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[Q] downgrade from costum 4.3 to stock 4.2

Hello guys,
I recently flashed Wanamlite 3.0 and I wish to flash stock 4.2.2 .
what should I do to get it to work properly again? Doing that because I need to send the device to the lab. I want my phone as I bought it in the first day- unrooted.
thank you all.

royts2007 said:
Hello guys,
I recently flashed Wanamlite 3.0 and I wish to flash stock 4.2.2 .
what should I do to get it to work properly again? Doing that because I need to send the device to the lab. I want my phone as I bought it in the first day- unrooted.
thank you all.
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Hi,
Look HERE

malybru said:
Hi,
Look HERE
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I know the steps. Just wanted to know if its ok to flash stock 4.2 on 4.3
It helped

royts2007 said:
I know the steps. Just wanted to know if its ok to flash stock 4.2 on 4.3
It helped
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Hi,
You should be fine to flash 4.2.2 , if the ROM you are on does not contain the knox bootloader.

malybru said:
Hi,
You should be fine to flash 4.2.2 , if the ROM you are on does not contain the knox bootloader.
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And if it does?
What about the wanamlite 3.0 ? Does it contain the knox bootloader? I deleted al knox apps from System/apps with root file manager.
My device is i9500.

royts2007 said:
And if it does?
What about the wanamlite 3.0 ? Does it contain the knox bootloader? I deleted al knox apps from System/apps with root file manager.
My device is i9500.
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As long as your device did not come with bootloader, you can't have it unless you flashed official samsung firmware
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Williamharv said:
As long as your device did not come with bootloader, you can't have it unless you flashed official samsung firmware
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So no problem flash it?

nope. no problem. just make sure u didnt flash official samsung with knox

jarold143 said:
nope. no problem. just make sure u didnt flash official samsung with knox
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Before flashing wanamlite3.0 I flashed stock 4.3, russia. Its with knox..
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Well? Any comments? Simple question: is it ok to flash stock 4.2 on Wanamlite 3.0(4.3)? Before flashing Wanam i flashed stock 4.3(russia)

Yes. Wipe first though.

royts2007 said:
And if it does?
What about the wanamlite 3.0 ? Does it contain the knox bootloader? I deleted al knox apps from System/apps with root file manager.
My device is i9500.
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Try to go to download mode.. power+volume down+homebutton.. if you see words with knox 0x0 or 0x1 in the upper right corner of the screen then you got knox.. if none then your still in the old bootloader..
hope it helps..
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jserrano0628 said:
Try to go to download mode.. power+volume down+homebutton.. if you see words with knox 0x0 or 0x1 in the upper right corner of the screen then you got knox.. if none then your still in the old bootloader..
hope it helps..
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If you do not have knox try to revert back to stock.. by downloading stock firmware at SAMobile.com for your handset and country without knox.. and flash via odin..but make sure to reset flash counter first to make it official.. then after send it to the lab..

jserrano0628 said:
Try to go to download mode.. power+volume down+homebutton.. if you see words with knox 0x0 or 0x1 in the upper right corner of the screen then you got knox.. if none then your still in the old bootloader..
hope it helps..
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If you do not have knox try to revert back to stock.. by downloading stock firmware at SAMobile.com for your handset and country without knox.. and flash via odin..but make sure to reset flash counter first to make it official.. then after send it to the lab..
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You were very helpful. Thank you.

[Q] Triangle away doesn't reset flash counter. Please help

I have galaxy s4 and wanted to reset flash counter with triangle away . After doing all the steps and I rebooted the phone the triangle away flash counter still show 9 . How come ? Why does it still show 9 and not 1 ?
Any help will be appreciated .

It will most likely be because you're not using stock recovery or kernel
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symondo12 said:
It will most likely be because you're not using stock recovery or kernel
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So it means if I go back to stock rom and kernel ,it will reset flash counter to zero and not if i am trying to reset on a already custom rom ?

ricky0001 said:
So it means if I go back to stock rom and kernel ,it will reset flash counter to zero and not if i am trying to reset on a already custom rom ?
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It won't work you must have stock kernel, stock recovery

You need to flash pre-rooted stock fw with odin, then use triangle away to reset counter. After that you can flash non rooted stock fw with odin to get your phone back to stock, if that is what you want.

vesu said:
You need to flash pre-rooted stock fw with odin, then use triangle away to reset counter. After that you can flash non rooted stock fw with odin to get your phone back to stock, if that is what you want.
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Sorry for noob question . But what is pre rooted stock ? Isnt it same as samsung stock firmware which I can flash to overwrite custom rom ?

ricky0001 said:
Sorry for noob question . But what is pre rooted stock ? Isnt it same as samsung stock firmware which I can flash to overwrite custom rom ?
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Yes, its stock samsung firmware but it is already rooted, so you can use triangle away.

vesu said:
Yes, its stock samsung firmware but it is already rooted, so you can use triangle away.
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So i need to be rooted to have triangle away working ? I have already downloaded stock firmware but where do I get pre rooted stock firmware ?

ricky0001 said:
So i need to be rooted to have triangle away working ? I have already downloaded stock firmware but where do I get pre rooted stock firmware ?
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Make sure that you absolutely know what you are doing, I dont want you to brick your deivce or trip knox flag.
If you are still with fw that has OLD bootloader without knox flag, then you can use this one: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23050663588004454
But if you already have bootloader with knox, then I am not one to help you. After reseting my counter and flashing stock fw, I ota updated my phone to newer fw that has knox bootloader and I've been with stock since then.
Oh and btw, you have i9505 right?

vesu said:
Make sure that you absolutely know what you are doing, I dont want you to brick your deivce or trip knox flag.
If you are still with fw that has OLD bootloader without knox flag, then you can use this one: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23050663588004454
But if you already have bootloader with knox, then I am not one to help you. After reseting my counter and flashing stock fw, I ota updated my phone to newer fw that has knox bootloader and I've been with stock since then.
Oh and btw, you have i9505 right?
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Yes I have I9505 model. I am on new bootloader as I updated my phone with MH8 firmware and got 0x1 knox warranty void. Doesnt really care about losing warranty because I have always handled my phone carefully.
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Which baseband do you have ?
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I have reset it now to 0.
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Odin download mode FAIL??

Hello guys,
I am not happy with new update MJ7... so I decided to install old MI5 stock os.
I downloaded from sammobile site n900 Ins Mi5 stock firmware.
I followed all steps to install firmware via pc odin...
But every time it's fail, I don't know why this happened?
And after that my recovery mode is gone then I re install stock recovery and then I checked that in download mode i see bit counter 01? And I dont have knox counter in odin download mode...
Did my warranty gone? Can I install old stock rom like MJ1 OR MI5?? Please guys I am in very big trouble help me ?
I have indian sm-n900 upgraded from note 2 n7100...
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda app-developers app

ravij08 said:
Hello guys,
I am not happy with new update MJ7... so I decided to install old MI5 stock os.
I downloaded from sammobile site n900 Ins Mi5 stock firmware.
I followed all steps to install firmware via pc odin...
But every time it's fail, I don't know why this happened?
And after that my recovery mode is gone then I re install stock recovery and then I checked that in download mode i see bit counter 01? And I dont have knox counter in odin download mode...
Did my warranty gone? Can I install old stock rom like MJ1 OR MI5?? Please guys I am in very big trouble help me ?
I have indian sm-n900 upgraded from note 2 n7100...
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you cant downgrade firmware anymore

ravij08 said:
Hello guys,
I am not happy with new update MJ7... so I decided to install old MI5 stock os.
I downloaded from sammobile site n900 Ins Mi5 stock firmware.
I followed all steps to install firmware via pc odin...
But every time it's fail, I don't know why this happened?
And after that my recovery mode is gone then I re install stock recovery and then I checked that in download mode i see bit counter 01? And I dont have knox counter in odin download mode...
Did my warranty gone? Can I install old stock rom like MJ1 OR MI5?? Please guys I am in very big trouble help me ?
I have indian sm-n900 upgraded from note 2 n7100...
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Downgrading your software is a security risk for Samsung, so you can't do it anymore.
Your flashing and fiddling probably triggered Knox and now your warranty is permanently gone.
Don't mess with your phone unless you know what you are doing.

Skander1998 said:
Downgrading your software is a security risk for Samsung, so you can't do it anymore.
Your flashing and fiddling probably triggered Knox and now your warranty is permanently gone.
Don't mess with your phone unless you know what you are doing.
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ok...
from day 1 dont have Knox in odin downloading mode, only have Bit counter 0x0
And when i updated from Kies 3.0 then after lost my recovery mode and after re installing recovery mode through odin 1.83 then
Bit counter 0x1
I didn't install any custom rom or Auto root...
i am really confused...????

if it said 0x1 then the knox fuse is triggered and your warranty is void regardless.
Can you take a picture of download mode (odin mode) and post it so I make sure?

Yes I confirmed that warranty bit is 1 and there is no knox counter...
That means kies will remove warranty after updating....
So Samsung store will not give replacement of this device...???
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Happy to tell all of you that Samsung store said my warranty is still valid and they downgraded my mj7 os to mj1...
It's great I don't know how they do it but I happy now
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda app-developers app

things before trip knox ..

Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you

RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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Only one thing once knox is tripped there's know going back

ok
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Most important, turn re-activation lock OFF..
If it's on you will have problems....

RaDi said:
Hello
I'm on stock 4.3 with MJ7 bootloader .. and for my today is the day to trip knox and rock custom rom on it ..
I want to know what are the thing that i should do before root and install custom recovery / rom ... ???
i found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447342
is there any thing else ??
thank you
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It would have been interesting to at least try some new test in the process - for instance I have seen some intriguing reports from N900W8 models where they have apparently installed some version of xnote (custom rom pre-rooted) without tripping knox presumably by somehow using stock Samsung kernel and stock Samsung recovery (I repeat, that was THEIR claim, not mine, but more research and testing on the subject would be nice).

I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
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I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks

DrawnToLife said:
I'm one of those people. I installed the Mexican update, then rooted using Cf autoroot, then installed CWM and flashed X-Note with Katturbine kernel and I'm still knox 0x0 :/
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That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).

xclub_101 said:
That sounds very different from what I was expecting, and so far based on that I would say that it mostly seems to be a result of the N900W8 bootloader system rather than something very special that needs to be done when flashing stuff
Question specific for N900W8 - is it possible to downgrade MJ4 -> MJ1 on that phone? (since that would confirm that the W8 bootloader is quite different).
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No, not possible to downgrade to MJ1 even when you came from MJ1 and upgraded to MJ4.
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anameeeen said:
I am also on MJ7, N900t and I had have two questions if possible.
1. Do you recommend me to upgrade to kitkat then to have custom rom or just to root my 4.3 then to have a custom rom?
DrawnToLife
2. Can you please explain what you did step by step instructions to what you did, and if possible providing a link to the Mexican rom you referred to and the same CWM you used.
Thanks
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I followed this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618633

Root GT-N7100<4.4.2> without tripping KNOX

Hi XDA people,
Just found this workaround for rooting latest 4.4.2 stock firmware without tripping Knox.
This method downgrades the firmware(System & Kernel) on your device to N7100XXUEMK4 except for the bootloader.
Dont even try to downgrade the bootloader as this isn't possible.
What you need:
1.Odin v3.09
2.Stock official N7100XXUFND3 firmware on your device.
3. A device with Knox Warranty Void: 0
Procedure:
1.Download N7100XXUEMK4 Stock Rom from HERE
2. Open the downloaded file.You will find 4 .tar.md5 files and an Odinv3.09 zip file inside.
3. Extract the Odin file and setup Odin on your PC.
4. Next extract the file named AP_N7100XXUEMK4_2099172_REV04_user_low_ship.tar.md5
5. Load this file into AP tab on Odin. Connect your phone in Odin mode and flash this file.
( Note : You have to flash only the AP file from Odin. Do not flash the other files namely CP, CSC, BL)
6. Now once the phone has rebooted go back to download mode and check if Knox has tripped or not.
7. Next use Saferoot from HERE to root your device.
(You would find the guide on how to root using saferoot easily over HERE
8. Now if saferoot was able to root your device then you must be rooted without tripping Knox. :good:
9. Now you can easily flash your official firmware through mobile odin. Select Everroot option on Mobile odin while flashing the new firmware. In this way you wont lose root access.
Known Issues:
If after rooting you want to flash custom recovery via mobile odin, or via DR.Ketan's utilities app please note that it will trip knox.
Knox remains cool until your recovery is stock. The moment a custom recovery is detected knox goes 1.
Credits:
@k1mu for saferoot

Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)

robalm said:
Cant you just do this?
Use Mj5 bootloader and any rom 4.x
Flash Kitkat 4.4.2 via mobilOdin and root.
Make sure status is ok (use triangle away if not)
Flash latest 4.4.2 bootloader via Odin (pcOdin)
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Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
Surely it can be done that way.
This is for those who already upgraded to the newer builds.
Edit: FYI Triangle Away cannot reset Knox.
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Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.

robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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Okay. :thumbup:
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can u do this with 7105 also?

romdroid. said:
can u do this with 7105 also?
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No idea about N7105
Do you know any N7105 stock firmware which is root able by saferoot/kingoroot without tripping knox?
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smeet.somaiya said:
Okay. :thumbup:
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robalm said:
Ok.
What i mean was use Triangle away before you flash the 4.4.2 bootloader to get official status and binary count 0, the knox in MJ5 always stand 0.
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But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?

singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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smeet.somaiya said:
I don't think flashing ND3 BL will trigger knox.
Most of the users already flashed ND3 BL from MJ5 while they were on DN3. It doesn't trigger that way.
And yes about that guy, he never mentioned any detail that he downgraded from ND3 to which firmware of 4.3.
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infact you were the one who brought it to mine and haybill's attention that upgrading BL to ND3 triggers Knox ,i'll just ask haybill to send me a screenshot from phone info

singhpratik87 said:
I don't think you kept up with haybill and paarkhi's comments in DN3.They were on mj5 and upgraded to ND3 BL and they got Knoxed
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I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
I did read them. They got knoxed means they got a BL with Knox warranty Void 0. And @paarkhi confirmed it to me
And I really don't think it would trigger knox that way because the bootloader doesn't check the integrity of the firmware on your device when you're flashing the bootloader itself.
Also it doesn't trigger Knox while it boots up the system and finds unauthorized firmware.
Because we don't have Kernel lock and secure boot like on Qualcomm based N3.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100
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Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox

singhpratik87 said:
Okay this is all too much for my brain to absorb at this time of the night ,i don't think i actually understand the difference between Knox warranty void and being Knoxed ,i guess since we install de-knoxed ROMs we can't get Knoxed ,just that our warranty goes out the window and we cannot downgrade beyond a certain OS right? If what i stated is wrong then i'll go to bed and dream of knox
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Lol. It's paritally right.
Don't worry buddy I'll help you learn Knox
Being Knoxed is getting that extra line in the download mode.
But this doesn't throw away your warranty. Warranty is lost only when this extra line in download mode ends with 1 instead of 0
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

singhpratik87 said:
But wouldn't flashing 4.4.2 BL trigger Knox? I got bit confused with @robalm method
@smeet.somaiya didn't some guy over at general forum under galaxy note 2 india told us that he downgraded from official 4.4.2 to stock 4.3 and his bootloader was downgraded as well?
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I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.

robalm said:
I cant say for sure if flashing only the new 4.4.2 bootloader via odin will trigger knox, i have not tested it myself.
My post was more of a question from me.
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In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
Sent from my Galaxy S5 GT-N7100

smeet.somaiya said:
In my opinion that shouldn't trip Knox.
Let us know if you test it.
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Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.

robalm said:
Have you got any feedback yet?
I do not have the balls to try it, my warranty is still valid and i may need to have it on service in future.
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No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
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smeet.somaiya said:
No feedback yet. But one thing i can say for sure that even if this method fails it won't hard rick your phone because we ain't downgrading the BL here.
And I found a similar method on S4 active forums. It seems it works very well.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)

robalm said:
Ok.
But KNOX will trigger by flashing anything that is not samsung official? (same as the binary counter)
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Yes it would trigger by flashing unofficial firmware.
But here we ain't doing that too.
We're just flashing a older kernel+system partition (the whole PDA from MK4) that was vulnerable to root without tripping knox.
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I have DDUFND1. Even kingo doesnt recognize it. How can i get a one click root solution :crying: