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HTC Desire HD Android 2.3 Update

When???
Have you already talked about it with HTC?

ppaajjaa said:
When???
Have you already talked about it with HTC?
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Ok you need to breathe buddy, it's just been announced it will most probably take a month before it will be available on HTC as they need to incorporate Sense to it.

well if you recall the desire made the jump from 2.1 to 2.2 pretty soon after the 2.2 announcement, considering the DHD is the new flagship phone id imagine a very similar situation if not there is always custom roms

Wonder if cyanogen will publish it before htc that will be sweet
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The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.

andyharney said:
If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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+1 me too

andyharney said:
The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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me 2 well .. not again ... but just donate

It's only been released for developers apparently.
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Aamir.Badat said:
It's only been released for developers apparently.
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from what i understand, the actual rom hasnt been released, just the sdk for app developers - but i might be wrong

panyan said:
from what i understand, the actual rom hasnt been released, just the sdk for app developers - but i might be wrong
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dont you compile the roms from the sdk ?, pretty sure all the android files are available in the sdk you just need to create a rom from them. (i think)

noobdeagle said:
dont you compile the roms from the sdk ?, pretty sure all the android files are available in the sdk you just need to create a rom from them. (i think)
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Nope, the roms can't be made until the source code is released or another device gets it to be ported over.
Roms can be made from the sdk but don't turn out very well to say the least.

I expect an announcement soon from HTC, i doubt they will let their flagship higher specs phone fall short against their direct competitor, classic desire was the first device to get froyo after the nexus

I'm betting on it being out around Christmas time,
Probably in 2 weeks we'll start to get them trickling out...

I hope that dhd will get it as soon as possible, but wouldn't be surprised if Samsung s get's it first considering cooperation of Google with them on new G phone.

andyharney said:
The DHD will most likely be the first HTC handset to receive the update. However, how long this takes is anyone's guess. Then your carrier will modify the update, unless of course you got a stock unbranded DHD.
My money is on Cyanogen, real money. If CM releases 2.3 before HTC I'll donate again.
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+1
Me too. I haven't donated yet if this happens ill be sending beer money to the boys for sure
I only started using CM last-night and i am already in-love

kermez said:
I hope that dhd will get it as soon as possible, but wouldn't be surprised if Samsung s get's it first considering cooperation of Google with them on new G phone.
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Maybe... But then again, I doubt google let samsung anywhere near the software for the nexus s. At least, I sure wouldn't after the galaxy's "interesting" software decisions.

hamdir said:
I expect an announcement soon from HTC, i doubt they will let their flagship higher specs phone fall short against their direct competitor, classic desire was the first device to get froyo after the nexus
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Unfortunately the N1 was pretty much the same as the Desire. And was built by HTC. Now the situation is a little bit different having Google cooperating with the plastic-toy manufacturer . Then again I doubt Galaxy S will get 2.3 sooner than the DHD, because they got to 2.2 about a month ago.

tkolev said:
Unfortunately the N1 was pretty much the same as the Desire. And was built by HTC. Now the situation is a little bit different having Google cooperating with the plastic-toy manufacturer . Then again I doubt Galaxy S will get 2.3 sooner than the DHD, because they got to 2.2 about a month ago.
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Plus in all fairness we all kno that Samsung products are for females... lol DHd's are a man thing
Lol meh
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I'm not that fussed on gingerbread tbh. I have had sense since the hero but have tried many vanilla roms. Now you can change "skins" on the dhd and with not a huge increase in an already blistering device for me its not that important?
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anything new about Android 2.3 on the Desire HD?

The "Ice Cream Sandwich Desire Z waiting" thread

Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?

It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.

You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs

I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...

I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.

I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
ashwinmudigonda said:
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.

Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!

According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.

Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.

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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today

I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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riahc3 said:
Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.​
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?

killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.

dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.

Progress on CM9 [February 7th, 2012]

It’s been awhile since the last update and I just wanted to let everyone know about our progress with CM9. As I mentioned in the previous update, Android 4.0 contains many internal changes that require updated graphics drivers. Unfortunately, these drivers are almost always closed-source and don’t appear until a device or devkit is released with them. For many devices, our hands are tied. Some very clever workarounds have gone into CM9, but we’re still blocked on some subsystems like the camera.
Since Android 4.0 is such a major change from 2.3, we started with a fresh codebase from Google and have been forward-porting features from CM7 with an eye on design and better integration. This is a somewhat time-consuming process, but it allows us to rethink everything. We’ve eliminated the CMParts app, instead choosing to add our custom features directly into the main settings. We are also taking a “just works” approach when it comes to configuration- CM7 had too many options that just weren’t widely used. We hope to achieve a good balance between tweakability and a great out-of-the-box experience. I want your phone or tablet to feel like it should have come with CM9.
Currently, you can compile CM9 for a small number of devices- notably the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Wi-Fi and T-Mobile versions), the HP Touchpad and Motorola Xoom. The next devices to show up will likely be a whole array of Samsung phones (Exynos chipset), with devices based on the Qualcomm MSM8660 and 7×30 chipsets to follow. It’s still unclear if we can provide support for the QSD8x50 family of devices (Nexus One, HTC Evo, etc), but the answer almost always turns out to be “yes” for these kinds of things.
As our hardware support improves, I’ll keep this blog updated. As much as we’d like to stay ahead of the manufacturers, it may be a tie this time Thanks for the continued support, and please consider dropping us a buck or two using the link at the bottom of the page if you enjoy CyanogenMod.
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Wasn't cm9 support for wildfire dropped ? I heard Jacob moved to another device ...
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Deltatiger said:
Wasn't cm9 support for wildfire dropped ? I heard Jacob moved to another device ...
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It was. He did.
Arco will be providing CM9 for us, but his main device is the Samsung Galaxy W.

Sweet. If some1 ports ICS to Wildfire I can slap it on my sisters phone. Probably going to work better than stock sense:0
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naruvam said:
Sweet. If some1 ports ICS to Wildfire I can slap it on my sisters phone. Probably going to work better than stock sense:0
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Put a custom sense Rom on it, or even gb, there a million times better than stock + it will be a looooonnnnggggggg time before Ics is fully functioning........ if ever!
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nejc121 said:
It was. He did.
Arco will be providing CM9 for us, but his main device is the Samsung Galaxy W.
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Arco said it won't be Official though.

LucidSomnia said:
Arco said it won't be Official though.
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If the official support will be dropped, of course it won't be official

Scratch0805 said:
Put a custom sense Rom on it, or even gb, there a million times better than stock + it will be a looooonnnnggggggg time before Ics is fully functioning........ if ever!
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/agree
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Lack of GPU a Heavy Loss
As we don't have a GPU in Wildfire, we won't be able to enjoy the animation and effects in ICS.
Gingerbread Animation stumbles often in CM7.1. If the wildy was equipped with a GPU, it would definitely be getting ICS officially.... FYI, HTC Wildfire @ buzz is the 7th device in most installation according to CM stats.
Atleast I'm happy with it for 2 years now... Better than My Girlfriend... LOL..

Just tried out the ICS by ErwinP and i found it quiet good. OC'ed to 652MHz and it was a bit smooth. The lack of GPU showed when the screen became slow when coming out of the app drawer.
Live wallpapers didn't work at all like the camera. But the rest was smooth. Wifi , calls , sms , images etc.
Give it a time and it may become stable on wildfire.

anoopch said:
Atleast I'm happy with it for 2 years now... Better than My Girlfriend... LOL..
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Rofl m8, as long as you are happy enough..!
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Deltatiger said:
Just tried out the ICS by ErwinP and i found it quiet good. OC'ed to 652MHz and it was a bit smooth. The lack of GPU showed when the screen became slow when coming out of the app drawer.
Live wallpapers didn't work at all like the camera. But the rest was smooth. Wifi , calls , sms , images etc.
Give it a time and it may become stable on wildfire.
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Well as the sourcecode has been taken to be developed from the beginning, I guess we can still hope for something much better. But that won't be soon for sure.
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I'm using cm 9 on my wildfire . Camera still don't work I'm oc to 729mhz and its smooth enough to use as a daily rom .
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LucidSomnia said:
Well as the sourcecode has been taken to be developed from the beginning, I guess we can still hope for something much better. But that won't be soon for sure.
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My Wildfire is just about a year old. Im expecting it to last for atleast 2. So i got lots of time. Once i finish with my school im gonna learn some stuff and help out with the ROM if i can.

Because
Deltatiger said:
My Wildfire is just about a year old. Im expecting it to last for atleast 2. So i got lots of time. Once i finish with my school im gonna learn some stuff and help out with the ROM if i can.
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That's good.

HTC Official ICS Update List, No Desire Z

http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z

Another thread about a petition?

no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....

Desire hd is getting it so we are fine.
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KyraOfFire said:
no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....
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Then i misunderstood it. But to get back at a quote you say in your op. HTC never said that the DZ wont be getting the upgrade, there is always a chance of getting it. Unless you got source on that.
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!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here

jijus said:
!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here
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Dude that link is already in this thread and plenty others
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just signed it. come on people there should be more of us?? shouldn't there???

KyraOfFire said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Thats the same list from months ago nothing changed, HTC said this is the 'first' list of devices rolling out there will Be ANOTHER!

KyraOfFire said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Dude calm down! it's just the first wave. I'm pretty sure HTC going to update our device later on. if not we still have CM9, Virtuous.. ect.

I think we will get it in the second wave imo
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I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.

crestofawave said:
I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.
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Those devices are in the first wave, no second wave has been announced.

I hope we get an update soon.
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.

Remember, HTC has never said that they've finalized the list of devices to be upgraded. We still might get it, we may not. Besides, enough phones will be upgraded to give us a 100% working ICS rom anyway from CyanogenMod and others.
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charisk123 said:
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.
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Yeah, well, our phones are pretty old, two years now. Most companies rather just spend their money pushing their new line of phones instead. I use the Andromadus ROM and it works very well, running ICS 4.0.3

From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No

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From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No
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You don't need to use CyanogenMod 9 to have ICS. And HTC Vision is listed with 512MB RAM anyways.

I am about to give up on cm9 and go backwards. I want a 1.6 super d rom from my g1 on my g2. Hell I might go back to eclair if I could, just to flash something different. ...
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It is possible to port old roms but really... maybe I'm in the minority but there are so many roms to choose from on the g2 why are so many people hung up on needing a solid ics build. I get it the latest is the greatest but what more are you really going to get out of it? Plenty of amazing aosp, cyanogen based and sense roms out here that work amazing, how can anyone be so unsatisfied to want to go back to a donut rom?
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CM9 FlowChart

For all Vision/G2 users that are unsure or doubting that we'll get ICS on our devices this should EASE YOUR MIND!

source for those wondering: https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/XzbMYgotkmy
also, xda is a pretty demanding crowd; i don't know if 50% certainty will ease their minds

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/progress-on-cm9
According to that post, the MSM7x30 chip is in their scope of support, so it's more likely than just 50%.

It's 75% according to comments. Even if there is no official support, there are always resourceful developers. I've been using CM7 on my Defy for a long time before official support came.

By the way, that flowchart was a semi-joke. It's not meant to be totally definitive, but it does give an idea as to CM9 main requirements - i.e. 512MB RAM and an ICS official release on a device with the same chipset.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

It probably helps that we already have some fairly successful ICS builds on our devices. I've been running Andromadus v13 for a little while and it works really well. There are just a few things that need to be worked on (like the camera and gps lock). But for normal tasks, it runs really smoothly.

Yep, if no official CM9 ever comes Andromadus should be able to last me until my next phone.

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Yep, if no official CM9 ever comes Andromadus should be able to last me until my next phone.
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Agree, I never used the official CM (because of some personal opinions about them) and Icecream JIBwich based on Andromadus has been a fantastic G2 ICS ROM for me

I would personally break some **** if I couldn't get a official cm build. Just my reaction....
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i hope the qualcomm binary release helps fill the gap to get this device into the get.cm party.
if not... that sucks because andromedus roms are not sufficient for me unless i quit my job and no longer need to rely on dependable sync. otherwise its constant babysitting too many things.
Just wish i could know the answer now because im ready to ditch this device and move on to the next (but dont want to.. its a great gingerbread phone)
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androidcues said:
i hope the qualcomm binary release helps fill the gap to get this device into the get.cm party.
if not... that sucks because andromedus roms are not sufficient for me unless i quit my job and no longer need to rely on dependable sync. otherwise its constant babysitting too many things.
Just wish i could know the answer now because im ready to ditch this device and move on to the next (but dont want to.. its a great gingerbread phone)
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may I ask which binary release? Did they release anything related to the camera?

KyraOfFire said:
may I ask which binary release? Did they release anything related to the camera?
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No camera stuff, they released Adreno 2xx GPU drivers for ICS.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

tarroyo said:
For all Vision/G2 users that are unsure or doubting that we'll get ICS on our devices this should EASE YOUR MIND!
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Does this mean the Razr has a 75% chance of getting CM9. Am I understanding this right?