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The "Ice Cream Sandwich Desire Z waiting" thread

Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?

It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.

You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs

I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...

I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.

I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
ashwinmudigonda said:
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.

Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!

According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.

Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today

I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.​
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?

killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.

dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.

Aosp Ics will Devs bring for DHD

Hi guys, while i love my Sense3 DHD, i was wondering when the ICS AOSP source drops will anybody here make a port of ICS for our DHD's?
(I know i proberly should sell my SGS and get a nexus-s hehehe)

If the source drops in full, then I would expect the Cyanogen team to make and release ICS, probably under the name (CyanogenMod 8). This would/ usually is ported to a large list of devices (Desire HD included).

a33a said:
If the source drops in full, then I would expect the Cyanogen team to make and release ICS, probably under the name (CyanogenMod 8). This would/ usually is ported to a large list of devices (Desire HD included).
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Cyanogen already stated it will be CM9 as 8 was meant for honeycomb.

But it will take a long time :-( i think we have to wait 3 - 4 month ...
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glad that CM team is there ,if no dev's bring it to us will still have cm,and yes its cm9

drolles said:
But it will take a long time :-( i think we have to wait 3 - 4 month ...
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Yes your most likely right. As they said the source would be released with the release of the first device running it. So when in the first ICS device gonna be release? I know everyone is excited about this. Hell I am. But please understand that when rushed you end up with a product that has bugs and huge issues. Not to mention that HTC is not the first or the last group that has to have time with it before it can be released. Once you toss in the carriers, well we know how that goes lol.

i am wondering whether dhd will get a official ICS from HTC.

zelendel said:
Yes your most likely right. As they said the source would be released with the release of the first device running it. So when in the first ICS device gonna be release? I know everyone is excited about this. Hell I am. But please understand that when rushed you end up with a product that has bugs and huge issues. Not to mention that HTC is not the first or the last group that has to have time with it before it can be released. Once you toss in the carriers, well we know how that goes lol.
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the device is going to be released in the first week or so of november which mean (or i think) a week or two after that ICS source will be released.

cncsc said:
i am wondering whether dhd will get a official ICS from HTC.
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I would expect so, given the specifications of the DHD. HTC have mentioned releasing ICS for older phones. I guess it's the mid-range phones that won't be getting ICS.
All the same, the official release will come out much later than the cooked ROMs - and I know which one I'd prefer

Correct me if I am wrong,but if HTC updates its latest models/or if their newest mobile has ICS then wont it be easy to port it to DHD?|
I know it wont be a vanilla version then,but still.

Aamir.Badat said:
the device is going to be released in the first week or so of november which mean (or i think) a week or two after that ICS source will be released.
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And CM7 RC1 came out about 2 weeks after the Gingerbread source code was released!

Wow....ICS is almost there....

ColorCodePurple said:
Correct me if I am wrong,but if HTC updates its latest models/or if their newest mobile has ICS then wont it be easy to port it to DHD?|
I know it wont be a vanilla version then,but still.
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If the hardware of the handsets is the same, yes. If not, no.

We have uploaded a small YouTube clip which is showing how the android 4 port is looking at the moment: ICS DHD

Nearly there...
LorD ClockaN has just fixed Hardware acceleration!!! It is so much quicker now... It won't let me post in the source port thread (need 10 posts first)!!! Another day or so and it will be fully usable I reckon...
Check it out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343361&page=224

It's 2d HW acceleration not 3D so the Rom is fast but 3d apps like the ics gallery google maps fc..
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Aamir.Badat said:
It's 2d HW acceleration not 3D so the Rom is fast but 3d apps like the ics gallery google maps fc..
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Im working on hw acceleration behind the scene , made progress

2D and 3D HW acc are working, All we need for a daily is video, and camera to be fixed, then some small bugs

I see you devs made some progress
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2D HW and 3D HW accel. is only a hack but it is REALLY smooth and fast.

Any idea how CM9 is going on?

Hey!
I've been following the three ICS ports for the Desire Z in the Development Section for a while now, and am running the Desire S port - runs very smoothly btw - but was wondering: is there a place such as XDA's dev threads for CM9 somewhere in the realms of the interwebs?
Or is all the CM9 dev talk done via IRC/Tapatalk/etc. ?

As far as I'm aware they keep a pretty tight lid on their development progress and their official statements are on some kind of quarterly release schedule
But you can keep somehow up-to-date by following some of the devs on twitter or g+.
Edit: I kind of wander here often: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,statuspen,n,z To be honest most of what I see is beyond of what I understand, but it's nice to see work is being done and where the focus seems to be.

Should be a couple months before everything is good to go, but it will be awesome!

Engadget and many others posted good chances of cm9 being dropped sometime in september.
Can't wait myself after checking out the beta stuff here
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Spastic909 said:
Engadget and many others posted good chances of cm9 being dropped sometime in september.
Can't wait myself after checking out the beta stuff here
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September? Damn, that's my next upgrade already xD

ohshootrawr said:
September? Damn, that's my next upgrade already xD
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I think he meant December. No way CM9 is going to take a year to develop!

CM10 would likely be out by then...

Mostly cm10 will be jelly bean
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FYI: +Chris Soyars posted an update on the state of cm7/cm9 nightlies.
Apparently they changed their minds, there will be no more cm7 nightlies. When the nightlies start up again, they will be cm9.

From cyanogenmod.com:
"The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos."
Some one correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the chip we have is the MSM7230. That seems to fit the name for 7X30. Makes me think we are going to be in the first batch of devices to have CM9. I don't know much about chip sets, or their naming conventions, but I'm excited either way.

kierren said:
From cyanogenmod.com:
"The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos."
Some one correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the chip we have is the MSM7230. That seems to fit the name for 7X30. Makes me think we are going to be in the first batch of devices to have CM9. I don't know much about chip sets, or their naming conventions, but I'm excited either way.
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I've read something along those lines on these forums a few weeks ago. It seems pretty feasible. I'd say that the Desire Z is fully worthy of Cyanogen Team's love

I wonder if steve still uses his G2 xD know he was quite glad with it but not sure what he is useing lately

Progress on CM9 [February 7th, 2012]

It’s been awhile since the last update and I just wanted to let everyone know about our progress with CM9. As I mentioned in the previous update, Android 4.0 contains many internal changes that require updated graphics drivers. Unfortunately, these drivers are almost always closed-source and don’t appear until a device or devkit is released with them. For many devices, our hands are tied. Some very clever workarounds have gone into CM9, but we’re still blocked on some subsystems like the camera.
Since Android 4.0 is such a major change from 2.3, we started with a fresh codebase from Google and have been forward-porting features from CM7 with an eye on design and better integration. This is a somewhat time-consuming process, but it allows us to rethink everything. We’ve eliminated the CMParts app, instead choosing to add our custom features directly into the main settings. We are also taking a “just works” approach when it comes to configuration- CM7 had too many options that just weren’t widely used. We hope to achieve a good balance between tweakability and a great out-of-the-box experience. I want your phone or tablet to feel like it should have come with CM9.
Currently, you can compile CM9 for a small number of devices- notably the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Wi-Fi and T-Mobile versions), the HP Touchpad and Motorola Xoom. The next devices to show up will likely be a whole array of Samsung phones (Exynos chipset), with devices based on the Qualcomm MSM8660 and 7×30 chipsets to follow. It’s still unclear if we can provide support for the QSD8x50 family of devices (Nexus One, HTC Evo, etc), but the answer almost always turns out to be “yes” for these kinds of things.
As our hardware support improves, I’ll keep this blog updated. As much as we’d like to stay ahead of the manufacturers, it may be a tie this time Thanks for the continued support, and please consider dropping us a buck or two using the link at the bottom of the page if you enjoy CyanogenMod.
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Wasn't cm9 support for wildfire dropped ? I heard Jacob moved to another device ...
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Deltatiger said:
Wasn't cm9 support for wildfire dropped ? I heard Jacob moved to another device ...
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It was. He did.
Arco will be providing CM9 for us, but his main device is the Samsung Galaxy W.

Sweet. If some1 ports ICS to Wildfire I can slap it on my sisters phone. Probably going to work better than stock sense:0
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naruvam said:
Sweet. If some1 ports ICS to Wildfire I can slap it on my sisters phone. Probably going to work better than stock sense:0
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Put a custom sense Rom on it, or even gb, there a million times better than stock + it will be a looooonnnnggggggg time before Ics is fully functioning........ if ever!
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nejc121 said:
It was. He did.
Arco will be providing CM9 for us, but his main device is the Samsung Galaxy W.
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Arco said it won't be Official though.

LucidSomnia said:
Arco said it won't be Official though.
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If the official support will be dropped, of course it won't be official

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Put a custom sense Rom on it, or even gb, there a million times better than stock + it will be a looooonnnnggggggg time before Ics is fully functioning........ if ever!
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Lack of GPU a Heavy Loss
As we don't have a GPU in Wildfire, we won't be able to enjoy the animation and effects in ICS.
Gingerbread Animation stumbles often in CM7.1. If the wildy was equipped with a GPU, it would definitely be getting ICS officially.... FYI, HTC Wildfire @ buzz is the 7th device in most installation according to CM stats.
Atleast I'm happy with it for 2 years now... Better than My Girlfriend... LOL..

Just tried out the ICS by ErwinP and i found it quiet good. OC'ed to 652MHz and it was a bit smooth. The lack of GPU showed when the screen became slow when coming out of the app drawer.
Live wallpapers didn't work at all like the camera. But the rest was smooth. Wifi , calls , sms , images etc.
Give it a time and it may become stable on wildfire.

anoopch said:
Atleast I'm happy with it for 2 years now... Better than My Girlfriend... LOL..
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Rofl m8, as long as you are happy enough..!
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Just tried out the ICS by ErwinP and i found it quiet good. OC'ed to 652MHz and it was a bit smooth. The lack of GPU showed when the screen became slow when coming out of the app drawer.
Live wallpapers didn't work at all like the camera. But the rest was smooth. Wifi , calls , sms , images etc.
Give it a time and it may become stable on wildfire.
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Well as the sourcecode has been taken to be developed from the beginning, I guess we can still hope for something much better. But that won't be soon for sure.
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I'm using cm 9 on my wildfire . Camera still don't work I'm oc to 729mhz and its smooth enough to use as a daily rom .
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Well as the sourcecode has been taken to be developed from the beginning, I guess we can still hope for something much better. But that won't be soon for sure.
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My Wildfire is just about a year old. Im expecting it to last for atleast 2. So i got lots of time. Once i finish with my school im gonna learn some stuff and help out with the ROM if i can.

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My Wildfire is just about a year old. Im expecting it to last for atleast 2. So i got lots of time. Once i finish with my school im gonna learn some stuff and help out with the ROM if i can.
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That's good.

Motorola: If ICS won't make our device better, we won't update to it

From Motorola's official blog
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You’re not alone. Good thing we’ve got a page for that. You can get the latest software upgrade news on our refreshed page.
You may be wondering why all devices aren’t being upgraded to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Here’s the deal. We work very closely with Google and cell phone carriers for every software update. And, obviously we want the new release to improve our devices. If we determine that can’t be done—well then, we’re not able to upgrade that particular device.
Happy upgrading!
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.

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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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You didn't bought a lapdock recently at iandroid ?
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Moonshield said:
Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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me too I won't install motorola's buggy update I like cm9
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It will be Jelly Bean by the time they release ICS.

Just motobabling to excuse their poor post-sale support.

Only sthing stopping me from using CM8 as a daily, is the camera issues. Video FC is still an issue i hear.

Moonshield said:
Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Well the deal for them is that XDA Developpers is actually some kind of post-sale support for most of their products... And yes, they could release the drivers so the developpers can make better ROMs, I'm currently waiting for an update to install a custom Blur ICS ROM that could support my Lapdock, I'm not as angry as you but I only own the phone since 2 months, and it saved me from Windows Mobile's nightmare, also I'm waiting for a TRUE GPU driver for ICS (Some 2D apps just don't work). I totally agree with you Motorola sucks on this point.

They should admit they're not able to develop as much as jokersax

Me too. I wont updating when they release the official update. I prefer to wait for CM9.
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Lol, but there still will be hundreds of newbs who will update to it and get wonders crappy service and bricks...

That's a good thing.. as long as they come here and tell us about it lol
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.

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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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Probably the same reason the the Bravo is only 2.2.1 and the Defy is 2.2.2 and Defy+ is 2.3.6. Oh and they both have 512mb of ram, same processor, and the biggest difference between the three is the camera module. Should I mention that the Droid2, DroidX, Cliq2, Milestone2, Bravo, Defy, and Defy+ are all almost the same phones with different camera modules, different radios, minor differences, and some happen to have a hw keyboard? They can all boot each others custom roms with some tweaking.
Its so we'll buy newer, better phones with updated systems.
And it is enough ram. My Bravo runs CM9 pretty damn smooth with almost no issues other than some flash problems. Damn locked bootloaders.

I'm putting the blame on MotoBlur. If the Nexus S can handle ICS, then the Atrix most certainly can...
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.

yeahmann said:
The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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Wait really.. That being true, ill go on the assumption that it is without googling it because I've no reason to doubt you, you're totally right. Unless google sees potential in this blur thing, and since they have their own social network they probably don't. But isn't the whole point of blur social integration? What's googles solution to that or do they feel its a non issue?
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yeahmann said:
The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development.
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Blur will go away now Microsoft has reamed Motorola in court over it. Might take some time, but I don't see Google/Moto paying Microsoft anything in the long term to keep using it in the US.

Aww, but I liked the social parts of Blur! I also hated everything else about it. Don't suggest any third-party widgets, though.

this is a joke, even my htc tattoo is running on ics which has only 256 mb ram and 512 mb rom