I'm installing a ffc ft my vibrant - Vibrant General

I just found a article that talks about installing a ffc in the Samsung vibrant. Apparently t-mo didn't change the internals too much from the UK sgs phone.
All they did was swap the camera for a cheaper cam. The UK versions cam is easily swapable with the vibrant one giving you a ffc.
The only thing I'm confused on is that both the article and the install video both talk about specific ROM being needed that provide the functionality for the ffc to be used.
I'm currently using axura and am curious as to what I need to flash in order for this to work
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There's a pretty busy thread over in the dev section that has all the information. The main issue you should pay attention to is the banding effect it causes on the rear camera, some people are working on it but its slow going.

No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines) but in normal light it is not an issue. Use tango works great you need roughly 1.7mb 3g connection for it to work ok or be on wifi.
I have a thread on how to disassemble. it is easy to install, look up the Siirial thread as well it has alot there
I use the camera (comes from the I9000) in my vibrant and make video calls to my wife it works as good as good as the Iphone..... so those Iphone fags con just go cry
You can pm me if you run into any issues

I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
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oka1 said:
No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines)
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The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.

I'm having an issue searching this thread about banding on my phone could someone post a link to the thread please.
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jayprime said:
I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
Fear the beard...
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Its pretty much updated nothing new has happened.

ytj87 said:
The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.
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Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
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Outdoors:
Low light (without night mode):
Low light (with night mode):
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI

dcontrol said:
I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI
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Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
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ironlood said:
Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
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No
Yes
Check my post ^^^
Yes
No, they weren't that funny as kids and even less funny as adults.
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Your main issue is going to be getting the camera, someone in the dev forum has one if you want it quick, other wise you'll be waiting 4weeks. It aint a bad investment even if you decide not to do the mod, cause you can sell it with your phone.
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Hey, can you confirm your ROM, camera.apk version, kernel, etc.
orells said:
Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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orells i mean no disrespect what so every but the girl in the pic is hot!!

yeah I've had the ffc on my phone for about a month. most roms are ok with it. you just need to flash the ffc mod found in the dev's thread. i'm on bionixv 1.2 or whatever the newest one is. installation wasn't hard either, just be careful about the chrome or you might bend it out of shape

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Disapointed with DROID X camera (photos inside)

The photos that come from this phone litterally sucks.. all my photos come out grainy and pixely. That is with flash on and off. Taking self pics come out even worse. Gets dark and stuff. Would not reccomend this phone for its camera.
sasha101 said:
The photos that come from this phone litterally sucks.. all my photos come out grainy and pixely. That is with flash on and off. Taking self pics come out even worse. Gets dark and stuff. Would not reccomend this phone for its camera.
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You have to be a bit more objective than that.
I have come from an Incredible, EVO, TP2 and have seen the iphone4 pictures.
I think so far the X has better low light performance than everything aside form the iphone. You also want to make sure you have the phone set to 8MP as default it is at 6MP.
Try messing around with the ISO sensitivity, maybe on auto it is selecting too high of an ISO generating a lot of noise.
The device also does a much better job in macro shots as well than any of the other phones. We are not at point and shoot replacement category yet with any of the phones, namely because all the sensors are nothing more than small 10$ units. But they are light years better than a year ago.
I had the nexus one and the pictures that came from those were CRYSTAL clear! I loved them. Now these are all blurry and grainy. Im going to upload examples soon. As you can see none of them come out clear and all have a little grain in them
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My photos look good. Try using it for a day before freaking out. Might be user error.
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What error could it be? Everything is in auto..?
Try getting out of the house once in a while. All your pics are indoor, low low light. This is a phone, if you want an all purpose genera, buy a camera
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dB Zac said:
Try getting out of the house once in a while. All your pics are indoor, low low light. This is a phone, if you want an all purpose genera, buy a camera
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lmao. I dont stay inside all day.. and I had the nexus one before this and the indoor pictures were great
You should post Nexus One photos for comparison
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lmao. I dont stay inside all day.. and I had the nexus one before this and the indoor pictures were great
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then take the droid x back and get a nexus1 ,, i dont know anyone who buys a phone for the camera lol ITS A PHONE most people buy a phone to talk on it
be happy it works at all. my camera seems busted. all it does is display a black screen when opening any app controlling it. gotta take it back to get it looked at, which means a long line.
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then take the droid x back and get a nexus1 ,, i dont know anyone who buys a phone for the camera lol ITS A PHONE most people buy a phone to talk on it
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i think it's safe to say anyone who comments on this forum hasn't bought a phone specifically for the purpose of "talking on it" in quite some time.
the real question is when can they create an app that has my phone making me breakfast?
I kind of understand what the OP is saying, but he should post pics side by side of the Nexus and X.
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be happy it works at all. my camera seems busted. all it does is display a black screen when opening any app controlling it. gotta take it back to get it looked at, which means a long line.
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My DroidX has the exact same problem - black screen on all camera / video apps. I tried factory reset and all, but no use. I took it back to BestBuy and they said they'd replace it once they got their next shipment in (whenever that will be).
Here is a night shot I took with my X
I agree, the camera on this phone isn't all that great, I too get better shots with my N1.
I was aware of this before I bought the phone, seeing all the pictures & videos that've been posted over the past few days, but I decided to go for the phone anyway.
If a camera is a major requirement on your phone I'd get one of the Galaxy S phones, camera is amazing on that.
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If a camera is a major requirement on your phone I'd get one of the Galaxy S phones, camera is amazing on that.
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Glad to hear that
Nodren said:
i think it's safe to say anyone who comments on this forum hasn't bought a phone specifically for the purpose of "talking on it" in quite some time.
the real question is when can they create an app that has my phone making me breakfast?
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welll i sure didnt buy it for the camera lolo
raing said:
My DroidX has the exact same problem - black screen on all camera / video apps. I tried factory reset and all, but no use. I took it back to BestBuy and they said they'd replace it once they got their next shipment in (whenever that will be).
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somehow i woke up this morning and gave it another shot(so to speak) and it worked. i did nothing to change it, just went to sleep. hope yours starts working too...
i bought it partially for the camera. i didn't buy it because it was the best camera on a phone but it is up there. for in door pictures of yourself, you aren't going to be able to tell if its auto focusing correctly. that is one of the issues with the phone is in door auto focusing. you might want to use a mirror to make sure it does it correctly. the camera button is used to focus then capture. you should see the in door quality on the evo, it is the worst lol. and of course the droid x rapes the nexus one on just about everything so finding one thing the nexus one is better at is no surprise.
the galaxy s phones are a good option but they don't have a flash, so who knows how well it will do depending on how dark it is.
6mp vs 8mp
Nevermind.

Consistent blurry pictures with flash *big picture warning*

I can actually say I haven't been able to take 1 clear picture with flash. Is there something wrong with my phone? I have a fairly steady hand, I used to be a DSLR photographer and never had any problems. What gives to this? here are some examples, not even a moving object. These pictures are taken stabilized on my knee
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R.I.P., Left Shift key.
As a rule, indoor pictures with the Evo are just poor quality. Outside, they're crystal clear, but even with the flash, when you're inside the camera is adjusting the exposure to the ambient light, which means grainy, blurry pics. There are some tweaks you can do to minimize this (white balance, exposure defaults, etc.) but in general it's just not that great.
Same with video: If you're inside, the camcorder drops down to, like, 8-10fps capture. Outside it does much better. It's all about the ambient lighting.
the lighting looks bad, and plus you gotta click in the pic to focus it and then hold down the shutter button untill you see your pic, thats the only way i can take pics
Look closely and see if your lens cover is cracked.
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awakener777 said:
Look closely and see if your lens cover is cracked.
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Why would that matter?
Check out this article, it is a good demonstration of how the lens (or in this case, lens cover) really has a very minimal effect - if any - on image quality.
The only fix is to buy the superior phone...
inb4cantmakecalls
Classick206 said:
The only fix is to buy the superior phone...
inb4cantmakecalls
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You're being sarcastic, right? Surely a troll would get 41 posts without being found out.
Are you using the netarchy kernel? I have had similar issues with photos using flash with fresh and the netarchy kernel. Switching back to stock fixed it for me.
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You're being sarcastic, right? Surely a troll would get 41 posts without being found out.
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So I'm a troll because I can identify a better phone when I see one?
If you were a good troll, you would be doing this on the iPhone site about an EVO. You might just make a few iP4 users' heads explode.
wow ip4 a better phone really go back to your hole in the wall oh wait no ur still stuck behind the walled garden
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So I'm a troll because I can identify a better phone when I see one?
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A better phone? No. Takes better pics and video, yes. Taking better pics / video doesn't make you a better phone. Making calls with reception makes a better pho... oh wait
SilverZero said:
Why would that matter?
Check out this article, it is a good demonstration of how the lens (or in this case, lens cover) really has a very minimal effect - if any - on image quality.
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Because mine is cracked and it true focusing on the crack, rather than the subject.
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i cant beleive, or i missed, no one pointing this out.
you are friggin shaking in the picture dude.
no picture will look good when there is movement.
but i side with you, my camera compared to my wifes camera is garbage.
my wifes takes consistantly better video and stills than mine does.
mine will show the camera focusing and all it does is focus near then far, then stops, it never stops on the right focus point, you can see where it focuses right on past it.
if there was a hack to allow a slider for focus that would be kick ass.
after some time and practice it would be easy to use the slider for focus.
but my shots such ass, big time.
if i Zoom in it will focus much better than if it isnt.
so i am not sure where the focus point is compared to where you place your finger but it isnt where you place your finger thats for sure.
It sounds like a problem my phone seemed to have in the beginning; it would focus and then stop auto focus a little blurry. I don't know what fixed it, but after I had the phone a few weeks, the issue seemed to go away. Now I can take pretty clear and amazingly focused photos.
As for the iPhone troll, I ignored him as I was on a website viewing some flash content on my phone just after I got done with a video conference on 3G . I then made a phone call and held the phone with both hands without dropping the call.
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So I'm a troll because I can identify a better phone when I see one?
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Just wondering why you would post on the Evo forum only to say that the iPhone is better, especially when it's really subjective to say that. You must admit, that is rather troll-ish.
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The only fix is to buy the superior phone...
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You do know that the camera tech is almost identical? Only thing that is changing the "quality" of the pictures/video is software + compression.
Another typical oblivious iPhone user...

Pinkish-red tint on center of camera? (Please try yourself)

Replacement Epic... second screen protector used... and now this?
Please tell me it isn't a bad camera.
This is a white keyboard, yet the center area of the image appears very pink.
This is easiest to see in low light on something white.
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Epic Experience, MixUp
EDIT it looks just like this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/a_hardware_fault_causes_htc_hd2_*pink*_camera_issues_confirmed-news-1276.php
which was(/is?) a software issue on the HD2. So is it my ROM/kernel?
...and here http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...-one-camera-issue-cloudy-red-blur-middle.html
Here's the Nexus in an OFFICIAL VIDEO and you can see it from about :10 to :18.
All phones? Are you serious? http://pocketnow.com/thought/clarification-the-pink-spot-syndrome
I've actually found a lot of topics on this, some say it is a software issue, and some say it is hardware... I just wonder if everyone has it, or if I've only started my adventure of returning phones until I get one that actually WORKS. If they are all like this, I'd be disappointed, but not nearly as disappointed as if I have to "roll the dice" again and wait another 3 days and buy another Zagg screen protector.
Changing the white balance to anything but Auto seems to fix this.
Nope. My camera seems to work fine. Took multiple pictures of a white envelope and no color variation at all. Might be your camera or even the lighting conditions of that particular shot that threw it off.
What kind of lighting? It only seems to appear in dim/indoor setting.
Here are three more... all are on Auto white balance, even though the colors seem to change a lot with the light:
Some sunlight (door open, keyboard on floor) - No pink
Indoors + Flash (same place, door shut) - No pink
Indoors (same conditions, no flash) - PINK!
It isn't incapable of showing a pure white, the conditions just have to be ideal.
i like das keyboard.
rockin no letters huh?
austin420 said:
i like das keyboard.
rockin no letters huh?
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I feel like his keyboard is naked and needs to be covered up lol
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austin420 said:
i like das keyboard.
rockin no letters huh?
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It's actually the Happy Hacking Pro 2.
The Nexus among many other phone had the 'pink dot' effect.
I noticed this was most common if you have Auto-White on, and quickly open the camera and snap a picture.
The red dot would come up at first when the camera was opened, but once the camera focuses, the pink dot disappears.
Its mainly has to do with the focusing of the lenses I think....
from a epic Galaxy far, far away.
...so does anyone else see this on the Epic? The one site seems to think it's a phenomenon in all cheap digital cameras.
Samsung Galaxy S2 Red Spot Camera
Hi guys,
Any solution yet? I changed my SGS2 and the problem is still there.
Try to change the white balance if on auto go indoor and use outdoor lighting to get more light.
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Samsung Galaxy S2 Pink Spot Camera
dito33 said:
Try to change the white balance if on auto go indoor and use outdoor lighting to get more light.
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Thanks dito33. Changing the white balance makes photo color looks not so natural (in my point of view). I know lighting will help, but not in indoor low-light environment. I just want my SGS2 to be my first perfect android phone. BTW, i am a bit disappointed with the Pink Spot issue on SGS2 which cost me over 500 pound, not 50 pound.
Still thinking whether looking into exchange my phone to other brand/model or just keep it.
I went looking through all my photos, and can't find that pink tint in any of them. The one thing on this camera that I find annoying is when shooting video, everything will get a green-ish hue to it for a minute, and then for no reason go back to normal.
Green:
Normal
Ah! This is software related.
We need to tell Samsung John about this.
Remember the HTC Leo pink spots in it's pictures? A software update fixed it.
Whosdaman said:
Ah! This is software related.
We need to tell Samsung John about this.
Remember the HTC Leo pink spots in it's pictures? A software update fixed it.
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This has been an issue since I got the phone
Also, before I make a video, I let the camera go for 20 seconds, then it'll say "recording failed", let it go for another minute or so to see if it fails again. If it doesn't, I'll then go ahead and make a video. This happens on queue every time.
A friend of mine has this exact issue on his fascinate since day one.
he's rooted, but has not tried custom roms yet.
Whosdaman said:
Ah! This is software related.
We need to tell Samsung John about this.
Remember the HTC Leo pink spots in it's pictures? A software update fixed it.
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LOL, Samsung John? [email protected]? Bet he likes your emails

The Atrix Camera is pretty awesome

Took this at the fort worth stockyards
http://bandbinnovations.com/Ft Worth Stockyards.3gp
I was honestly surprised as well. I took some video at a concert (extremely loud) and it did a good job of maintaining sound quality and the video quality was pretty great as well. The biggest problem was me being able to hold the damn thing steady... but that was a situation/personal issue, not the phone/camera itself lol.
To begin with I was dissappointed with the camera bit recently have take. Some really great pics. Better than the inspire. And im Starting to like the screen colors too. There is also quite a lot you can do post pic taking in the viewer app.
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The server you used isn't fast enough to stream the video, so no way am I going to sit around and download that 1.2GB file Camera is pretty darn good though. Can't wait until they update it for 1080p
Oh, and it's not my internet either
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The camera IS pretty good. A lot of people seem to think it sucks...but from all I've seen by using it, its actually kinda nice.
Yea but quicktime is what sucks because it trys to cache the whole 1.2gb before playing
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The server you used isn't fast enough to stream the video, so no way am I going to sit around and download that 1.2GB file Camera is pretty darn good though. Can't wait until they update it for 1080p
Oh, and it's not my internet either
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You did that with the phone? I mean, the Atrix?
I like.
Gotta watch the whole thing but do you have those guys riding and bucking on this clip later?
Thanks for the share!
Slow download speed ill let it run though to see im curious now lol
I think it is awesomely bad. I was playing around with my Dad's Atrix and all of the pics seem a little blurry. I thought there might be a lens cover from the factory and looking at it, it certainly doesn't seem as clear as it should be. I tried picking at it but it wasn't going anywhere. Anyone discover a lens cover on their phones?
Downloaded the video... looks great! I'm impressed. Haven't taken video with mine yet, but yours looks great even though (I'm sure) the lighting couldn't have been that good in that arena. Very nice!
Some one should start a "Pictures taken using my Atrix" thread :x that way I can compare to what I have
Minjin said:
I think it is awesomely bad. I was playing around with my Dad's Atrix and all of the pics seem a little blurry. I thought there might be a lens cover from the factory and looking at it, it certainly doesn't seem as clear as it should be. I tried picking at it but it wasn't going anywhere. Anyone discover a lens cover on their phones?
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There might be an issue with the adhesive use for the lens cover. Bring it in to AT&T and see about getting a replacement. My pics look clear.
Make sure you wipe down the lens. It picks up dirt and fingerprints so easily.
No really. Every time I want to take a pic, I take a look at the lens window and it's dirty.
Minjin - there is no cover on the phone out of the box.
@op - holy crap man, have you heard of compression?
phobos512 said:
Minjin - there is no cover on the phone out of the box.
@op - holy crap man, have you heard of compression?
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Compression would kinda ruin the point of his post, no?
Yup and ut was pretty poor lighting no upper lighting all spot lights
UnCommonGrafx said:
You did that with the phone? I mean, the Atrix?
I like.
Gotta watch the whole thing but do you have those guys riding and bucking on this clip later?
Thanks for the share!
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Yep the microphone of the camera is pretty awesome. Recorded this in at an extremly load concert.
Never seen such a great audio quality on a mobile phone. God bless i have no galaxy s2
Atrix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A9J9ZIXMV2A#t=88s
Galaxy S2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGYQoJJ6d-Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=60s
After Hurricane Irene skimmed past South Florida earlier this year, this little booger seems to have gotten the worst of the South Florida damage. He was about as big as the palm of you hand.

Atrix rom support

Hey im not to familiar with the atrix but im wondering why there arnt many roms like cyanogen and some nice Sense roms etc because its a nice phone but is there even a point in rooting it also whats up with the camera especially the front facing camera its horrible
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Hey im not to familiar with the atrix but im wondering why there arnt many roms like cyanogen and some nice Sense roms etc because its a nice phone but is there even a point in rooting it also whats up with the camera especially the front facing camera its horrible
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There is an alpha quality Cyanogenmod rom, look a few posts below this one. Need a 3rd party camera app but otherwise it works great.
My guess as to why so far the only Motoblur based roms (aside from CM7) is because many potential devs are waiting for CM7 to become a bit more stable/complete, and then use that as a base. Give it time, they will show up eventually.
The cameras are fine. Its a phone, what did you expect? Its not like great camera quality was an advertised feature. And with regards to the front facing one, of course its terrible quality, all front facing cameras are because they need to be as compact as possible.
The bootloader was only unlocked a few weeks ago. The source was released in less time. Getting the atrix down to barebones aosp/cyan7 will take a while, but as mentioned it's in alpha/beta stage right now. Patience is your friend. I'm guessing within a month or so, we'll at least have RC's available.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Yeah front camera sux. LikePukemon said there is some work done on cm7 but they need more time to make it stable. I would say there is already many hacks done to atrix but dont expect any sense rom as its almost imposible to port htc stuff. Atrix is still fresh and new so give it another few moths for serious deals.
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jamal717 said:
Hey im not to familiar with the atrix but im wondering why there arnt many roms like cyanogen and some nice Sense roms etc because its a nice phone but is there even a point in rooting it also whats up with the camera especially the front facing camera its horrible
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First of all, why would we make sense roms.
Second of all, there is a cm7.
Third of all, rooting your phone is always a good idea.
Fourth of all, the ffc is the same megapixels as all the other ffc is it not? Also, the main camera is great when you use d3 camera.
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jamal717 said:
Hey im not to familiar with the atrix but im wondering why there arnt many roms like cyanogen and some nice Sense roms etc because its a nice phone but is there even a point in rooting it also whats up with the camera especially the front facing camera its horrible
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is that what the front facing camera does to your image on viewers end?
jamal717 said:
Hey im not to familiar with the atrix but im wondering why there arnt many roms like cyanogen and some nice Sense roms etc because its a nice phone but is there even a point in rooting it also whats up with the camera especially the front facing camera its horrible
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If you really need HTC Sense, grab "helauncher" for now and install the HTC theme.
Yes that launcher is a little buggy, but its still good for people who need HTC Sense like yesterday...
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@Magnetox: most of the newer ffc's on phones are 1.3mpx, but the ATRIX unfortunately has an earlier ffc model of only 0.3mpx, check Moto's site. Jus' sayin'
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Sorry I meant most phone review sites like gsmarena.com and etc.
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Point taken. Although 0.3 mp captures 640x480 does it not?
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Video calling is overrated. I'm sure its used more for cyber sex than anything. And not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I'm sure the gov't can tap into it if you do something critical enough to pop on their radar.
Thanks for the info guys ill be patient
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is that what the front facing camera does to your image on viewers end?
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well no but your moms face is like that right before i you know

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