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Official: no Android 4.0 for Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab (according to SamMobile)

From SamMobile.com:
"Samsung has announced that both the Galaxy S and the Galaxy Tab can handle the upgrade to Android 4.0 when looking purely at speed of the device.
However the upgrade will not arrive on these devices simply because certain hardware features will not function.
The quantity of RAM and ROM in this is a big factor.
Some of the Touhwizz functions Samsung uses will not work when combined with Android 4.0 and one of these devices."
http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/22/official-no-android-4-0-for-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab/
Let the discussions begin!

I wasn't really expecting ICS :/ I guess this just makes it official that we won't get it.
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So take off touchwiz samfail!
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Everything they just listed as an issue why it can't get the upgrade is a load of ****.
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yup.. i'm running an early alpha of a CM9 based ICS on my Tab and it runs fine for not having hardware acceleration etc. So I know the same applies for the Epic. Sad that Samsuck just doesn't feel like putting the effort into supporting their devices.. Oh well, hooray capitalism! =P

So, here is their source for the story:
http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/2043
It's in Korean, and reading it through google translate of babelfish is good for a chuckle.
As I interpret it, they say that the Nexus S works because it requires no carrier customization , Touchwiz or region specific features.
Also, from the babel fish translation:
"The soluble memory dosage is insufficient and will provide a satisfied use environment
There is not a possibility.
This considers the hardware evening sunlight, use environment of optimum to the customers provision
Description below being a selection which is inevitable for to understand, wishes."
I think that may mean the phone is near end of life (hardware evening sunlight)
and customers wouldn't like how ICS runs on this hardware anyway.
Oh well, we'll see how CM9 runs.

I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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txtmikhail said:
I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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Seems fair...
It's really quite sad- Samsung seems to *MAKE* good hardware, they just have a piss-poor software development team.

phdeez said:
Seems fair...
It's really quite sad- Samsung seems to *MAKE* good hardware, they just have a piss-poor software development team.
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yes.. watch in six months when jelly bean come out.. sgs2 nor galaxy tabs will get it because of some bs with hardware/software(TW).. they gonna want us to upgrade to the sgs3 or galaxy tabs v2

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398010,00.asp
pcmag confirms.

MTD roms.........the alternative future?
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sonarchist said:
MTD roms.........the alternative future?
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Maybe, if there is an ICS port in the next 6 months that's smooth and fully functional I'd go there. But I'm moving on to LTE asap.

Just means no "official" ICS, I'm sure devs will have something for it. I would imagine that most of the people that know what they're missing will be on to new phones by then anyway.

Hopefully they can pull off cm9 for the gs series.
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Samsung just keeps on giving!

This is just Samsung being downright LAZY. Heck the Nexus S is getting ICS from them right? And that is most definitely a Galaxy S phone. They just don't want to be bothered to support the Galaxy S line as a whole anymore clearly.

If we didn't have to worry about touchwiz... it would be here by now... why do we need it when the UI of ICS is far superior. At the very least release the driver source files so that devs can do it for you... Samsung needs to be more open to developers in that regard.

txtmikhail said:
I not surprise... That's why I didn't get the galaxy tab 10.1 because im tied of Samsung BS..
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+1 to this. I skipped the Galaxy Tabs for the same reason...well, that and the fact that they left out micro SD!

avlon said:
+1 to this. I skipped the Galaxy Tabs for the same reason...well, that and the fact that they left out micro SD!
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True. And hdmi....comes in handy over friends houses..
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Keep in mind that this isn't just Samsung's pickiness about having their TW branding. This is also a product of carrier demands. Carriers do NOT like (for the most part) unbranded, undifferentiated phones, and they especially don't like phones that aren't preloaded with software that represents services they provide.
Frankly, I was always convinced that arrangements such as VZN's with the NFL required them to have the app on all relevant phones. The NFL is anal like that.
IOW, it's a LOT of different factors coming together keeping ICS off of Galaxy S phones, many of which are problems with how the smartphone industry itself has come to work, and targeting one player while ignoring the bigger picture--though it sure makes life easier for journalists and bloggers--cheapens the whole conversation.

[Q] While we're waiting for ICS...

Considering, from a hardware standpoint, how similar the Note and the 7.7 are, has anyone thought to maybe make a Honeycomb 3.2 ROM for the Note based off of a 7.7 build?
Can this be done? What are the implications? What are the technical hurdles? Is it worth it?
Thoughts and comments appreciated, and perhaps developer intrigue would be a bonus!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Considering, from a hardware standpoint, how similar the Note and the 7.7 are, has anyone thought to maybe make a Honeycomb 3.2 ROM for the Note based off of a 7.7 build?
Can this be done? What are the implications? What are the technical hurdles? Is it worth it?
Thoughts and comments appreciated, and perhaps developer intrigue would be a bonus!
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Honeycomb was tablet-only, so at the very least, you'd likely lose all phone functionality.

dwboston said:
Honeycomb was tablet-only, so at the very least, you'd likely lose all phone functionality.
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Why do you think so? As far as I know Galaxy tab 7.7 is capable of making phone calls too...

lxxxxxr said:
Why do you think so? As far as I know Galaxy tab 7.7 is capable of making phone calls too...
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Yes it is!
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Exactly my point! Since the 7.7, specifically the P6800, (which I own btw and it is fantastic) is a fully functioning phone in every respect, why couldn't we make a Note compatible port of its ROM?
I mean, I'm sure that once the Note does officially receive ICS, it'll be 5 minutes before someone here changes the DPI setting so that we'll effectively have full blown tablet ICS running on the Note, which is going to be awesome of course! But who knows how long that will take before we actually get ICS?
Hence my whole reasoning behind creating this post in the first place.
With Honeycomb running on the 7.7, you really do have the best of both worlds; you have a true tablet (I say this because, having used both devices, I really feel that the Note is more of a huge phone than a small tablet), and it just so happens that that tablet can double as your phone! Brilliant!
Thus, I think it would be awesome to bring Honeycomb (assuming it's even possible) to the Note. You would be able to take advantage of native hardware acceleration for the UI, as well as getting the benefit of a full tablet OS on your device, and all without sacrificing your ability to make and receive normal phone calls and SMS/MMS.

The ics Cyano ROM came about only after a leak. I doubt we will see a leak of HC as all efforts of Samsung are on the ics. And no developer would build from scratch a ROM with the ics a few weeks.
Cool idea but it will not happen.
OTOH I would love to see ics parts transferred to out GB . Gmail and browser, but they are depending on kernel, so that will not happen either.
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geonahta said:
The ics Cyano ROM came about only after a leak. I doubt we will see a leak of HC as all efforts of Samsung are on the ics. And no developer would build from scratch a ROM with the ics a few weeks.
Cool idea but it will not happen.
OTOH I would love to see ics parts transferred to out GB . Gmail and browser, but they are depending on kernel, so that will not happen either.
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True, but the CM9 ROM for the Note is an AOSP build, which is why so many things aren't working, due to hardware driver issues and such.
With a potential HC 3.2 port from the 7.7, considering the hardware similarities, that could be maybe easier and quicker to do? I'm not a dev, so I don't know... That's kinda why I was hoping for some thoughts and opinions from a ROM cooker or dev.
Here's to hoping!

Not worth it. Honeycomb is dead, and all tablets will get ICS. It's a waste of time, and we should concentrate on ICS.

LordManhattan said:
Not worth it. Honeycomb is dead, and all tablets will get ICS. It's a waste of time, and we should concentrate on ICS.
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I guess... At the very least, I wonder if it's possible to cannibalize the HC drivers from the 7.7 to work with the CM9 Alpha for the Note?

I have no idea, so someone else has to answer you on that one

Biggest problem I foresee is the same reason why there was no CM8. No HC source. But I don't know much just taking a guess.
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rquinn19 said:
Biggest problem I foresee is the same reason why there was no CM8. No HC source. But I don't know much just taking a guess.
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they released HC source when they released ICS source.

JamieD81 said:
they released HC source when they released ICS source.
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My bad. I missed that
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I don't think this is a good idea, HC was ridiculously difficult to port on Soc's other than TEGRA 2. I doubt it can be done before the official ics is released. What we should be putting more effort is on the CM9 port.
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Jelly Bean Android 4.1

Guys in live you can see the Google I/O conference,
http://www.youtube.com/user/googledevelopers?feature=results_main
Say what do you think about that !!
Good luck for Texasice, DK-Zero-Cool to bring to us the best experience for Our beloved Nexus even after 2 years of good and loyal service

Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.

We have 90% ICS. Only Camera video recording is outstanding. Same on many other ROMS for other handsets I presume.
BTW, will ICS ever be 100% on Nexus One? What do you think? ICS camera dev seems to be dead
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
Here's to 5 new Nexus on Nov 5th, and then cheaper Nexus in 6 months after that - so roll on May 2013 I say!

cpm said:
Perhaps if we get 3 years out of owning the N1 we can hold our heads high and be proud enough to move on!
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^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..

same here waiting for the next nexus device and praying it will not be made by samsung since i never had good times with there products

fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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ah i was watching Jelly Bean running on GN and it is just so fluid! i was beginning to feel so dare i say jealous, but you guys have totally given me new hope!
If we can hold out a couple of months for the next Nexus we can be proud YES1 :highfive:
Nexus One is our hero. long standing, trustworthy little guy. :victory:

race55 said:
Like we are ever going to get jelly bean... We don't even have a functional bug free ics after almost a year.
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Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606
I have been using for couple of months, I find it functional and stable.

fake_japanese_guy said:
^^ This..
I am waiting for the next Nexus device. Im hopping it will have a 5 Inch screen..
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Hope there will be a 3.7" top notch as well!
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4.3'' is perfect or 4.5
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5.3" please. Bigger IS better
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Buy a tablet
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But that won't fit in my pocket. What I'm planning on is a 5.x phablet and a 10" tablet, both Nexus devices.
Ah well, we can all dream
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As for now, almost half a year, we don't have an ICS stable release and neither we will have it soon, I don't think, in a near future, we will have a JB stable one, although this is just a minor release.
I wish the devs did not agree with me

How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.

I am going to stay with CM7.2 on my nexus one. It's very stable and efficient. Then when the next device comes out I am going use this as my music player

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How do you mean not stable? It's perfectly stable and fast. Only the camcorder does not work very well.
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For me it is very stable but CM9 & AOKP ROMs didn't reached stable requirements yet because they have bugs that are important to fix and crucial for the rom's workflow. They are considered experimental for now (CM team released this week CM9 RC1).

Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.

GldRush98 said:
Jelly Bean looks bad ass, especially with project butter and the new voice command.
It is also the reason I have finally decided to move on from my N1 after 2 and a half years of loyal service. The failing battery, the half-functioning trackball, and constantly battling internal storage woes have forced me to move on.
The good news is there is a Galaxy Nexus with my name on it, heading my way right now.
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Even Google drops the price of galaxy nexus to $300, I will stick with the N1.

I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.

Indefinite Implosion said:
I'm really hoping the devs can integrate some of the new things in Jelly Bean to their current ROMs without much extra work. I think it should be possible due to very incremental nature of the update.
That said, I've pretty much accepted that if it is possible, it's highly unlikely they'll be able to integrate the Project Butter stuff from what Google has said about it! Seems it will use massive amounts of system storage and RAM, so that's almost definitely out of our N1's capabilities.
I would be amazed if they managed to get that in there. I still hope they can manage to get Google Now and all the other little tweaks in to a potential JB ROM for the N1.
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Especially the New status bar
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OK Samsung, W8 is out and taking buyers, time for JB OTA - now!

JB for the Note II has been out for a while now. Note II specs are remarkably similar to SGN10.1 specs. JB with Note II multitasking competes well with W8. The current configuration not so much.
So, open letter to Samsung. Time to push out the JB OTA now! You are going to start losing SGN10.1 users to W8 devices. Get your act together and OTA us dammit. This is a new device. We should NOT be made to wait like this. Pisses us off and just bad business for you.
And if you are delaying us just so your W8 devices can get a foothold you are going to have some unhappy early adopters on your hands.
Get it done.
P.S., This post will solve nothing but It felt good to vent.
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mitchellvii said:
JB for the Note II has been out for a while now. Note II specs are remarkably similar to SGN10.1 specs. JB with Note II multitasking competes well with W8. The current configuration not so much.
So, open letter to Samsung. Time to push out the JB OTA now! You are going to start losing SGN10.1 users to W8 devices. Get your act together and OTA us dammit. This is a new device. We should NOT be made to wait like this. Pisses us off and just bad business for you.
And if you are delaying us just so your W8 devices can get a foothold you are going to have some unhappy early adopters on your hands.
Get it done.
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Thing are done allot different in tablet mode than in normal phone mode so the fact that the note II has same hardware as note 10.1 doesn't make it easy to make a jelly bean rom for it, the interface is completly different
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hoss_n2 said:
Thing are done allot different in tablet mode than in normal phone mode so the fact that the note II has same hardware as note 10.1 doesn't make it easy to make a jelly bean rom for it, the interface is completly different
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Nevertheless, its time to get 'er done. Samsung is making billions. Hire the software enginners and make it happen.
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How long should we wait,I support the open post:good:,bring it on Samsung,we have already paid you the price.

Sadly, I don't think Samsung listen to you.
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To those who would switch, it would most likely be a Samsung Ativ, so to Samsung it's the right pocket moving to the left and its still Samsung.
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relldroid said:
Sadly, I don't think Samsung listen to you.
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Probably not but still wanted to say it
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What concerns me is that we aren't even seeing any new test builds of the JB OTA with all the Note II goodies in them. You would think they would throw a few test builds out before the actual OTA release. Nothing on Sammy at all.
This makes me think we aren't even close.

just an fyi, but us americans aren't seeing some of the note 2 goodies on the note 2 yet. gotta wait on an update - no multiview is one.

mathen said:
How long should we wait,I support the open post:good:,bring it on Samsung,we have already paid you the price.
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We paid the price for the ICS and it has been updated anything else is just yet to come when Samsung thinks it's ready and or the right time for them.

Yes, it's always a good idea to try to put pressure on a company to release software they don't think is ready. I mean, we all know they develop things and just wait and wait for no reason before releasing.

donec said:
We paid the price for the ICS and it has been updated anything else is just yet to come when Samsung thinks it's ready and or the right time for them.
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Sadly, we consumers "pay the price" whenever we don't buy stock Android.
I totally forgot about CM10 tho :thumbup:
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midas69 said:
Yes, it's always a good idea to try to put pressure on a company to release software they don't think is ready. I mean, we all know they develop things and just wait and wait for no reason before releasing.
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Yes we must pressure them. I have already withdrawn the invitations to my awesome birthday party.
Lol.
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Is this all apps or specific apps, if not, hope samsung releases whatever needs releasing to help third party app devs implement this feature on tw

Maybe we should start flooding their facebook site on the JB update.

sadly, i would bet 8/10 people have zero idea what operating version of android is running on the note currently out of the population that has it now. the general public is completely clueless when it
comes to android.

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I wouldn't expect JB out anytime soon, with 4.2 out last night Samsung probably has to start with the OS base all over again but if they had gotten to the apps then at least those are a quick copy paste but with less devs working on the S3 and Note 2 version as it is practically out we will probably see the update coming through in December late November unless they give us 4.1 and we wait for 4.2.
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My first generation note have come through allot of updates (2.3.3/ 2.3.6/4.0.3 /4.04 /4.04 with s3 touch wizard / and finally 4.11 jelly bean with full note 2 software features) I hope we will be treated the same way they treated the original note in terms of updates
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that depends on how many note 10.1 are sold note sold in millions and hence its still supported

Xoom not supported in AOSP

According to Jean-Baptiste Queru of the AOSP, the xoom and nexus aren't supported.... "There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2."
later, he says he cannot comment on the future of those devices. What does this mean for us?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951841
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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joshndroid said:
Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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I think they're working on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885269
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unofficialy it will eventually come and it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it...it's not a big jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2

romdroid. said:
it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.

The one feature from 4.2 that I really wanted is multi user support. It was an obvious omission from tablets right from the beginning.
What are the chances of fully activating this feature in 4.1.2, seeing as it already has the underpinnings under the surface?

Yes, it's sad, but those that say it's a "marketing ploy" just need to realize how old the Xoom is and how much work it takes to port these new releases to devices. Money doesn't grow on trees, and neither do man-hours. Once the 4.2 branch started happening and the Nexus 10 hardware was finalized it became Google's standard 10-inch tablet internally. The guys who would have been doing the port internally in Google probably have N10s on their desks and their Xooms are collecting dust in some drawer. That's the way the world works.
That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
Either way, if it doesn't hit AOSP, I'll either sell it to get some dough for a N10 (my mom has been talking about buying it from me) or lend my support to the porting process during the holiday break. The multi-user mode in 4.2 would be very useful on the Xoom.

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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.

romdroid. said:
dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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Thats a bit of a hostile response, don't you think?
And if by "core," you're referring to the SoC, yeah it kinda does matter. The tegra 2 is a tad outdated, its architecture being a big part of it (A9). The Tegra 3 was a nice upgrade on Nvidia's part, with the Samsung Exynos 5 being even better than that. I'm sure someone with even more technical expertise could explain more in detail on the differences, but the architecture itself is a good indicator.
Now on to personal experience. I've put my Xoom alongside a Nexus 7 and my Galaxy Nexus, all running 4.1.2 and yeah, the Xoom is noticeably slower. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10's performance in person. No one here is saying the Xoom is **** or slow or whatever. But it is, gasp, slower than devices with hardware that is fresh and not 2 years old. Newer technology is better, who knew?
So yeah...no offense but given the delightful way you went about disagreeing with me, I'd say you were projecting just a tad.
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That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
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The difference with those instances and now is that the Xoom was projected to get all of those, it just took a bit of time for it to hit AOSP. According to the google groups statement, the Xoom is slated to stay on 4.1.2 (I forget the actual quote). Now of course, that could mean, as you say, that it might just be a while for it to hit AOSP, but I think that's being a bit hopeful. Hopefully we'll get an official word on it soon but I think thats about it, at least with regards to AOSP.
And honestly, the Xoom had 18+ months of official support. For those that remember, 18 months was what Google wanted manufacturers under the Android Update Alliance to go by for supporting devices. So they've met their own target and then some with regards to both the Xoom and the Nexus S.

It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has

alex94kumar said:
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It has been a fabulous 2 years, we'll still get 4.2 support, just unofficially

AOSP not supporting Xoom
No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)

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No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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The thing is, 2 years is actually...kind of a lot relative to the other first gen 10" tablets. The galaxy tab 10.1 took forever to get ICS and was put at EOL after that (back in June/July I think). Asus has handled the Transformer series pretty well; the OG Transformer received a timely ICS update and I believe was updated to 4.1, not sure if they're going past that. And finally the Acer A500 I think met a similar fate as the Galaxy tab, ending with 4.0.
So that puts the Xoom at one of 2 of the 4 Honeycomb tablets circa 2011 (were there any other notables?) that made it all the way to 4.1. Not too shabby.

Not shabby at all. A shame though that the reason for not supporting is a time limit instead of a hardware thing.
Phones changed a lot since nexus one to ICS
Not much changed hardware wise since Xoom and now IMO
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.

bigrushdog said:
As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?

Just found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997434 that the system partition on the Xoom is rather small-could this be the reason that Xoom fell from AOSP support and didn't get all of the JB features?
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Muffycheeks said:
So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
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