) How to install custom recovery compatible with my device?
2) Currently my Knox remain as 0x0, will the process of installing a custom ROM trip Knox by any chance?
3) Are launchers only compatible with stock ROMs and not custom ROMs?
4) Currently what are the top Stock & Custom ROMs compatible with my device? (If I'm focusing more on games,performance, batt life and very low usage of S pen).
Thanks in advance!
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Hey mate! That's the advantage of towelroot. You are rooted without tripping knox warranty or changing the status to custom. In other words, you could still get OTA updates when it's available eventhough you're rooted
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3kgt said:
Any root method without tripping knox?
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Towelroot. Developed by geohot. The badass guy who developed jailbreaking in ios.
Download / Install the apk
Click the "make it rain" button
You are rooted!
Check knox still 0x0. Status still samsung official means u cn still get ota updates.
Cheers.
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Someguyfromhell said:
Search before you ask for help. All these have been answered many times in this very forum.
Official or custom system status has nothing to do with rooting.
Find custom recovery from development section and flash it with Odin.
Custom ROM does not trip KNOX, but flashing custom recovery and/or kernel will.
What launchers you have in mind? Stock TouchWiz ones might only work on stock(-based) ROMs. Third-party launchers should work on all ROMs, though exceptions can occur.
There is no best ROM. Try different ROMs ones, see yourself what is best. A ROM may be best for one, worst for other.
Also - If you don't care about the journey of Android ROMs, you are not supposed to be here.
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Hi,
Thanks for your clarification, still a bit confused though, and I don't understand you by "If you don't care about the journey of Android ROMs, you are not supposed to be here". Please don't feel offended as I'm new & total noob to the root & the ROM "world". FYI, I did search & read up the internet for information but I don't understand most of it. Thus I'm seeking help here.
1) In order to install & flash any Custom ROM, one must have custom recovery for back up first right? Since by flashing a custom recovery will trip Knox, then why do so many people (including me) trying so hard to find a way to root our devices without tripping Knox in the first place?
2) Does custom ROMs & kernels comes separately and not together? For example, I can install custom rom A and flashing kernel B from custom rom B or other sources?
3) Are there ways to customize or modify my device e.g Changing boot up animation, overclocking the processor, changing batt logo etc... while rooted and running on original ROM?

[Q] So I just bought my S4..

Hi everyone. I just bought my SGS4 today (i9505) and I want to know how to proceed before messing around. I searched a lot on the forums and on the internet but I can't figure out what to do.
I'm currently on 4.2.2 and I'd like to flash a custom rom without voiding the knox counter. How should I do?
Thanks in advance

kGospel said:
Hi everyone. I just bought my SGS4 today (i9505) and I want to know how to proceed before messing around. I searched a lot on the forums and on the internet but I can't figure out what to do.
I'm currently on 4.2.2 and I'd like to flash a custom rom without voiding the knox counter. How should I do?
Thanks in advance
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
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DarkerTimes said:
Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
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Ok so.. Before rooting with Towelroot, should I upgrade to the latest available firmware? Also, once I want to go back to stock, how should I do?

kGospel said:
Ok so.. Before rooting with Towelroot, should I upgrade to the latest available firmware? Also, once I want to go back to stock, how should I do?
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Sry I've read you are on Version 4.4.2. My mistake.
So you currently run Android 4.2.2. Do you have the Knox bootloader already? It is inverted to all firmware builds MGG or higher.
When you don't have the Knox bootloader you can flash everything you want to and you are still able to reset the counter with triangle away.
When you are on the new Knox bootloader i would recommend you to upgrade to the latest Android version and then use the link I posted.
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My build version ends with UDMGG so I believe I have knox. Before updating.. is it possible to revert to stock (for warranty pourposes) with the method you linked me?

kGospel said:
My build version ends with UDMGG so I believe I have knox. Before updating.. is it possible to revert to stock (for warranty pourposes) with the method you linked me?
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You can mess around by safely using custom roms without tripping knox to.
The i9505 supports that too.
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DeepankarS said:
You can mess around by safely using custom roms without tripping knox to.
The i9505 supports that too.
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What would I have to do in order to revert to stock? That's my question. Sorry if it wasn't clear before.

kGospel said:
What would I have to do in order to revert to stock? That's my question. Sorry if it wasn't clear before.
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Just flash stock rom via and youre done.
But remember once knox is tripped (0x1) you cannot make it okay.
That is why I said you can safely "mess around" with your i9505 by flashing custom roms without tripping knox.
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DeepankarS said:
Just flash stock rom via and youre done.
But remember once knox is tripped (0x1) you cannot make it okay.
That is why I said you can safely "mess around" with your i9505 by flashing custom roms without tripping knox.
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Thank you sir.. Just to clarify: I could use the same method to flash the stock image? If this is correct, could you provide a link to these stock images?
Sorry for being such hesitant, but I don't want to screw up with my warranty. At least, not yet.

kGospel said:
Thank you sir.. Just to clarify: I could use the same method to flash the stock image? If this is correct, could you provide a link to these stock images?
Sorry for being such hesitant, but I don't want to screw up with my warranty. At least, not yet.
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Stock Image as in?
Do you mean stock firmwares?
www.sammobile.com/firmwares
If you want to try custom roms without tripping knox..
Try this
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NEW Knox counter? 0x1 (2)

Hello everybody
This is my first thread here in XDA
I've installed 5.0 Lollipop Beta in my N9005 and it works snappy and fast. I've used this build for 3 or 4 complete cycles of battery and it really works very well. Now i've decided to install TWRP an SuperSU to delete some bloatware and in download mode I can see a new number in my Knox 0x1 counter (see pictures attached).
Anybody can explain to me what does it mean? Really it doesn't matter so much to me cause I've tripped my Knox from day one but I didn't know about this kind of counter
Any thoughts?
(sorry for my english)

Nothing on hard or software. Because you flashed a custom recovery you got 0x1 knox. You no longer have warrenty on your device....
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TonyM77 said:
Nothing on hard or software. Because you flashed a custom recovery you got 0x1 knox. You no longer have warrenty on your device....
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My friend I had 0x1 on JB and KK and now I have 0x1 (2) can you see the diference?
Have you flashed that Lollipop beta with odin and using pit?
I think this is all about new bootloader

I have a 3 there lol, still no warrenty left
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I flashed maybe 25 roms total, had different boatloaders, flashed much baseband etc...
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Ok I can confirm if you flash a 4 archives KK rom using Odin you "revert" to Knox 0x1
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I got the 5.0 TW flashed with odin, used pit and updated bootloader.. I still have 0x1

New flash counter i guess someone alert @Chainfire

I think it's the old "Custom Binary Download" counter that first appeared in the Galaxy S2 (if I'm not wrong). Someone should try Triangle Away to reset that counter. However, 0x1 will still remain active .
Edit: This is what I'm talking about.

Super-Veloce said:
I got the 5.0 TW flashed with odin, used pit and updated bootloader.. I still have 0x1
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This counter only gets started when you try to root or install recovery with Lollipop bootloader.

ionutzm05 said:
I think it's the old "Custom Binary Download" counter that first appeared in the Galaxy S2 (if I'm not wrong). Someone should try Triangle Away to reset that counter. However, 0x1 will still remain active .
Edit: This is what I'm talking about.
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I think this is not that kind of counter my friend. I've try to reset it with latest version of Triangle Away and it have broke my system. The only solution is to install and comebak to 4.4.2 again. Please don't try that until @Chainfire gets an answer.

Segamalaga said:
This counter only gets started when you try to root or install recovery with Lollipop bootloader.
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I have flashed a custom recovery and after that superSU 2.42
I had 0x1 before I flashed 5.0 TW with odin..
And before that I had temasek unofficial cm12 (and before that many other roms)

Super-Veloce said:
I have flashed a custom recovery and after that superSU 2.42
I had 0x1 before I flashed 5.0 TW with odin..
And before that I had temasek unofficial cm12 (and before that many other roms)
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Please answer this simple question:
In any moment did you installed Lollipop's bootloader?
Did you install the rom with .pit in Odin?

Segamalaga said:
Please answer this simple question:
In any moment did you installed Lollipop's bootloader?
Did you install the rom with .pit in Odin?
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Yes I used PIT and Yes I updated the lollipop bootloader
This is how I flashed the 5.0 Touchwiz

And you don't have root and recovery, do you?

hi ! any news about (2) knox counter ????

It's a new sort of Knox counter included in new Lollipop's bootloader. Right now you can come back to KK's one and it dissapears.

OK thanks ! I will return to 4.4.2 to see !!! ) Latest 4.4.2 or any 4.4.2 with bootloader ???

amosolidu said:
OK thanks ! I will return to 4.4.2 to see !!! ) Latest 4.4.2 or any 4.4.2 with bootloader ???
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reflashed 4.4.2 gn2 with bootloader and guess what???? nothing ....still knox warranty 0x1 (2)

You need to flash a 4 archives +pit rom. It worked for me

Segamalaga said:
You need to flash a 4 archives +pit rom. It worked for me
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it worked now after i format everything from twrp (firmware,modem......) and flash single file firmware (FNG2 I USE ) !!! thanks anyway