Ok so I entered into the Android world with an original Atrix. I was wowed by the "dual core processor". That phone was horrible.
I stayed with Android however and clang to Samsung for a year or so. I recently became fed up with my One X and S3 and was looking for something with better build quality. I found the Atrix HD. It's build quality was superior to the S3 and I much prefer on screen buttons. Obviously the One X had hardware buttons as well, which bugged me, but what really bugged me about the One X is that after 2 weeks, the beauitiful matte finish on the back started to wear off. This made the phone look uneven and cheap on the back with some parts shiny and others matte. I was completely tired of dealing with Android phones with poor build quality.Even the Atrix wasn't perfect, the damn sim door squeaked everytime you touched it, I actually thought about gluing it closed. Thats how much it bugged me. I am still spoiled by my Apple products that I used to own (NEVER AGAIN), but I love Android and would never go back to iOS. You have to admit the iPhone is a solid device hardware wise.
I then stumbled across the RAZR HD in a Verizon store. This was the best quality Android phone I had ever seen. I was sad that I could not buy it, as I have AT&T. It didn't take long for me to figure out that I could get one from Canada (Rogers) and it would work just fine with AT&T. After searching for weeks I FINALLY won a reasonable eBay auction.
My phone arrived today. This makes my Atrix look like a toy. This is the most solid and well built Android device I have ever seen. Certainly right there with the iPhone, if not better. I also was suprised to see that this phone has a much better camera than the Atrix as well. Also the speaker is the loudest and clearest I have come across. My co workers thought I was blasting a laptop earlier it was so loud. Totally blown away with this phone.
In my opinion this phone can not be touched right now. Sure there are phones on the market that have quad cores and twice the RAM, but I bet you those same phones don't have the build quality of this one. And if they even come close, there will be something else lacking, such as the camera or speaker (Optimus G). It just seems that the RAZR HD is good in every single category a phone can be.
I really hope motorola keeps this up and I can't wait to see whats next.
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I agree. This is the best phone I've ever used.
Consumer Reports have at the best Verizon phone available.
This is the best phone I've used as well, but my only other smartphone was a Motorola Defy, and while long in the tooth now, an avid development community on this forum has kept it going. It'll be getting 4.2 before my RazrHD gets 4.1, at this rate. Actually, scratch that, CyanogenMod 4.2 on Defy is at about the same stage as 4.1 for RazrHD.
Just waiting for the software to catch up with the hardware. I miss Jelly Bean, but I don't want an early alpha on my phone again, I use it for work.
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Yep I think without a question the Razr Maxx HD is the best Android out. The build quality cannot be touched by samsung and htc sure there are quad core phones out but as someone pointed out they are running heavy touchwiz or sense skins that use up resources. I love it how close to stock android the RAZR is, its not like touchwiz and sense where you have to throw on a launcher just to get a decent experience.
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I was wondering if this is basically a Defy but for AT&T and without all the extra ruggedness. The two phones look a lot alike.
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The main differences:
The bravo has (Compared to Defy):
3.15 MP camera (Instead of 5MP)
109.5 x 63 x 13.3 mm (Instead of 107 x 59 x 13.4 mm)
No active noise cancelation (Instead of crystaltalk)
And some other points like the gorilla glass, IP 67 standard, image stabilization (?) are missing.
Some videos on youtube looked laggy...might be because of the live wallpaper they used (same CPU as the Defy)
i don't know about the price, but the Defy is the way to go if i had to choose.
Played with them both yesterday, and ended up going home with a Bravo. The Defy always seemed laggy, whereas the Bravo only got laggy with certain live wallpapers turned on. Thought they would be exactly the same performance wise, but it didn't end up that way. I'd like gorrila glass and all that ruggedness, but at the end of the day i'd prefer a snappy phone. Now i just gotta wait for the people on here to start doing their thing so i can get rid of all these useless AT&T branded apps.
FYI, I actually managed to get rid of all AT&T branded apps, including AT&T address book using Titanium Backup.
Removing AT&T apps
I'm an employee of at&T and I found a way to remove them the same way with Ti Backup after a root on my Bravo (shhhhh)...pretty simple with one touch after Ti is on your phone. Have to say, after reading all these posts and such I do feel like AT&T could do a better job of lightening the restrictions on the android platform. It's because we have a large handful of "buy this anyway" customers that don't have the full interest of customizing android the way it's supposed to be. I talk to customers on a daily basis about the benefits while they stare at me like I'm Yoda. I'm already submitting service forms in the hopes that AT&T will listen when I say lift the restrictions...that is all. BTW, someone get some ROMs for this thing.
Does getting rid of the AT&T apps improve your phones performance?
Also, I just got this little Bravo and I love it! I already have a Captivate and an Aria and this guy beats them both. Best performance, best battery, great screen, and perfect size for me.
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I'm an employee of at&T and I found a way to remove them the same way with Ti Backup after a root on my Bravo (shhhhh)...pretty simple with one touch after Ti is on your phone. Have to say, after reading all these posts and such I do feel like AT&T could do a better job of lightening the restrictions on the android platform. It's because we have a large handful of "buy this anyway" customers that don't have the full interest of customizing android the way it's supposed to be. I talk to customers on a daily basis about the benefits while they stare at me like I'm Yoda. I'm already submitting service forms in the hopes that AT&T will listen when I say lift the restrictions...that is all. BTW, someone get some ROMs for this thing.
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I had a Bravo for about a month and I got tired of waiting.
Unfortunately, I found most member on Motorola's own Bravo support forum are very ..."defensive". They tried to make sense out of their choice, rather than, speak up for the truth.
I'd admit I am a die-hard Moto fan, but I am not about stick to something that is not going to happen...... ( I doubt Bravo is getting 2.2, same broken promised of my Cliq XT )
Word of advice.... sell your Bravo, ebay or craigslist, and get yourself a Defy.
I am so glad that I did! It is like upgrading your PC from Vista to W7 with SSD.
They both have gorilla glass.
Yes they both have gorilla glass and they are essentially the same phone, my wife has the bravo, I HAD the Defy, just upgraded to the Atrix. The only fundamental difference is the added water/dust proofing on the Defy. Both the amount of on-board data storage, I believe the Defy has "2Gb" and the Bravo has "2Gb" of storage, as well as processors, are identical - both have 800Mhz processors, they run at almost identical speeds.
Defy has flash for camera and an additional button function on face plate.
Also most posts I have seen seems that Defy is a non US issue phone. There are sbf files and even roms for the Defy so it "maybe" possible to use the Defy roms on the Bravo.
Posting for some info into this possibility on the Defy forum has not revealed tuned out any response.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/motorola-pro-announced-with-gingerbread-few-other-improvements/
The changes are as follows:
Screen resolution is going from HVGA (320x480) to VGA (480x640)
Battery capacity gets a bump from 1420 mAh to 1600 mAh
Android 2.3 (instead of 2.2)
4GB internal memory (over 2GB in the Pro)
Rounder form factor
Weighs 113g (down from 134g)
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I think that's it. Thoughts? I, for one, certainly welcome the more capacious battery and higher screen resolution (though that's hardly a big deal on such a small screen). I'm a bit bummed that they didn't use this opportunity to make the screen a bit larger, and include directional keys.
Quite disappointed actually - what is this? A facelift?
This could have been a serious opportunity for Motorola to really create a "grim reaper" for the new Blackberry - and they are just giving it away with something that is already out-dated before its even out! No dual-core cpu? No front-facing camera? Only a VGA screen?? I mean come on .. once in a time, Droids were top of the line Android devices with the latest tech and now Moto just seems to retreat and leave that job to Samsung and LG ... Oh and something else, it doesnt look half as attractive and cheeky as the original Pro ... just my 2 cents ..
No front camera + no screen size increase = FAIL.
I mean come on, how hard is it to make that screen a 3.5 inch? Or at least a 3.3?
I just wish I could get it here in the US. I really don't want to go to Verizon just to get this style of phone.
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I just wish I could get it here in the US. I really don't want to go to Verizon just to get this style of phone.
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I've read in several places that it's anticipated to come to the US as well. It evidently has support for both AT&T and T-Mobile: http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/08/30/motorola.pro.plus.unveiled/
Even if it doesn't get an official release in the US, it should be fairly easy to get an unlocked one from overseas.
The phone is definitely a disappointment for me. I love my Pro, and I was looking forward to some sort of significant bump up. Oh well, I guess I'll start looking elsewhere.
Great. I want the better resolution. My BB 9780 had SUCH a glorious screen, the Droid Pro aint bad, but it aint stellar either. Can't wait for this to come out.
Getting my MOTOROLA PRO+ (AKA: MB632, "Elway Plus", apparently...), on Monday, from the UK... Very disappointed to see that there is very little (practically nothing), about said device - and even about its predecessor the DROID PRO - but yet other "not-so-good" (but similar in a way) devices (ie: Samsung Cha-Cha), do even have custom ROMs available at this stage!
This is a very good device (on paper at the moment, I will find out more in 48h when I finally have it) but for those of us that want a "bar" type, qwerty keyboarded, Android smartphone, for mostly emails, texting, calls (obviously) and - most important (at least as far as Im concerned): one of the best battery lives amongst all Android devices! - this is a dream! ...but of course if you are one of them people who use their smartphones more like a tablet (movies, games, music, etc.) than a phone, then this device is not for you...
MOTOROLA PRO+ "Temp Forum"
Im hoping not to be contravening any rules here but since there is barely any info on the MOTOROLA PRO+ at the moment (not much info either on its predecessor MOTOROLA (DROID) PRO), I though all little bits of infor around (I have posted a few things in different places) could be gathered in one place - HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19973225#post19973225 ...at least until when (and if) a dedicated section is created for this device...
Vote for Motorola Pro+ Forum
everyone should go to: Link and vote +1 for a separate Motorola Pro+ Forum
I just got mine ordered and should be here soon. I'm actually excited. I've been using blackberries for 5 years and selling phones for just about the same length of time. I switched to android but after a year I still find typing to still be a pain and a blackberry just can't be fully replaced due to their amazing keyboards. All keyboard android alternatives are horrible. After reading all the reviews this phone sounds exactly like a perfect combination of android meets blackberry.
I have an Optimus 3D, and an HTC Sensation and i can say are super powerfull devices.
I have the change to get an Motorola Atrix ( no 4G the normal ) But i dont know if is a good phone, i have got a Motorola Defy Few months ago, and well is cheap..
Just i have interest in the raw powers of 3D, and the camera, and the screen of course.
Thanks by the way and excuse my bad english.
First of all I don't understand why you would want a new phone when you have either of those. The differences simply aren't that big to make a difference in real world performance. Unless you are looking for some very specific feature that I missed.
However the atrix in my opinion is all-around a very good phone. Nowhere in the same league as the defy that you mentioned.
For the features you mentioned:
Camera is a bit lacking compared to your devices but is nice.
Screen is pretty accurate on colors. Specifically whites but is a bit less easy on the eyes then what people are accustomed to. Also is efficient on battery.
Atrix also has a very big battery if you find a good build
Being that you have those phones I would personally wait atleast a year before getting a new one if you want to feel any difference.
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First of all I don't understand why you would want a new phone when you have either of those. The differences simply aren't that big to make a difference in real world performance. Unless you are looking for some very specific feature that I missed.
However the atrix in my opinion is all-around a very good phone. Nowhere in the same league as the defy that you mentioned.
For the features you mentioned:
Camera is a bit lacking compared to your devices but is nice.
Screen is pretty accurate on colors. Specifically whites but is a bit less easy on the eyes then what people are accustomed to. Also is efficient on battery.
Atrix also has a very big battery if you find a good build
Being that you have those phones I would personally wait atleast a year before getting a new one if you want to feel any difference.
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Haha, that two phones, only 1 is mine, the another one is from my father..
But well, mi brother needs a new phone and i want to see that atrix.
But however, this phone doesnt seems popular, and i want to know, why.
For mee seems a good phone, 1Gig of ram Tegra, QHD display, HDMI Out.. but the people doesnt seems interested on this phone, and i dont know why.
Maybe im missing something.
I don't think that there is any problem with this device, as you said, its hardware is superb!
However, the reason, I believe, that you cant see it in masses is the fact that at first its bootloader was locked and didnt alowed flashing whatever you want on it.
another thing is that altough Moto first priced it relatively low, the operators didnt followed and generally priced it somewhat high, especially if the lapdock was evolved...
anyhow, I think that it is slightly better then the sensation, and can cope with almost everything you throw at it.
If that's the case then well there's nothing bad about this phone (unless you don't like the screen. People seem to have mixed opinions about it).
I don't think you'll be dissapointed with it.
As for its relatively low fanbase... well you can just say it started out on the wrong foot. Nothing wrong with it now.
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Ill be connected with the atrix for awhile. Even after I get an ics sandwich phone the atrix doubles up as versatile entertainment/internet device with the lapdock.
Iphone > galaxy s 2.
Choose between SGS II, SE Arc and Atrix. Chose Atrix and not regret it, but upgrading to 2.3.4
The true Atrix beauty lies on it's accesory set and Webtop environment.
I loved the Atrix without those accessories, but once I got the Lapdock and started playing with the TRUE HDMI capabilities, I was blown away!
I honestly think that no one can express their opinion about the Atrix without first trying the Lapdock with a modded Webtop.
I'm no Linux guru by any means, and I can tell you that it's really easy to hack the Webtop to do almost everything you do with a regular Netbook.
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Well, been using my GS3 for about 4 days now and I must say that I am somewhat underwhelmed by it so far. The jump between my EVO to the Epic 4G Touch was much greater than that from the E4GT to the GS3 (as expected). However, there are 3 gripes that I just bothering me more than I initially thought they would:
1. Camera - The Epic 4G Touch's picture quality is light-years ahead than that of the GS3. This is really unacceptable for a flagship device. Sure, the shutter speed is quite fast, but the quality is just not there. Part of the reason I skipped over the Galaxy Nexus was the camera inferiority to the E4GT and here I am with the GS3. The HTC EVO LTE at the store seemed to take amazing pictures. Haven't compared them side-by-side, but I feel I'll be more disappointed if I do.
2. The power button - I don't see a lot of people complaining about this, but I'm having a difficult time adjusting to the power button. The curved bezel in conjunction with the flushness of the button makes it hard to find/press it most of the time. Even though it feels quite clickable, it takes some digging around every time I need to use it. I'm hoping that the Slim Case I ordered will help with this as the cutouts will guide me better. It's a small gripe, I know, but it's enough to annoy me.
3. Speed - I know that this phone will smoke most of the competition, including the E4GT, but I'm not really blown-away by it. Once the apps are opened (which I admit to being quite fast), it seems to take longer for the information to download and appear (Play Store, Facebook, etc). I don't know if it's the connection or the phone itself. Never had this issue with the previous phone.
That's about it really. I know it's nothing major, but it's enough to taint my experiences. I'll give it another week before I decide what to do with it. But I'm really leaning towards the HTC EVO LTE (even though I find it hideous) or just going with a Galaxy Nexus (and not have to worry about future upgrades, etc).
Sorry about the rant... just had to let it out.
Speed -
You don't feel smoothness , and fast information because android
The problem is not the device , its the software
Android is still "buggy" , i have Asus Prime Tegra 3 -and i dont feel smoothness
Maybe next android version will be more smoother and faster
Just return it and stop complaining
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The power button on mine is not quite right too, it is less flushed against the bezel compared to the volume rocker and creaks at the touch, it also feels spongy when pushed. That's not enough to slate the phone though because I know the capabilities of this beast hence I'm waiting for my exchange. If yours is the same ill advise you to do the same.
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You're using the Sprint version right? If so, why are you posting in the international GT-I9300 forum?
Plus, it's already been quoted in several reviews that the US versions have a slight lag during usage that the international version does not. Just return the phone and move on.
@Stea1thmode: Thanks bud! Will do!
@everyone else: Take your meds and learn to deal with criticism.
This phone was really smooth for me. Bur my major problem is not being able to get into download mode.
The screen is also mediocre. =/ Wondering if I should have bought LG Optimus 4x instead, I only picked this phone for the custom firmwares..
There's nothing worse than having an S3 on Sprint. It's bad enough that you have to deal with the inferior CPU, but also the non-existent LTE network that is set to debut sometime between now and when hell freezes over.
why do US variant owners come to the international section to B!TCH and complain?????
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why do US variant owners come to the international section to B!TCH and complain?????
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Because we can.
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@everyone else: Take your meds and learn to deal with criticism.
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Criticism would be if you told Samsung that some things could be better. You're just complaining about a phone that doesn't live up to your standards.
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O, we have an internet macho man here .... tough guy eh?
Closed, because you posted this in the wrong forum for a start, and because its a stupid thread.
Had some idle time, went to a local electronics shop.
Browsed through the mega offering of tablets.
Left utterly convinced that the 7.7 still is heaps ahead of anything offered there.
...hadn't swiped the stupid grin out of my face, after arriving home, when I stumbled upon this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3E7fUynrZU
Perfect now, more to come, it seems...Giddyup!
XK
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Had some idle time, went to a local electronics shop.
Browsed through the mega offering of tablets.
Left utterly convinced that the 7.7 still is heaps ahead of anything offered there.
...hadn't swiped the stupid grin out of my face, after arriving home, when I stumbled upon this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3E7fUynrZU
Perfect now, more to come, it seems...Giddyup!
XK
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I like my 7.7 better than my nexus 7. You wouldn't think. 7 inches would make much of a difference but it does.
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LOL I love this!
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everyone love that... but the current price will be crazy...
I don't necessarily love that.
....It's just that Samsung is clearly the front innovator here.
As soon as they step up product manufacturing quality and get their commercial vector to focus, they will be on their way to absolute "portable communications + media devices" market dominance (...they may need to get someone new to achieve that focus...).
Myself, I am thinking about this:
http://slant.investorplace.com/2012/10/forget-apple-stock-heres-how-to-buy-a-slice-of-samsung/
XK
Flexible is one thing but can a crease be made in the display by accidentally folding it?
My wifi 7.7 finally came in yesterday. Thing is leaps and bounds over the Nexus 7 I had. Screen is absolutely superb and the speakers are great. Best part is I dont have to worry about it falling apart in my hand like that dam Nexus. When I got it out of the box it was on HC but immediately flashed up a message for the jump to ICS. Im really surprised how smooth it runs on ICS. Ive tweaked it to my liking and disabled some of the crap. But all in all im extremely pleased with it.
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everyone love that... but the current price will be crazy...
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Considering my N7 was 250 and my 7.7 was only 270 through Verizon with mobile data for $10 a month with no contract plus a way better screen, better build quality, and looks way better totally worth it. Tegra 3 isn't all that. I don't mind the lack of development so much but I really wish samsung would support this like it really should. There are tabs still being released as new with similar hardware specs and have jelly bean and will still get updated. This tab really shouldn't of had HC out of the box when it was released IMO.
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Browsed through the mega offering of tablets.
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In 11 days I will have owned this for 1 year and I am blown away that there is not yet a tablet I would prefer over this one. The Note 8 would be nice, but without the AMOLED screen, I still prefer the 7.7.
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In 11 days I will have owned this for 1 year and I am blown away that there is not yet a tablet I would prefer over this one. The Note 8 would be nice, but without the AMOLED screen, I still prefer the 7.7.
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It's pretty incredible, isn't it?
I laughed at the advert part of that samsung thing when the guy puts the tab on the table with the flashing lights on it.