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Vibrant forum dying?

Before I get to my point I want to thank all the devs for there hard work that they do in their spare time. They do it for free and hope that some of us donate to make it a little more worth their while.
Maybe it's just me or does it seem like the development thread is slowing down. I've noticed lately that most of the stuff coming in now is ports from other phones and updates for past builds. Theres not alot of new stuff rolling out. EDT seems to stay busy, but what happend to TW? I would have put money on having a stable 2.3 rom out by now to use as a daily driver. We also lost Eugene and leaked samsung builds seem to not be coming out as often.
Is our phone entering the twilight years? Are the dev's losing interest and working on other phones. I've played around with some of the new phones like the atrix and thunderbolt and i'm sure they could be a lil more interesting to build for.
I hope i'm wrong and 5 min. after I post this a new 2.3 rom comes out. It was fun when you flashed a new trigger rom and 1 day later the new bionix came out. This is a really nice phone and you have to really try hard to brick it. It's almost like Samsung designed it to be modded. Hopefully the devs can get inspired again or some new blood comes in to give us something new.

I think we need to be patient. One day there will be a leak for gb and things will fire up again.
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just relax man every phone goes through spells of development. I see you only joined in april so just wait, Whitehawkx had a mostly working gb port working minus the gps and we have CM7 and MIUI support now as well.
Be patient this phone is amazing and im certain development will continue for it for some time.
In the mean time flash a miui beta or try out the EDT roms you wont be disappointed.

Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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u guys keep us coming back for more every day and i thank you for that! great job on all this.

explodingboy70 said:
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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Yes, but point being is that we're pretty much at the mercy of Samsung & T-Mobile to release a 2.3.
We will not have a kernel source to play with until it releases for I9K, and even then we'll have issues for a while. And we won't have one with rockin' battery life until we get a leak or source.
But yeah, there really isn't much developing coming from anyone except the guys working on kernels & people like Whitehawk, sonique, and of course Untermench who actaully modify the code. Because there's not much else to do.

Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!

explodingboy70 said:
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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I actually have tried to develop a theme to post here but there is so much involved with all the editing and i simply don't have the time. I really wish I did. Trust me I have a great respect for what the dev's do once I started playing around with just a theme. I can only imagine what a rom would take. Plus I can honestly say i'm not skilled enough to put out a quality rom any time soon, if ever. I'm really not complaining about effort or quantity from the devs, i've just noticed lately there seems to be a dull in the dev section. I was just wondering why.

Eugene is back. He said on twitter that he bought a Vibrant. You can see evidence, his newest Ginger Clone version has already had 4 updates.
Sure a lot of the development is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms, but I'd say we're easily WAY more active than we used to be. We've now got plenty of choices of roms, kernels, and themes. We've also got new people joining the Vibe development scene. There's an experimental Gingerbread Sense that's just started testing. We are now officially supported by the MIUI team. I see new things happening every day. Development doesn't always happen overnight, but I believe we've still got lots of good things look forward to.

Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.

Tarzanman said:
Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?

dcontrol said:
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Haha yeah I remember that too. But ROMs every week != good. Most of them are ports and aren't stable.
I really wish we could have AOSP roms so we could have TRUE development going on. None of this hack and patch stuff.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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They want CM lol (as do I)

Why do we keep having these threads. I rooted my phone late last year. I have been more then satisfied. I'm just glad to have a faster better phone than what I had originally. Just have some damn patience.
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.

What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^

masterotaku said:
Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
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Well said. It's just like what happened when I had the N1, people started to complain because the roms were so stable there weren't many updates being released.

regP said:
I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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i dont know either...
2.3 probably WILL be faster than 2.2 (duh) but besides the speed, we have everything else.
All thats going to be different is when you go into settings about it will say 2.3 gingerbread
instead of 2.2 or 2.2.1
the rest is good.
im on miui, and i switch between cm7 and miui once in a while
im never going back to 2.2.1

birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.

birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Well said. Someone just asked on one of my 2.2.1 threads why it was so quiet and my only thought was because everything works. Here it is everything has been fixed there should be nothing left to discuss here flash and enjoy.
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thegreatcity said:
Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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That's the point for me. I stopped updating at KA6. Sure KA7 came out not long after, but why? I had been updating daily/weekly until then, always fighting some bug or flaw. With KA6, I flashed the ODIN version, removed bloatware myself, added the round battery icon, power off menu, and that was *it*. More recently I've updated the Kernel to Overstock 2.x and voodoo FS, but I'm not even sure why I need voodoo. Can't tell a difference in the real speed of the phone.
I didn't take the phone apart to add FFC like so many did (and who also never use it in most cases), so I don't need improved support for that... and themes, well... I guess there is that, not much going on in KA6 themes -- but that doesn't affect the use of the phone at all.
KA6 for me has been fast, stable, and by far the best on battery life of any I've touched yet. There are few if any programs out there that require 2.3 or higher, and until that is the case, why change?
The atmosphere is totally different than it was last fall, when the rest of the world was going 2.2 and Vibrant was stuck on 2.1. At that time, there were an increasing number of programs that simply would not work on Eclair - plus Froyo had been promised as an update. Now we have everything Samsung promised, and really if you're running a lightly modded ROM, it *is* bug-free.
So... until I am forced to consider 2.3, I'm sticking with KA6.. It is nice after years of constantly flashing upgrades on the HTC Vogue (wm6), then the G1, then flashing the MT3G constantly, then constantly flashing the Vibrant, to actually pick up my phone and have it work the same way it did yesterday.

Will we see Ice Cream Sandwhich?

Either through ota updates or unofficial ports?

sorry
I don't think officially we will get ics. But there standard a great chance of getting it on our tablets.If you need icecream right now I suggest doing as I do.Dairy Queen is close to most everyone.
Good luck

erica_renee said:
I don't think officially we will get ics. But there standard a great chance of getting it on our tablets.If you need icecream right now I suggest doing as I do.Dairy Queen is close to most everyone.
Good luck
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Ahh I love dairy queen
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Ahh I love dairy queen
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On a serious note I do think it will be ported to our device.
OK take me for a blizzard. I just finished dinner.

Quit making me hungry

Because ICS will be optimized for both tablets and phones, I think we'll begin to see a lot more tablet support from Cyanogenmod.
Speaking of which, I'm looking at buying an a500, and I was trying to find out if there is either a beta, or an unofficial CM port, but when I searched this forum for cyanogenmod I got 0 hits. Is search broken, or am I missing something? From what I've read, the bootloader lock was cracked, so why is no one on the whole a500 forum talking about CM?

I am not 100 % sure but I think cm is still on 2.3.whatever whereas we are on 3.x.x
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suomaf said:
I am not 100 % sure but I think cm is still on 2.3.whatever whereas we are on 3.x.x
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That's bc honeycomb isn't open source but ICS will be so there should be cm support.
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No icecream that stuff will make you fat

I think that we may see an official update through Acer depending on the requirements Google has for the hardware part of ICS.
I also believe that CM will most likely stay exclusive to phones. Although ICS will support both phones and tablets, I don't see CM moving away from making custom Roms for phones.
However, I do hope that the CM team will be willing to try something new seeing as the ICS code should be very similar for both Tablets and Phones.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.

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I think that we may see an official update through Acer depending on the requirements Google has for the hardware part of ICS.
I also believe that CM will most likely stay exclusive to phones. Although ICS will support both phones and tablets, I don't see CM moving away from making custom Roms for phones.
However, I do hope that the CM team will be willing to try something new seeing as the ICS code should be very similar for both Tablets and Phones.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
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Cm as you pointed out is a team so all it takes is for root on a tab and a team member to get that tab and I'm sure cm ICS will make it to tabs.
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After checking out the cm website they already support the b&n book and the g-tab
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my favorite ICS is Maxibon
amidoingitrite?

cm did great work on the nook color, they did what they could to make 2.3 functional on the nook adding bluetooth, bottom status bar w/ buttons and much more. i cant wait for ICS to come out and im sure they will throw some tablet love our way.

CM9 FlowChart

For all Vision/G2 users that are unsure or doubting that we'll get ICS on our devices this should EASE YOUR MIND!

source for those wondering: https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/XzbMYgotkmy
also, xda is a pretty demanding crowd; i don't know if 50% certainty will ease their minds

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/progress-on-cm9
According to that post, the MSM7x30 chip is in their scope of support, so it's more likely than just 50%.

It's 75% according to comments. Even if there is no official support, there are always resourceful developers. I've been using CM7 on my Defy for a long time before official support came.

By the way, that flowchart was a semi-joke. It's not meant to be totally definitive, but it does give an idea as to CM9 main requirements - i.e. 512MB RAM and an ICS official release on a device with the same chipset.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

It probably helps that we already have some fairly successful ICS builds on our devices. I've been running Andromadus v13 for a little while and it works really well. There are just a few things that need to be worked on (like the camera and gps lock). But for normal tasks, it runs really smoothly.

Yep, if no official CM9 ever comes Andromadus should be able to last me until my next phone.

wngmv said:
Yep, if no official CM9 ever comes Andromadus should be able to last me until my next phone.
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Agree, I never used the official CM (because of some personal opinions about them) and Icecream JIBwich based on Andromadus has been a fantastic G2 ICS ROM for me

I would personally break some **** if I couldn't get a official cm build. Just my reaction....
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i hope the qualcomm binary release helps fill the gap to get this device into the get.cm party.
if not... that sucks because andromedus roms are not sufficient for me unless i quit my job and no longer need to rely on dependable sync. otherwise its constant babysitting too many things.
Just wish i could know the answer now because im ready to ditch this device and move on to the next (but dont want to.. its a great gingerbread phone)
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androidcues said:
i hope the qualcomm binary release helps fill the gap to get this device into the get.cm party.
if not... that sucks because andromedus roms are not sufficient for me unless i quit my job and no longer need to rely on dependable sync. otherwise its constant babysitting too many things.
Just wish i could know the answer now because im ready to ditch this device and move on to the next (but dont want to.. its a great gingerbread phone)
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may I ask which binary release? Did they release anything related to the camera?

KyraOfFire said:
may I ask which binary release? Did they release anything related to the camera?
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No camera stuff, they released Adreno 2xx GPU drivers for ICS.
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tarroyo said:
For all Vision/G2 users that are unsure or doubting that we'll get ICS on our devices this should EASE YOUR MIND!
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Does this mean the Razr has a 75% chance of getting CM9. Am I understanding this right?

A big proposal on ICS

I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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beez1717 said:
I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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X2
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LMFAO, sorry but that is just a HORRIBLE idea. Devs already share information with each other on how to fix things. Stopping all development for a single rom? No way. People like certain things. Aspects from aokp, gummy,cna, cm9, aosp, they are ALL different so why would anyone want just one rom? I'd rather be able to choose from 12 different ics roms that are 95% working then just a single one that is 100% working, thats the beauty of development. One it's finished it's done. No more development.

beez1717 said:
I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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There does not seem to be many errors with current ICS ROMs (Excluding Bluetooth audio)
The only way to run ICS is to unlock your bootloader. Period.

beez1717 said:
I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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This comment is based on a misunderstanding of how the AOSP project, and CM9 for that matter, are structured. As agraceful said, devs from all over the world are already shairing their fixes, changes, and optimizations. Android isn't that fragmented. Each and every one of the ICS roms is based on one of 2 sources: CM9 AOSP, or a modified sony stock. The only thing the rom writers are changing for their individual roms are small features that don't change the fundamental functionality of the OS. PlayOSP, AOKP, FXP, CM9: they all operate and build from the same source code. If someone on the AOKP team fixes a problem, that solution will trickle down to all the other roms as soon as the code changes are committed.

Custom ROMs all have their pros and cons. It wouldn't be a bad idea if devs pooled their knowledge and skills to get a solid ICS base, then went off to apply their own customisations.
If ROMs like AOSP and CM9 etc are different then those specific devs could get together.
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MilkyJoePD said:
Custom ROMs all have their pros and cons. It wouldn't be a bad idea if devs pooled their knowledge and skills to get a solid ICS base, then went off to apply their own customisations.
If ROMs like AOSP and CM9 etc are different then those specific devs could get together.
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That's what I was trying to say.
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I've been working on a ICS ROM Based on Sony Beta for a few weeks now and to be honest I see no stability issues while using AOSP Theme, Supercharger, zRam, and so on, I've been playing Fifa 12 with no lag
Our best bet would to keep going like we are now, Because the rOMS are reasonably stable.

TheCraig said:
I've been working on a ICS ROM Based on Sony Beta for a few weeks now and to be honest I see no stability issues while using AOSP Theme, Supercharger, zRam, and so on, I've been playing Fifa 12 with no lag
Our best bet would to keep going like we are now, Because the rOMS are reasonably stable.
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I still reckon ICS MIUI is the most stable ICS rom for the Play. Plus, the themes are great (aside from the over abundance of Chinese text)

MilkyJoePD said:
Custom ROMs all have their pros and cons. It wouldn't be a bad idea if devs pooled their knowledge and skills to get a solid ICS base, then went off to apply their own customisations.
If ROMs like AOSP and CM9 etc are different then those specific devs could get together.
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They're already doing so. Only, they don't make it public but they commit on a git or go to IRC and talk about it.
Swypesation

Logseman said:
They're already doing so. Only, they don't make it public but they commit on a git or go to IRC and talk about it.
Swypesation
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I thought so (I said something similar in another thread).
If they went public imagine the PMs they'd get.
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Custom Development for the TF300t PLEASE !!

I want to start this thread to encourage Android Custom Rom Devs so we all can enjoy and benefit from their work.
We have seen incredible work built for other similar devices (eg: Asus Transformer TF101, Transformer Prime TF201,, Motorola Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab, and others). I don't want to mention any particular team or Dev, but we all know extraordinary people out there. Please jump on the TF300 bandwagon..we need you.
Cheers
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Actually, my vote goes for a custom stock ROM for those of us who like the stability and features of asus roms.

Makelegs builds of cm9 and aokp are great AOSP and what you guys have afasthat. You also seem to have an AOKP build up
I'm willing to try and put something together as I have a tad of experience with the TF101, but I don't have a tf300 to test with and I'd rather not accidentally brick a bunch of people with a bad release.
-shrugs-

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Actually, my vote goes for a custom stock ROM for those of us who like the stability and features of asus roms.
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+1 to this also
TEAM EOS.. where are you guys??

you know the TF300's stock rom is like 99% aosp right? the only thing i have noticed is the status bar has the toggles built in, the status bar locking thing, and some different icons for the back,home, multitask. and the addition of asus' "bloat" apps.
but as someone already said, there are some CM9 and AOKP builds available already. they may not be official builds, but that is only because the AOKP team doesn't have a tf300 to work with.

Gotta have some patience bro We do have talented devs for this tablet already. Don't forget its only been out a month or 2 and its gonna take time for people to make the jump to this tablet. Give it time this community will grow
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s2monkey said:
Gotta have some patience bro We do have talented devs for this tablet already. Don't forget its only been out a month or 2 and its gonna take time for people to make the jump to this tablet. Give it time this community will grow
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You are somehow correct my friend but... encouraging does not mean lack of patience.
There is quite a bit of development done for a very similar device ( TF201 )... actually a couple of CM9 roms are branched from TF201 development.
There are other gadgets out there launched on the same date the TF300 was and there are custom kernels as well as AOSP and AOKP roms.. so, yes,... lets be patient but let them know we are waiting.
Cheers.

ricardowec said:
You are somehow correct my friend but... encouraging does not mean lack of patience.
There is quite a bit of development done for a very similar device ( TF201 )... actually a couple of CM9 roms are branched from TF201 development.
There are other gadgets out there launched on the same date the TF300 was and there are custom kernels as well as AOSP and AOKP roms.. so, yes,... lets be patient but let them know we are waiting.
Cheers.
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Yeah we'll get all that too no need to be jelly haha
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True. This awesome device needs more attention. I'm teaching my self coding so I hope some day have a custom build out there.
I got this tablet 48 hours ago and already running this custom rom with Apex Launcher. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750861
I saw you wondering in that thread as well.
And I do have to say that you don't enjoy the amazing Android experience until you start flashing.
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