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USA version of Galaxy S looks so much better :(

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But Samsung didn't think this is enough so they threw a gyrscope inside just like the one in iPhone 4
In addition, the Samsung Captivate is designed with a six-axis sensor that combines the smartphone's accelerometer and gyroscope to provide a smooth, fluid gaming experience
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/samsung-captivate-is-atandts-version-of-the-galaxy-s-launching/

I much prefer the i9000

Meh who needs a gyroscope anyways?

Hah would be funny to find that people outside the USA prefer that design and the Americans preferring the international version.

Theme appears less iphoney

Looks like an old Palm device I threw away 5 years ago.
I may end up with it, but based on that picture, I don't think its attractive at all.
If the I90000 looks iPhonish, who cares? It looks better than this.
That won't stop me from buying it. Depending on the issues around locking down apps to just the Market, and what Verizon ends up with from the Galaxy...that will determine which one I end up with.
Unless someone can convince me there is a good reason to stay on AT&T over Verizon, based on the carrier technology, not the complaints about AT&T's lousy coverage. Their coverage is great where I would need it. (At least now it is).

i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...

BuddyLee said:
i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...
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I think I prefer the EU version as well - it might be because I've just gotten used to the looks of it already. To me the US version reminds me of the Touch HD which is a phone I absolutely hated.

It depends on the dimensions and whether it has a flash - neither of which are stated.

Like I said in the other thread, there's no way AT&T would allow another phone closely resemble the iPhone AND have specs to directly compete with it and possibly blow it out of the water. Hence the removal of the front camera, possible gimping, and changing the looks.

It reminds me of this ..

I prefer the 3 button setup with hardware home key in the middle. First, it can be used to unlock, no need to fiddle with your thumb on the side. Second, it helps using the other two keys without looking.
Who really needs a search key anyway? And if you need it, just hold the menu key a little longer, and there you are.

we should have had a poll. like the att version alot. curious if the tmobile one is gonna be redesigned, especially since the sprint one also has four buttons up front.

Not to mention the hardware keyboard

No-one else thinks that it looks exactly like the Looks Xperia X10?...
fork! Annoying that I can't post images/urls. I wanna put the first image next to this one img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/XperiaX10_450x550.jpg

Looks a lot nicer than the standard version to me (and I'm not in the US!). The standard one looks like it's trying too hard to ape the iPhone, and not the new one either.
The AT&T site shows the back, which does not have a flash:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung-captivate.jsp
I'd definitely prefer this one - 16GB Flash (Vodafone exclusive in the UK) and a gyroscope, with better styling. It might not have a front camera, but it doesn't have a chocolate teapot attachment either and I care about the same amount for both of those features. (Well, to be fair, I could eat the chocolate - that would serve more of a purpose.) I've had phones with front-facing cameras for three years and have never made or received a video call over 3G, or had any desire to do so.

this doesn't look hot. i like the 9000 better

looks like a mini dell mini5 streak
pun intended

Biggest question for me, since both of them have slight variance in hardware like no front-camera and gyroscope, will a single rom cooked for 1 version work for both versions?
Because thats huge. It would fragment the Euro and USA rom cookers.

US Version looks way better and it has all 4 capacitive buttons, which would make running custom software a little easier. Booo @ removing the front facing camera.

Droid 2 versus Droid Incredible

Well, the D2 came out today, and I'm still within my 30 days return window... I'm wondering what people think about swapping the Dinc out for the new D2? I like the Incredible because of its screen, but the bump-charge battery and lack of QWERTY slider is a bit suckage. What would you do?

The d2 has a 720 mhz processor...thats a downgrade.
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The d2 has a 720 mhz processor...thats a downgrade.
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That shows it as a TI OMAP 1ghz.

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Well, the D2 came out today, and I'm still within my 30 days return window... I'm wondering what people think about swapping the Dinc out for the new D2? I like the Incredible because of its screen, but the bump-charge battery and lack of QWERTY slider is a bit suckage. What would you do?
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Camera > downgrade
Processor > extremely slight upgrade
Keyboard > Hate the physical keyboard causing the device to be larger
Root / Roms > nobody knows if this will be possible to unlock (like the droid x) and you also have to wait for root now, if it's even possible

It's also worth noting that the Droid 2 has a much better GPU then the Incredible. If flashing ROMs is important to you I'd think long and hard before switching. If not I'd say go for it.

Yeah, it really comes down to what you like more. Also I don't know if you've had experience with Motoblur before, but since the Droid 2 is not an HTC phone, you will be getting Motoblur instead of Sense as the UI. I have a good feeling it will be rooted in time, as I'm sure it's going to be a popular product so lots of devs will be playing with it.
The Droid 2 GPU smokes the DInc, however there really aren't a lot of applications that can take advantage of that right now and I can't tell you if that is going to change in the future or not. Also do you care about having a hardware keyboard vs a soft kb? If you plan on texting, e-mailing, inputting a lot of data then that should seal the deal.
If you are looking for an answer like "Which phone is better?", then I can't give you that since it's mostly based on personal preference. Yes the Droid 2 has come out later so it is more advanced (except for the fact that I haven't heard a lot of positive feedback about Motoblur) and even though the camera might have a fewer MP count, based on the data I've read you will still be able to achieve the same if not better quality pictures than with the DInc (which requires a lot of manual option settings to get an optimal picture in most cases), plus it comes with some cool video features =).
I would skim over the differences between the two and not focus so much on statistics and more of how you would use the phone on a daily basis, then decide based on that which phone allows you to do such things the easiest.

the Dinc is the best and last of the fully NAND unlocked 1 ghz androids (for VZ anyway). It would take a serious hardware upgrade like a 1.5 ghz process with Wi-Di or HDMI output without discrimination against DRM protected material to get me to make a switch. But that's largely because I value having a fully unlocked OS over most anything else. I also had the option to get the Droid X and didn't get it if that tells you anything.

Incredible all the way; Motorola doesn't know how to make quality phones. http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/droid-2-review/

[Q] So, this is basically a Defy?

I was wondering if this is basically a Defy but for AT&T and without all the extra ruggedness. The two phones look a lot alike.
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The main differences:
The bravo has (Compared to Defy):
3.15 MP camera (Instead of 5MP)
109.5 x 63 x 13.3 mm (Instead of 107 x 59 x 13.4 mm)
No active noise cancelation (Instead of crystaltalk)
And some other points like the gorilla glass, IP 67 standard, image stabilization (?) are missing.
Some videos on youtube looked laggy...might be because of the live wallpaper they used (same CPU as the Defy)
i don't know about the price, but the Defy is the way to go if i had to choose.

Played with them both yesterday, and ended up going home with a Bravo. The Defy always seemed laggy, whereas the Bravo only got laggy with certain live wallpapers turned on. Thought they would be exactly the same performance wise, but it didn't end up that way. I'd like gorrila glass and all that ruggedness, but at the end of the day i'd prefer a snappy phone. Now i just gotta wait for the people on here to start doing their thing so i can get rid of all these useless AT&T branded apps.

FYI, I actually managed to get rid of all AT&T branded apps, including AT&T address book using Titanium Backup.

Removing AT&T apps
I'm an employee of at&T and I found a way to remove them the same way with Ti Backup after a root on my Bravo (shhhhh)...pretty simple with one touch after Ti is on your phone. Have to say, after reading all these posts and such I do feel like AT&T could do a better job of lightening the restrictions on the android platform. It's because we have a large handful of "buy this anyway" customers that don't have the full interest of customizing android the way it's supposed to be. I talk to customers on a daily basis about the benefits while they stare at me like I'm Yoda. I'm already submitting service forms in the hopes that AT&T will listen when I say lift the restrictions...that is all. BTW, someone get some ROMs for this thing.

Does getting rid of the AT&T apps improve your phones performance?
Also, I just got this little Bravo and I love it! I already have a Captivate and an Aria and this guy beats them both. Best performance, best battery, great screen, and perfect size for me.

bullet358 said:
I'm an employee of at&T and I found a way to remove them the same way with Ti Backup after a root on my Bravo (shhhhh)...pretty simple with one touch after Ti is on your phone. Have to say, after reading all these posts and such I do feel like AT&T could do a better job of lightening the restrictions on the android platform. It's because we have a large handful of "buy this anyway" customers that don't have the full interest of customizing android the way it's supposed to be. I talk to customers on a daily basis about the benefits while they stare at me like I'm Yoda. I'm already submitting service forms in the hopes that AT&T will listen when I say lift the restrictions...that is all. BTW, someone get some ROMs for this thing.
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I had a Bravo for about a month and I got tired of waiting.
Unfortunately, I found most member on Motorola's own Bravo support forum are very ..."defensive". They tried to make sense out of their choice, rather than, speak up for the truth.
I'd admit I am a die-hard Moto fan, but I am not about stick to something that is not going to happen...... ( I doubt Bravo is getting 2.2, same broken promised of my Cliq XT )
Word of advice.... sell your Bravo, ebay or craigslist, and get yourself a Defy.
I am so glad that I did! It is like upgrading your PC from Vista to W7 with SSD.

They both have gorilla glass.

Yes they both have gorilla glass and they are essentially the same phone, my wife has the bravo, I HAD the Defy, just upgraded to the Atrix. The only fundamental difference is the added water/dust proofing on the Defy. Both the amount of on-board data storage, I believe the Defy has "2Gb" and the Bravo has "2Gb" of storage, as well as processors, are identical - both have 800Mhz processors, they run at almost identical speeds.

Defy has flash for camera and an additional button function on face plate.
Also most posts I have seen seems that Defy is a non US issue phone. There are sbf files and even roms for the Defy so it "maybe" possible to use the Defy roms on the Bravo.
Posting for some info into this possibility on the Defy forum has not revealed tuned out any response.

Motorola Pro+ announced

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/motorola-pro-announced-with-gingerbread-few-other-improvements/
The changes are as follows:
Screen resolution is going from HVGA (320x480) to VGA (480x640)
Battery capacity gets a bump from 1420 mAh to 1600 mAh
Android 2.3 (instead of 2.2)
4GB internal memory (over 2GB in the Pro)
Rounder form factor
Weighs 113g (down from 134g)
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I think that's it. Thoughts? I, for one, certainly welcome the more capacious battery and higher screen resolution (though that's hardly a big deal on such a small screen). I'm a bit bummed that they didn't use this opportunity to make the screen a bit larger, and include directional keys.

Quite disappointed actually - what is this? A facelift?
This could have been a serious opportunity for Motorola to really create a "grim reaper" for the new Blackberry - and they are just giving it away with something that is already out-dated before its even out! No dual-core cpu? No front-facing camera? Only a VGA screen?? I mean come on .. once in a time, Droids were top of the line Android devices with the latest tech and now Moto just seems to retreat and leave that job to Samsung and LG ... Oh and something else, it doesnt look half as attractive and cheeky as the original Pro ... just my 2 cents ..

No front camera + no screen size increase = FAIL.
I mean come on, how hard is it to make that screen a 3.5 inch? Or at least a 3.3?

I just wish I could get it here in the US. I really don't want to go to Verizon just to get this style of phone.

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I just wish I could get it here in the US. I really don't want to go to Verizon just to get this style of phone.
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I've read in several places that it's anticipated to come to the US as well. It evidently has support for both AT&T and T-Mobile: http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/08/30/motorola.pro.plus.unveiled/
Even if it doesn't get an official release in the US, it should be fairly easy to get an unlocked one from overseas.
The phone is definitely a disappointment for me. I love my Pro, and I was looking forward to some sort of significant bump up. Oh well, I guess I'll start looking elsewhere.

Great. I want the better resolution. My BB 9780 had SUCH a glorious screen, the Droid Pro aint bad, but it aint stellar either. Can't wait for this to come out.

Getting my MOTOROLA PRO+ (AKA: MB632, "Elway Plus", apparently...), on Monday, from the UK... Very disappointed to see that there is very little (practically nothing), about said device - and even about its predecessor the DROID PRO - but yet other "not-so-good" (but similar in a way) devices (ie: Samsung Cha-Cha), do even have custom ROMs available at this stage!
This is a very good device (on paper at the moment, I will find out more in 48h when I finally have it) but for those of us that want a "bar" type, qwerty keyboarded, Android smartphone, for mostly emails, texting, calls (obviously) and - most important (at least as far as Im concerned): one of the best battery lives amongst all Android devices! - this is a dream! ...but of course if you are one of them people who use their smartphones more like a tablet (movies, games, music, etc.) than a phone, then this device is not for you...

MOTOROLA PRO+ "Temp Forum"
Im hoping not to be contravening any rules here but since there is barely any info on the MOTOROLA PRO+ at the moment (not much info either on its predecessor MOTOROLA (DROID) PRO), I though all little bits of infor around (I have posted a few things in different places) could be gathered in one place - HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19973225#post19973225 ...at least until when (and if) a dedicated section is created for this device...

Vote for Motorola Pro+ Forum
everyone should go to: Link and vote +1 for a separate Motorola Pro+ Forum

I just got mine ordered and should be here soon. I'm actually excited. I've been using blackberries for 5 years and selling phones for just about the same length of time. I switched to android but after a year I still find typing to still be a pain and a blackberry just can't be fully replaced due to their amazing keyboards. All keyboard android alternatives are horrible. After reading all the reviews this phone sounds exactly like a perfect combination of android meets blackberry.

Ok that settles it, this is the best phone ever created.

Ok so I entered into the Android world with an original Atrix. I was wowed by the "dual core processor". That phone was horrible.
I stayed with Android however and clang to Samsung for a year or so. I recently became fed up with my One X and S3 and was looking for something with better build quality. I found the Atrix HD. It's build quality was superior to the S3 and I much prefer on screen buttons. Obviously the One X had hardware buttons as well, which bugged me, but what really bugged me about the One X is that after 2 weeks, the beauitiful matte finish on the back started to wear off. This made the phone look uneven and cheap on the back with some parts shiny and others matte. I was completely tired of dealing with Android phones with poor build quality.Even the Atrix wasn't perfect, the damn sim door squeaked everytime you touched it, I actually thought about gluing it closed. Thats how much it bugged me. I am still spoiled by my Apple products that I used to own (NEVER AGAIN), but I love Android and would never go back to iOS. You have to admit the iPhone is a solid device hardware wise.
I then stumbled across the RAZR HD in a Verizon store. This was the best quality Android phone I had ever seen. I was sad that I could not buy it, as I have AT&T. It didn't take long for me to figure out that I could get one from Canada (Rogers) and it would work just fine with AT&T. After searching for weeks I FINALLY won a reasonable eBay auction.
My phone arrived today. This makes my Atrix look like a toy. This is the most solid and well built Android device I have ever seen. Certainly right there with the iPhone, if not better. I also was suprised to see that this phone has a much better camera than the Atrix as well. Also the speaker is the loudest and clearest I have come across. My co workers thought I was blasting a laptop earlier it was so loud. Totally blown away with this phone.
In my opinion this phone can not be touched right now. Sure there are phones on the market that have quad cores and twice the RAM, but I bet you those same phones don't have the build quality of this one. And if they even come close, there will be something else lacking, such as the camera or speaker (Optimus G). It just seems that the RAZR HD is good in every single category a phone can be.
I really hope motorola keeps this up and I can't wait to see whats next.

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You see him trollin, you hatin? ^.^

I agree. This is the best phone I've ever used.
Consumer Reports have at the best Verizon phone available.

This is the best phone I've used as well, but my only other smartphone was a Motorola Defy, and while long in the tooth now, an avid development community on this forum has kept it going. It'll be getting 4.2 before my RazrHD gets 4.1, at this rate. Actually, scratch that, CyanogenMod 4.2 on Defy is at about the same stage as 4.1 for RazrHD.
Just waiting for the software to catch up with the hardware. I miss Jelly Bean, but I don't want an early alpha on my phone again, I use it for work.

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Yep I think without a question the Razr Maxx HD is the best Android out. The build quality cannot be touched by samsung and htc sure there are quad core phones out but as someone pointed out they are running heavy touchwiz or sense skins that use up resources. I love it how close to stock android the RAZR is, its not like touchwiz and sense where you have to throw on a launcher just to get a decent experience.