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Why does video on 2.1 suck compared to 1.5?

I've tried re-encoding the movies and messing with the settings, but I always end up with much crappier video than when it played on 1.5. I don't remember 1.5 having the banding issues in the darker colors, but in 2.1 it's really quite horrible. Has anyone found a solution to this? Even youtube videos look like garbage. I thought the final release would possibly fix this, but it hasn't.

They have the 2.1 source now, so expect fixes in the camera since thats everyone's problem lol maybe they can implement 1.5 camera in the 2.1 rom who knows.

Powers16 said:
They have the 2.1 source now, so expect fixes in the camera since thats everyone's problem lol maybe they can implement 1.5 camera in the 2.1 rom who knows.
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Devs had 2.1 source before, and have had for a long time. What devs do NOT have is source for the HTC .29 kernel (yet).

It's not really the camera I'm talking about... I probably should have been clear. lol Sorry, I was just a little disappointed..
I have some movies that I ripped from my dvd collection that I watch once in a while on my phone. On 1.5, I never noticed any "Banding" issues. The video would be smooth and look really good. But since I updated to 2.1 (custom roms with leaks) the video just looks like crap, especially if it's darker. You can see pixelated areas and severe banding. Especially in Total Recall and The Thing from Another Planet (1950s one). The darker areas are just crappy looking. Tons of banding issues and pixelation.

Those of you who dont know what banding is..
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**edit** i havent recorded a video since fresh 2.0d and i just now recorded a video on the new 2.1 oc fresh toast rom and i get this lol. Very odd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5kh1aq3g-o

I personally have not noticed this. I cannot imagine that it has to do with your conversion software/format, but I use videora without any issues. It's made for an iPhone but works perfectly for our heros since they have the same resolution. Might be worth a look.

Handbrake for the win.

tstack77 said:
I personally have not noticed this. I cannot imagine that it has to do with your conversion software/format, but I use videora without any issues. It's made for an iPhone but works perfectly for our heros since they have the same resolution. Might be worth a look.
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Iphone has A 1.3 MP Camera the Hero has 5 MP Camera they dont have the same resolution. The hero is capable of downgrading to a 1.3 resolution.

Powers16 said:
Iphone has A 1.3 MP Camera the Hero has 5 MP Camera they dont have the same resolution. The hero is capable of downgrading to a 1.3 resolution.
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Screen resolution and camera resolution are two completely different things.

My bad i thought he meant camera Res

Dochoppy said:
Handbrake for the win.
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.......yup yup.........

I've used both videora and Handbrake. I mostly have used Handbrake, but I went as far as downloading a crap ton of others to try them out and nothing fixed it, no matter how many times I tweaked the settings.
Do any of you watch movies? Not ones made by the camera on the phone, I'm talking about real movies from DVDs.

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I've used both videora and Handbrake. I mostly have used Handbrake, but I went as far as downloading a crap ton of others to try them out and nothing fixed it, no matter how many times I tweaked the settings.
Do any of you watch movies? Not ones made by the camera on the phone, I'm talking about real movies from DVDs.
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The screen resolution on the hero to me wouldn't be all too great to watch movies from. I think the EVO might be better for that among other things.

markus_del_marko said:
The screen resolution on the hero to me wouldn't be all too great to watch movies from. I think the EVO might be better for that among other things.
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It worked fine on 1.5. Screen resolution has nothing to do with it.

Nexus S and Galaxy S camera modules comparison

Here is Nexus S camera module from Ifixit.com
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And here is Galaxy's S camera module from media it:
You can see that they are little bit different... So Is that mean, that Nexus S cannot record 720p in connection with hardware problems...
Thanks!

That is a humongous difference. That's probably what allows the Galaxy S the shoot 720p. Still kinda bummed over this.

Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
that's enough

Pako7 said:
Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
that's enough
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Bummer.
10char

It appears that the NEC-10170 found in the SGS allows for 720P video capture, obsviously missing from the Nexus S.

The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.

JCopernicus said:
The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.
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My speculation. I'd assume the NEC MC-10170 does some of the processing as to make 720P recording attainable/reasonable on the SGS. There was no room on the PCB to include it in the Nexus S. I can't really find a whitepaper on the NEC MC-10170 however.
I'm interested to see how this plays out.

Sorry to recall this old thread but even that both are different, is it possible to at least get a not laggy video recording driver???, can the settings be modified in any way or can the driver be obtained from another android phone that runs the same part?, I mean there is a driver modified for the fruity phone 3G and 3GS that enables the phone to record at 720p, is it possible to get a solution like that for the Nexus or are we condemned to crappy camera vid record???

LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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Rem3Dy said:
LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.

fenrry said:
The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.
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What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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I had a galaxy s before my nexus and successfully transplanted the guts of one into the shell of another that had a dead sd card. The extra piece you see attached to the galaxy s camera is a chip that connects to the board of the galaxy, the camera has a separate chip for processing. A chip that processes 720p recording. The nexus s uses the phones hardware to process its camera. Either way, it comes down to software, not the processor. Pretty simple issue of drivers needed to process the camera image (theyre both the same camera) into 720p.
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Its not pretty simple. It can't be done in real time without the hardwade encoder. The phone simply doesn't have a fadt enough processor to software encode HD.
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sagech said:
What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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There is a very annoying and common lag, a glitch that happens once in a while, pls see the following examples:
a) at 0:09 >>>Here
b) at 0:41 >>>Here
c) at the first 20 secs >>>Here
d) at 0:15 >>>Here
e) this is mine, check at 0:10, a full second >>>Here
Not only that it happens but is random and is rather extremely annoying, I shot the other day a full 2 mins vid and it came nice but the next day I was recording for like 20 secs and it was there......btw, in the Nexus S running stock is very common and happens a lot, with the Roms is not as common but it does still happen...
If not half HD (720), at least make it so it can record smoothly, I got better vids from the fruity phone 3GS, the 9000, or my old and trusty W300i.

I'm installing a ffc ft my vibrant

I just found a article that talks about installing a ffc in the Samsung vibrant. Apparently t-mo didn't change the internals too much from the UK sgs phone.
All they did was swap the camera for a cheaper cam. The UK versions cam is easily swapable with the vibrant one giving you a ffc.
The only thing I'm confused on is that both the article and the install video both talk about specific ROM being needed that provide the functionality for the ffc to be used.
I'm currently using axura and am curious as to what I need to flash in order for this to work
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There's a pretty busy thread over in the dev section that has all the information. The main issue you should pay attention to is the banding effect it causes on the rear camera, some people are working on it but its slow going.

No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines) but in normal light it is not an issue. Use tango works great you need roughly 1.7mb 3g connection for it to work ok or be on wifi.
I have a thread on how to disassemble. it is easy to install, look up the Siirial thread as well it has alot there
I use the camera (comes from the I9000) in my vibrant and make video calls to my wife it works as good as good as the Iphone..... so those Iphone fags con just go cry
You can pm me if you run into any issues

I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
Fear the beard...

oka1 said:
No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines)
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The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.

I'm having an issue searching this thread about banding on my phone could someone post a link to the thread please.
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jayprime said:
I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
Fear the beard...
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Its pretty much updated nothing new has happened.

ytj87 said:
The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.
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Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
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Outdoors:
Low light (without night mode):
Low light (with night mode):
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI

dcontrol said:
I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI
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Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
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ironlood said:
Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
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No
Yes
Check my post ^^^
Yes
No, they weren't that funny as kids and even less funny as adults.
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Your main issue is going to be getting the camera, someone in the dev forum has one if you want it quick, other wise you'll be waiting 4weeks. It aint a bad investment even if you decide not to do the mod, cause you can sell it with your phone.
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Hey, can you confirm your ROM, camera.apk version, kernel, etc.
orells said:
Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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orells i mean no disrespect what so every but the girl in the pic is hot!!

yeah I've had the ffc on my phone for about a month. most roms are ok with it. you just need to flash the ffc mod found in the dev's thread. i'm on bionixv 1.2 or whatever the newest one is. installation wasn't hard either, just be careful about the chrome or you might bend it out of shape

Nexus S can have 720p recording

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In this version ( Vodafone AUS ) we can see it have S-LCD screen , and i think the new OTA FW have 720p update ( i hope so )

Man I hope so!!!
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?

willentrekin said:
I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.

thommcg said:
Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Assuming that ad copy is accurate.
And also assuming that this Euro version is the same hardware as the US version (which it clearly isn't since it's SLCD and not SAMOLED - who knows what other internal changes it might have).
We've been led to believe in the past that the lack of 720p video recording was a hardware bandwidth limitation...no software will change that if it's true. We could do 720p if/when some gets around to hacking in a method, but it will be at reduced framerates. I suspect a lower resolution at higher framerates will usually be a more pleasant viewing experience.

The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.

That would be the most bull**** thing Samsung haf done yet.
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The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
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Is it possible to upscale to 720i instead? Similar to tv's?
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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, keep in mind that the original launch page for the Nexus S (http://www.google.com/nexus) said it would be able to take "HD videos" on the Features page while stating only 720x480 on the Specs page. As we all know, 720x480 is "Enhanced Definition" at best, not HD.
So this could be a similar situation. Or, it might have a different camera module that has the on-board video processing chip.
Personally, I think the 720x480 video the original NS takes are actually pretty decent, and I'd much prefer the battery life improvements of an AMOLED screen over SuperLCD.

I also think the video is quite good already, but higher res wouldn't hurt. But the still camera needs some work, my NS is not nearly as good a my old vibrant.
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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demo23019 said:
this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170

When does the SLCD version hit shelves? If its a codec issue, why doesn't Google come out and say that

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these make sense, i never thought of it that way, i always knew that the GS phones had more codecs than the NS because of touchwiz and such but i never related those codecs and HD recording :O

The problem is, if its a codec issue then how do you get it onto the sns if its a matter of Google not paying for it? I don't see how anyone can fix that. How do you even get codecs on this phone? Sounds like there's no legal way to do it right?
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miss read ..removed

Are you still convinced that it's an hardware problem?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Read under encoding, and you realize by yourselves that H.264 encoding it's not supported on android 2.3.3 and before. First version of android with H.264 encoding is Honeycomb (3.0).
So it's definitely a codec thing.

Considering one of the lead Android devs said on his twitter that 720p recording is not available on the Nexus S due to hardware bandwidth limitation, I tend to believe him. I am not sure why we have ANOTHER 720p thread either. There is already a longggg one open that talks about all of this. The ad is incorrect. The SLCD version is the SAME as the AMOLED version, minus the screen.

I think it takes great pics and decent video but you kind of expect HD coming from a phone like this... NFC could have waited for the next google phone IMO.

Doesn't 2.3.3 support WebM, which is a hidef codec?

S7 video quality issues

Got my S7 edge late Friday night and took it to the beach to test out on Saturday.
I have to say, I'm taking it back if the issue I experienced isn't fixable.
https://youtu.be/6pCRRbB-Zh4
The video in the link was filmed in FHD 60 FPS, and the issue is the 'color banding' or fragmentation visible in the color of the sky throughout the recordings. Instead of being a smooth backdrop, the colors of the sky frequently seem to fragment /group up and become blocky, almost like the video is poorly compressed. Particularly visible from 1:15 onwards.
I watched someone else's video sample online and it didn't seem to suffer the same issue. Ive had a look at the settings and can't seem to see anything that may cause this. Anyone have any ideas or similar issues?

Bump - anyone else?

Let me help https://youtu.be/6pCRRbB-Zh4, now people can actually link to it. [emoji2] also I haven't seen this on mine.
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Thanks @h3ck. I think I must have a dud device - this is a screenshot of the issue in 4k, too, taken directly from my phone.
I'm trying to work with Samsung now to work out what is wrong. Looks to be compression related.
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I see what you mean, I haven't taken enough video to notice this, but when are you seeing this? After you export, after you upload, on the device itself, etc? Also, I noticed when I went to you video on YouTube it wasn't in 60fps. Not sure if you realized that.
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I see what you mean, I haven't taken enough video to notice this, but when are you seeing this? After you export, after you upload, on the device itself, etc? Also, I noticed when I went to you video on YouTube it wasn't in 60fps. Not sure if you realized that.
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This is actually from the device itself (the lock in the top corner is an s7 function and has appeared in the screenshot) - I think the fact the FHD version wasn't in 60FPS yet was maybe due to being uploaded recently - it's in 60FPS now. I've been testing this afternoon with my Note Edge - definitely better video quality on the old Note

I'm curious how it compares to s6. I had s6 and camera was magnificent. This one is supposed to be better.
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I'm curious how it compares to s6. I had s6 and camera was magnificent. This one is supposed to be better.
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I actually read a review that said the camera is better in low light but worse in daylight/where there are bright lights and/or sunlight. For me, it has a really similar effect to the old Ultrapixel cameras on the first couple of HTC Ones, i.e. when there is bright light in a photo, it just 'whites out' for want of a better word - completely loses all definition.
A photo of my living room with a lamp on just shows the lamp as a completely white orb, with no definition (Playing around with ISO and shutter speed don't help much at all.), whereas on my old Note Edge (same cam as the s6 I believe), you can make out the edges of the lamp.

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What camera module do you have in your phone ? Sony IMX 260 or Samsung Britecell ? Install Aida64 to find out.

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What camera module do you have in your phone ? Sony IMX 260 or Samsung Britecell ? Install Aida64 to find out.
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Hi CST - I have the Sony IMX

I think I see what the error is with the video. It looks like when you actually export the video the compression on it changes the quality. I would compare the actual video on the phone itself prior to exporting versus the video when it was exported. I see a significant degradation in video quality from post and pre exportation.
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So I read that YouTube doesn't even support 60fps on s7 edge yet (for viewing, so that explains why it wasn't an option for me). Secondly, what I previously mentioned holds true about conversion. Idk how people are keeping s7 video at 60 fps because mine seems to convert to plain 1080P when I trim the clip and export.
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Update - playlist featuring 3 videos indicating the blockiness and compression artifacts can be found here - others are beginning to notice the same issue
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjb1yvLQUxljakYRkd-RlPr00COjSOCcw
Also, YouTube does allow 60fps - not sure where you read that. and this artifacting is visible on the phone - i have to use youtube to be able to share samples of the problem.

next time, you can upload the original video file to dropbox or pcloud , others can view it online or download it.