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Display has yellowish tint to it. Help!!

So my excitement kinda came to an early end last night. I got my second replacement mt4g due to a bad screen. This one is perfect...except that when I was reading some text on a page with a white background, I noticed that from bottom to top, the white gradually goes from white to this yellowish tint. I will post a picture of it later on tonight.
My question is, do you have/had this problem and did you end up returning it or did it go away kind of like when this was happening to the iphone 4? I really hope this really doesn't become a full-blown issue like with the washed colors, because then I would have to request a 3rd replacement and make sure that it doesn't have dead pixels, dust under the screen, washed out colors, yellow tint, crooked ffc, creaky buttons, and gaps around the bezel. Thanks.
Here is an example of what i'm talking about except my display is white at the bottom and gradually goes to the color of the phone that is on the right, at the top.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856792

Here you go guys:
img831.imageshack.us/img831/159/img1091z.jpg
(sorry for the link, I haven't posted 8+ times yet)

My bosses phone has looked like that since day 1
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ESKIMOn00b said:
My bosses phone has looked like that since day 1
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Do you think that the problem is improper screen calibration and all I have to do is wait for a software update?

225 views and one reply?? Really guys?? Not trying to sound like I'm whining, but this is a serious problem and I think i'm not the only one. I just received my replacement, and it too has this yellowish tint towards the top of the screen. This will be my 4th time that I will be requesting a replacement, so in total so far, 4 defective phones.

ur phone has a bad screen. when black looks more light greyish and when white doesn't quite look white, bad screen.
return it, these are things u wanna check within the first few days!
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I'm sorry, but it's really difficult to tell based on the picture you linked. Is there any way you can take a comparison photo with a good screen?

I can't see anything wrong from that photo. It will take something more than this to let others know if you have a problem.

smirkis said:
ur phone has a bad screen. when black looks more light greyish and when white doesn't quite look white, bad screen.
return it, these are things u wanna check within the first few days!
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The blacks never looked grayish, the colors were bright, crisp and vibrant, it was when looking at something with a white background. This issue has nothing to do with the washed screens that people are getting.
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I can't see anything wrong from that photo. It will take something more than this to let others know if you have a problem.
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I figured it out based on a chat I had with a friend. I think that the backlight was improperly calibrated or something. Sorry that I can't take a better picture as I have already received my exchange which is much much better, the light is just more distributed evenly then the previous phone. Plus it doesn't creak, the ffc is dead centered, and light doesn't leak through between the bezel and the screen at the top of the phone. After 4 exchanges(5 phones total), I finally got a "perfect" device.
Here is a side-by-side shot sort of(I returned the defective device before I could think of take a pic of them together due to my excitement!)
You can easily tell that the screen of the phone on the right has way more light at the bottom of it and the top doesn't which results in a more obvious yellowish tint. The phone on the left (good one) doesn't have it as bad, the light is distributed evenly. Both were on auto brightness. The good display's(right) brightness is down a bit more but it doesn't matter since I tried to increase and decrease the brightness on the defective one(left) and it made no difference.
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I'm installing a ffc ft my vibrant

I just found a article that talks about installing a ffc in the Samsung vibrant. Apparently t-mo didn't change the internals too much from the UK sgs phone.
All they did was swap the camera for a cheaper cam. The UK versions cam is easily swapable with the vibrant one giving you a ffc.
The only thing I'm confused on is that both the article and the install video both talk about specific ROM being needed that provide the functionality for the ffc to be used.
I'm currently using axura and am curious as to what I need to flash in order for this to work
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There's a pretty busy thread over in the dev section that has all the information. The main issue you should pay attention to is the banding effect it causes on the rear camera, some people are working on it but its slow going.

No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines) but in normal light it is not an issue. Use tango works great you need roughly 1.7mb 3g connection for it to work ok or be on wifi.
I have a thread on how to disassemble. it is easy to install, look up the Siirial thread as well it has alot there
I use the camera (comes from the I9000) in my vibrant and make video calls to my wife it works as good as good as the Iphone..... so those Iphone fags con just go cry
You can pm me if you run into any issues

I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
Fear the beard...

oka1 said:
No Axura works great for ffc. The ffc will get some banding in low light conditions (red-lines)
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The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.

I'm having an issue searching this thread about banding on my phone could someone post a link to the thread please.
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jayprime said:
I really want to mod my vib with a ffc. Ive seen videos and read threads on how to do this but still a little confused with the banding issue. I wish that gigantic thread over in the dev section would update the op with all the up to date informatuon of whats going on and whats working.
Fear the beard...
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Its pretty much updated nothing new has happened.

ytj87 said:
The bigger problem is the rear cam's banding. Even in full daylight there is uncomfortable banding. In anything less than full daylight, the banding is nasty. I reverted back since, like most I assume, I want decent photos.
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Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
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Outdoors:
Low light (without night mode):
Low light (with night mode):
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI

dcontrol said:
I realize how hard it is to describe the problems, and its a lot easier to show.
This isn't my video, just found it on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52NVSTWmWI
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Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
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Okay so thats a video showing how bad the banding is. Are the redlines detrimental to the phones health ? Is it only in low light situations? What about some pics and not videos of the banding? Does it effect just the back camera? Will keenan and kel reunite the cast of all that ?
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No
Yes
Check my post ^^^
Yes
No, they weren't that funny as kids and even less funny as adults.
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Your main issue is going to be getting the camera, someone in the dev forum has one if you want it quick, other wise you'll be waiting 4weeks. It aint a bad investment even if you decide not to do the mod, cause you can sell it with your phone.
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Hey, can you confirm your ROM, camera.apk version, kernel, etc.
orells said:
Ummm no, here are some indoor shots with the mod
The banding has been improved on the newer roms. You almost have to try to make it unbearable, not saying its perfect, but it aint that bad.
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orells i mean no disrespect what so every but the girl in the pic is hot!!

yeah I've had the ffc on my phone for about a month. most roms are ok with it. you just need to flash the ffc mod found in the dev's thread. i'm on bionixv 1.2 or whatever the newest one is. installation wasn't hard either, just be careful about the chrome or you might bend it out of shape

Show off your DVP Photos

We have a phone that now works
So its time to show off those photos with our sexy omnivision sensor
and yes the photos look better than something taken on a fisher's price camera
Without further ado...
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What about your pics? Do you use the DVP to take pics?

Chicago, Eh? I will be over in that city soon...
My pictures aren't as good as domineus's, I have a shaky hand when holding the dvp camera (usually take pictures with a DSLR)
EDIT: I forgot, I took these pictures while traveling in England.

Soon (tm)
Haven't updated to mango yet, waiting on that at&t firmware so i dont have to spend a night reverting/re-updating. Can't wait to take non-****ty pics.

That's some nice shots for a smartphone.

notebookgrail said:
That's some nice shots for a smartphone.
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omnivision lense is actually good on the dvp now
the new options actually mean something to me now!

domineus said:
omnivision lense is actually good on the dvp now
the new options actually mean something to me now!
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What settings are you using, are they making a difference?

efjay said:
What settings are you using, are they making a difference?
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depends on conditions
lower lighting I use iso of 4 or 8 depends though
surprisingly indoors, I just use tungsten or fluorescent
thats one huge reason why i liked in previous os versions you couldn't save settings. Ideally, because the shot changes, I would want a new set of settings (as long as it was default to 5 mp I'm a happy camper, samsung focus users on the other hand begged for the camera saving settings)

The camera is surprisingly more usable now, and really shines in outdoor photos. I'll try your iso settings when I'm inside.
One thing I hate, with all of my heart, is the white striping over the flash. It's printed on the plastic that is attached to the battery cover. It ruins pictures that use the flash, especially when the subject is medium-close. You just see these really ugly yellow-white bars over the image. It's a real dealbreaker so I try not to use the flash at all.
I've been planning my attack to remove it without removing the entire plastic piece. The stripes feel slightly raised, but i'm sure it can be sanded down and cleaned with a light solvent. Anyone got any ideas?

What's the use of the white stripe? Does it disperse the flash evenly to prevent harsh tones?

Not sure of its intended purpose. Plenty of other phones just have the LED under a clear plastic cover and they take pictures just fine. It's almost as if it was put there to intentionally ruin shots with the flash!

its supposed to act as a light "defuser" (sp), but it sucks.
Arc, if you manage to remove it, post a how to please.

venelar said:
its supposed to act as a light "defuser" (sp), but it sucks.
Arc, if you manage to remove it, post a how to please.
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it is a light defuser but it sucks I do admit
more pics - dvp does have a good camera

on my way to the gym today i took a bunch of pix with the dvp... about 70% were crap. green, blurry, to dark... this was all outside in blasting 90+ sun i also took a few shots in the very brightly lit gym.. but it was a blur-fest.
here are some non-crap ones.
(i'm running mango beta 2 and 212)

I think the best feature relevant to the DVP camera is "tap to snap" -- being able to tap on the screen to take the photo instead of pressing that infernal camera button has led to less blurry shots for me.

hrmm.. never tried the tab-to-hopefully-not-blur
i'll try that tomorrow.
oh sea-ray! hurry the hell up!

tai4de2 said:
I think the best feature relevant to the DVP camera is "tap to snap" -- being able to tap on the screen to take the photo instead of pressing that infernal camera button has led to less blurry shots for me.
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Is "tap to snap" a Mango feature?

tap to snap pix, for me, are as good (bad) as using the button... oh well

then its probably how the camera is being held
steady hand on any camera, not just the dvp
also while the dvp takes good shots, you also should try some sort of editing too if needed. Autofix is a powerful thing
In darker lighting increase iso gain and play with the settings till you get a proper image. Also the nokia camera lense from the n8 is unbelievable

I wish Dell would add an anti-shaking setting to the camera like the Samsung Focus. When this setting defaulted to on in the Focus NoDO release, picture quality went way up. This, plus some better color correction, would make the DVP camera acceptable.
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mskovrinskie said:
I wish Dell would add an anti-shaking setting to the camera like the Samsung Focus. When this setting defaulted to on in the Focus NoDO release, picture quality went way up. This, plus some better color correction, would make the DVP camera acceptable.
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its h/w
dell can't add it

Nobody seems bothered by the display's sharpening artifacts? Amazing!

This is very obvious the first few hours using the phone. Horrible sharpening halos around texts most noticeable on gray and non white backgrounds. It kills the black contrast of the text as well making it look gray and not to mention a pain to read. You can spot it easily in browser forums here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2250376 and here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/hardware-clinic-2/
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It looks even worse in than that in actual use.
Am I the only one bothered by this?

I used to feel that aswell on my Acer GD245HQ when i was like 2 cm from it, then i got glasses and standed at a normal distance and they disapear

Supercurio is busy working his magic for the display a few of his tweets:
"with tuned sharpening, perceived sharpness can be nicely improved, sans visible artefacts"
"image processor from GS3 is from a newer generation than any existing devices, adding finer controls over useful parameters"
"settings are clearly over-cooked (not the first time and no preset is reasonable /accurate) it's perfect for Display Expert"
He's also addressing black crush etc...
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LeviathanPT said:
I used to feel that aswell on my Acer GD245HQ when i was like 2 cm from it, then i got glasses and standed at a normal distance and they disapear
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i agree. unless it is norm to put your phone very near your eyes,use a magnifying lens or microscope when using your phone daily.

I just viewed the linked pages on my gs3 and I'm having a very hard time seeing what you're talking about. How does the text look remotely grey? And what halos? Text is sharp and easy to read even when zoomed out a fair bit. As you'd expect since it's a 300+ ppi screen.
Are you talking about the anti-aliasing? You don't want the font to be anti-aliased or something? Even in your magnified photo, I can't see what the problem is?

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I just viewed the linked pages on my gs3 and I'm having a very hard time seeing what you're talking about. How does the text look remotely grey? And what halos? Text is sharp and easy to read even when zoomed out a fair bit. As you'd expect since it's a 300+ ppi screen.
Are you talking about the anti-aliasing? You don't want the font to be anti-aliased or something? Even in your magnified photo, I can't see what the problem is?
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It isn't the anti alisaing. I increased the contrast a little to show the problem more clearly.
Notice the halos around the characters? Still dont know what is wrong? In browser tap menu, brightness and colors, select level 1 power saving. This makes the display color a little bluish but also eliminates the sharpening and makes the text much better looking as it should. Compare it to default and see if you notice a difference.

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i agree. unless it is norm to put your phone very near your eyes,use a magnifying lens or microscope when using your phone daily.
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I dont need a magnifying glass or bring the my device close to see the effect. Its perfectly visible at my normal reading distance.

Yes, I see it. Doesn't bother me at all.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium

After a while you dont even notice it anymore, seems natural, but as said above, supercurio is working on some tools to help out

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It isn't the anti alisaing. I increased the contrast a little to show the problem more clearly.
Notice the halos around the characters? Still dont know what is wrong? In browser tap menu, brightness and colors, select level 1 power saving. This makes the display color a little bluish but also eliminates the sharpening and makes the text much better looking as it should. Compare it to default and see if you notice a difference.
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Ok I see it now. I can't really see that without the magnified and enhanced pic though. I think I can see a slight difference when using level 1 power saving but it's really difficult to know for sure. My eyes must be terrible!
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Maybe this phone needs to be used with Google Glasses?

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Maybe this phone needs to be used with Google Glasses?
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SGS3D ?

Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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bloodrain954 said:
Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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Please keep this thread related to the original topic, if you want to discuss if your screen is white or something else go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601
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LeviathanPT said:
Please keep this thread related to the original topic, if you want to discuss if your screen is white or something else go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658601
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He was making a joke..........

doronster195 said:
He was making a joke..........
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Ah sorry im too sensitive today ..

bloodrain954 said:
Let's complain about everything! Anyone else notice the white isn't really white? It's more of a off white! Wtf Samsung!
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I think this is a legitimate issue. I can see the poor text rendering in all lighting conditions unlike complains about imperfect blacks that can only be seem in pitch dark conditions. Joking aside the poor whites are also an issue.

I am also really annoyed by the over sharpening. I hope displayexpert is released soon and takes care of the issue..

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I am also really annoyed by the over sharpening. I hope displayexpert is released soon and takes care of the issue..
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Me too. Really, really annoying, but let's just wait for supercurio to do his magic.

Just another HOX buyers remorse thread. Move along.

Blotches on an all black screen? Test yours here

Can you guys with cameras that have manual control test something for me?
Following on from a post by someone else about weird blotches on an all black image displayed on the screen, I checked mine today in pitch darkness and noticed a faint 2 inch or so of blackness on one edge of the screen along with smaller blotches. It doesn't appear to be as visible as the other poster's though but I exaggerated in in the photo so it's easier to see and settings posted below for people to check as well.
This is only visible on an all black screen. This does not exist on any of the S2's I've owned. I'll check my dad's S3 tonight when I go see him in the same way but the way to photograph it to keep the results consistent are as follows:
Stick camera and phone in a cupboard and...
Phone screen brightness: 50%
Camera ISO: 200
Camera Shutter: 15 seconds
Camera Aperture: f/4.5
Remember to pre-focus and use the 10sec timer to avoid shake
Those settings will over exaggerate the effect as shown in my photo below but it makes it easier for everyone to see as you do have to focus your eyes in reality and it's not immediately obvious unless you're in pitch darkness and looking at an all black screen.
I don't know how I feel about this though but if it's visible using the above camera settings for lots of people then I'll leave it as is.
Again, it's only visible on an all black screen so make sure your image that you load is all black and not grey or something Make sure screen timeout is set to at least a minute to avoid the screen going off!
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I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
If I have assisted you, please press Thanks button.

What free app? It's a black image with screen timeout extended. The rest is your camera settings to be able to fairly photograph the screen for everyone to compare, an app can't do that

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I used this free app to notice my blotches. It worked great for me. Your method has alot of steps in my opinion.
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Which free app? What exactly did you do in order to notice them?

Did you see these threads Robbie?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700350
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686633

I didn't see those nope! Thanks for the links. Seems strange though as the white S3 belonging to my dad has none of the blotches, neither does a pebble blue on another forum. My 2 S2 handsets had no issues either.
Oh well!

My first phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 20sec)
Second phone: (F/4, ISO 800, 30sec)
The guy at the store (**** Smith in Australia) was unable to reproduce the issue in-store, so swapped the phone out and said I'd have to go to samsung if I reported the same issue again. The 2nd phone still has the issue, but as you can see, nowhere near as bad... still... not very good is it.
My 2 year SGS1 had about 4 spots - never noticed any issue. The first SGS3 was definitely noticeable just scrolling through system menus at night.

That's rather bad^^ I've emailed mobiflefun with picture so let's see what they say.

Suggest you up your exposure (duration and/or ISO) to make it a bit more noticeable. Looks like you've got a fair amount of guff in the top-left corner.
:/ dodgy manufacturing.

I don't have an SGSIII yet, but I noticed pretty much this same thing on my Galaxy Note. One night I was viewing an image with an all black screen and it had these weird blotches on the screen. I had never noticed them before.

Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions

Northern-Loop said:
Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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I have it too. Looks like a crack from the inside out on the bottom left corner.
I can see it in Settings/led notification screen at the bottom at night with screen brightness low.
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mobilehavoc said:
This is AMOLED. My PS Vita has same thing. Nothing you can do about it.
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My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.

I saw around 10 to 15 blotches on my screen,not at all noticable in everyday use only when i looked very closely i saw them scattered around the middle.As its my first amoled phone,i want to know is it harmful for the screen?Shd i ask for replacement?Though i dont have any pink spots or tints watsoever.
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Aridon said:
My galaxy nexus doesn't have this so it's not all of them.
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My 4 GNexus did.

Wow this looks like a widespread issue. Samsung needs to know about this

I assume samsung knew even before shipping the units.

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Actually mine does has it as well but I can't seem to see it under normal conditions
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This "issue" is known since the SGS1. Is the leakege from the AMOLED display. One thing to consider i only have a line about half a CM in the same place where you have the circle mark. Maybe a manufacture failure?

quicker way to test.
1 - dark room
2 set auto brightness off and screen to lowest brightness.
go to phone and dial *#0*#
click vibrate test which will display black screen.
and then check....
p.s been through this in other threads here but mky local telco had 26 with this issue went to another telco and got a blue one today - and no issue whatsoever...