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Prospects for Jelly Bean on the Xoom?

So...today Jelly Bean was accidentally outed on the Google Play Store as Android 4.1. If you added a Galaxy Nexus to your cart, the line item read "Soon to be the first phone with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean"
Obviously we are all expecting the new Nexus tablet to be unveiled at Google I/O. With that in mind, adding to it the fact that the VZW Xoom will reach 18 months in August and the WiFi Xoom in October, what say ye? Do we stand a chance of getting Jelly Bean on the Xoom?
I personally say yes since JB is just a point release. I'm sure WiFi will get it first followed by VZW a month or two later. If the Xoom gets JB however, I would be shocked if it received the next major release (5.0).
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Unless Google changes something dramatically like they did from Gingerbread/honeycomb to ICS, I would think the community will be able to get it running quite easily. However, I'm doubting anything farther than 4.1 will be official.
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Hopefully, havent had an update for my xoom in a long time!
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I think the chances of officialness is fairly decent, and even still, it'll be open source and the Xoom specs are still decent, it won't be hard to get it running. I even think the the next update could be official. HTC still give official updates the the Desire HD (Inspire 4G I think) and that's over 2 years old but still a decent device
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Hopefully this Xoom will be updated to jellybean should be easy since this device is stock ICS.

Motorola hasn't yet updated to ICS and you ask for Jelly Bean?????
EMEA Wifi + 3g Xoom haven't yet got ICS.
They will need at least two years.
What a mistake buying a product from usa manufacturer......never ever again.....

Xoom WIFI hopefully will be updated. It has received updates in a timely matter. If not the community will address the update.

I'm talking about the US version, where the Xoom runs stock ICS and gets updates straight from Google. The international versions have Motorola customizations and obviously, updates come from Motorola rather than Google. You guys are probably screwed.
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Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
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1:11 p.m.: Jelly Bean will be available to the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S and Motorola Xoom starting in mid July.
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http://content.usatoday.com/communi...log-googles-io-keynote-address/1#.T-s_afXud8E

More importantly, the Jelly Bean SDK is available today.

So happen I still have my xoom... Jelly is coming in July... I can't wait....

Who cares about what Motorola does? We have some awesome developers who fixed ICS to us european users.

Forget ICS! Jelly Bean is looking very impressive! Love the offline Voice to Text function. And the Voice Google Search is really nice.
Google+ for tablets today and Jelly Bean in a few weeks. Exciting day for my Xoom.

SamXp said:
Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
Edit: Yep
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...log-googles-io-keynote-address/1#.T-s_afXud8E
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Yeah, gizmodo reported the same thing: http://gizmodo.com/5921713/android-jelly-beans-new-features

So, one thing that didn't seem clear... the Nexus 7 is obviously designed to be held like a phone (portrait mode)... so the decision to still have it default to a tablet like interface in apps (larger screen) yet still retain the phone like UI layout makes sense... But what about for landscape style 10 inch tablets like the Xoom? Are we going to see the honeycomb like interface disappear and be replaced with the jelly bean launcher at the bottom / notification bar at the top?

That would be a mistake. I use the Xoom with almost entirely widgets. The large screen is conducive to quickly scanning content in widgets. Mail, News Reader, Calender, etc. without even opening the app.
But that new Google+ for tablets is definitely landscape mode.

I think it would be a mistake too... but it seems they are trying to unify the interface between the two even more... I hope not...

on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.

ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Tell that to Director of Product Managment, Hugo Barra. He said it.

ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Clearly you don't get it. The original Xoom is a Google Experience Device in the USA. It's like a Nexus tablet without carrying the Nexus name. It runs stock Android and updates come from Google. The Xoom 2 is NOT a Google Experience device, therefore it runs a customized firmware done by Motorola and updated by Motorola.
You're comparing apples to trucks.
The U.S. WiFi-only and Verizon 3/4G Xoom models will get Jelly Bean. As for international Xooms, who knows. The Xoom 2 isn't part of this discussion.

Will Samsung skip ICS and give us JB straight?

I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....

I hope so :laugh:

Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.

Careful gents its the hope that kills you. ;-)
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i wondered how you guys still trust and make hopes with this company!!
Samsung will not give you anything sir, it is just taking from you. don't kill your self by waiting the mirage

chrisrotolo said:
Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.
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3 months according to google, but if anything is to arrive with Jellybean it will be the Note 2 or possibly a nexus successor.

Doubt it, they have announced ICS to be released between July and August, so why would they turn sround and decide to give us JB.
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The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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furius said:
The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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No disrespect but i think he was asking about stock JB not a modified ROM built from ICS/JB , not a lot of us are instered in mofied ROMS

Is that a trick question? Lets get ICS first
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Well there's another dev working at the tab that I know of, Sk806.
So Locera, SK806, that's two... Still not much but value both of them.
We should be happy we get ICS, it will just make us think we got a new device,
and the step to JB won't be that hard for the devs then.. I guess..I hope.. I don't care I want ICS now please, this HC feels sluggish.

ZhenMing said:
I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....
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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Ours has a bigger better screen ,and waaay thinner... sold! :highfive:

Skip ics. I'm running jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and I can say unequivocally that it's hands down better. I can't believe the difference.
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Nope, sadly. I'd like to keep this tab for awhile longer and it would be nice if Samsung showed up Apple and keeps updating it (and other recent Galaxy devices) for at least one more version. But, nah. Maybe it will be easier for someone to port 4.1 when the 4.0 source eventually gets out?
But if not...**** it, who cares. A few interface tweaks and some nice features, but the 7.7 will still be highly usable with ICS, I would say.

Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Unless of course he is traveling salesman. Travel with Nexus 7 is somewhat restricted to about 100 meters.

I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.

Gaugerer said:
I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.
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Jelly Belly (yes i ment to say belly and not bean) does not need to have 2 gb of RAM. I hope ICS helps out the 7.7 but i also ordered a nexus 7 to see what it can offer for the price.

wintermute000 said:
Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs
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I was thinking the same thing. And hoping it is indeed the case.

Jelly bean coming soon to the gs3?

So according to the samsung web page it states that jelly bean is coming soon the the gs3. Did anyone else notice this? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...71336618.59771.253235488046600&type=1&theater

btw let me note im not sure how legit the page is but if it is in fact true then this is some great and exciting news =)

Samsung has been showing it's intent to make their updates faster...what will the unified carrier hardware and adding in 2 gigs of RAM for futureproofing.

I hope so...someone has said Q3 2012...we'll see

Gadgetz said:
I hope so...someone has said Q3 2012...we'll see
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I heard Q4 2012
source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28093441
:highfive:

I heard q3 also, just scuttlebutt though. Can't wait for JB, its going to be phenomenal on the sgs3.
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Thought about selling my gs3 to get the gnex. Then I saw google also released a PDK for JB. I figured it would shorten the wait for Sammy to give us JB.
And I thought, if jellybean is that nice on the gnex, it's gonna be bananas on this phone.
Besides, I'm loving everything about this phone and I think I'll get a nexus 7 for my jellybean fix.
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If the next Nexus phone is coming from Motorola Mobility Samsung will be sure to get JB into the GS3 by then to attract future customers.

I saw Q3 after JB announcement watching IO. Who knows when... but I don't think Samsung is waiting around to release it on their flagship phone.
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/06/28/android-4-1-or-a-value-pack/

vinuneuro said:
If the next Nexus phone is coming from Motorola Mobility Samsung will be sure to get JB into the GS3 by then to attract future customers.
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I was floored when I heard Moto was releasing the next Nexus phone. I'll never buy another Moto phone

Even if it is Q3, that starts tomorrow and only lasts through September. I think I can suffer through 3 or so months of ICS ;-) And besides... if they're already working on JB I think we'll probably have leaked builds within a week of the device's actual release. Exciting times ahead...
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Gadgetz said:
I was floored when I heard Moto was releasing the next Nexus phone. I'll never buy another Moto phone
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That will stir up the hopeful's that still think MOTO will unlock their bootloader's lol. I agree though. This will be my last MOTO. Sad, as I love the physical build quality. Takes a serious beating and keeps on ticking.
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Oh good, because I was thinking that I really needed something to slow my sammy down. It's just too smooth and fast right now.

Sniper_5 said:
That will stir up the hopeful's that still think MOTO will unlock their bootloader's lol. I agree though. This will be my last MOTO. Sad, as I love the physical build quality. Takes a serious beating and keeps on ticking.
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I was once one of them, had to learn the hard way.

I'm not sure i care about when samsung pushes the JB update to us
i just want pure google JB, damnit this phone will be perfect with pure jb

Well coming soon... hopefully that means SOON. Except if their is really no Flash support or no one can get it to work then forget it. I use Full sites not the craptastic mobile ones.

I really hope Samsung doesn't remove the Google Now search feature from JB (in order to keep it from "competing" with S Voice). One of the few things that bugs me about the TouchWiz implementation is how they remove the stock Android keyboard, in favor of the Samsung Keypad... which is a little ominous. Of course, you can just install the "stock" kb from the Market (if those "ports" are really as good as the stock versions; I'm using the "ICS kb" now on my Vibrant, and it seems pretty good, but haven't spent enough time with the stock kb to judge if it's the same)... I doubt Google Now will be made available the same way!

pavvy said:
I really hope Samsung doesn't remove the Google Now search feature from JB (in order to keep it from "competing" with S Voice). One of the few things that bugs me about the TouchWiz implementation is how they remove the stock Android keyboard, in favor of the Samsung Keypad... which is a little ominous. Of course, you can just install the "stock" kb from the Market (if those "ports" are really as good as the stock versions; I'm using the "ICS kb" now on my Vibrant, and it seems pretty good, but haven't spent enough time with the stock kb to judge if it's the same)... I doubt Google Now will be made available the same way!
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Yeah I was thinking about that too, but Google search is in the phone already so I doubt they removed it, what I really want is to jelly bean coded right with the new samsung, I can't believe I'm actually liking touchwiz tho, if they would let us customize the notifications toggle would be amazing
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yeah, that site does not look legit.
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Docavelli said:
Thought about selling my gs3 to get the gnex. Then I saw google also released a PDK for JB. I figured it would shorten the wait for Sammy to give us JB.
And I thought, if jellybean is that nice on the gnex, it's gonna be bananas on this phone.
Besides, I'm loving everything about this phone and I think I'll get a nexus 7 for my jellybean fix.
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Already pre-ordered my Nexus 7. Can't wait for it to be shipped.

Google Mailed It In with the Xoom's JB Update

I've been running the leaked VZW Xoom JRO03H ROM that they still haven't released. As far as I can tell, this ROM is identical to the WiFi-only ROM except that it has 3/4G enabled. The ROM is rock solid, runs great, it's fast, etc...but I can't help but feel that Google totally mailed it in with this ROM, at least from an visual standponit.
1. Why would they leave the ICS boot animation in place? I get that the stock Jelly Bean boot animation is the multi-colored X representing the Nexus branding, which obviously wouldn't fit for the Xoom (even though it's a Nexus in all but name). That said, there was a cool alternate boot animation that shipped on the JFN53N build on the Nexus 7 tablets given away at I/O 2012. They could have easily used that and it would have fit fine for the Xoom since it made no reference visually to the Nexus branding whatsoever.
2. They didn't provide the stock Jelly Bean wallpapers found on the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and Nexus 7. Instead they just left the ICS wallpapers in place and changed the default one from the rainbow colored design to the green leaf design. Would it have really been that hard to just put the stock JB wallpapers into the launcher APK?
3. The lack of the Sound Search widget. What would possess them to leave that out? Again, if they can include it on the Nexus S (which is older than the Xoom), why can't they include it on the Xoom? The Nexus 7 even ships with a version of the widget that is resizable. Again, this is two files in the /system folder. Is it really that difficult?
4. Tapping the "clear all notifications" simply erases them from view instead of having them disappear using the little swanky animation that the other devices have.
I realize that all of these issues I bring up are visual, nit-picky things. I also realize that these issues can all be overcome manually. My only point here is that there was seemingly no reason to overlook these things other than Google just not giving a $h1+. Yeah, the Xoom is over 18 months old now, but there is still no 10" Google-Experience tablet to replace it yet. That means it's still Google's reference device for showcasing Android in full tablet configuration. Have some pride, guys. Geez.
Rant over.
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Well stated. I have the same thoughts on the WiFi Xoom JB update. I did however find the .apk for the sound search widget, installed (not rooted) and it works just fine. If I can locate the file I'll post it. Aside from that, yeah, they kind of missed the mark on this one but it did transform the Xoom into a slick new device. Very impressed with the responsiveness added by JB on an aging device.
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Winesnob said:
Well stated. I have the same thoughts on the WiFi Xoom JB update. I did however find the .apk for the sound search widget, installed (not rooted) and it works just fine. If I can locate the file I'll post it. Aside from that, yeah, they kind of missed the mark on this one but it did transform the Xoom into a slick new device. Very impressed with the responsiveness added by JB on an aging device.
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Agreed. In terms of pure performance, no one could argue that JB has made the Xoom as fast and smooth as it has ever been.
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Maybe somewhat off topic...
But I noticed oldblue's reference to the JB update for the 3/4G Xoom...is there an .RUU for that somewhere? I don't really want to root my MZ600 3G Xoom, but I would like the JB update. Is that a viable option here? Sorry this is a bit off topic, but I didn't realize there was a leaked build for it.

Trooper Thorn said:
But I noticed oldblue's reference to the JB update for the 3/4G Xoom...is there an .RUU for that somewhere? I don't really want to root my MZ600 3G Xoom, but I would like the JB update. Is that a viable option here? Sorry this is a bit off topic, but I didn't realize there was a leaked build for it.
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Unfortunately there isn't. The leak is a nandroid backup that was created using an old, outdated recovery. You'd have to unlock your bootloader.
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Trooper Thorn said:
But I noticed oldblue's reference to the JB update for the 3/4G Xoom...is there an .RUU for that somewhere? I don't really want to root my MZ600 3G Xoom, but I would like the JB update. Is that a viable option here? Sorry this is a bit off topic, but I didn't realize there was a leaked build for it.
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I have three rom that i load on my 3G xooom, when there is anything new coming out for xoom wifi only i use my 604 wifi backup, when a yankeeys game is on and the wife is looking at the tv i will load my Verizon 3g jb so i can use timewarner app to see the yankeeys game, my daily rom is CM10.. i never lock my bootloader it is a waste of time doing so you can still get all update with it unlock only my cm10 rom is rooted..

I agree. I am on my JB Xoom right now.
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yeah i agree too, i feel with all the hype about JB there would have been some cosmetic changes to set it apart. to be honest it seems more liken upgrade for ICS than a new version. they named all the 3.x releases honeycomb, maybe all the 4.x ones should be ICS, then name the 5.x series JB

oldblue910 said:
I've been running the leaked VZW Xoom JRO03H ROM that they still haven't released. As far as I can tell, this ROM is identical to the WiFi-only ROM except that it has 3/4G enabled. The ROM is rock solid, runs great, it's fast, etc...but I can't help but feel that Google totally mailed it in with this ROM, at least from an visual standponit.
1. Why would they leave the ICS boot animation in place? I get that the stock Jelly Bean boot animation is the multi-colored X representing the Nexus branding, which obviously wouldn't fit for the Xoom (even though it's a Nexus in all but name). That said, there was a cool alternate boot animation that shipped on the JFN53N build on the Nexus 7 tablets given away at I/O 2012. They could have easily used that and it would have fit fine for the Xoom since it made no reference visually to the Nexus branding whatsoever.
2. They didn't provide the stock Jelly Bean wallpapers found on the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and Nexus 7. Instead they just left the ICS wallpapers in place and changed the default one from the rainbow colored design to the green leaf design. Would it have really been that hard to just put the stock JB wallpapers into the launcher APK?
3. The lack of the Sound Search widget. What would possess them to leave that out? Again, if they can include it on the Nexus S (which is older than the Xoom), why can't they include it on the Xoom? The Nexus 7 even ships with a version of the widget that is resizable. Again, this is two files in the /system folder. Is it really that difficult?
4. Tapping the "clear all notifications" simply erases them from view instead of having them disappear using the little swanky animation that the other devices have.
I realize that all of these issues I bring up are visual, nit-picky things. I also realize that these issues can all be overcome manually. My only point here is that there was seemingly no reason to overlook these things other than Google just not giving a $h1+. Yeah, the Xoom is over 18 months old now, but there is still no 10" Google-Experience tablet to replace it yet. That means it's still Google's reference device for showcasing Android in full tablet configuration. Have some pride, guys. Geez.
Rant over.
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So now that Verizon, Google, and Motorola finally managed to get 4.1.2 out the door for the CDMA/LTE variants, I went back and revisited this thread. I still stand behind this post 100%. With that said, however, it was nice to see that #3 is no longer an issue since it's now available in the Play Store.
Because the original post was written when 4.1.1 was still current, I now have a fifth bullet point to add, which is specific to 4.1.2...
5. In Android 4.1.2, Google added the ability to expand notifications with one finger instead of requiring a two-finger pinch-to-zoom gesture like 4.1.1 did. That feature made it to the Nexus S, Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus but was left out of the Xoom builds. Go figure.
In retrospect, the Xoom really only got Jelly Bean because the Nexus 10 wasn't ready yet. The Android team knew that they were completely overhauling the 10" tablet interface and scrapping the Honeycomb-style interface altogether. This made Android 4.1 on the Xoom nothing but a stopgap to hold them over until the N10, and by extension the new interface in Android 4.2, was ready. For that reason, it's no wonder that Google put so little effort into making Android 4.1 a polished experience on the Xoom.
While it may be lacking visually and functionally compared to other devices that got the update, one thing is still for certain...Jelly Bean made the Xoom run as fast and smooth as it ever did and that's an excellent note on which to end support for such a great device.
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HTC One and Vanilla Android (5.0 (Keylime Pie))?

I had sworn off non-Google phones after a couple of Samsung experiences, but the One is just so well-designed, I can't resist it. It's really the first Android phone which can compete with the iPhone in hardware design.
Now my question is, what happens when Google rolls out Android 5.0? Would vanilla Android be available quickly for the unlocked 32Gb and the 64 Developer edition? Is there any reason why it may not happen, or it may be difficult to do? Would the non-standard button layout throw a wrench in the OS upgrade possibilities?

I dont think so
If you buy the developer edition you can install plane lemon pie on it as it has the bootloader unlocked or any kind of ROM you want. On the Unlucked one you will need to wait until HTC releases the update as it also comes with thei Sense 5.0 UI.:laugh:

HTC have been saying they will be working a lot harder to get the latest updates out to their phones. And you can see as well in the One series that they have delivered to an extent.
Plus as the HTC One is their flagship device for this year, they will be putting all of their attention on it

As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.

They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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sidthegreatest said:
They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
HTC says it went with 4.1 for both stability and time to market reasons, which I think is reasonable considering some of the 4.2.x issues people have complained about, though 4.2.2 fixes most of it. At this point it would be awesome to have 4.2, but for a smartphone the only features I miss are the notification shade settings and perhaps photosphere.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
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Not to mention Lock screen widgets.
But my point is not whether they CAN out 4.2 on their device, but the fact that they did not.
Samsung has 4.2 on the S4, while the SIII also has a leaked ROM. So, I would say that KLP would come to the One in Q4 of this year at the earliest.
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doakills said:
As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
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What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.

When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
cheers

spitfire2425 said:
When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.

snowblind2142 said:
Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
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Atm im running aokp on my htc one-x
I can run pa or cm too if i wanted to and this device only has the htcdev unlock available.
Also sense from other devices can be ported but its a pita so dont expect to much on that side.
However there are also roms who strip htc sense entirly making it a treu aosp experience and diff ui's can be flashed( xperia and samsung ui have been ported to hox)
Obviously this doesnt mean its gonna happen at the one but i sure hope so
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romitkin said:
I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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But bootloader unlock (which AFAIK is available for the 32gb unlocked version as well) does not mean that the rest of the hardware will be opened up to developers, right?
Ugh, I was hoping for a much more optimistic scenario.... I love the efforts the developers here pour into maintaing these sets when the hardware is not exposed and the manufacturer drags its feet on updates, but after having to deal with the constant ROM tinkering and numerous resulting issues with my old Samsing sets, I am not excited about the prospect of going through it again.
Also, I am wondering if the non-standard soft buttons will affect easy porting of 5.0 to the One?

Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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MacGuy2006 said:
What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
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HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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Enraged21 said:
HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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romitkin said:
I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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I meant s-off. Sorry..
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ste1164 said:
They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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I would hope so. But the fact that they are releasing their flagship with months old OS version is a little worrying.
I am not so broken up about 4.2, but 5 sounds like it will be a rather major update and if this thing doesn't get updated promptly, it will be a very disappointing acquisition for me.

arknailed7754 said:
Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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Exactly. I can't believe there's already complaints about the time it will take HTC to update the phone to KLP. One of the main reasons people are flocking to this phone is the awesome job HTC did on the software features. If they slapped it together you could have the latest, but not the same experience. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

ste1164 said:
They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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How do you know this? I would love for this to be true but, given my experience with the One X, I find it hard to believe.