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So we got our shiny new N3's... we all (well 98% of us love them... lets not get technical about the % lol)... the xda devs started working on root...which is awesome.. having some issues getting root figured out (always the case on new and newer devices).....
Really though. What's the point of rooting? It can void your warranty. Possibly set of Knox.. and up until now there is only 1 one click type root function that is under speculation(will leave the name out for threads sake)... which I will not use. If you root do you get rid of alot of the licensing checks on apk's? We always have a lot of mods that we can add. I agree the bloat ware blows... but its still quite fast.... and if u got a nice size sd card... it doesn't matter that much... We can't flash roms yet so thats a negative for now.... So again.. what's the real point to root?
I'm sure nobody that's rooted cares that much to do so.. but if you feel inclined... explain some real solid reasons for rooting.. and the method that works without tripping knox.(this phone will eventually go back to verizon).... if you need to pm me please do so....
Seriously, just do a search. This has been discussed ad nauseum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root or not
If you're the type of person that has to ask, then rooting probably isn't for you.
I root to remove bloatware, customize the phone in ways that are otherwise impossible, and just to have the freedom to do whatever I want (at least within the confines of the locked bootloader, grrr). I have used iOS for years, and my main issue with it was the restrictions Apple placed upon the system. I would find x or y thing I didn't like, but had no control over it. I fail to see the point of Android if you can't do what you like to it. Otherwise it's just a locked-down OS from a different vendor.
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Seriously, just do a search. This has been discussed ad nauseum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root or not
If you're the type of person that has to ask, then rooting probably isn't for you.
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I've rooted every device I've ever had on android.... 4.3 is starting to get to the point where we have most of the bells and whistles... Now I don't get down to the coding and programming (how many of us really do) but I love to take advantage of things that otherwise couldn't... simple app mods don't incline me enough to lose warranty. I rom probably would... Just saying it's not that i'm a dummy not understanding what root is... it's that its kind of iffy at the moment.... if someone knows 100% that it won't trip knox and you can revert back I'd give it a shot... I haven't seen that option yet that is 100% proven and cleared by xda or any other reputable sites.....
(pm me if there is something i need to know... i hold no one accountable)
only thing i could see as a definite positive to me is rom toolbox... amazing app.... able to freeze apps/back up etc..
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I've rooted every device I've ever had on android.... 4.3 is starting to get to the point where we have most of the bells and whistles... Now I don't get down to the coding and programming (how many of us really do) but I love to take advantage of things that otherwise couldn't... simple app mods don't incline me enough to lose warranty. I rom probably would... Just saying it's not that i'm a dummy not understanding what root is... it's that its kind of iffy at the moment.... if someone knows 100% that it won't trip knox and you can revert back I'd give it a shot... I haven't seen that option yet that is 100% proven and cleared by xda or any other reputable sites.....
(pm me if there is something i need to know... i hold no one accountable)
only thing i could see as a definite positive to me is rom toolbox... amazing app.... able to freeze apps/back up etc..
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You'll find out once google releases the next version of android and 365 days later verizon finally updates their device....
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Seriously, just do a search. This has been discussed ad nauseum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root or not
If you're the type of person that has to ask, then rooting probably isn't for you.
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kwkw480 said:
You'll find out once google releases the next version of android and 365 days later verizon finally updates their device....
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agreed.... at that point i would take that plunge... (root would be better then too i'm sure(devs making things proven more and more)) shutting down svoice would be good too.... alot of that stuff would take a rom to really be a "kitkat" so i don't see the rush and still see no real reason to root at the moment..... anyone else? lol
that link sent me to a page with seveal posts and didn't see the one that you quoted.. nauseum? repost?
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Well, only if ROMs are available.
I'm with the original poster on this subject. I've rooted and ROMed my phones since forever. But the goal was to change the ROM. Until a ROM is available for the N3 there's no compelling reason to root. Yeah, TiBu is nice to use but Helium is adequate. (I used Helium to move my apps from N2 to N3).
Getting rid of bloatware? That's a political decision, not a practical one. People say that because "they're rebelling against the man." This phone is so ridiculously fast that bloatware does nothing to harm performance. If you don't like seeing it in the app tray then just use a launcher that lets you hide things in the app tray.
Don't like Touchwiz? I haven't found a ROM that I like either. TouchWiz is not perfect, but neither is AOKP, Omni, CM or many other ROM interfaces.
Yes, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (original Tab) is rooted with a 4.3 ROM. It's the only way to get past ICS. But phones are different. I get a new one about every 6 months or so. I don't worry about what Verizon will do with the N3 in 2015. Most people on XDA are similar, so it's a moot point to argue about lack of support down the road.
I keep watching but there's been no compelling reason for me to root this phone. I want to, yeah, but where's the reward other than the pure joy of rooting? Most respond here with vague things about doing it their way, bloat or all of these apps that make life wonderful. I say show me. And it must be compelling. I want to, I just can't justify it.
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shutting down svoice would be good too....
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Please explain. I have no interaction with S-Voice that I know of. To what are you referring?
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if someone knows 100% that it won't trip knox and you can revert back I'd give it a shot... I haven't seen that option yet that is 100% proven and cleared by xda or any other reputable sites......
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I don't think you'll ever see a 100% assurance on that. I've rooted my Note 3 with both Root De La Vega and Kingo, flashed the phone a few times with Odin, installed Beans' rooted stock, and still have 0x0 on my Knox counter, fwiw.
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Well, only if ROMs are available.
I'm with the original poster on this subject. I've rooted and ROMed my phones since forever. But the goal was to change the ROM. Until a ROM is available for the N3 there's no compelling reason to root. Yeah, TiBu is nice to use but Helium is adequate. (I used Helium to move my apps from N2 to N3).
Getting rid of bloatware? That's a political decision, not a practical one. People say that because "they're rebelling against the man." This phone is so ridiculously fast that bloatware does nothing to harm performance. If you don't like seeing it in the app tray then just use a launcher that lets you hide things in the app tray.
Don't like Touchwiz? I haven't found a ROM that I like either. TouchWiz is not perfect, but neither is AOKP, Omni, CM or many other ROM interfaces.
Yes, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (original Tab) is rooted with a 4.3 ROM. It's the only way to get past ICS. But phones are different. I get a new one about every 6 months or so. I don't worry about what Verizon will do with the N3 in 2015. Most people on XDA are similar, so it's a moot point to argue about lack of support down the road.
I keep watching but there's been no compelling reason for me to root this phone. I want to, yeah, but where's the reward other than the pure joy of rooting? Most respond here with vague things about doing it their way, bloat or all of these apps that make life wonderful. I say show me. And it must be compelling. I want to, I just can't justify it.
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Please explain. I have no interaction with S-Voice that I know of. To what are you referring?
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You hit the nail .... S-voice.. I have no interaction with it at all either.. only time is when I use my s4a ear "buds?".... amazing sound with a mic and button.. when i hold the mic down though s-voice pops up and i don't want it too... can't get away from it as it sits (might try a diffferent music player..... not a real problem though.. just a small annoyance
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Well, only if ROMs are available.
I'm with the original poster on this subject. I've rooted and ROMed my phones since forever. But the goal was to change the ROM. Until a ROM is available for the N3 there's no compelling reason to root. Yeah, TiBu is nice to use but Helium is adequate. (I used Helium to move my apps from N2 to N3).
Getting rid of bloatware? That's a political decision, not a practical one. People say that because "they're rebelling against the man." This phone is so ridiculously fast that bloatware does nothing to harm performance. If you don't like seeing it in the app tray then just use a launcher that lets you hide things in the app tray.
Don't like Touchwiz? I haven't found a ROM that I like either. TouchWiz is not perfect, but neither is AOKP, Omni, CM or many other ROM interfaces.
Yes, my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (original Tab) is rooted with a 4.3 ROM. It's the only way to get past ICS. But phones are different. I get a new one about every 6 months or so. I don't worry about what Verizon will do with the N3 in 2015. Most people on XDA are similar, so it's a moot point to argue about lack of support down the road.
I keep watching but there's been no compelling reason for me to root this phone. I want to, yeah, but where's the reward other than the pure joy of rooting? Most respond here with vague things about doing it their way, bloat or all of these apps that make life wonderful. I say show me. And it must be compelling. I want to, I just can't justify it.
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Please explain. I have no interaction with S-Voice that I know of. To what are you referring?
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I don't think you'll ever see a 100% assurance on that. I've rooted my Note 3 with both Root De La Vega and Kingo, flashed the phone a few times with Odin, installed Beans' rooted stock, and still have 0x0 on my Knox counter, fwiw.
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good to know.. thanks.. just read a thread where hyperdrive rom is up...... (was my rom of choice for my s3).... definately making a case for rooting now.. but still want that easy root.... the one you mentioned is still too iffy........... and root de la vega... seems intimidating with all the typing...... don't have hours to sit... go through several stops and not make a single boo boo and brick it or trip it....... the other ting.. msg me if u have any type of proof its clean... can't really go into discussion in threads on that.... too many people may read and take that plunge while it is still a bit foreign to the dev base
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I don't think you'll ever see a 100% assurance on that. I've rooted my Note 3 with both Root De La Vega and Kingo, flashed the phone a few times with Odin, installed Beans' rooted stock, and still have 0x0 on my Knox counter, fwiw.
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good to know...... was the K the last one u rooted with.... it seems iffy to this forum.. msg me if you have done any research on that prog and if it indeed worth trying....
Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks
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Is anyone gonna make a ROM seriously, this sucks. Why is no one interested in this thing, it sucks
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my guess is the whole knox thing kinda turned everyone off to rooting. i agree though, it does suck.
The worst part is that I'm in love with this pen, and don't know if I could give it up, but Damn this sucks having no roms, and not just no roms, but seemingly no one hardly at all interested in ANY kind of dev work hardly....total crap
lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.
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lol I'm still waiting for a 0x0 root for the P600, I'm pretty sure the chances of this happening are slim to none at this point, but I'll wait it out for a few months. Not a fan of voiding the warranty for a 600 dollar piece of hardware.
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I would think it's just one published kernel exploit away. My interpretation of the Knox Warranty piece is it gets flagged when you flash improperly signed files. Finding an exploit that is done while running Android may not set the warranty flag.
I see a lot of threads now are offering money to someone who makes a rom, perhaps those interested could pledge something(including me) which might sway someone to making something...... just a thought
I rooted and don't really give a crap about tripping Knox.
I've made ROMs in the past, but I need the source files. Right now I'm waiting for either Samsung or someone else to publish the files for MK1 and I might do something with that.
custom roms
The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.
Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
Gitbrew has had luck with the PS4, we have a p600 en route.
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The creator of the Android Revolution roms (android-revolution-hd.blogspot.de) Mike1986 is currently running a pledgie to buy a Note 10.1 2014. If your interested in supporting, the Link is on his Facebook page.
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Ahh. He is promising for this tablet. Maybe we should do a pledge thread and all add a bit of money in and aim towards p600 for obvious reasons. He could preduce something better than me and probably most people in this forum.
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Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.
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Who cares about a KNOX free root it trips KNOX no matter what if you have a custom recovery. Plus I dont care about warranty. I have never had to return anything due to warranty. I have had 4 iPhones,4 androids, 2 ipads and I figure if its not messed up in the first 30 day then nothing will happen and if it does it will happen past the one year warranty.
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I have to agree. I have been using android and Winmo devices for a long time including tablets. I have rooted then all and have never had to return one to the manufacturer. I rooted last night (I rooted my Note III the day I got it). SInce I have never had to use a warranty, the benefits of rooting outweighed preserving the warranty. Nothing like being able to use such great apps as Titanium Backup or Ad-away to enhance my experience with my device.
Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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I care about a KNOX free (0x0) root. I don't need a custom recovery, I just want TB and other goodies. I don't imagine I'm the only one.
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Regardless, a 0x0 root would be nice for those of us who want to retain warranty. Not interested in installing a custom recovery anyway if it trips knox. Those of you who didn't care are rooted already.
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^^^ This.
For me, it's not so much that I care about the warranty (the place I bought it from allows holiday returns through 1/31/2014, so I could even trip KNOX and still return it), it's just that there's so little dev activity on this device, including just a stock rooted ROM, that you don't want to trip KNOX or else you're likely not getting KitKat.
The latest 4.3 update for the Note 2 phone brought KNOX to the Note 2. I was running basically stock rooted anyway, but at least there's a little more dev activity on the Note 2 so a KNOX-free stock rooted ROM was released very quickly after the OTA.
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I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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This is my policy for everything in my life -- not just dev projects on XDA. I don't pay for something that doesn't yet exist and/or isn't proven/working yet. I also think that if devs buy their own hardware they end up more committed to the particular device rather than putting out one ROM to justify taking the bounty and then moving on to the next device bounty (with no updates, maintenance, fixes, etc.).
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Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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sbattosai said:
Well he brought root to the device, this is what the bounty was for, I see no foul play here.
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+1. I paid my pledge happily. I wanted root and nobody else was working on it. The knox thing doesn't concern me at all.
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Plus it sucks everyone raised money for BEAN and he bolted that was pretty uncool.
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Don't go there man.... He did what he was paid to and that's that. ... bad mouthing him isn't going to get him to come back and make a rom.... honestly I don't blame him for returning it I'm about to I think. .. what the he'll is the point in having top notch hardware when you can't get any dev work happening on it....just retarded
What other tablet is out there though that even comes close in hardware specs but has at least half assed support
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swaggerjacker said:
I'm not giving anyone money on a promise. I'd donate afterwards. Too many times I've read people getting screwed by shady devs.
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That's not how a pledge works. If you've read about something happening it wasn't done in the proper way. A pledge is when you promise to out forward a certain amount of money when a certain goal is reached. If that goal isn't reached to your satisfaction then you don't send the money. That is that. But better not get caught asking for support on the item in question....
Ok, so I have an idea to like downgrade from mk2 or mf3... I am a noob to i337, so please explain to me WHY I can't do this before flaming :C
So we obv can't flash because of Samsung's locked bootloader and knox and stuff, but what if we were to completely wipe our phone. Not like a regular "I'ma factory reset my brick yo!" No no no, I mean completely getting rid of EVERYTHING. Modem, kernel, everything to make it as if you haven't gotten a single flash of ANYTHING on your phone, as if your phone is just getting it's software installed. THEN, we flash a MDL and everything for 4.1.2, or practically whatever came before mf3 (since my phone was shipped with that, I never really took the time to research what came before so I'm not sure what version is before). So, I'm thinking maybe someone has actually tried this, and thinking someone has not... Just want to find out if you can, and if you can't, why not.
Thanks
P.S: Wasn't sure whether to post in General or Q&A, so I posted it here
Because when your phone updated to mf3 or later it blows a q fuse that makes it impossible. It's beyond software. It's a hardware issue
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Because when your phone updated to mf3 or later it blows a q fuse that makes it impossible. It's beyond software. It's a hardware issue
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Oh ok, well in that case (sorry I'm a noob) whats a qfuse? I've searched it up and haven't really gotten anywhere with it
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Oh ok, well in that case (sorry I'm a noob) whats a qfuse? I've searched it up and haven't really gotten anywhere with it
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From what I've read, it's a piece of hardware that only counts up. It is checked when attempting to flash old bootloaders.
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From what I've read, it's a piece of hardware that only counts up. It is checked when attempting to flash old bootloaders.
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This seems like a good place to ask this question: does flashing 4.3 MK2 blow another qfuse? And if we're already on MF3, would you recommend waiting to update and not blowing that qfuse in case that might be the key to regaining access to custom recovery? Or are we doomed forever already and I should just go ahead and take the update?
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This seems like a good place to ask this question: does flashing 4.3 MK2 blow another qfuse? And if we're already on MF3, would you recommend waiting to update and not blowing that qfuse in case that might be the key to regaining access to custom recovery? Or are we doomed forever already and I should just go ahead and take the update?
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MK2 does trip it, so no MF3 downgrade. Whether or not you upgrade is really up to you: progress is not coming too quickly and unless Samsung patched a security hole we haven't even found yet in the boot loader there's a chance any MF3 exploit may carry over. I would recommend MF3 personally since you can still use Safestrap for some freedom and it'll be less difficult since they won't have Knox to work around.
Hmmm... so it's a piece of hardware huh... would it be possible to remove this hardware? I took apart my S3 when the screen broke to see what was going on internally so if I'm correct, you can take apart the S4, right?
EDIT : Then again, that hardware could be pretty itty bitty...
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Hmmm... so it's a piece of hardware huh... would it be possible to remove this hardware? I took apart my S3 when the screen broke to see what was going on internally so if I'm correct, you can take apart the S4, right?
EDIT : Then again, that hardware could be pretty itty bitty...
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I think it would be better for someone to hack the firmware and alter it to make it "think" it has checked this piece of hardware and return a favorable response.
However, i am no developer...
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I think it would be better for someone to hack the firmware and alter it to make it "think" it has checked this piece of hardware and return a favorable response.
However, i am no developer...
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Hmmmm I've wanted to be a dev for quite some time and I am only 14... However I did do a little noob java scripting for irc chats back when I was like 10, so if you know anyone willing to teach me the basics and give me the structure to adb and coding for android and all that, that'd be great
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Hmmmm I've wanted to be a dev for quite some time and I am only 14... However I did do a little noob java scripting for irc chats back when I was like 10, so if you know anyone willing to teach me the basics and give me the structure to adb and coding for android and all that, that'd be great
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This is a great community. PM some of the developers and they can probably point you in the right direction to get started.
LOL.. If it were that easy, it would have already been done.
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This is a great community. PM some of the developers and they can probably point you in the right direction to get started.
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Alright, thanks a ton! +1
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LOL.. If it were that easy, it would have already been done.
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That doesn't help
I still have a S4, and I never did the update, so I can flash roms, but do as I am fixing to do, I am fixing to sell the wifes S4 MF3, you can still get $500-$600 and get a T-Mobile Note 3.....there are people who know nothing of flashing roms that will pay that price....quit wasting time looking for a solution as the devs that were working on it moved on to different devices....you can bet that there will be no fix for this in the near future.....keep in mind that this is NO software problem.
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I still have a S4, and I never did the update, so I can flash roms, but do as I am fixing to do, I am fixing to sell the wifes S4 MF3, you can still get $500-$600 and get a T-Mobile Note 3.....there are people who know nothing of flashing roms that will pay that price....quit wasting time looking for a solution as the devs that were working on it moved on to different devices....you can bet that there will be no fix for this in the near future.....keep in mind that this is NO software problem.
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CURRENTLY CHATTING WITH SAMSUNG (SORRY FOR CAPS JUST SO EXCITED ) This is what they said just now after I asked about an eFuse/qFuse. Tell me if this is invalid!!!
******: As of now, I would like to inform you that, eFuse is not available in S4 mobile.
This is what the rep has said so far for the i337, will be updating further soon
UPDATE BEFORE POST : I had to ask them this, as I am a newbie and I didn't want to put the burden on you guys.
Visitor: Thank you very much. If you don't mind, is there a difference between qFuse and eFuse?
******: You are welcome. I wish I could have helped you in this regard. However we in live chat have information regarding the US model devices trouble shooting only.
So I guess this could mean they aren't completely suited for these types of Q&A's? Either way, rumors did spread about eFuse stuff being involved but I was just told officially that this was incorrect. Please tell me if I am wrong? Or I might have to start a new thread on this, rather.
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CURRENTLY CHATTING WITH SAMSUNG (SORRY FOR CAPS JUST SO EXCITED ) This is what they said just now after I asked about an eFuse/qFuse. Tell me if this is invalid!!!
******: As of now, I would like to inform you that, eFuse is not available in S4 mobile.
This is what the rep has said so far for the i337, will be updating further soon
UPDATE BEFORE POST : I had to ask them this, as I am a newbie and I didn't want to put the burden on you guys.
Visitor: Thank you very much. If you don't mind, is there a difference between qFuse and eFuse?
******: You are welcome. I wish I could have helped you in this regard. However we in live chat have information regarding the US model devices trouble shooting only.
So I guess this could mean they aren't completely suited for these types of Q&A's? Either way, rumors did spread about eFuse stuff being involved but I was just told officially that this was incorrect. Please tell me if I am wrong? Or I might have to start a new thread on this, rather.
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Samsung customer service reps have no clue about the device other than what's on their scripts. A noob on xda has 100 times the knowledge they do
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Samsung customer service reps have no clue about the device other than what's on their scripts. A noob on xda has 100 times the knowledge they do
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My hopes
TheAxman said:
I still have a S4, and I never did the update, so I can flash roms, but do as I am fixing to do, I am fixing to sell the wifes S4 MF3, you can still get $500-$600 and get a T-Mobile Note 3.....there are people who know nothing of flashing roms that will pay that price....quit wasting time looking for a solution as the devs that were working on it moved on to different devices....you can bet that there will be no fix for this in the near future.....keep in mind that this is NO software problem.
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Keep in mind the T-Mobile Note 3, N900T gets really bad LTE reception when using an AT&T sim. In places that had a -90dbm LTE signal on the S4 wouldn't even connect to LTE on the N900T for me. The device also got really warm when it was connected to LTE. I don't know if that's because the N900T isn't optimized for band 17, or just a way for them to discourage people from using AT&T.
Developers for the S4 have not called it quits. They are currently working on bringing safestrap to the latest MK2 update.
I'm really just wasting my time here because actually "searching" for any of the stuff in this thread would have provided answers, but I guess posting the information 1001 times is no different than the 1000 times it's already been posted.
A q-fuse involves hardware on some level, an e-fuse is software related. The AT&T S4 used q-fuses to increment firmware boot-loaders. It was incremented between MDL and MF3. It was incremented again between MF3 and MJ6. And it was increased again between MJ6 and MK2. When it is incremented, YOU CAN NOT GO BACK TO A PREVIOUS FIRMWARE...PERIOD! You can not simply change the information in aboot. Any changes invalidate Samsung's signature and without their encrypted key, a file CAN NOT be resigned.
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I'm really just wasting my time here because actually "searching" for any of the stuff in this thread would have provided answers, but I guess posting the information 1001 times is no different than the 1000 times it's already been posted.
A q-fuse involves hardware on some level, an e-fuse is software related. The AT&T S4 used q-fuses to increment firmware boot-loaders. It was incremented between MDL and MF3. It was incremented again between MF3 and MJ6. And it was increased again between MJ6 and MK2. When it is incremented, YOU CAN NOT GO BACK TO A PREVIOUS FIRMWARE...PERIOD! You can not simply change the information in aboot. Any changes invalidate Samsung's signature and without their encrypted key, a file CAN NOT be resigned.
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I'm very much sorry for that. However, do not misinterpret me when I say this but, your post was unnecessary as someone already said qFuse was on a hardware level. I dedicated a bunch of today to S4 and the I337 model specifically. Tomorrow or Wednesday is when I'll be sending some PMs to Devs
Basically, thread is over with. Thanks everyone
As title... I came from an HTC One M8, that got root 1 sec later I got it out from the box lol.
2 years with rom, flashes, kernels, xposed and and lot of other things.
Well S7 Edge it's a fantastic phone, but without root I feel "empty", I feel something it's wrong with my device lol.
Help me guys, should I root and make my soul happy, but lose warranty, or wait and keep the phone in warranty?
It's the first time I have such a problem, I totally hate this damn knox, but completely love this phone... Help me lol.
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As title... I came from an HTC One M8, that got root 1 sec later I got it out from the box lol.
2 years with rom, flashes, kernels, xposed and and lot of other things.
Well S7 Edge it's a fantastic phone, but without root I feel "empty", I feel something it's wrong with my device lol.
Help me guys, should I root and make my soul happy, but lose warranty, or wait and keep the phone in warranty?
It's the first time I have such a problem, I totally hate this damn knox, but completely love this phone... Help me lol.
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I myself am fighting for the urge to root. This is my first time not rooting a phone out of the box. I'm trying to keep in mind that the SGS7E is a fragile device so might be a good idea to maximize warranty for as long as you can resist the urge to root.
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J89613 said:
As long as you don't need KNOX, and take good care of your phone then why not? I say go for it
Side note: Does your White LED come out as Purple, and your Yellow LED come out as Orange?
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Yeah but I will lose warranty...
And I never noticed it, I'll do some test later
I still don't know what to do lol.. I hate myself )
Funny question, I actually have a personal custom rom baked and ready but my S7E is still a virgin lol
I know I'm able to turn a nice device into a killer device but something is holding me back. Since I'm from the Netherlands I don't even have to fear loosing warranty but still I didn't go for root and custom rom world.
Good luck deciding what to do as I can imagine the pain you're in.
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Yeah but I will lose warranty...
And I never noticed it, I'll do some test later
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Why not spend a little time reading posts about loosing warranty
due to being rooted here in xda and then make up your mind.
Please let me know if you find any posts by anyone here in any of the xda forums and threads that says:
"I could not return or exchange my defective phone because it was rooted and is no longer under warranty".
Good luck,
Have a great day!
Root it and have fun .
otherwise that itch will never go .
it's your phone , you bought it, do with it whatever you want (unless you tend to break stuff ,and care for warranty-even though many carriers don't check for this KNOX thing anyway )
Depends. If you don't need Knox and don't use Samsung Pay, then go ahead and root.
I can understand your worries.
At first I was not too sure if I should root it or not... but I could no longer resist after 5 hours without root ^^
Root it and be happy
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Time to root guys. I'll soon do it. I'm just choosing which rom flash lol
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I have to find something out first before I root, because I night have to send my phone to be repaired.
Do any of you notice then the Yellow LED Orange and the White is Purple?
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I do.
I thought it was normal on Samsung devices not being able to show all colors correctly.
Is this a known issue that needs to be fixed?
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As title... I came from an HTC One M8, that got root 1 sec later I got it out from the box lol.
2 years with rom, flashes, kernels, xposed and and lot of other things.
Well S7 Edge it's a fantastic phone, but without root I feel "empty", I feel something it's wrong with my device lol.
Help me guys, should I root and make my soul happy, but lose warranty, or wait and keep the phone in warranty?
It's the first time I have such a problem, I totally hate this damn knox, but completely love this phone... Help me lol.
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I used to love rooting and customising my phones. I have an S7 edge and haven't done anything to it apart from change the launcher. So far I haven't needed to do anything else. Part of why I don't want to root is for apps that don't work such as my bank app. I'm not sure if I'll ever root this phone. It might depend how long I keep it for.
Phone without root?
Impossible. No flashing, no low level apps... Took me 30 minutes to root my phone after getting home from the shop. I wouldn't bother using a phone which is not rooted.
Knox/Samsung pay? Not a problem.
Adaway, viper mod, are just 2 reasons for root, made it a month with no root, like it way better now... But that's me.
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Rooted, and I'm happy like a little baby
No root no party
Still not rooted. Not needed to
From what I gather Samsung pay over here is identical to Android pay.
I use Android pay daily.
Magisk can help with this
I'm wanting the camera mod and youtube ads away as the main bits.
Let me know
sutty86 said:
From what I gather Samsung pay over here is identical to Android pay.
I use Android pay daily.
Magisk can help with this
I'm wanting the camera mod and youtube ads away as the main bits.
Let me know
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If you don't care about tripping knox, go ahead. Otherwise don't do it.
Just hoping to find out it doesn't bugger anything else up
sutty86 said:
From what I gather Samsung pay over here is identical to Android pay.
I use Android pay daily.
Magisk can help with this
I'm wanting the camera mod and youtube ads away as the main bits.
Let me know
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I would say jump the gun and go root the phone. I dont know if the UK version is rootable myself but if it's possible, do it. You can have any other alternatives outside of samsung apps.
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Just hoping to find out it doesn't bugger anything else up
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UK user here
do it, like all my other samsung phones the first thing i do when i unbox it is flash a custom rom
the only thing it will bugger up is Knox so stuff like secure folder, samsung pass, samsung pay etc wont work and of course your samsung warranty will be voided.
They were way too late with samsung Pay in the UK for me to wait especially when Android Pay is already out and easily handled with magisk ( i use it daily )
Enjoy
For the camera mod alone I wouldn't. It's irreversible. How important YouTube adaway is to you is your decision. I don't watch videos on my phone so...
Again, you can always root if something you really need comes along. But you can never go back. So if you're asking the question I'm inclined to say no.
Be aware if you are on Vodafone and have insurance rooting will invalidate any claims you make.i have rooted every phone I have owned
.........except my s8. I love her to much to invalidate her warranty by tripping Knox lol
Phone bought 2nd hand
So can't really take out insurance .
I think root is a no no and XDA should be removed from cyberspace or something.
Now seriously... If you want an honest answer this is not the place to ask. What answer you expect on XDA except "go for it"? Of course any XDA user would tell you to root your phone. At the end of the day that's why we are here (on XDA). Because we want to break the "OEMs chains". And first step to do that is rooting.
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I think root is a no no and XDA should be removed from cyberspace or something.
Now seriously... If you want an honest answer this is not the place to ask. What answer you expect on XDA except "go for it"? Of course any XDA user would tell you to root your phone. At the end of the day that's why we are here (on XDA). Because we want to break the "OEMs chains". And first step to do that is rooting.
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It depends. I've been on xda for years, and advised against rooting. I too root all my phones to get rid of not needed apps and backups. But to be honest, the value for root on the S8 just isn't there atm. No aosp, xposed is irrelevant... As said, only root if there is a specific thing you need, not just because.
Also, even with Samsungs software I don't feel the need for flashing roms anymore like back in the 4.x and back days. Between Nova launcher, substratum and the scaled back styling of Samsungs stock Rom, aosp becomes less and less needed...