Here is Nexus S camera module from Ifixit.com
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And here is Galaxy's S camera module from media it:
You can see that they are little bit different... So Is that mean, that Nexus S cannot record 720p in connection with hardware problems...
Thanks!
That is a humongous difference. That's probably what allows the Galaxy S the shoot 720p. Still kinda bummed over this.
Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
that's enough
Pako7 said:
Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
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Bummer.
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It appears that the NEC-10170 found in the SGS allows for 720P video capture, obsviously missing from the Nexus S.
The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.
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The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.
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My speculation. I'd assume the NEC MC-10170 does some of the processing as to make 720P recording attainable/reasonable on the SGS. There was no room on the PCB to include it in the Nexus S. I can't really find a whitepaper on the NEC MC-10170 however.
I'm interested to see how this plays out.
Sorry to recall this old thread but even that both are different, is it possible to at least get a not laggy video recording driver???, can the settings be modified in any way or can the driver be obtained from another android phone that runs the same part?, I mean there is a driver modified for the fruity phone 3G and 3GS that enables the phone to record at 720p, is it possible to get a solution like that for the Nexus or are we condemned to crappy camera vid record???
LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.
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The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.
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What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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I had a galaxy s before my nexus and successfully transplanted the guts of one into the shell of another that had a dead sd card. The extra piece you see attached to the galaxy s camera is a chip that connects to the board of the galaxy, the camera has a separate chip for processing. A chip that processes 720p recording. The nexus s uses the phones hardware to process its camera. Either way, it comes down to software, not the processor. Pretty simple issue of drivers needed to process the camera image (theyre both the same camera) into 720p.
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Its not pretty simple. It can't be done in real time without the hardwade encoder. The phone simply doesn't have a fadt enough processor to software encode HD.
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What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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There is a very annoying and common lag, a glitch that happens once in a while, pls see the following examples:
a) at 0:09 >>>Here
b) at 0:41 >>>Here
c) at the first 20 secs >>>Here
d) at 0:15 >>>Here
e) this is mine, check at 0:10, a full second >>>Here
Not only that it happens but is random and is rather extremely annoying, I shot the other day a full 2 mins vid and it came nice but the next day I was recording for like 20 secs and it was there......btw, in the Nexus S running stock is very common and happens a lot, with the Roms is not as common but it does still happen...
If not half HD (720), at least make it so it can record smoothly, I got better vids from the fruity phone 3GS, the 9000, or my old and trusty W300i.
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In this version ( Vodafone AUS ) we can see it have S-LCD screen , and i think the new OTA FW have 720p update ( i hope so )
Man I hope so!!!
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Assuming that ad copy is accurate.
And also assuming that this Euro version is the same hardware as the US version (which it clearly isn't since it's SLCD and not SAMOLED - who knows what other internal changes it might have).
We've been led to believe in the past that the lack of 720p video recording was a hardware bandwidth limitation...no software will change that if it's true. We could do 720p if/when some gets around to hacking in a method, but it will be at reduced framerates. I suspect a lower resolution at higher framerates will usually be a more pleasant viewing experience.
The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
That would be the most bull**** thing Samsung haf done yet.
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The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
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Is it possible to upscale to 720i instead? Similar to tv's?
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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, keep in mind that the original launch page for the Nexus S (http://www.google.com/nexus) said it would be able to take "HD videos" on the Features page while stating only 720x480 on the Specs page. As we all know, 720x480 is "Enhanced Definition" at best, not HD.
So this could be a similar situation. Or, it might have a different camera module that has the on-board video processing chip.
Personally, I think the 720x480 video the original NS takes are actually pretty decent, and I'd much prefer the battery life improvements of an AMOLED screen over SuperLCD.
I also think the video is quite good already, but higher res wouldn't hurt. But the still camera needs some work, my NS is not nearly as good a my old vibrant.
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170
When does the SLCD version hit shelves? If its a codec issue, why doesn't Google come out and say that
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these make sense, i never thought of it that way, i always knew that the GS phones had more codecs than the NS because of touchwiz and such but i never related those codecs and HD recording :O
The problem is, if its a codec issue then how do you get it onto the sns if its a matter of Google not paying for it? I don't see how anyone can fix that. How do you even get codecs on this phone? Sounds like there's no legal way to do it right?
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miss read ..removed
Are you still convinced that it's an hardware problem?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Read under encoding, and you realize by yourselves that H.264 encoding it's not supported on android 2.3.3 and before. First version of android with H.264 encoding is Honeycomb (3.0).
So it's definitely a codec thing.
Considering one of the lead Android devs said on his twitter that 720p recording is not available on the Nexus S due to hardware bandwidth limitation, I tend to believe him. I am not sure why we have ANOTHER 720p thread either. There is already a longggg one open that talks about all of this. The ad is incorrect. The SLCD version is the SAME as the AMOLED version, minus the screen.
I think it takes great pics and decent video but you kind of expect HD coming from a phone like this... NFC could have waited for the next google phone IMO.
Doesn't 2.3.3 support WebM, which is a hidef codec?
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HSPA+ up to 21Mbps 850/900/1900/2100
4G LTE
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Main(Rear) : 8 MP with LED Flash / Front : 2 MP
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the screen is way too big.
it's like a mini-tablet.
besides the screen, it seems unique to the other hundreds of android phones.
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the screen is way too big.
it's like a mini-tablet.
besides the screen, it seems unique to the other hundreds of android phones.
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I love the size and the fact it's a mini tablet.
I'm a big ass dude with big ass hands and it'll be fine or me. It could also replace my Vibrant AND my iPad 2
I love to have this thing but it might not find a way into US anytime soon
Wonder how the nexus prime will be compared to this beuty
Who's excited? I am!
Screw the GSII! Give me this, and you can have my phone and tablets.
xriderx66 said:
the screen is way too big.
it's like a mini-tablet.
besides the screen, it seems unique to the other hundreds of android phones.
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I would buy in a minute i need a large screen I have Big Hands and It would be way easier to read on it.
wow I really like it but then again I can't buy a new phone.
Not excited unless we can port a fully functional gingerbread from it...which most likely is a no go.
iynfynity said:
wow I really like it but then again I can't buy a new phone.
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It really bothered me that you only had 99 thanks...so I gave you one to give you your hundredth.
But after having a vibrant 5.3 inches seems perfectly fine by me now. I even the vibrant's screen is getting a little small, but it sure is beautiful.
This is my dream phone! Perfect screen size,great specs.Too bad it won't be available in the US
I loooove the huge screen!!!
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too bad is samsucks
nomadrider123 said:
too bad is samsucks
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Keep your hate toward Samsung to yourself if you don't like it. don't troll around and shut up please .
I definitely want this or Nexus Prime.
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xHoLyx said:
Keep your hate toward Samsung to yourself if you don't like it. don't troll around and shut up please .
I definitely want this or Nexus Prime.
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wow your the forum police You have no right to tell me what to do. I have just as much right to speak as you do. I choose not to like samsucks but that does not make me a troll. PS did you ever read the thread NEVER AGAIN. There is a lot of ppl upset with the way samsucks don't update their phones.
It's a little to small to relplace my iPad and a little too large for me to want to replace my vibrant with it... Am still mostly on the fence but am thinking the Nexus Prime will be my next phone.
For folks who don't already have an android tablet or iPad i can see this device filling both the phone and tablet role... I just think there's a bit too much of a sacrifice in the middle...
I too am wondering about the Nexus Prime
That thing is AWSOME!!!
Definitely thinking about getting this, or the prime.
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wow your the forum police You have no right to tell me what to do. I have just as much right to speak as you do. I choose not to like samsucks but that does not make me a troll. PS did you ever read the thread NEVER AGAIN. There is a lot of ppl upset with the way samsucks don't update their phones.
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Don't start. Its a forum, not facebook-_-
How have you used yor nexus 4 for taking pictures and videos on a concert? How did the videos turn out? could you post some samples? i found this on youtube and was pretty dissapointed , the sound is complete sh*t just like my galaxy nexus :crying: , have you had better luck?
Also were the glasses ok? i remember on the manual it says don't use your nexus 4 on a loud envirement, i only imagine the glass cracking because of the speakers blasting
Anyone ?
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It's just as bad as the Galaxy Nexus.
How do you know that was done with a Nexus 4?
It doesnt say anywhere on the video...
Emma Hewitt <3 trance music!
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it isnt as good an iphone 5 camera but better than g nex. I find taking the picture with HDR helps it out at concerts especially if the lights are flashing and moving around a lot. it will ensure that proper highs are captured since it takes multiple shots and blends them.
I've taken videos with my galaxy s2 international and the sound was absolutely horrible. I don't think mics on cell phones are designed to handle such loud and varying sound. Haven't had an opportunity with my nexus tho but I bet sound sucks.
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I did, sound was very bad! So yes, that is the way it is!
I did take my Nexus 4 to a gig and took some pics (not videos). The results were predictably terrible.
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How do you know that was done with a Nexus 4?
It doesnt say anywhere on the video...
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It says so in the description on the video when you search for it in YouTube , but not on the video itself when you open it , weird
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I did take my Nexus 4 to a gig and took some pics (not videos). The results were predictably terrible.
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I did, sound was very bad! So yes, that is the way it is!
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Could you share them ? Videos and pics please , I'm very curious
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it isnt as good an iphone 5 camera but better than g nex. I find taking the picture with HDR helps it out at concerts especially if the lights are flashing and moving around a lot. it will ensure that proper highs are captured since it takes multiple shots and blends them.
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Thanks for the advice I will make sure to keep in mind when I go the knife's concert pretty soon
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Sorry for the late reply, forgot to check back in this thread. Here are some pics. I wasn't at the front or anything; just wanted to snap some quick "I was here" pics.
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Sorry for the late reply, forgot to check back in this thread. Here are some pics. I wasn't at the front or anything; just wanted to snap some quick "I was here" pics.
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they look pretty bad
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How have you used yor nexus 4 for taking pictures and videos on a concert? How did the videos turn out? could you post some samples? i found this on youtube and was pretty dissapointed , the sound is complete sh*t just like my galaxy nexus :crying: , have you had better luck?
Also were the glasses ok? i remember on the manual it says don't use your nexus 4 on a loud envirement, i only imagine the glass cracking because of the speakers blasting
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As a matter of curiosity, what did you expect?
With a little tweaking u can fix all those issues.
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Hello everyone, I'm a new S4 i9505 "happy" owner.
I'm happy with everything about my new phone, EXCEPT when it comes to the Youtube application.
Whether I'm on 3G/4G or Wifi, the quality of videos is definitely BAD... borders look blurry, unacceptable. And I'm talking about HD videos. Videos that are supposed to be 1080p.
Yes, the HD option is turned on.
My friend owns an HTC One and Youtube videos looks just great, just the way they're supposed to be.
How is this possible? Do I have a defective device? In any other situation the display looks perfectly fine.
Did anybody else notice this?
Thanks in advance.
I just checked and it happens to me too ... i have the gt i9500 ...
have you guys tried updating the application an update came out a couple of days back ...
i hav i9500 and didnt face any problems like this till now....
UPDATE:
Ok, this is pretty strange.
I decided to uninstall the downloaded Youtube app and restore the stock one (I run the latest Samsung firmware).
SURPRISE! Problem is GONE! Videos are now crystal clear! Just as they should be.
I wander where the problem is with the latest Youtube app... During the playback I click the "HD" symbol (option on top right of the screen) and it seems turned ON (no red line under though.
Anyone else tried??
Quality on my i9100 is poor even in hd. I'm running carbon room 1.8 and things were fine before YouTube update...
I have the same problem on my Galaxy S2 LTE. It has nothing to do with my network, Wi-Fi, or video quality as I've read elsewhere.
Videos looked clear with the old YouTube, but when they updated the interface, videos look pixelated when in full screen. It's like they left out the smoothing for when videos get resized.
Yup I can confirm the video quality on the latest YouTube app it terrible.
I used an older version and it's great
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Yup I can confirm the video quality on the latest YouTube app it terrible.
I used an older version and it's great
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Well, no. Video quality on the latest Youtube app (v5.021) is simply awesome :good:
Have you increased the video quality in setting's? I'm playing full 1080 videos. No issues here
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I have the same problem with the new UI (latest version). Playing movies in HD quality looks a lot worse than in the previous version. Don't really wanna roll back because I love the new design. Hope someone finds a fix.
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Anyone found a solution yet?
I hate the new version's video quality.
I 've been Googling for a solution but haven't found one yet. There are multiple topics about this though but none have a solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2414543
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/nRKQSLD95Qw
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1885518
http://androidforums.com/nexus-7-2013/765061-youtube-poor-video-quality.html
I wonder if it 's only a minority that is bothered by it or if people just don't see it. I 'm gonna do a rollback and I 'll try and post a before & after pic to show the difference.
Ok, I 've made a comparison of one of my movies with the two latest versions:
Version 4.5.17 (previous version of Youtube, with the old UI):
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You can clearly see a difference especially around the edges. It 's harder to spot in a still than in a movie but you can still see it. Look closely at the edges of my jacket, the snow, the funbox or the treeline
I 'm sticking with version 4.5.17 until Google fixes this. Even though I like the new UI, it doesn't really add anything besides the stupid floating window which I actually find annoying.
My device is a Desire HD running Mustaavalkosta 's CM10.1 SR1.1 ROM. Resolution of this device is 800x480 on a 4.3" screen.
People keep assuming it's to do with video quality, but it's not. Poor video quality creates a kind of fuzzy blurry. Bad resizing without smoothing (is it called interpolation or anti aliasing?) creates a sharp pixelated effect which is what's happening.
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People keep assuming it's to do with video quality, but it's not. Poor video quality creates a kind of fuzzy blurry. Bad resizing without smoothing (is it called interpolation or anti aliasing?) creates a sharp pixelated effect which is what's happening.
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That is exactly what it looks like. You see this a lot in games but I had never seen this before in movies. It 's like they disabled AA for some reason.
Got the new Galaxy Note 3 and am glad to say the pixelated effect is not present on stock Jellybean. It is still present on my Skyrocket with CM11, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
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The latest version finally solved this!!
Last version of youtube and no problem:thumbup:
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I recorded a whole bunch of 4K at a concert last night. The phone got hot and my battery drained at over 60% an hour!
I'll post some of the video after it finishes uploading.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nanbrfg6nbun9xx/2014-10-02 16.15.04.png
Thought I'd share. I didn't feel that this fit into either the battery thread or the camera thread, respectively, which is why I made a separate topic. My apologies if this assumption was incorrect.
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Apparently I'm having trouble uploading atm, I will try later
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Dude re upload I wanna see
Weird.. Still not working for me. Here is a Dropbox link https://www.dropbox.com/s/nanbrfg6nbun9xx/2014-10-02 16.15.04.png?dl=0
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Probably just record 1080p lol an hour of recording is a long time for a phone. Especially considering the processor, battery, and screen will be producing heat the whole time.
Thanks @bfranklin1986, I could've tried harder I suppose lol.
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furrycurry said:
Probably just record 1080p lol an hour of recording is a long time for a phone. Especially considering the processor, battery, and screen will be producing heat the whole time.
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Oh but I loved it! It's so crisp and clear! You lose the ability to take pictures during recording, but who needs to when your essentially taking 30 8mp pictures a second??
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I cannot wait
Mine is in the mail now I cannot wait to try out the 4k recording feature.
I was kind of hoping for at least a clip of the footage.
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I was kind of hoping for at least a clip of the footage.
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I'm sorry, I have poor Internet and am still trying to upload my favorite clip.
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Mine is in the mail now I cannot wait to try out the 4k recording feature.
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It's great! But even more fun to play with is the slow motion recording
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The temperatures really don't seem too be too bad considering how long you recorded 4k
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It's normal to see this draining by a 4k record and encoding. BTW, why you recorded in 4k? Do you have any 4k TV in house?
cchant said:
The temperatures really don't seem too be too bad considering how long you recorded 4k
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Well it FELT really hot lol. The only other time it's got that hot was when I accidentally put my pillow over it whilst charging, or when it's in direct sunlight.
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Elvecio said:
It's normal to see this draining by a 4k record and encoding. BTW, why you recorded in 4k? Do you have any 4k TV in house?
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I don't know, 4K seems like it takes a lot of horsepower to record, so the drain seems about right, to me anyway.
Although the new go pro records 4K but keeps the same battery life as the old models without it, but then again that is specialized hardware.
I do not have a 4K TV sadly, but I figured I could pull 8mp stills from the video
Here is one of the clips with the best audio, because the bass there completely overwhelmed the microphone on most the others lol.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/6few8kvil56fqy9/AACc5bu63Ras_WMvXQ4gGYT1a
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