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Google is releasing the SDK out to developers today for JellyBean. That is good news for the Dev Community.

I'm nervous about the new graphics and rendering system upgrades.
This may affect our portability with certain closed source drivers.
I'm having second thoughts about this phone. If I want to go through the slow upgrades again. GS2 doesn't have official ICS yet and JB is out.

jnadke said:
GS2 doesn't have official ICS yet and JB is out.
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Yes it does, it got its official release a few weeks ago

I think he means for sprint. We still don't have an official update on sprint.

I am nervous and freaking out about JB since we don't have it yet (so what if it hasn't rolled out yet).
Knowing Samsung it will be like 12 years before it ever comes out and worse than that Sprint will still be charging us $10 a month for premium data even after they roll out LTE.
I'm freaking out over this"
(kidding)

cbond007 said:
Google is releasing the SDK out to developers today for JellyBean. That is good news for the Dev Community.
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Here is a Android 4.1 Jelly Bean SDK Image System Dump
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736529
EDIT: and 4.1is available thru SDK manager for download

If tmobile does officially release Jellybean don't expect for it to show up soon. it took 7 months!!!! for ICS to be rolled out on the GS2.

And just as soon as I get a phone with ICS, its not obsolete. Awesome... maybe JB will hit the SGS3 by next summer.

Well lets just hope that the Devs will be able to make some magic happen for our devices using the new "Project Butter" they are implementing in JB.

Idk I'm reconsidering maybe returning and waiting for the next nexus. Google will roll out with the update in mid July and the gnex will receive it via OTA. It just sucks how carriers take such a long time to make sure their bloat works. At&t and Tmobile just barely had ICS roll out on GS2 and I don't think sprint has even been upgraded officially yet.

cbond007 said:
Well lets just hope that the Devs will be able to make some magic happen for our devices using the new "Project Butter" they are implementing in JB.
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This is what i was excited about..!

Where's my Jelly Bean!?!
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And just as soon as I get a phone with ICS, its not obsolete. Awesome... maybe JB will hit the SGS3 by next summer.
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Obsolete because it doesn't have JB? ha ha! I knew this was coming.
I almost started a "I'm pissed I don't have JB" thread when I read about it last night......ROFL!
(I'm not mocking you MadFlava specifically)....no disrespect intended. I just think it's funny. Seems like this happens with each release and every phone I've had.

Debating wether to port it or not :|
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Did anyone took a note of the PDK(platform development kit) for device manufacturers? It is supped to speed up os upgraded by oems. Hoping it will improve the fragmentation situation.

C_LosEvo said:
Idk I'm reconsidering maybe returning and waiting for the next nexus. Google will roll out with the update in mid July and the gnex will receive it via OTA. It just sucks how carriers take such a long time to make sure their bloat works. At&t and Tmobile just barely had ICS roll out on GS2 and I don't think sprint has even been upgraded officially yet.
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There is no new phone that Google is revealing. Jellybean will only be on the nexus s, galaxy nexus and nexus 7 tablet. I have high hopes that developers will be able to get a working CM version of jellybean on this sgs3

It's almost certain that their will be custom roms of the latest Android OS long before CDMA Nexus' get it. Not to mention the new Nexus will have underwhelming specs. I say hold on to your S3.

Looking forward to a CyanogenMod 9.1 (or would that be 10?)

Considering how new this phone is and the inevitable huge developer support once everyone gets their phones I'm not too worried about not having this for long.
Besides... I am perfectly happy with ICS. I haven't found a need or an issue that would make me irritated by not having something in JB. That's technology and software for you. There is always something right around the corner that is better.
Be happy with what you have, always seeking the newest greatest thing will drive you crazy and/or broke.
Sprint Galaxy S3

stuff said:
There is no new phone that Google is revealing. Jellybean will only be on the nexus s, galaxy nexus and nexus 7 tablet. I have high hopes that developers will be able to get a working CM version of jellybean jellybean this sgs3
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Yeah i know their is no new phone. I was meant as just holding out till a new nexus rolls out maybe in Nov. Don't get me wrong the GS3 is a beast device! and i am confident our devs will port jellybean way before.

Jeffbucc said:
Considering how new this phone is and the inevitable huge developer support once everyone gets their phones I'm not too worried about not having this for long.
Besides... I am perfectly happy with ICS. I haven't found a need or an issue that would make me irritated by not having something in JB. That's technology and software for you. There is always something right around the corner that is better.
Be happy with what you have, always seeking the newest greatest thing will drive you crazy and/or broke.
Sprint Galaxy S3
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So very true
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Jelly Bean Android 4.1

Guys in live you can see the Google I/O conference,
http://www.youtube.com/user/googledevelopers?feature=results_main
Say what do you think about that !!
Good luck for Texasice, DK-Zero-Cool to bring to us the best experience for Our beloved Nexus even after 2 years of good and loyal service

Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.

We have 90% ICS. Only Camera video recording is outstanding. Same on many other ROMS for other handsets I presume.
BTW, will ICS ever be 100% on Nexus One? What do you think? ICS camera dev seems to be dead
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
Here's to 5 new Nexus on Nov 5th, and then cheaper Nexus in 6 months after that - so roll on May 2013 I say!

cpm said:
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..

same here waiting for the next nexus device and praying it will not be made by samsung since i never had good times with there products

fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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ah i was watching Jelly Bean running on GN and it is just so fluid! i was beginning to feel so dare i say jealous, but you guys have totally given me new hope!
If we can hold out a couple of months for the next Nexus we can be proud YES1 :highfive:
Nexus One is our hero. long standing, trustworthy little guy. :victory:

race55 said:
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
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Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606
I have been using for couple of months, I find it functional and stable.

fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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Hope there will be a 3.7" top notch as well!
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4.3'' is perfect or 4.5
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5.3" please. Bigger IS better
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Buy a tablet
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But that won't fit in my pocket. What I'm planning on is a 5.x phablet and a 10" tablet, both Nexus devices.
Ah well, we can all dream
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As for now, almost half a year, we don't have an ICS stable release and neither we will have it soon, I don't think, in a near future, we will have a JB stable one, although this is just a minor release.
I wish the devs did not agree with me

How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.

I am going to stay with CM7.2 on my nexus one. It's very stable and efficient. Then when the next device comes out I am going use this as my music player

YoMarK said:
How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
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For me it is very stable but CM9 & AOKP ROMs didn't reached stable requirements yet because they have bugs that are important to fix and crucial for the rom's workflow. They are considered experimental for now (CM team released this week CM9 RC1).

Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.

GldRush98 said:
Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Even Google drops the price of galaxy nexus to $300, I will stick with the N1.

I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.

Indefinite Implosion said:
I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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Especially the New status bar
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Will Samsung skip ICS and give us JB straight?

I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....

I hope so :laugh:

Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.

Careful gents its the hope that kills you. ;-)
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i wondered how you guys still trust and make hopes with this company!!
Samsung will not give you anything sir, it is just taking from you. don't kill your self by waiting the mirage

chrisrotolo said:
Im guessing Sammy and Moto got the PDK beta a month or two ago, so while it is actually possible; in my mind, I know better to than to get my hopes up.
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3 months according to google, but if anything is to arrive with Jellybean it will be the Note 2 or possibly a nexus successor.

Doubt it, they have announced ICS to be released between July and August, so why would they turn sround and decide to give us JB.
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The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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furius said:
The only way to have JB on our tab is to help the only one developer that worked hard on a CM9 porting
He needs donation since his tab is broken:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722634
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No disrespect but i think he was asking about stock JB not a modified ROM built from ICS/JB , not a lot of us are instered in mofied ROMS

Is that a trick question? Lets get ICS first
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Well there's another dev working at the tab that I know of, Sk806.
So Locera, SK806, that's two... Still not much but value both of them.
We should be happy we get ICS, it will just make us think we got a new device,
and the step to JB won't be that hard for the devs then.. I guess..I hope.. I don't care I want ICS now please, this HC feels sluggish.

ZhenMing said:
I really doubt it will comes true... but worth of dreaming....
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The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Ours has a bigger better screen ,and waaay thinner... sold! :highfive:

Skip ics. I'm running jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and I can say unequivocally that it's hands down better. I can't believe the difference.
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Nope, sadly. I'd like to keep this tab for awhile longer and it would be nice if Samsung showed up Apple and keeps updating it (and other recent Galaxy devices) for at least one more version. But, nah. Maybe it will be easier for someone to port 4.1 when the 4.0 source eventually gets out?
But if not...**** it, who cares. A few interface tweaks and some nice features, but the 7.7 will still be highly usable with ICS, I would say.

Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs

appelflap said:
The nexus 7 pretty much rendered the tab 7.7 obsolete when it comes to software (and speed due to software optimization alone) . There's no salesman in the world that could sell it to a customer instead of the nexus 7.
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Unless of course he is traveling salesman. Travel with Nexus 7 is somewhat restricted to about 100 meters.

I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.

Gaugerer said:
I see no technical reason why the 7.7 should not be able to run JB unless JB needs 2Gb of memory.
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Jelly Belly (yes i ment to say belly and not bean) does not need to have 2 gb of RAM. I hope ICS helps out the 7.7 but i also ordered a nexus 7 to see what it can offer for the price.

wintermute000 said:
Theoretically the binary blob drivers that come with ICS source should be able to be used in JB builds? I'm guessing
The main obstacle in current ICS dev is lack of ICS drivers esp as they are closed sammy blobs
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I was thinking the same thing. And hoping it is indeed the case.

LG Optimus 2X not getting official ICS!

Have you guys read? http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-Canada-no-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-for-the-Optimus-2X_id32715
This can be bad news for us. Remember how LG said that the O2X will get ICS in Q2 2012, and then delayed it to Q3 2012? Seems like its no longer getting it. The Optimus 2X is also a Tegra based phone, so who knows what might happen to our scheduled update...
What do you guys think? Probably Nvidia's fault?
Fingers crossed that our update is still on schedule and that we'll see a leak soon.
Sent from that Atrix.

Indeed if Nvidia is involved in this cancelling that would be a bad news... I tried getting some news on Twitter about the ICS update...
"Rollouts begin in Q3 2012" SERIOUSLY ?! :silly:
I think Motorola and other firms should make a step forward for their community and give them some more news... That's a pain not even knowing if we're getting official ICS or not !

HTC did the same thing to Desire with less than a month to go. I'm tellin ya...don't be surprised.

About two more months to go. Motorola might cancelled it at the last minute.

That would be the worst news we could have... But the Atrix is the first device having the Webtop feature... If we can get Nvidia drivers from other devices and Webtop 3.0 from the Razr or any other device it could work with some settings. The new Webtop is just a tablet mode and a video output switch, we can still hope having this feature even on community ROMs.

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lg did not dropped ics for o2x. that statement affects only the lg-p999, the canadian version of o2x. this was discussed at the optimus forum here.
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lg did not dropped ics for o2x. that statement affects only the lg-p999, the canadian version of o2x. this was discussed at the optimus forum here.
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Thanks for clarifying. That means we still got hope.
Sent from that Atrix.

Canadian carriers are scummy like that. Sign a 3 year contract (only way to get a discount on a phone), and get a whole 7 months of support.

I would happy even if Motorola said... only a vanilla Google experience will be made available, no webtop, nothing extra, take it or leave it.
I'd take it with no complaints,
Sent from my MB680 w/tweaked blur rom.

As much as webtop is a good idea, it was HDMI mirroring, or the lack of it that surprised me about this phone.
Sent from my MB680 w/tweaked blur rom.

jersonf said:
I would happy even if Motorola said... only a vanilla Google experience will be made available, no webtop, nothing extra, take it or leave it.
I'd take it with no complaints,
Sent from my MB680 w/tweaked blur rom.
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I'd take it too, but I'd love to have FP sensor support, even on an AOSP ROM!

but the ATT atrix will. intl may not get it tho...
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I'd take it too, but I'd love to have FP sensor support, even on an AOSP ROM!
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atrix will get ics, and if any other tegra2 phone get JB, i dont doubt it help the atrix to get official jb too. atrix is one of the most known phones from motorola, so they may be giving it more love than to other brothers of im. lol

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but the ATT atrix will. intl may not get it tho...
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atrix will get ics, and if any other tegra2 phone get JB, i dont doubt it help the atrix to get official jb too. atrix is one of the most known phones from motorola, so they may be giving it more love than to other brothers of im. lol
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guidoido004, I remember you have a friend who works for company which works with motorola. Do you know the status of ICS upgrade for Atrix?

Im really hope official come out totally
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jersonf said:
I would happy even if Motorola said... only a vanilla Google experience will be made available, no webtop, nothing extra, take it or leave it.
I'd take it with no complaints,
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Heck, i would even take the drivers only, so that joker and the devs here can make their maigc.

Will Nexus S get 4.2?

I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.

it cant be that hard, I mean there really isnt anything new.

I wondered how long it would take for a thread title like this would come up..HAHA! :laugh:

Can't see why not, it got 4.1 so should get 4.2 as it's not a huge update. Well, that's my wishful thinking anyway!

Still JB, will get
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Yes, the Nexus S will get 4.2 officially. It will get 5.0 as well, if not officially then by CyanogenMod.

JavaJunkay said:
I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
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Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.

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Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
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I'd say ^^ pretty much ends this convo. Right on target.

Nice to hear all that. Nexus S ftw

Why not
Our Nexus S it's untill powerfull...

It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!

I think the chances are pretty good that the NS will get 4.2, but beyond that I'm skeptical. We're coming up on the phone's two-year anniversary for one thing. It's also begun to chug a bit with Jelly Bean, and I doubt the next major update will be any less resource intensive. Between the age and the hardware limitations, I suspect we're in the twilight months of Google support for the Nexus S.

must will get 4.2.... not official no problem :laugh:

this will probably be the last update the Nexus S gets.
Good thing tho, you know most likely that XDA will have some form of port.
I'm getting the Nexus 4 tho!!! my contract is almost up. I might even get it off contract! (AU$400 for 32GB, thats dirt cheap compared to the iPhone 5 which is AU$900! That's less than half the price, for better specs... and android... and build quality is improved dramatically from the previous Nexusesss)

I think it will get 4.2 ... it an incremental upgrade, so anything 'jellybean' we should get
Can't wait to try 4.2
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It will get official 4.2 for sure, but key lime pye will be here only unofficial.
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last year, when I bought my Nexus S, someone told me: "It's a year's old phone.. don't waste your money..."

I'm almost sure for 4.2 ...
I personally think about a Google "3 letters law" for Nexus devices. Nexus One went from E(Eclair) to G(Gingerbread), passing by Frojo, Nexus S will go from G to J passing by ICS, and GNex will "live" from I to L ... Officially speaking, I mean And, of course, I hope there will always be some clever group (like CyanogenMod, for example) or "one man band" who enjoy to develop ROM or kernel for our preferred devices :fingers-crossed:

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It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
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You made the right choice .

It remains to be seen if the Nexus S and Xoom will get 4.2 or if 4.1.2 was the last update. We won't know until 4.2 gets released to AOSP. I will say that since they seem to have axed the Honeycomb-style tablet interface from 4.2, the Xoom may be out. As for the Nexus S...historically Google has only maintained support for the current and previous phone generation, which would now be the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. That said, however, I don't see anything major that would lead me to believe that the Nexus S couldn't run 4.2...unless they tossed out support for capacitive buttons entirely.
Regardless of whether or not there is a stock 4.2 ROM for either device, I'm sure the developers here will have custom ROMs that have it baked in.