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Already have a Nexus One

I bought my N1 with no contract, so on T-mobile i can get a Vibrant for like 160 if i renew for 2 more years. I already have my N1, is there a compelling reason to go for the Vibrant? Besides the nice screen does it do anything better than the N1 already can?

Better Camera for pictures
720p HD video recording and playback (not sure if N1 can do 720p play back)
Pocket $200+ when you sell your N1

I just sold my Nexus One this morning. I'm having a lot more fun with the Vibrant!

There are some people on this forum that went from the N1 to Vibrant; I don't know if I would. The Vibrant is really nice, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. If I were in your shoes I'd wait and see what comes out later this year. Gingerbread will be out by the end of the year, and there are supposed to be some killer devices coming out to go with it.
However I did come from an N900 so it's not like I was really doing that bad, either...

If I had a N1 I would wait for the next gen phones before upgrading (end of year, early 2011). Unless you have to have the latest and greatest, then buy the Vibrant and get the next gen when it comes out as well.

Here's a new vid that just came out,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFPtV8I2BRQ&feature=player_embedded#!

I sold my n1 for this. I think its a good upgrade... there's a few things I miss but the fact that its harder to replace since I can get it replaced in stores and Google's done making em..
Also I needed a true MT screen and the gpu. Other than that I thing there pretty even. Oh and this gorgeous screen....

Non-rooted Nexus One can't do 720p.. but if you root it and apply the hack (or ROM includes it) then it can do 720p recording on the Nexus.

The Vibrant cannot do 720p playback, the resolution of the phone can only do 480p at the most. It can play 720, but it will have no benifit vs a 480 version of the same clip. The nexus can play the same resolution clips that the vibrant can, but the vibrant has more video codecs to play.

I wouldn't have gone from N1 to Vibrant. There is not enough of a difference

I have the N1 and won't be changing. I bought a Vibrant for dev at work and thought I might switch personally but you currently give up as much as you gain. The positives are listed above, but you lose:
-froyo (for now)
-trackball (nice sometimes)
-camera flash
-future 'first' Android updates
Plus, the annoying home button lag is real. Sounds like the only way to currently fix is is rooting and moving over all the apps to NAND, which negates the app storage advantage (which was initially my biggest want).

Seraph321 said:
I have the N1 and won't be changing. I bought a Vibrant for dev at work and thought I might switch personally but you currently give up as much as you gain. The positives are listed above, but you lose:
-froyo (for now)
-trackball (nice sometimes)
-camera flash
-future 'first' Android updates
Plus, the annoying home button lag is real. Sounds like the only way to currently fix is is rooting and moving over all the apps to NAND, which negates the app storage advantage (which was initially my biggest want).
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- Trackball: Swype has a trackball in it.. sort of but works well
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- Camera flash: People exaggerate the importance of it but really its not even needed.. Check: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/07/is-the-samsung-vibrant-night-mode-a-worthwhile-replacement-to-flash/
- Future 'first' Android update: thats what rooting is for. CyanogenMod6 is in the works on being ported to Vibrant with WesGarner (well known dev) working on it.

OS4 on Magic

looks like magic!
is it possible?
ttp://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3ODQxNTI4.html

tgm04 said:
looks like magic!
is it possible?
ttp://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3ODQxNTI4.html
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Cant view due to lack of flash, but if its what think it is, NOOOOO!!!!!!
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ok, wow .. that video is VERY convincing .. either they made a htc magic housing for an iphone, or it's real.
I want to see that in person.

foobar83 said:
ok, wow .. that video is VERY convincing .. either they made a htc magic housing for an iphone, or it's real.
I want to see that in person.
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Don't see how it could simply be a housing, because the camera lens on the Magic is in the center, and in the iPhone its on the left corner, i seriously think it's legit. I mean, Android itself was ported to the iPhone, so why not iOS to android?

would there be any other link to view this video?
i can't seem to see it,keeps giving me some error that i do not understand
i get the error nomatter what browser i use

Well, it's going to be fake...
I live in the UK, when I tried to play the video I got a message that it was blocked in this region, using a US based VPN solved the issue though.
I'll get the video mirrored shortly.

Mirror here, play with VLC.
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I'm honestly not sure what to think, really. Since all iPhones have 3.5" screens, a Magic case would need to fit proportionally, so someone would need to make a bigger magic-esque housing, and that one looked pretty damn real (notice the backlit keys).
I could just be a video playing, but the screen seemed to be quite responsive.
It's definitely not a theme either...

Kudos for getting the iOS4 working with anything but proprietary apple hardware, but isn't this like replacing your high-tech, highly-customizeable batmobile with something much worse?

It's interesting that the wallpaper slides along with the icons like it does on Android, I didn't think that was possible on iPhone OS. I can only assume it's just an application mimicking iPhone OS (notice how the home button is bound to the back button).

AdrianK said:
Mirror here, play with VLC.
I'm honestly not sure what to think, really. Since all iPhones have 3.5" screens, a Magic case would need to fit proportionally, so someone would need to make a bigger magic-esque housing, and that one looked pretty damn real (notice the backlit keys).
I could just be a video playing, but the screen seemed to be quite responsive.
It's definitely not a theme either...
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thanks for the mirror
if im not wrong, ios's wallpaper does not move when swiping from screen to screen

css626 said:
thanks for the mirror
if im not wrong, ios's wallpaper does not move when swiping from screen to screen
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It doesn't. I have an iPod touch with iOS4. Of course, mine has the nexus lines live wallpaper. XD
This is really cool, and I doubt its fake. It has to be very possible to port it, just who would really want to? You get nothing more than a few bragging rights because I doubt many people want iOS4 over Android 1.6 2.1 or 2.2. The ONLY thing iOS4 has which is probably more hardware related is crisp graphics. Games look AMAZING on iPhones and iPods but pretty bad on Android devices.

www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885 IPHONE OS

szb314 said:
www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885 IPHONE OS
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wheres download link? and its weird language so please post link?

It seems you have to be a member of that forum to get the link/file

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hiapk.com%2Fbbs%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D419885
Well there's an attachment but you need to register, I can't get past the CAPTCHA :-(
EDIT: My bad, didn't see the link above. Meh.

Now I'm no programmer, but I know a couple, and I think one prerequisite to port anything from one platform to another is the source code?
Now who, other than a highly trained special ops team, is going to be able to get that out of Apple?
I call fake on this - most likely a video playing on the phone, and the 'user' is just on the ball mimicking the gestures...

Well, the attachments are just screenshots from the video. And Google Translate says the other users are waiting for a release too.

R3dF1v3 said:
I call fake on this - most likely a video playing on the phone, and the 'user' is just on the ball mimicking the gestures...
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It could also be a skin - I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case, actually! Anyway, looks great, I wouldn't mind trying it out.

v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk5MzQ0OTQw.html
19/08/2010 phone works it's true

Right. Showing videos without a real product is the way to do it. Great.

Advocates, Unite!

anyone have a chance to load videos on your epic? I took the16gb card home the other day, put clash of the titans and super troopers on it. The screen KILLS the evo screen! SO awesome.

I've seen another post where the OP claimed the EPIC screen wasn't glass...which I can't imagine.
Could you confirm one way or the other?
Thanks,

jfenton57 said:
I've seen another post where the OP claimed the EPIC screen wasn't glass...which I can't imagine.
Could you confirm one way or the other?
Thanks,
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The current Super AMOLED is glass..the next one coming in 2011 will be indestructible thin film.
http://wmpoweruser.com/samsung-prom...ption-double-life-span-of-new-amoled-screens/

I've looking and found conflicting answers, but what file types does the Epic support?
mp4, dvix, and a few more? What about AVI or others?

I wish I had the chance to play with mine, but we're supposed to have 6 reps in store and we only have 2. So between 12 hour shifts and lines out the door, not much time playing with the device, sadly.

NeonMonster said:
I've looking and found conflicting answers, but what file types does the Epic support?
mp4, dvix, and a few more? What about AVI or others?
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Its supposed to support a huge amount of video formats... everything from avi to mkv
I'm really excited about that.

NeonMonster said:
I've looking and found conflicting answers, but what file types does the Epic support?
mp4, dvix, and a few more? What about AVI or others?
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If the internals are anything like the other Galaxy S's, it should play all those formats, NATIVELY. The Galaxy S lines are one of the most well rounded when it comes to media file playback. Samsung's wide support of these media dates back to their Yepp mp3 player days and all with fantastic linear audio quality output.
Just check out how linear this thing is:
A quote from gsmarena.com
Perfect audio quality
Like many other things about this handset, the audio output of the Samsung I9000 Galaxy S is downright impressive. The handset was reasonably loud and scored excellently on each and every reading in our test.
The signal-to-noise ratio is impressive and so are the flawless dynamic range and frequency response.
The distortion levels are also top-notch and generally there is nothing about the Galaxy S audio quality that we can frown at. And here go the results so you can see for yourselves.
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All of this is thanks to mDNSE - mobile Digital Natural Sound Engine chip. This is the mobile version of the DNSE chip found on their TVs, DVD and other home theater systems.

Has anyone confirmed the video codec support? Since the Epic isn't shipping with the same version of TW as the others, it could be missing some of the codec support found in them.

One of the things holding me back is the screen actually. I tried a Vibrant and noticed the smaller screen, same thing applies to the Epic

Vandam500 said:
One of the things holding me back is the screen actually. I tried a Vibrant and noticed the smaller screen, same thing applies to the Epic
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while the screen is a little smaller than the evo, the screen display is soo vivid. I took the 16gb micro SD card home, d/l'ed clash of the titans 720P .mkv and hot tub time machine, (and put super troopers .avi) and it looks AMAZING. It kills the evo screen. Lighter than the evo. Battery life is awesome on it. I got my coworkers in the rolodex and we just go in the back and text each other from it all day. Love love love this phone. When my boss told me I would be the advocate for this device, I was depressed for about a week or so because I have had nothing but HTC since my mogul, and the moment was not that great of a phone (and the intercept isnt anything worthwhile either... and if I had a dollar for everytime someone complained about a samsung inSTINKt!!! lol). Now, I dont feel bad at all cheating on the HTC brand. This phone is epic! If I find some fatal flaw after it being in my posession after launch.... well, I still have my full upgrade to get the evo, or whatever the next 4g phone will be...
/rant lol

I'm installing a ffc ft my vibrant

I just found a article that talks about installing a ffc in the Samsung vibrant. Apparently t-mo didn't change the internals too much from the UK sgs phone.
All they did was swap the camera for a cheaper cam. The UK versions cam is easily swapable with the vibrant one giving you a ffc.
The only thing I'm confused on is that both the article and the install video both talk about specific ROM being needed that provide the functionality for the ffc to be used.
I'm currently using axura and am curious as to what I need to flash in order for this to work
Sent from my futuristic phone

There's a pretty busy thread over in the dev section that has all the information. The main issue you should pay attention to is the banding effect it causes on the rear camera, some people are working on it but its slow going.

No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines) but in normal light it is not an issue. Use tango works great you need roughly 1.7mb 3g connection for it to work ok or be on wifi.
I have a thread on how to disassemble. it is easy to install, look up the Siirial thread as well it has alot there
I use the camera (comes from the I9000) in my vibrant and make video calls to my wife it works as good as good as the Iphone..... so those Iphone fags con just go cry
You can pm me if you run into any issues

I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
Fear the beard...

oka1 said:
No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines)
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The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.

I'm having an issue searching this thread about banding on my phone could someone post a link to the thread please.
Sent from my futuristic phone

jayprime said:
I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
Fear the beard...
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Its pretty much updated nothing new has happened.

ytj87 said:
The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.
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Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
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Outdoors:
Low light (without night mode):
Low light (with night mode):
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI

dcontrol said:
I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI
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Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
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ironlood said:
Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
Sent from my futuristic phone
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No
Yes
Check my post ^^^
Yes
No, they weren't that funny as kids and even less funny as adults.
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Your main issue is going to be getting the camera, someone in the dev forum has one if you want it quick, other wise you'll be waiting 4weeks. It aint a bad investment even if you decide not to do the mod, cause you can sell it with your phone.
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Hey, can you confirm your ROM, camera.apk version, kernel, etc.
orells said:
Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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orells i mean no disrespect what so every but the girl in the pic is hot!!

yeah I've had the ffc on my phone for about a month. most roms are ok with it. you just need to flash the ffc mod found in the dev's thread. i'm on bionixv 1.2 or whatever the newest one is. installation wasn't hard either, just be careful about the chrome or you might bend it out of shape

Nexus S can have 720p recording

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In this version ( Vodafone AUS ) we can see it have S-LCD screen , and i think the new OTA FW have 720p update ( i hope so )

Man I hope so!!!
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?

willentrekin said:
I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.

thommcg said:
Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Assuming that ad copy is accurate.
And also assuming that this Euro version is the same hardware as the US version (which it clearly isn't since it's SLCD and not SAMOLED - who knows what other internal changes it might have).
We've been led to believe in the past that the lack of 720p video recording was a hardware bandwidth limitation...no software will change that if it's true. We could do 720p if/when some gets around to hacking in a method, but it will be at reduced framerates. I suspect a lower resolution at higher framerates will usually be a more pleasant viewing experience.

The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.

That would be the most bull**** thing Samsung haf done yet.
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The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
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Sent from my Onyx CM7 Google Nexus S!

Is it possible to upscale to 720i instead? Similar to tv's?
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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, keep in mind that the original launch page for the Nexus S (http://www.google.com/nexus) said it would be able to take "HD videos" on the Features page while stating only 720x480 on the Specs page. As we all know, 720x480 is "Enhanced Definition" at best, not HD.
So this could be a similar situation. Or, it might have a different camera module that has the on-board video processing chip.
Personally, I think the 720x480 video the original NS takes are actually pretty decent, and I'd much prefer the battery life improvements of an AMOLED screen over SuperLCD.

I also think the video is quite good already, but higher res wouldn't hurt. But the still camera needs some work, my NS is not nearly as good a my old vibrant.
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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demo23019 said:
this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170

When does the SLCD version hit shelves? If its a codec issue, why doesn't Google come out and say that

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these make sense, i never thought of it that way, i always knew that the GS phones had more codecs than the NS because of touchwiz and such but i never related those codecs and HD recording :O

The problem is, if its a codec issue then how do you get it onto the sns if its a matter of Google not paying for it? I don't see how anyone can fix that. How do you even get codecs on this phone? Sounds like there's no legal way to do it right?
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miss read ..removed

Are you still convinced that it's an hardware problem?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Read under encoding, and you realize by yourselves that H.264 encoding it's not supported on android 2.3.3 and before. First version of android with H.264 encoding is Honeycomb (3.0).
So it's definitely a codec thing.

Considering one of the lead Android devs said on his twitter that 720p recording is not available on the Nexus S due to hardware bandwidth limitation, I tend to believe him. I am not sure why we have ANOTHER 720p thread either. There is already a longggg one open that talks about all of this. The ad is incorrect. The SLCD version is the SAME as the AMOLED version, minus the screen.

I think it takes great pics and decent video but you kind of expect HD coming from a phone like this... NFC could have waited for the next google phone IMO.

Doesn't 2.3.3 support WebM, which is a hidef codec?