A big proposal on ICS - Xperia Play General

I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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beez1717 said:
I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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LMFAO, sorry but that is just a HORRIBLE idea. Devs already share information with each other on how to fix things. Stopping all development for a single rom? No way. People like certain things. Aspects from aokp, gummy,cna, cm9, aosp, they are ALL different so why would anyone want just one rom? I'd rather be able to choose from 12 different ics roms that are 95% working then just a single one that is 100% working, thats the beauty of development. One it's finished it's done. No more development.

beez1717 said:
I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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There does not seem to be many errors with current ICS ROMs (Excluding Bluetooth audio)
The only way to run ICS is to unlock your bootloader. Period.

beez1717 said:
I propose that every dev stop their custom made ICS roms and instead work together to make the best ICS rom possible. I feel that now that Sony has abandoned ICS for us that we should be collaborating together to finish what they WON'T. Perhaps we could even create a gingerbread backwards compatibility app or plug in or something like that. This could be epic. Who is with me?
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This comment is based on a misunderstanding of how the AOSP project, and CM9 for that matter, are structured. As agraceful said, devs from all over the world are already shairing their fixes, changes, and optimizations. Android isn't that fragmented. Each and every one of the ICS roms is based on one of 2 sources: CM9 AOSP, or a modified sony stock. The only thing the rom writers are changing for their individual roms are small features that don't change the fundamental functionality of the OS. PlayOSP, AOKP, FXP, CM9: they all operate and build from the same source code. If someone on the AOKP team fixes a problem, that solution will trickle down to all the other roms as soon as the code changes are committed.

Custom ROMs all have their pros and cons. It wouldn't be a bad idea if devs pooled their knowledge and skills to get a solid ICS base, then went off to apply their own customisations.
If ROMs like AOSP and CM9 etc are different then those specific devs could get together.
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MilkyJoePD said:
Custom ROMs all have their pros and cons. It wouldn't be a bad idea if devs pooled their knowledge and skills to get a solid ICS base, then went off to apply their own customisations.
If ROMs like AOSP and CM9 etc are different then those specific devs could get together.
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That's what I was trying to say.
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I've been working on a ICS ROM Based on Sony Beta for a few weeks now and to be honest I see no stability issues while using AOSP Theme, Supercharger, zRam, and so on, I've been playing Fifa 12 with no lag
Our best bet would to keep going like we are now, Because the rOMS are reasonably stable.

TheCraig said:
I've been working on a ICS ROM Based on Sony Beta for a few weeks now and to be honest I see no stability issues while using AOSP Theme, Supercharger, zRam, and so on, I've been playing Fifa 12 with no lag
Our best bet would to keep going like we are now, Because the rOMS are reasonably stable.
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I still reckon ICS MIUI is the most stable ICS rom for the Play. Plus, the themes are great (aside from the over abundance of Chinese text)

MilkyJoePD said:
Custom ROMs all have their pros and cons. It wouldn't be a bad idea if devs pooled their knowledge and skills to get a solid ICS base, then went off to apply their own customisations.
If ROMs like AOSP and CM9 etc are different then those specific devs could get together.
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They're already doing so. Only, they don't make it public but they commit on a git or go to IRC and talk about it.
Swypesation

Logseman said:
They're already doing so. Only, they don't make it public but they commit on a git or go to IRC and talk about it.
Swypesation
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I thought so (I said something similar in another thread).
If they went public imagine the PMs they'd get.
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Will we see Ice Cream Sandwhich?

Either through ota updates or unofficial ports?
sorry
I don't think officially we will get ics. But there standard a great chance of getting it on our tablets.If you need icecream right now I suggest doing as I do.Dairy Queen is close to most everyone.
Good luck
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I don't think officially we will get ics. But there standard a great chance of getting it on our tablets.If you need icecream right now I suggest doing as I do.Dairy Queen is close to most everyone.
Good luck
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Ahh I love dairy queen
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Ahh I love dairy queen
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On a serious note I do think it will be ported to our device.
OK take me for a blizzard. I just finished dinner.
Quit making me hungry
Because ICS will be optimized for both tablets and phones, I think we'll begin to see a lot more tablet support from Cyanogenmod.
Speaking of which, I'm looking at buying an a500, and I was trying to find out if there is either a beta, or an unofficial CM port, but when I searched this forum for cyanogenmod I got 0 hits. Is search broken, or am I missing something? From what I've read, the bootloader lock was cracked, so why is no one on the whole a500 forum talking about CM?
I am not 100 % sure but I think cm is still on 2.3.whatever whereas we are on 3.x.x
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suomaf said:
I am not 100 % sure but I think cm is still on 2.3.whatever whereas we are on 3.x.x
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That's bc honeycomb isn't open source but ICS will be so there should be cm support.
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No icecream that stuff will make you fat
I think that we may see an official update through Acer depending on the requirements Google has for the hardware part of ICS.
I also believe that CM will most likely stay exclusive to phones. Although ICS will support both phones and tablets, I don't see CM moving away from making custom Roms for phones.
However, I do hope that the CM team will be willing to try something new seeing as the ICS code should be very similar for both Tablets and Phones.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
monkeychef said:
I think that we may see an official update through Acer depending on the requirements Google has for the hardware part of ICS.
I also believe that CM will most likely stay exclusive to phones. Although ICS will support both phones and tablets, I don't see CM moving away from making custom Roms for phones.
However, I do hope that the CM team will be willing to try something new seeing as the ICS code should be very similar for both Tablets and Phones.
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
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Cm as you pointed out is a team so all it takes is for root on a tab and a team member to get that tab and I'm sure cm ICS will make it to tabs.
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After checking out the cm website they already support the b&n book and the g-tab
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my favorite ICS is Maxibon
amidoingitrite?
cm did great work on the nook color, they did what they could to make 2.3 functional on the nook adding bluetooth, bottom status bar w/ buttons and much more. i cant wait for ICS to come out and im sure they will throw some tablet love our way.

ICS Miui probably next week

It seems according to Miui Netherlands that friday next week Miui will release roms based on ICS. Source and screenshots http://www.miui-nl.com/?p=2078.
Don`t knowi f it`s the real thing but we`ll see!
gee2012 said:
It seems according to Miui Netherlands that friday next week Miui will release roms based on ICS. Source and screenshots http://www.miui-nl.com/?p=2078.
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I think it will be for xiaomi android phone only. There was not specified device yet.
i wonder from where they get half of their work.
But never mind that, i never liked their rom's so probably i won't be using this one also...
Just looks like this thread (i.e. facebook) regurgitated into a speculative blog post. In other words, pointless spam.
I don't think that the miui devs are able to make it work without the underlying stuff from the cm9 guys.
But i have to admit that im using the latest miui, because its just nice to look out without investing much time in tweaking the look'n'feel. I guess miui will loose a lot of fans when ics is out, becajse its so polished
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supermult said:
I don't think that the miui devs are able to make it work without the underlying stuff from the cm9 guys.
But i have to admit that im using the latest miui, because its just nice to look out without investing much time in tweaking the look'n'feel. I guess miui will loose a lot of fans when ics is out, becajse its so polished
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In the same boat, NEVER had any ambition to try miui. Last week I gave the latest galnet build a try and wow! Most people wont bother to try (like me) but if you have 20 minutes, do yourself a favor and nandroid and try out galnet or regular miui.
Maybe there WILL be MIUI for some devices next week - there already are some really good Custom-ICS-ROMs for some devices right now...
Unfortunately, development for our device will take a little longer - mic during calls, camera, etc. aren't working yet, so there's no working code MIUI Team can steal!

Custom Development for the TF300t PLEASE !!

I want to start this thread to encourage Android Custom Rom Devs so we all can enjoy and benefit from their work.
We have seen incredible work built for other similar devices (eg: Asus Transformer TF101, Transformer Prime TF201,, Motorola Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab, and others). I don't want to mention any particular team or Dev, but we all know extraordinary people out there. Please jump on the TF300 bandwagon..we need you.
Cheers
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Actually, my vote goes for a custom stock ROM for those of us who like the stability and features of asus roms.
Makelegs builds of cm9 and aokp are great AOSP and what you guys have afasthat. You also seem to have an AOKP build up
I'm willing to try and put something together as I have a tad of experience with the TF101, but I don't have a tf300 to test with and I'd rather not accidentally brick a bunch of people with a bad release.
-shrugs-
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Actually, my vote goes for a custom stock ROM for those of us who like the stability and features of asus roms.
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+1 to this also
TEAM EOS.. where are you guys??
you know the TF300's stock rom is like 99% aosp right? the only thing i have noticed is the status bar has the toggles built in, the status bar locking thing, and some different icons for the back,home, multitask. and the addition of asus' "bloat" apps.
but as someone already said, there are some CM9 and AOKP builds available already. they may not be official builds, but that is only because the AOKP team doesn't have a tf300 to work with.
Gotta have some patience bro We do have talented devs for this tablet already. Don't forget its only been out a month or 2 and its gonna take time for people to make the jump to this tablet. Give it time this community will grow
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Gotta have some patience bro We do have talented devs for this tablet already. Don't forget its only been out a month or 2 and its gonna take time for people to make the jump to this tablet. Give it time this community will grow
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You are somehow correct my friend but... encouraging does not mean lack of patience.
There is quite a bit of development done for a very similar device ( TF201 )... actually a couple of CM9 roms are branched from TF201 development.
There are other gadgets out there launched on the same date the TF300 was and there are custom kernels as well as AOSP and AOKP roms.. so, yes,... lets be patient but let them know we are waiting.
Cheers.
ricardowec said:
You are somehow correct my friend but... encouraging does not mean lack of patience.
There is quite a bit of development done for a very similar device ( TF201 )... actually a couple of CM9 roms are branched from TF201 development.
There are other gadgets out there launched on the same date the TF300 was and there are custom kernels as well as AOSP and AOKP roms.. so, yes,... lets be patient but let them know we are waiting.
Cheers.
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Yeah we'll get all that too no need to be jelly haha
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True. This awesome device needs more attention. I'm teaching my self coding so I hope some day have a custom build out there.
I got this tablet 48 hours ago and already running this custom rom with Apex Launcher. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1750861
I saw you wondering in that thread as well.
And I do have to say that you don't enjoy the amazing Android experience until you start flashing.
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Atrix stable Jellybean ICs port

Hi, first of all i'm really thankful to all atrix dev team n all dev members on xda :good:
they r doing very good job working hard to make people happy we r really appreciate that.. Thanks to all dev :good:
Atrix stable ICs Jellybean port plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This request has been made on both the ICS and the JB versions. The answer remains the same. Until the 2.6.39.4 kernel is finished being dev'd, all roms are as stable as they can get. There are 3 kernels on the table for the more advanced android versions. 1. The ICS leak kernel. 2. The Galaxy R kernel. 3. The Xoom kernel. The ICS leak kernel is what you see the most of. Galaxy R kernel is more well known than the Xoom kernel dev. Galaxy R kernel dev may be observed in android dev under the ICS/JB kernel thread. The Xoom kernel is a quiet project that is mentioned in either the cm 9 or cm 10 rom that poped up a few days ago. The thread mentions "that kernel" in the thread title, and the user has toyota in their s/n.
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On a lighter(?) note:
I was expecting to see many replies tearing OP a new one. What happened to you Atrix 4G General?
Saw the title and got excited.
What the hell is this? Ban this guy.
I don't even understand what the op planned on accomplishing here.
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I don't even understand what the op planned on accomplishing here.
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I think it was a request for stable ICS or JB port, like somehow requesting it is going to make it happen faster because in the months (14?) since ICS was released, developers have been standing idly by waiting for this one specific request to build a stable ICS or JB ROM.
As for why there wasn't some kind of massive burn, it's kinda like poking a bee hive when all the bees have moved on to a new nest. Oh well, anything to keep this section of the forums alive I guess.
I think the OP was hoping for a good flaming. Trolls gonna troll.
are any of the ICS/JB roms for the Atrix ready for daily usage yet?
Depends on your needs. If you want strictly phone functions and don't care about anything else, then yes.
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Depends on your needs. If you want strictly phone functions and don't care about anything else, then yes.
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But then why would you feel the need to upgrade?
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But then why would you feel the need to upgrade?
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Because some people are stuck with the device and want to at least have the chance to try ICS or JB themselves, especially since ICS was officially released over a year ago. For some people the basic functionality of ICS or JB is worth losing camera/ camcorder, and hardware acceleration, or at least until they find they need those for something. For me it was fun to try, and a bit depressing to have to revert back to GB, but the loss of camera/camcorder functionality was too much and the things I wanted ICS for in the first place just didn't work.

TeamEos joins CodeFireX - discussion and testing

bigrushdog said:
Ohai! Here's the deal. I pulled the plug on the Eos project for a few reasons. First, I became unable to maintain the quality of the project while having to deal with countless internal systems issues and doing branch and build maintenance. Second, I didn't have control of the servers and other various resources, like the Goo account. That's why I couldn't get rid of the last two derped builds. Third, I'd rather focus on innovation than dealing with all the internal AOSP build system stuff. As of now, it appears the Eos servers are offline. Which is fine because i have the repository on numerous boxes and right here on my laptop. Finally, I was no longer enjoying Androiding. I NEEDED SOME FRESH ENERGY! Virtually the entire Eos team has already migrated to the new project and got their respective devices up and running! I put about 40 hours a week into Android and I needed to find some guys who have similar time to dedicate to a project. And that team is CodeFireX, lead by Synergy.
A little about Synergy, founder and new combined project team leader. Synergy is a linux guru. He is a master of the aosp build system and talented C programmer. Synergy leads the AOSP scene in innovative new optimization techniques and build solutions. TeamEos has worked closely with Synergy and CodeFireX for a while now. So the decision for us to migrate over to CFX made perfect sense.
When I drop some test builds, you will notice that, indeed, it is a new project, with some new philosophy. There is more CyanogenMod resources in this project. Particularly, some of the CyanogenMod apps including the CMFileManager and Apollo, the CM music player. We are also using the open source Superuser solution from Koush. "Why is this?" "Won't it look like a kang build?" Well, yes. But this project will be the one getting kanged. Like Eos, this project started with a pure AOSP base. I have been surgical in bringing in select desired resources from other teams. Synergy embraces the philosophy of having a solid build without a gapps package installed. In light of recent revelations regarding government surveillance, many people are enjoying Android without the Google Services. We want to provide a build that caters to these wise individuals. And, we feel that the open source CyanogenMod resources are the best. You will "feel" Eos in this build. The Eos spirit lives on in CFX. Always remember, it's not about team names, it's about people.
We now have a wealth of new resources to provide to our users. We have dedicated hosting in which downloading builds will be smoking fast. We have SERIOUS bandwidth. We also have a new forum in which we can provide users with tools that go beyond XDA support. However, I will continue to maintain XDA threads, of course. We have a sophisticated new ChangeLog scheme. And we now use Phabricator instead of Gerrit for project review.
Xoom users face a challenge now. Because of optimization, the build is rather large. Optimization increases the size of libraries and binaries. So, in order to get a successful Xoom build, I have to really "unbloat" the build. This is due to the Xoom having such a small system partition. And that brings us to gapps. Many of you know, CyanogenMod has made the decision to discontinue support on "non-neon" devices. The Xoom is one such device. The reason for this is mostly because Google is discontinuing support of non-neon devices as well. So, for now, I don't have a solid gapps solution. But i'll come up with something, I always do ;D
Test Builds: I should have round 1 up soon. First rounds will be no gapps and meant to simply test core functionality and hardware.
I truly hope you guys enjoy the new project. Besides, it's time to get some fresh ENERGY back in the Xoom scene anyway!
Stay tuned
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(Taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372197)
That said, welcome to the evolution of TeamEOS - CodefireX or more to say the CodefireXperiment!
Randall (bigrushdog) and me worked hard the last weeks to get the TF101 supported properly with CodefireXperiment, as we promised all devices supported by EOS will be supported by CFX, too .
I finally achieved a mostly working build yesterday, with main hardware working and I couldn't find any issues that EOS hasn't had.
I also ran some benchmarks and compared them to the latest EOS builds (the good ones, not the borked of course) with the help of @Roach2010, EOS and CodefireX team member and the original EOS on TF101 developer. We came to the conclusiion that CFX will give you a roughly estimated 10% performance boost, mostly notable for CPU and I/O performance.
So here I am, to share the first test build with the TF101 community!
Test build #1 - Download
Credits go to the original TeamEOS, and of course the new CodefireX team!
Special thanks go to @bigrushdog for helping me with TF101 bringup (mostly frameworks stuff, I really suck at that) and in general for being a nice team member who is always there for a chat, @synergye for leading the new team and bringing one HELL of optimizations to the new ROM and thus to the TF101. Thank him for the performance boost! @timduru also deserves at least a massive special thanks for assisting and contributing back in EOS times, sadly he didn't move over to CodefireX due to various reasons. However, we all know he enhanced EOS and especially the TF101 to an extend noone of us could have achieved on his own.
Tried this out this evening. Seems pretty good, but minimal, so far. Will check back again after some more work is done.
Pleasure to see you back Chris :good:
Let's test it!
Where to look for changelog, and stuff like "merged" "opened" ... as in Teamos ?
Cool!
I'm still using the last builds of Eos4 on both my Nexus7 and tf101. Both work so well I have a difficult time moving on to anything else, but i'm gonna give this a shot and see how I like it. Thanks for continuing to work on Android for us!
I wonder how long this will last.
Any screenshots?
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Have to say i forgot i still had the test build on my TF. Still going strong without a single issue to report. Hopefully get RaymanFX back with us for another stint seen as hes not allowed to move on and have a life of his own :laugh:
st0nedpenguin said:
I wonder how long this will last.
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Looks like it was over before it ever really got started.
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just lou said:
Looks like it was over before it ever really got started.
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Yup sad but true
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I've noticed quite a bit of development for alot of other devices from CodefireX, but I have not seen anything for the TF101 or any other Asus tablet. Have they abandoned this device line or just really slow to work on it? Timduru since returning from vacation has been a madman and has released not only multiple updates on the 4.2.2 chain but has moved the device onto a stable 4.3 ROM by himself.
Not criticizing here just curious.
Banetbc said:
I've noticed quite a bit of development for alot of other devices from CodefireX, but I have not seen anything for the TF101 or any other Asus tablet. Have they abandoned this device line or just really slow to work on it? Timduru since returning from vacation has been a madman and has released not only multiple updates on the 4.2.2 chain but has moved the device onto a stable 4.3 ROM by himself.
Not criticizing here just curious.
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This project appears to have been abandoned. At least in terms of the TF101. Not a big deal. timduru has 4.3 fully working on the TF.
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just lou said:
This project appears to have been abandoned. At least in terms of the TF101. Not a big deal. timduru has 4.3 fully working on the TF.
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Agreed. It seems like some of us saw this coming...
frederuco said:
Agreed. It seems like some of us saw this coming...
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Yeah fx moved on a while ago in not sure why he comes back fur a tease then leaves again
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Yeah fx moved on a while ago in not sure why he comes back fur a tease then leaves again
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I don't know either. He abandoned all his TF projects, then comes back only to tease a new project that never materialized.
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just lou said:
I don't know either. He abandoned all his TF projects, then comes back only to tease a new project that never materialized.
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Yeah .. I teased 1 project on accident just because I ended up not having time to fully complete it (PAC)
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Well, they did quite a bit at one point or another for our tablets, and it was based on their own time and interest, so I'm not slamming them for moving on to other things, although I am a bit disappointed that they would make the noise of supporting it and nearly completely ignoring it (they did put out a test build).
And I agree, Timduru's builds have been phenominal, I just hope he was able to enjoy his vacation since he's been back, the boy seems to be working like a dog....er a meercat.
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Well, they did quite a bit at one point or another for our tablets, and it was based on their own time and interest, so I'm not slamming them for moving on to other things, although I am a bit disappointed that they would make the noise of supporting it and nearly completely ignoring it (they did put out a test build).
And I agree, Timduru's builds have been phenominal, I just hope he was able to enjoy his vacation since he's been back, the boy seems to be working like a dog....er a meercat.
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I do agree with you 100% .. In not slamming them or "bashing" them at all
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I do agree with you 100% .. In not slamming them or "bashing" them at all
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They did good things but it would have been nice to at least say they were not going to continue. Checking that crazy change log has been a pain.
We have to thank Tim for the work but I don't think he will be able too keep it up alone he will burn out trying. He is a great guy.
Which is timdru's most recent stable Rom ,um currently using team eos b202 with kat kernel and it's rock solid and would only change if I can get similar on 4.3,
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