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In this version ( Vodafone AUS ) we can see it have S-LCD screen , and i think the new OTA FW have 720p update ( i hope so )
Man I hope so!!!
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
willentrekin said:
I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Assuming that ad copy is accurate.
And also assuming that this Euro version is the same hardware as the US version (which it clearly isn't since it's SLCD and not SAMOLED - who knows what other internal changes it might have).
We've been led to believe in the past that the lack of 720p video recording was a hardware bandwidth limitation...no software will change that if it's true. We could do 720p if/when some gets around to hacking in a method, but it will be at reduced framerates. I suspect a lower resolution at higher framerates will usually be a more pleasant viewing experience.
The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
That would be the most bull**** thing Samsung haf done yet.
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The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
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Is it possible to upscale to 720i instead? Similar to tv's?
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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, keep in mind that the original launch page for the Nexus S (http://www.google.com/nexus) said it would be able to take "HD videos" on the Features page while stating only 720x480 on the Specs page. As we all know, 720x480 is "Enhanced Definition" at best, not HD.
So this could be a similar situation. Or, it might have a different camera module that has the on-board video processing chip.
Personally, I think the 720x480 video the original NS takes are actually pretty decent, and I'd much prefer the battery life improvements of an AMOLED screen over SuperLCD.
I also think the video is quite good already, but higher res wouldn't hurt. But the still camera needs some work, my NS is not nearly as good a my old vibrant.
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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demo23019 said:
this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170
When does the SLCD version hit shelves? If its a codec issue, why doesn't Google come out and say that
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170
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these make sense, i never thought of it that way, i always knew that the GS phones had more codecs than the NS because of touchwiz and such but i never related those codecs and HD recording :O
The problem is, if its a codec issue then how do you get it onto the sns if its a matter of Google not paying for it? I don't see how anyone can fix that. How do you even get codecs on this phone? Sounds like there's no legal way to do it right?
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miss read ..removed
Are you still convinced that it's an hardware problem?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Read under encoding, and you realize by yourselves that H.264 encoding it's not supported on android 2.3.3 and before. First version of android with H.264 encoding is Honeycomb (3.0).
So it's definitely a codec thing.
Considering one of the lead Android devs said on his twitter that 720p recording is not available on the Nexus S due to hardware bandwidth limitation, I tend to believe him. I am not sure why we have ANOTHER 720p thread either. There is already a longggg one open that talks about all of this. The ad is incorrect. The SLCD version is the SAME as the AMOLED version, minus the screen.
I think it takes great pics and decent video but you kind of expect HD coming from a phone like this... NFC could have waited for the next google phone IMO.
Doesn't 2.3.3 support WebM, which is a hidef codec?
Related
Okay, so I've had my Nexus one for a while now, and I was wondering what they could possibly do to the nexus 2 that would make it even better. I'm thinking probably a faster processor, and more ram, but what else comes to mind?
would love to see a FM Trans to like "broadcast" to the radio....Like those transmitters for mp3 players....Would be siiiick to have pandora or something playing over car radio via my phone
Don't they have something that does that already?
better use of the snapdragon processor, but that's software related... I would like it to be more durable such as made from a single block of aluminium. Also a powerful graphics chip.
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better use of the snapdragon processor, but that's software related... I would like it to be more durable such as made from a single block of aluminium. Also a powerful graphics chip.
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The HTC Legend is a sexy beast lol. I'd like to get my hands on one if it goes GSM.
Yeah, a more powerful graphics chip would be awesome, I just can't wait til the big developers start moving towards android so we can have some of the awesome games and apps the iPhone has.
HD2.
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Win.
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lol @ windows logo with android
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lol @ windows logo with android
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I'm guessing you don't know that the HD2 is
Maybe they'd include a secondary camera, FM and a coffee maker
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lol @ windows logo with android
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I second this. God that thing is amazing. But it won't look right until the Supersonic comes out. THEN a decent Rom will be possible in my eyes.
But with Windows Phone 7 I can imagine the devs are busy porting that to it right now.
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Heh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xok9E8SRCS0
Google HTC Scorpion......should be gsm of exactly what your dreaming of
Not that I could care less... but I would really love for the N2 to have a true multi-touch screen to shut that debate down... 1GB of RAM, 4GB internal ROM, 4" screen, XVGA LCD or SuperAMOLED... I don't like AMOLED for outdoor use. 10MP camera, with xenon flash... and of course Android 3.1!
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Not that I could care less... but I would really love for the N2 to have a true multi-touch screen to shut that debate down... 1GB of RAM, 4GB internal ROM, 4" screen, XVGA LCD or SuperAMOLED... I don't like AMOLED for outdoor use. 10MP camera, with xenon flash... and of course Android 3.1!
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For less than $500 right?
I will be keeping my Nexus for 2 or more years, whatever comes around the corner - i'll just port it over to the Nexus.. since the N1 is like the G1 in terms of development and popularity, I should be ok for a while..
(this is really what I'm just telling myself.. I dont want my precious Nexus to become.. not worth the time of day anymore...)
Why does technology have to advance so fast!! =(
front facing camera for video chat, a high quality speaker-phone, a kickstand with a projected laser keyboard? an hd projector component
hardware keyboard
x
I myself am sick of the having to chase technology.... I'm done for a bit, my n1 will sufficient for a year, I think thats a good time to get a new phone, once every year...
N1 just needs adobe flash and apps to sd and ill be happy as a cucumber....
Video recording capability @ 24 frames per second (constant!) with DECENT audio quality ... like the Milestone. Why have a 480x720 video resolution when the video is laggy and audio is utter crap? Also a flash option on the video recording would also be good - again, just like the Milestone.
Finally, make FM radio work and you have the perfect device.
the 1ghz processor is enough for me. the current amount of ram is enough- maybe a tad bump is cool.
get rid of the amoled display, 4-4.3 inch display. no trackball. sleep/wake from a hardware button like g1/mytouch. being able to shoot hd video.
other than that... having the nexus one has finally made me not eager to look/have the next best cellular device. this n1 almost kicks my netbooks ass
I've tried re-encoding the movies and messing with the settings, but I always end up with much crappier video than when it played on 1.5. I don't remember 1.5 having the banding issues in the darker colors, but in 2.1 it's really quite horrible. Has anyone found a solution to this? Even youtube videos look like garbage. I thought the final release would possibly fix this, but it hasn't.
They have the 2.1 source now, so expect fixes in the camera since thats everyone's problem lol maybe they can implement 1.5 camera in the 2.1 rom who knows.
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They have the 2.1 source now, so expect fixes in the camera since thats everyone's problem lol maybe they can implement 1.5 camera in the 2.1 rom who knows.
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Devs had 2.1 source before, and have had for a long time. What devs do NOT have is source for the HTC .29 kernel (yet).
It's not really the camera I'm talking about... I probably should have been clear. lol Sorry, I was just a little disappointed..
I have some movies that I ripped from my dvd collection that I watch once in a while on my phone. On 1.5, I never noticed any "Banding" issues. The video would be smooth and look really good. But since I updated to 2.1 (custom roms with leaks) the video just looks like crap, especially if it's darker. You can see pixelated areas and severe banding. Especially in Total Recall and The Thing from Another Planet (1950s one). The darker areas are just crappy looking. Tons of banding issues and pixelation.
Those of you who dont know what banding is..
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**edit** i havent recorded a video since fresh 2.0d and i just now recorded a video on the new 2.1 oc fresh toast rom and i get this lol. Very odd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5kh1aq3g-o
I personally have not noticed this. I cannot imagine that it has to do with your conversion software/format, but I use videora without any issues. It's made for an iPhone but works perfectly for our heros since they have the same resolution. Might be worth a look.
Handbrake for the win.
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I personally have not noticed this. I cannot imagine that it has to do with your conversion software/format, but I use videora without any issues. It's made for an iPhone but works perfectly for our heros since they have the same resolution. Might be worth a look.
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Iphone has A 1.3 MP Camera the Hero has 5 MP Camera they dont have the same resolution. The hero is capable of downgrading to a 1.3 resolution.
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Iphone has A 1.3 MP Camera the Hero has 5 MP Camera they dont have the same resolution. The hero is capable of downgrading to a 1.3 resolution.
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Screen resolution and camera resolution are two completely different things.
My bad i thought he meant camera Res
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.......yup yup.........
I've used both videora and Handbrake. I mostly have used Handbrake, but I went as far as downloading a crap ton of others to try them out and nothing fixed it, no matter how many times I tweaked the settings.
Do any of you watch movies? Not ones made by the camera on the phone, I'm talking about real movies from DVDs.
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I've used both videora and Handbrake. I mostly have used Handbrake, but I went as far as downloading a crap ton of others to try them out and nothing fixed it, no matter how many times I tweaked the settings.
Do any of you watch movies? Not ones made by the camera on the phone, I'm talking about real movies from DVDs.
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The screen resolution on the hero to me wouldn't be all too great to watch movies from. I think the EVO might be better for that among other things.
markus_del_marko said:
The screen resolution on the hero to me wouldn't be all too great to watch movies from. I think the EVO might be better for that among other things.
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It worked fine on 1.5. Screen resolution has nothing to do with it.
anyone have a chance to load videos on your epic? I took the16gb card home the other day, put clash of the titans and super troopers on it. The screen KILLS the evo screen! SO awesome.
I've seen another post where the OP claimed the EPIC screen wasn't glass...which I can't imagine.
Could you confirm one way or the other?
Thanks,
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I've seen another post where the OP claimed the EPIC screen wasn't glass...which I can't imagine.
Could you confirm one way or the other?
Thanks,
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The current Super AMOLED is glass..the next one coming in 2011 will be indestructible thin film.
http://wmpoweruser.com/samsung-prom...ption-double-life-span-of-new-amoled-screens/
I've looking and found conflicting answers, but what file types does the Epic support?
mp4, dvix, and a few more? What about AVI or others?
I wish I had the chance to play with mine, but we're supposed to have 6 reps in store and we only have 2. So between 12 hour shifts and lines out the door, not much time playing with the device, sadly.
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I've looking and found conflicting answers, but what file types does the Epic support?
mp4, dvix, and a few more? What about AVI or others?
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Its supposed to support a huge amount of video formats... everything from avi to mkv
I'm really excited about that.
NeonMonster said:
I've looking and found conflicting answers, but what file types does the Epic support?
mp4, dvix, and a few more? What about AVI or others?
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If the internals are anything like the other Galaxy S's, it should play all those formats, NATIVELY. The Galaxy S lines are one of the most well rounded when it comes to media file playback. Samsung's wide support of these media dates back to their Yepp mp3 player days and all with fantastic linear audio quality output.
Just check out how linear this thing is:
A quote from gsmarena.com
Perfect audio quality
Like many other things about this handset, the audio output of the Samsung I9000 Galaxy S is downright impressive. The handset was reasonably loud and scored excellently on each and every reading in our test.
The signal-to-noise ratio is impressive and so are the flawless dynamic range and frequency response.
The distortion levels are also top-notch and generally there is nothing about the Galaxy S audio quality that we can frown at. And here go the results so you can see for yourselves.
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All of this is thanks to mDNSE - mobile Digital Natural Sound Engine chip. This is the mobile version of the DNSE chip found on their TVs, DVD and other home theater systems.
Has anyone confirmed the video codec support? Since the Epic isn't shipping with the same version of TW as the others, it could be missing some of the codec support found in them.
One of the things holding me back is the screen actually. I tried a Vibrant and noticed the smaller screen, same thing applies to the Epic
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One of the things holding me back is the screen actually. I tried a Vibrant and noticed the smaller screen, same thing applies to the Epic
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while the screen is a little smaller than the evo, the screen display is soo vivid. I took the 16gb micro SD card home, d/l'ed clash of the titans 720P .mkv and hot tub time machine, (and put super troopers .avi) and it looks AMAZING. It kills the evo screen. Lighter than the evo. Battery life is awesome on it. I got my coworkers in the rolodex and we just go in the back and text each other from it all day. Love love love this phone. When my boss told me I would be the advocate for this device, I was depressed for about a week or so because I have had nothing but HTC since my mogul, and the moment was not that great of a phone (and the intercept isnt anything worthwhile either... and if I had a dollar for everytime someone complained about a samsung inSTINKt!!! lol). Now, I dont feel bad at all cheating on the HTC brand. This phone is epic! If I find some fatal flaw after it being in my posession after launch.... well, I still have my full upgrade to get the evo, or whatever the next 4g phone will be...
/rant lol
Here is Nexus S camera module from Ifixit.com
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And here is Galaxy's S camera module from media it:
You can see that they are little bit different... So Is that mean, that Nexus S cannot record 720p in connection with hardware problems...
Thanks!
That is a humongous difference. That's probably what allows the Galaxy S the shoot 720p. Still kinda bummed over this.
Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
that's enough
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Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
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Bummer.
10char
It appears that the NEC-10170 found in the SGS allows for 720P video capture, obsviously missing from the Nexus S.
The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.
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The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.
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My speculation. I'd assume the NEC MC-10170 does some of the processing as to make 720P recording attainable/reasonable on the SGS. There was no room on the PCB to include it in the Nexus S. I can't really find a whitepaper on the NEC MC-10170 however.
I'm interested to see how this plays out.
Sorry to recall this old thread but even that both are different, is it possible to at least get a not laggy video recording driver???, can the settings be modified in any way or can the driver be obtained from another android phone that runs the same part?, I mean there is a driver modified for the fruity phone 3G and 3GS that enables the phone to record at 720p, is it possible to get a solution like that for the Nexus or are we condemned to crappy camera vid record???
LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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Rem3Dy said:
LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.
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The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.
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What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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I had a galaxy s before my nexus and successfully transplanted the guts of one into the shell of another that had a dead sd card. The extra piece you see attached to the galaxy s camera is a chip that connects to the board of the galaxy, the camera has a separate chip for processing. A chip that processes 720p recording. The nexus s uses the phones hardware to process its camera. Either way, it comes down to software, not the processor. Pretty simple issue of drivers needed to process the camera image (theyre both the same camera) into 720p.
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Its not pretty simple. It can't be done in real time without the hardwade encoder. The phone simply doesn't have a fadt enough processor to software encode HD.
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What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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There is a very annoying and common lag, a glitch that happens once in a while, pls see the following examples:
a) at 0:09 >>>Here
b) at 0:41 >>>Here
c) at the first 20 secs >>>Here
d) at 0:15 >>>Here
e) this is mine, check at 0:10, a full second >>>Here
Not only that it happens but is random and is rather extremely annoying, I shot the other day a full 2 mins vid and it came nice but the next day I was recording for like 20 secs and it was there......btw, in the Nexus S running stock is very common and happens a lot, with the Roms is not as common but it does still happen...
If not half HD (720), at least make it so it can record smoothly, I got better vids from the fruity phone 3GS, the 9000, or my old and trusty W300i.
Network
HSPA+ up to 21Mbps 850/900/1900/2100
4G LTE
EDGE/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900
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1.4GHz Dual Core Processor
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5.3” WXGA (1280 x 800, 285 PPI) screen*
HD Super AMOLED
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Android™ 2.3(Gingerbread)
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Main(Rear) : 8 MP with LED Flash / Front : 2 MP
Action Shot, Beauty, Panorama Shot, Smile Shot
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1080p Full HD video recording & playback
Recording: [email protected]~30fps/ Playback: [email protected]
Codec: MPEG4/ H.263/ H.264/ DivX, Xvid, WMV, VC-1
Audio
Codec : MP3, AAC, AMR, WMA, WAV, FLAC, OGG
Music Player with SoundAlive
3.5mm Ear Jack, Stereo FM Radio with RDS
Multi Input
Full touch
+ S Pen (Advanced smart pen)
Connectivity
Bluetooth® technology v 3.0 + HS
USB 2.0 HOST
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct
Sensor
Accelerometer, Digital compass, Proximity,
Barometer,Light
Memory
16GB Internal memory
+ microSD (up to 32GB)
Size
146.85 x 82.95 x 9.65 mm, 178g
Battery
Standard battery, Li-on 2,500 mAh
Value-added Features
Samsung Touchwiz/ Samsung Live Panel UX
S Memo/ S Planner/ S Choice (Apps for GALAXY Note)
Samsung Apps
Samsung kies 2.0/ Samsung kies air
Social Hub, Readers Hub, Music Hub
Google™ Mobile Services : Gmail™, Google Talk™,
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A-GPS, Glonass
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the screen is way too big.
it's like a mini-tablet.
besides the screen, it seems unique to the other hundreds of android phones.
xriderx66 said:
the screen is way too big.
it's like a mini-tablet.
besides the screen, it seems unique to the other hundreds of android phones.
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I love the size and the fact it's a mini tablet.
I'm a big ass dude with big ass hands and it'll be fine or me. It could also replace my Vibrant AND my iPad 2
I love to have this thing but it might not find a way into US anytime soon
Wonder how the nexus prime will be compared to this beuty
Who's excited? I am!
Screw the GSII! Give me this, and you can have my phone and tablets.
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the screen is way too big.
it's like a mini-tablet.
besides the screen, it seems unique to the other hundreds of android phones.
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I would buy in a minute i need a large screen I have Big Hands and It would be way easier to read on it.
wow I really like it but then again I can't buy a new phone.
Not excited unless we can port a fully functional gingerbread from it...which most likely is a no go.
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wow I really like it but then again I can't buy a new phone.
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It really bothered me that you only had 99 thanks...so I gave you one to give you your hundredth.
But after having a vibrant 5.3 inches seems perfectly fine by me now. I even the vibrant's screen is getting a little small, but it sure is beautiful.
This is my dream phone! Perfect screen size,great specs.Too bad it won't be available in the US
I loooove the huge screen!!!
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too bad is samsucks
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too bad is samsucks
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Keep your hate toward Samsung to yourself if you don't like it. don't troll around and shut up please .
I definitely want this or Nexus Prime.
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Keep your hate toward Samsung to yourself if you don't like it. don't troll around and shut up please .
I definitely want this or Nexus Prime.
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wow your the forum police You have no right to tell me what to do. I have just as much right to speak as you do. I choose not to like samsucks but that does not make me a troll. PS did you ever read the thread NEVER AGAIN. There is a lot of ppl upset with the way samsucks don't update their phones.
It's a little to small to relplace my iPad and a little too large for me to want to replace my vibrant with it... Am still mostly on the fence but am thinking the Nexus Prime will be my next phone.
For folks who don't already have an android tablet or iPad i can see this device filling both the phone and tablet role... I just think there's a bit too much of a sacrifice in the middle...
I too am wondering about the Nexus Prime
That thing is AWSOME!!!
Definitely thinking about getting this, or the prime.
Sent from my SGH-T959
nomadrider123 said:
wow your the forum police You have no right to tell me what to do. I have just as much right to speak as you do. I choose not to like samsucks but that does not make me a troll. PS did you ever read the thread NEVER AGAIN. There is a lot of ppl upset with the way samsucks don't update their phones.
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Don't start. Its a forum, not facebook-_-