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Lets make sure atrix gets ice cream sandwich we do have the power

http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them

try and get as many people as you can too do the same. It will make a difference.

I'd wait until ICS is released. As things stand today, Atrix has the latest Android version available.

Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion

silver03wrx said:
Yes that is correct how ever the atrix 2 is not a good sign for us. And it is a good idea too voice our oppinion before they stop supporting our phone if we do after really wouldnt have the same effect in my oppinion
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Yeah but the atrix 2 is a stepdown compared to atrix 1!

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I'd wait until ICS is released. As things stand today, Atrix has the latest Android version available.
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It's running 2.3.7? Thats news to me, also have people not seen the leaked videos? It appears to have all on screen buttons. Like honeycomb. Not sure it would work on the atrix. The screen is already small enough
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The Atrix is really close to being officially supported by CM. Once ICS is released and the CM team makes their latest version (will be CM9) it will have ICS and will work with with the Atrix.

re: official CYyanogen support, do you know this officially or are you speculating?
not being rude, genuinely want to know

I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.

elementaldragon said:
.... i don't see what the idea of potentially spamming their facebook page will do (Didn't actually go to their facebook page... just read that's where your link was going to redirect). The phone is only 7 months old.... i'm fairly certain they're WELL AWARE that we want ICS. I mean wtf... look how much flak they got from every moron in the world when the Atrix was still running Froyo.
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They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.

edgeicator said:
They got tons of flak for promising gingerbread for the Motorola Milestone (gsm version of OG Droid) and then saying nevermind. Mind you, this was merely 1 year after the milestone came out as well. Gingerbread for the Atrix was inevitable. Not giving the Atrix gingerbread would be a PR disaster. What people fail to realise about a CM port of ICS to the Atrix is that if Moto decides to EOL the Atrix after only a year with no ICS upgrade, you lose out on updated drivers, kernel, and baseband. Sure we'd have ICS, but it won't run as well as a phone that natively has ICS.
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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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ccrows said:
I have no doubt that the Atrix "could" handle ICS.
The Nexus S is rumored to get ICS, and that phone has half the muscle of the Atrix...
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Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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antiochasylum said:
Half the muscle? The humming bird chipset is far superior than the tegra. Just not clocked as fast. And the exynos chipset blows the tegra 2 out of the water.
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Still the Atrix has the extra core which is supposed to be optimized in ICS, plus double the ram over the Nexus S...
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I was not implying spamm there pages i meant voice our oppinion let moto know theres alot of people who like this device and we want them to continue its support. And if they do that would really be. In there favor id most likely choise moto for my next device

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You mean Froyo for the Milestone. They had to release it since they advertised flash on the box.
However the Froyo update basically killed the Milestone. Even Motorola put out a disclaimer that basically said the upgrade may cause performance issues.
The memory on the Milestone was perfect for eclair, but Froyo gave it a brain freeze...
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Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish

Wond3r said:
Not so much
Froyo runs great on my Milestone, I heard GB makes it very sluggish
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Froyo was the reason why I sold my Milestone. Eclair was smoothly, and for whatever reason I could never flash back to Eclair. Every time I tried going back, I got forced closed errors everywhere.
If the Milestone had 512mb of ram, I probably would still be using it since I really liked the build quality of that phone...
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I guess Milestones handled the OS differently than other

Guys. The atrix is getting ICS.
Chill

god if ics is any better than the ics launcher in the market ill bee in heaven
cause this launcher is sweet
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ICS for Play confirmed!

SE Blog
If only all manufacturers could be as awesome as SE <3

Excellent news
Well done Sony (Ericsson) !
Seeing as I have an unlocked/unbranded handset, hopefully won't be too long a wait either

Love you Sony Ericsson, I have an unbranded UK r800i model so I'm hoping the wait isn't that long...
To be honest I never expected them to announce this until 2020.

Great!
Now lets hope Verizon gets it before they are up to Yellow fudge cake.

Rogue Leader said:
Great!
Now lets hope Verizon gets it before they are up to Yellow fudge cake.
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If Verizon releases ICS for the Play, then I will personally donate my unlocked device to OP.
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Wasnt ICS for the Play confirmed much earlier?

IE-coRe said:
Wasnt ICS for the Play confirmed much earlier?
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Apparently it was confirmed and then unconfirmed and no-one knew for sure if we'd get it or not, now we do

Leraeniesh said:
If Verizon releases ICS for the Play, then I will personally donate my unlocked device to OP.
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What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?

Cl8rs said:
What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?
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The fact that it took them months to distribute an update. The low sales. The lack of official SE support. And the low interest SE has with giving support for the R800x.
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Cl8rs said:
What makes you think VZW won't release ICS?
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Poor sales, and the fact that they just announced their releasing the source for 2.3.3 after this long. Pretty sure VZ could care less about ICS for the XP.
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It's interesting that they will be updating the low end (and low res) devices like the minis and the Live. There are lots of apps which don't support those resolutions anymore, isn't there?

That's one of the big reasons I think the American system is flawed, regarding to their (your) own different models of the same phone. In the end it's you as the customer that has to pay the price.
Not to say its confirmed you won't get it either. But doesn't sound like you have much faith in them (Verizon).
I realize this can be an issue in the rest of the world too depending on what manufacturer you have on the phone and their policy of updates (or lack of them). But it's not quite the same as companies demanding different hardware and stuff for their model of the same phone creating even more issues for customers.

VZW managed to get Froyo to the LG Ally, one of the worst Android phones, so I think we will get it. Pretty positive about that, if not, there is always XDA

Never expected "Live" to get it. But oh well, We won't get 4.1, thats the time I flash a custom rom.

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Never expected "Live" to get it. But oh well, We won't get 4.1, thats the time I flash a custom rom.
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We dont even now what 4.1 will be so if it will be an update like 3.0 to 3.1 we will get it.

Anyone know the pro and cons of using ics over gingerbread?

Lol, Ics isn't even released in the Nexus yet. Give it some time to see how it works in real life. Eventually the idea is that Ics is an improvement over Gingerbread, so there shouldn't be any cons.

Xoom WiFi USA (stock) just got pushed ICS Android update (IML77) v4.0.3

Hope we ll be getting a more stable port soon..

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Hope we ll be getting a more stable port soon..
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This is the Galaxy tab 10.1 forum. We don't have the same hardware, so this won't help anyone here.

Yup. It was announced two days ago. It was Motorola's way of squeezing the last buck out of the xoom before they can it. They wanted it to appeal to the masses because of ics' huge "success."
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I think we're missing the bigger picture here..... Xoom got ICS before the SGT10.1 did, before CM9 was moved out of Alpha, before any other tablet on the market today! Sure, it's a "pure Google experience" device, and Google wanted Moto to get the first crack at it, which is all understandable from the official ROM release standpoint, but where the hell are we in all this? I thought CM9 was a go on the SGT10.1 before any other tablet?
Still waiting patiently, but man, that really sucks for us.....

Pretty sure there are hardware issues preventing a finished port. Check out the Cyanogen interview from another site.

GarciaM25 said:
I think we're missing the bigger picture here..... Xoom got ICS before the SGT10.1 did, before CM9 was moved out of Alpha, before any other tablet on the market today! Sure, it's a "pure Google experience" device, and Google wanted Moto to get the first crack at it, which is all understandable from the official ROM release standpoint, but where the hell are we in all this? I thought CM9 was a go on the SGT10.1 before any other tablet?
Still waiting patiently, but man, that really sucks for us.....
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Youre forgetting xoom was lead vehicle for honeycomb so it is likely part of the deal that they get first update
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Google is purchasing Motorola Mobility. So the xoom getting ics first shouldn't surprise anyone.

How is this surprising news? Anybody who can read would know the xoom would get ics first.
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MintJulep said:
Google is purchasing Motorola Mobility. So the xoom getting ics first shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Google is TRYING to purchase Motorola, doesn't mean it's going to happen. Remember all the people who said "hey, at&t bought Tmobile!" or "hey, at&t is buying Tmobile!"
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GarciaM25 said:
before any other tablet on the market today!
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The Transformer prime has gotten the ICS update.

GarciaM25 said:
I think we're missing the bigger picture here..... Xoom got ICS before the SGT10.1 did, before CM9 was moved out of Alpha, before any other tablet on the market today! Sure, it's a "pure Google experience" device, and Google wanted Moto to get the first crack at it, which is all understandable from the official ROM release standpoint, but where the hell are we in all this? I thought CM9 was a go on the SGT10.1 before any other tablet?
Still waiting patiently, but man, that really sucks for us.....
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not sure I get you: CM9 is a modified ICS build that uses ICS code + specific hardware drivers (so it's custom for each device); a google experience device is specifically designated by google to be the first with new OS version. So you should expect the GED to get the update before any official CM9 is released. Also, I have to disagree that it "sucks for us" - don't conflate someone else's good fortune with your own bad fortune.

Hear Hear
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I can't say I'm impressed until ICS gets released for the Galaxy Tab 10.1...

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The Transformer prime has gotten the ICS update.
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Wasn't the ATP just released with ICS, not updated to it?
Also, I'm pretty glad to see that ICS is rolling out for ANYTHING that wasn't given to it at birth. Doesn't anybody see that this just means things are moving along as they should be? At least in the smallest bit?

ATP initially shipped with HC.
It's no surprise that Xoom was the first - in fact I'm shocked it took this long for it to get an official update release, considering it's been supported in AOSP from the beginning.
As others have said, the Xoom was a Google Experience device. Consider it to be the Nexus of Honeycomb tablets.

I've waited very patiently for ICS on the Gtab 10.1. I think I still have a bit of patients left. Task's rom makes the tab enjoyable for now.

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I've waited very patiently for ICS on the Gtab 10.1. I think I still have a bit of patients left. Task's rom makes the tab enjoyable for now.
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I think you mean "patience."
If the gtab 10.1 gets an official OTA what will that mean for CM9? Would it just be a quick fix to any lingering CM9 issues and thereby push us into a CM9 custom ROM immediately? Or would the CM9 devs have to re-develop the new distribution for release?

You know...
There are two things I always hear in technology forums:
1- WOW! Look a girl in the forum!
2- OMG! You always complain....
But yeah, maybe they are right.. Maybe I complain... a lot...
You know, its not that I am jealous that Moto has got ICS before Samsung.
What drives me crazy is that fact we dont even have an ETA. I wouldnt mind waiting until March or April, but a dead line would be nice, or at least a sign that they are doing something! A beta maybe?? A proof of concept? Photos??
But no... Not even a word, nothing...
Last I heard from Samsung is that they got sued by Apple... Then....
*NOTHING*

What exactly are you looking to do differently on your tab when you get ICS?
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Stardate is right lol
besides the difference in the system build, what are you going to do with it? having HC 3.2 and ICS 4.0, you'll do the same thing. what is so proud of getting ICS first when you do know GT10.1 will get it later on. maybe Samsung just keep it as a secret to do more experience test than others.

Motorola: If ICS won't make our device better, we won't update to it

From Motorola's official blog
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You’re not alone. Good thing we’ve got a page for that. You can get the latest software upgrade news on our refreshed page.
You may be wondering why all devices aren’t being upgraded to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Here’s the deal. We work very closely with Google and cell phone carriers for every software update. And, obviously we want the new release to improve our devices. If we determine that can’t be done—well then, we’re not able to upgrade that particular device.
Happy upgrading!
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.

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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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You didn't bought a lapdock recently at iandroid ?
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Moonshield said:
Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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me too I won't install motorola's buggy update I like cm9
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It will be Jelly Bean by the time they release ICS.

Just motobabling to excuse their poor post-sale support.

Only sthing stopping me from using CM8 as a daily, is the camera issues. Video FC is still an issue i hear.

Moonshield said:
Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Well the deal for them is that XDA Developpers is actually some kind of post-sale support for most of their products... And yes, they could release the drivers so the developpers can make better ROMs, I'm currently waiting for an update to install a custom Blur ICS ROM that could support my Lapdock, I'm not as angry as you but I only own the phone since 2 months, and it saved me from Windows Mobile's nightmare, also I'm waiting for a TRUE GPU driver for ICS (Some 2D apps just don't work). I totally agree with you Motorola sucks on this point.

They should admit they're not able to develop as much as jokersax

Me too. I wont updating when they release the official update. I prefer to wait for CM9.
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Lol, but there still will be hundreds of newbs who will update to it and get wonders crappy service and bricks...

That's a good thing.. as long as they come here and tell us about it lol
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.

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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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Probably the same reason the the Bravo is only 2.2.1 and the Defy is 2.2.2 and Defy+ is 2.3.6. Oh and they both have 512mb of ram, same processor, and the biggest difference between the three is the camera module. Should I mention that the Droid2, DroidX, Cliq2, Milestone2, Bravo, Defy, and Defy+ are all almost the same phones with different camera modules, different radios, minor differences, and some happen to have a hw keyboard? They can all boot each others custom roms with some tweaking.
Its so we'll buy newer, better phones with updated systems.
And it is enough ram. My Bravo runs CM9 pretty damn smooth with almost no issues other than some flash problems. Damn locked bootloaders.

I'm putting the blame on MotoBlur. If the Nexus S can handle ICS, then the Atrix most certainly can...
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.

yeahmann said:
The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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Wait really.. That being true, ill go on the assumption that it is without googling it because I've no reason to doubt you, you're totally right. Unless google sees potential in this blur thing, and since they have their own social network they probably don't. But isn't the whole point of blur social integration? What's googles solution to that or do they feel its a non issue?
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development.
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Blur will go away now Microsoft has reamed Motorola in court over it. Might take some time, but I don't see Google/Moto paying Microsoft anything in the long term to keep using it in the US.

Aww, but I liked the social parts of Blur! I also hated everything else about it. Don't suggest any third-party widgets, though.

this is a joke, even my htc tattoo is running on ics which has only 256 mb ram and 512 mb rom

Jelly bean coming soon to the gs3?

So according to the samsung web page it states that jelly bean is coming soon the the gs3. Did anyone else notice this? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...71336618.59771.253235488046600&type=1&theater

btw let me note im not sure how legit the page is but if it is in fact true then this is some great and exciting news =)

Samsung has been showing it's intent to make their updates faster...what will the unified carrier hardware and adding in 2 gigs of RAM for futureproofing.

I hope so...someone has said Q3 2012...we'll see

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I hope so...someone has said Q3 2012...we'll see
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I heard Q4 2012
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28093441
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I heard q3 also, just scuttlebutt though. Can't wait for JB, its going to be phenomenal on the sgs3.
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Thought about selling my gs3 to get the gnex. Then I saw google also released a PDK for JB. I figured it would shorten the wait for Sammy to give us JB.
And I thought, if jellybean is that nice on the gnex, it's gonna be bananas on this phone.
Besides, I'm loving everything about this phone and I think I'll get a nexus 7 for my jellybean fix.
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If the next Nexus phone is coming from Motorola Mobility Samsung will be sure to get JB into the GS3 by then to attract future customers.

I saw Q3 after JB announcement watching IO. Who knows when... but I don't think Samsung is waiting around to release it on their flagship phone.
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/06/28/android-4-1-or-a-value-pack/

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If the next Nexus phone is coming from Motorola Mobility Samsung will be sure to get JB into the GS3 by then to attract future customers.
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I was floored when I heard Moto was releasing the next Nexus phone. I'll never buy another Moto phone

Even if it is Q3, that starts tomorrow and only lasts through September. I think I can suffer through 3 or so months of ICS ;-) And besides... if they're already working on JB I think we'll probably have leaked builds within a week of the device's actual release. Exciting times ahead...
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Gadgetz said:
I was floored when I heard Moto was releasing the next Nexus phone. I'll never buy another Moto phone
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That will stir up the hopeful's that still think MOTO will unlock their bootloader's lol. I agree though. This will be my last MOTO. Sad, as I love the physical build quality. Takes a serious beating and keeps on ticking.
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Oh good, because I was thinking that I really needed something to slow my sammy down. It's just too smooth and fast right now.

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That will stir up the hopeful's that still think MOTO will unlock their bootloader's lol. I agree though. This will be my last MOTO. Sad, as I love the physical build quality. Takes a serious beating and keeps on ticking.
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I was once one of them, had to learn the hard way.

I'm not sure i care about when samsung pushes the JB update to us
i just want pure google JB, damnit this phone will be perfect with pure jb

Well coming soon... hopefully that means SOON. Except if their is really no Flash support or no one can get it to work then forget it. I use Full sites not the craptastic mobile ones.

I really hope Samsung doesn't remove the Google Now search feature from JB (in order to keep it from "competing" with S Voice). One of the few things that bugs me about the TouchWiz implementation is how they remove the stock Android keyboard, in favor of the Samsung Keypad... which is a little ominous. Of course, you can just install the "stock" kb from the Market (if those "ports" are really as good as the stock versions; I'm using the "ICS kb" now on my Vibrant, and it seems pretty good, but haven't spent enough time with the stock kb to judge if it's the same)... I doubt Google Now will be made available the same way!

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I really hope Samsung doesn't remove the Google Now search feature from JB (in order to keep it from "competing" with S Voice). One of the few things that bugs me about the TouchWiz implementation is how they remove the stock Android keyboard, in favor of the Samsung Keypad... which is a little ominous. Of course, you can just install the "stock" kb from the Market (if those "ports" are really as good as the stock versions; I'm using the "ICS kb" now on my Vibrant, and it seems pretty good, but haven't spent enough time with the stock kb to judge if it's the same)... I doubt Google Now will be made available the same way!
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Yeah I was thinking about that too, but Google search is in the phone already so I doubt they removed it, what I really want is to jelly bean coded right with the new samsung, I can't believe I'm actually liking touchwiz tho, if they would let us customize the notifications toggle would be amazing
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yeah, that site does not look legit.
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Docavelli said:
Thought about selling my gs3 to get the gnex. Then I saw google also released a PDK for JB. I figured it would shorten the wait for Sammy to give us JB.
And I thought, if jellybean is that nice on the gnex, it's gonna be bananas on this phone.
Besides, I'm loving everything about this phone and I think I'll get a nexus 7 for my jellybean fix.
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Already pre-ordered my Nexus 7. Can't wait for it to be shipped.