So...today Jelly Bean was accidentally outed on the Google Play Store as Android 4.1. If you added a Galaxy Nexus to your cart, the line item read "Soon to be the first phone with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean"
Obviously we are all expecting the new Nexus tablet to be unveiled at Google I/O. With that in mind, adding to it the fact that the VZW Xoom will reach 18 months in August and the WiFi Xoom in October, what say ye? Do we stand a chance of getting Jelly Bean on the Xoom?
I personally say yes since JB is just a point release. I'm sure WiFi will get it first followed by VZW a month or two later. If the Xoom gets JB however, I would be shocked if it received the next major release (5.0).
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Unless Google changes something dramatically like they did from Gingerbread/honeycomb to ICS, I would think the community will be able to get it running quite easily. However, I'm doubting anything farther than 4.1 will be official.
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Hopefully, havent had an update for my xoom in a long time!
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I think the chances of officialness is fairly decent, and even still, it'll be open source and the Xoom specs are still decent, it won't be hard to get it running. I even think the the next update could be official. HTC still give official updates the the Desire HD (Inspire 4G I think) and that's over 2 years old but still a decent device
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Hopefully this Xoom will be updated to jellybean should be easy since this device is stock ICS.
Motorola hasn't yet updated to ICS and you ask for Jelly Bean?????
EMEA Wifi + 3g Xoom haven't yet got ICS.
They will need at least two years.
What a mistake buying a product from usa manufacturer......never ever again.....
Xoom WIFI hopefully will be updated. It has received updates in a timely matter. If not the community will address the update.
I'm talking about the US version, where the Xoom runs stock ICS and gets updates straight from Google. The international versions have Motorola customizations and obviously, updates come from Motorola rather than Google. You guys are probably screwed.
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Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
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1:11 p.m.: Jelly Bean will be available to the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S and Motorola Xoom starting in mid July.
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http://content.usatoday.com/communi...log-googles-io-keynote-address/1#.T-s_afXud8E
More importantly, the Jelly Bean SDK is available today.
So happen I still have my xoom... Jelly is coming in July... I can't wait....
Who cares about what Motorola does? We have some awesome developers who fixed ICS to us european users.
Forget ICS! Jelly Bean is looking very impressive! Love the offline Voice to Text function. And the Voice Google Search is really nice.
Google+ for tablets today and Jelly Bean in a few weeks. Exciting day for my Xoom.
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Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
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http://content.usatoday.com/communi...log-googles-io-keynote-address/1#.T-s_afXud8E
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Yeah, gizmodo reported the same thing: http://gizmodo.com/5921713/android-jelly-beans-new-features
So, one thing that didn't seem clear... the Nexus 7 is obviously designed to be held like a phone (portrait mode)... so the decision to still have it default to a tablet like interface in apps (larger screen) yet still retain the phone like UI layout makes sense... But what about for landscape style 10 inch tablets like the Xoom? Are we going to see the honeycomb like interface disappear and be replaced with the jelly bean launcher at the bottom / notification bar at the top?
That would be a mistake. I use the Xoom with almost entirely widgets. The large screen is conducive to quickly scanning content in widgets. Mail, News Reader, Calender, etc. without even opening the app.
But that new Google+ for tablets is definitely landscape mode.
I think it would be a mistake too... but it seems they are trying to unify the interface between the two even more... I hope not...
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Tell that to Director of Product Managment, Hugo Barra. He said it.
ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Clearly you don't get it. The original Xoom is a Google Experience Device in the USA. It's like a Nexus tablet without carrying the Nexus name. It runs stock Android and updates come from Google. The Xoom 2 is NOT a Google Experience device, therefore it runs a customized firmware done by Motorola and updated by Motorola.
You're comparing apples to trucks.
The U.S. WiFi-only and Verizon 3/4G Xoom models will get Jelly Bean. As for international Xooms, who knows. The Xoom 2 isn't part of this discussion.
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Let's wait and watch.
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/16/android-5-0-jelly-bean-could-launch-as-early-as-this-summer-rumor/
I really wouldn't really be too surprised if we did see Android Jelly Bean in the Summer, but more towards the end, say July or August time. There are already rumours of an Android 4.1 floating around as well.
Not sure about the whole booting into Chrome OS thing, that'd be like Google shooting down a whole market it's looking to tackle Ultrabooks with. Why buy an Android tablet AND have a Chrome book when you can have both. Though I doubt people would buy both anyway ha ha. Although, an Asus Transformer that docked to Chrome OS would be cool.
Perhaps we'll see this released alongside the fabled "Nexus Tablet" said to be coming, which I would absolutely love to see.
Cheers for sharing
Is Google going to forget me. My 9020a would love an official ICS. It would be neat to see some 5.0 out there though.
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Wow... amazing!! but...I think rumor is just rumor
And all of sudden, I want Jelly Bean' UI is violet!!
Goggle shouldn't release it until 2013 in my opinion.
I think that to roll out a big update in less than a year is bad for android. The time that Google started to have one OS on all devices (mobiles and tablets) with ICS will probably lose this if the android 5.0 Jelly Beam role out so fast.
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I think that to roll out a big update in less than a year is bad for android. The time that Google started to have one OS on all devices (mobiles and tablets) with ICS will probably lose this if the android 5.0 Jelly Beam role out so fast.
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This summer sounds about right. Based on them taking about 6 months after releasing ICS to get it to the Nexus devices and probably another 6 months before other manufacturers start using it. That means if they announce JB this summer, towards the end of 2013 is when you will really see devices for it.
Fake. Hopefully
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Fake. Hopefully
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It makes sense that they will announce it this summer. When it actually ships, who knows. But they usually announce it months before release to give developers time to work with the api.
What if it's half true, 4.1 that's sound more like it
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Looks like the launch of Jelly Bean is around the corner, coming to Galaxy Nexus shortly, read this: http://www.androidcentral.com/android-41-jelly-bean-outed-google-play-store-listing-coming-soon-galaxy-nexus
If this is the case, I think it is reasonable to assume the upcoming Asus Nexus 7 tablet will be launched with Jelly Bean as well. With an Asus tablet being the first with Jelly Bean, I can't see the transformer family being that far behind. Pretty psyched, good chance we could have Jelly bean in month or two!
EDIT: New development, Nexus 7 tablet details leak online here http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/06/this-is-googles-new-nexus-tablet-the-nexus-7/ The Nexus 7 will run Jelly Bean and will hit Australia (Australian leak) in July with 8gb version at US$199 and 16gb version US$249.
How about Jelly Bean for our device by the end of August .
I wonder what's new in it. Probably not a huge update but still must be big.
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Nschneider7 said:
I wonder what's new in it. Probably not a huge update but still must be big.
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Pretty much this.
I guess bug fixes, security updates, better battery life, all the standard stuff. Wonder if anything will be a major update.
10010110 said:
Pretty much this.
I guess bug fixes, security updates, better battery life, all the standard stuff. Wonder if anything will be a major update.
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Better battery life would be great. I have having to keep 4g off most the time on my Gnex.
Hopefully some good stuff will come out at Google I/O
That would be cool iam looking forward to jellybean. It will be a while before the transformers get it..
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That would be cool iam looking forward to jellybean. It will be a while before the transformers get it..
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I'm fairly confident that like with ICS it'll be ported very quickly, lots of TF users around
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Better battery life would be great. I have having to keep 4g off most the time on my Gnex.
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Odd I've never had turn disable LTE on my RAZR MAXX.
On a more serious note except for whichever 2.x version introduced the dalvik cache I can't recall any major OMG I needed this feature added. Each update was progressively better but nothing like Gingerbread to ICS.
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I think that the updating will not come before the end of the year
Processors are differents, even if it's Tegra 3 belongs.
There is a Kai version (ASUS Google 7) and a version Kal-El (Prime- TF300T - Infinity HD)
I hope to make a mistake about the updatings
I am looking forward to this, and the logic seems pretty good that we will get it fairly quickly after release.
Things i am expecting from google IO
various bug fixes and increase performance/stability increases
offline maps
new 3d views of cities in Maps
a siri like application (hopefully with even more functionality)
what i would love
i know it is minor, but would love some new wallpapers (current ones are ugly IMO)
ability to add buttons to nav bar
search button in notification "dropdown/ pull up"
HD contact picture syncing support
some new camera features
maybe some browser enhancements (make it as fast/smooth at chrome but keeping the look and functionality of the stock browser (quick controls, FLASH))
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I think that the updating will not come before the end of the year
Processors are differents, even if it's Tegra 3 belongs.
There is a Kai version (ASUS Google 7) and a version Kal-El (Prime- TF300T - Infinity HD)
I hope to make a mistake about the updatings
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Yes, but your logic has the assumption that Asus worked in a bubble developing the Nexus Tablet. I wouldn't be surprised if parallel work was be being done on integrating Jelly Bean with other tablets for updates . This is all speculation at this point and only time will tell.
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Yes, but your logic has the assumption that Asus worked in a bubble developing the Nexus Tablet. I wouldn't be surprised if parallel work was be being done on integrating Jelly Bean with other tablets for updates . This is all speculation at this point and only time will tell.
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Indeed, it's just some speculations. I'm not sure of that.
But Asus is one of the few manufacturers to properly follow the updates of its devices
That's why I spoke about this long time. It's really nice, if it's short
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Odd I've never had turn disable LTE on my RAZR MAXX.
On a more serious note except for whichever 2.x version introduced the dalvik cache I can't recall any major OMG I needed this feature added. Each update was progressively better but nothing like Gingerbread to ICS.
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Well I think you have a much better battery than the Nexus.
OP updated with key new development.
Anyone believe we get this? any talk anywhere of what this might beam for legacy (GED/Nexus) devices? Im pretty sure it was in some server logs.
I would assume it would be late Nov/possibly not even till January for that to happen.
Considering its an incremental update, we're only just approaching 2 years of age and I doubt there will be any major changes that would preclude the Xoom from handling it, yeah I think we'll get an official update.
I'm excited to see this Nexus 10 though. It will be the proper successor to the Xoom; the successor we deserve.
More than likely will receive, though as noticed in JB and even some parts of ICS, we didn't get all of the features bestowed upon the products bearing the Nexus name. There is ( in my opinion) a defining line between "Nexus" and "Google Experience Device".
Xoom will likely handle all 4.x iterations of Android, but would not expect to reach 5. All depends on hardware requirements and coding to accommodate older and newer.
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More than likely will receive, though as noticed in JB and even some parts of ICS, we didn't get all of the features bestowed upon the products bearing the Nexus name.
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Like what?
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Face unlock
JB stock wallpapers
New X (Nexus) boot animation
Sound Search widget (Google ears)
Single finger expandable notifications with 4.1.2
These are the top omissions that come to mind on the Xoom, there may be others.
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Face unlock
JB stock wallpapers
New X (Nexus) boot animation
Sound Search widget (Google ears)
Single finger expandable notifications with 4.1.2
These are the top omissions that come to mind on the Xoom, there may be others.
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didn't we get sound search widget? was it removed in 4.1.1? I thought I had it at one point (maybe I sideloaded, IDK)
also didn't realize we missed so many features (not gonna include wallpapers/screen boot though)
forgive my lack of knowledge, but do we need an updated kernel for these updates?
The Jellybean wallpapers change with the dpi. At its stock you get the old ics wallpapers, but if you change it to say the dpi to that of the nexus 7, you then have access to the new wallpapers.
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Face unlock
JB stock wallpapers
New X (Nexus) boot animation
Sound Search widget (Google ears)
Single finger expandable notifications with 4.1.2
These are the top omissions that come to mind on the Xoom, there may be others.
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None of those things were removed/omitted because the Xoom can't handle it though. I think some were just overlooked and some are just not practical (face unlock - we used to have it and it was stupid on a 10" device).
I have sound search widget on my Xoom (albeit not stock - is this not included in stock?). JB wallpapers and boot animation, well those are easily added and the Nexus animation was probably not added because the Xoom is not a Nexus by name. The only one that is significant (i.e. not easily added by the user) is the single finger expandable notifications and I would definitely like to see that but oh well.
I needs me some Project Butter on my 4G Xoom
Google had submitted the JRO03H 4.1.1 ROM to Verizon for testing (it was leaked here back in early August), but now that 4.1.2 has come out, I'm sure Verizon is testing that ROM now. On Motorola's official update page, it lists the VZW Xoom as getting Jelly Bean Q4 of this year, so it should be any time now...unless they're just going to wait for 4.2, then submit THAT for testing and have it be our official JB update...which means longer waiting. Ugh.
Owning a Verizon Xoom and Galaxy Nexus is very frustrating from an update standpoint. Updates direct from Google, but only after Verizon tests the ROMs and approves it for rollout. If only Verizon's network wasn't so goddamn awesome and the LTE so freakin' fast.
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If only Verizon's network wasn't so goddamn awesome and the LTE so freakin' fast.
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Awesome reliability, but my Nexus switches back and forth between 3G and LTE so often, its not worth keeping the LTE on. As soon as I get two LTE bars, it tries to switch to 3G. Freaking stupid Nexus radios
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Awesome reliability, but my Nexus switches back and forth between 3G and LTE so often, its not worth keeping the LTE on. As soon as I get two LTE bars, it tries to switch to 3G. Freaking stupid Nexus radios
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Yeah, even on Nexus devices, the radio firmware is the one thing that the OEM still handles. Samsung has had one hell of a time trying to get those Galaxy Nexus radios working right.
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None of those things were removed/omitted because the Xoom can't handle it though. I think some were just overlooked and some are just not practical (face unlock - we used to have it and it was stupid on a 10" device).
I have sound search widget on my Xoom (albeit not stock - is this not included in stock?). JB wallpapers and boot animation, well those are easily added and the Nexus animation was probably not added because the Xoom is not a Nexus by name. The only one that is significant (i.e. not easily added by the user) is the single finger expandable notifications and I would definitely like to see that but oh well.
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I've never seen face unlock on the Xoom. Was this in Honeycomb? When I got my Xoom earlier this year I let it update successively to 4.0.4, and never saw face unlock. Why was it stupid on a 10 inch device - it still does its function, correct?
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I've never seen face unlock on the Xoom. Was this in Honeycomb? When I got my Xoom earlier this year I let it update successively to 4.0.4, and never saw face unlock. Why was it stupid on a 10 inch device - it still does its function, correct?
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No, no stock ROM for the Xoom has ever had face unlock. Some of the custom ROM developers included it and it works OK, but definitely not as good as it does on the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 7.
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I've never seen face unlock on the Xoom. Was this in Honeycomb? When I got my Xoom earlier this year I let it update successively to 4.0.4, and never saw face unlock. Why was it stupid on a 10 inch device - it still does its function, correct?
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Ah thats correct, face unlock never came to stock. As someone else said, custom roms had it but it was removed. I remember using it on my Xoom and it just wasn't practical with a 10" device.
How come 4.2 will still be JB? 4.0 Was ICS, 4.1 was JB ..
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How come 4.2 will still be JB? 4.0 Was ICS, 4.1 was JB ..
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It has happened before. 2.0 and 2.1 were both Eclair.
Personally, I'd prefer it if they saved name changes for X changes where version is X.Y.Z
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Personally, I'd prefer it if they saved name changes for X changes where version is X.Y.Z
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The rate at which Android evolves, this would be a perfect way to move forward and create less Confusion.
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We can as xoom owners look at ourselves and think yeah they will give us 4.2 but I think the xooms death for updates is looming. The nexus.10 is rumored and.that will almost certainly.replace the xoom if real for updates and as a product. We have had ics and jb now and if you look at other devices we have got our fair share of updates. I dont think.we will get 4.2 officially.
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According to Jean-Baptiste Queru of the AOSP, the xoom and nexus aren't supported.... "There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2."
later, he says he cannot comment on the future of those devices. What does this mean for us?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951841
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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joshndroid said:
Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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I think they're working on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885269
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unofficialy it will eventually come and it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it...it's not a big jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2
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it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
The one feature from 4.2 that I really wanted is multi user support. It was an obvious omission from tablets right from the beginning.
What are the chances of fully activating this feature in 4.1.2, seeing as it already has the underpinnings under the surface?
Yes, it's sad, but those that say it's a "marketing ploy" just need to realize how old the Xoom is and how much work it takes to port these new releases to devices. Money doesn't grow on trees, and neither do man-hours. Once the 4.2 branch started happening and the Nexus 10 hardware was finalized it became Google's standard 10-inch tablet internally. The guys who would have been doing the port internally in Google probably have N10s on their desks and their Xooms are collecting dust in some drawer. That's the way the world works.
That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
Either way, if it doesn't hit AOSP, I'll either sell it to get some dough for a N10 (my mom has been talking about buying it from me) or lend my support to the porting process during the holiday break. The multi-user mode in 4.2 would be very useful on the Xoom.
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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Thats a bit of a hostile response, don't you think?
And if by "core," you're referring to the SoC, yeah it kinda does matter. The tegra 2 is a tad outdated, its architecture being a big part of it (A9). The Tegra 3 was a nice upgrade on Nvidia's part, with the Samsung Exynos 5 being even better than that. I'm sure someone with even more technical expertise could explain more in detail on the differences, but the architecture itself is a good indicator.
Now on to personal experience. I've put my Xoom alongside a Nexus 7 and my Galaxy Nexus, all running 4.1.2 and yeah, the Xoom is noticeably slower. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10's performance in person. No one here is saying the Xoom is **** or slow or whatever. But it is, gasp, slower than devices with hardware that is fresh and not 2 years old. Newer technology is better, who knew?
So yeah...no offense but given the delightful way you went about disagreeing with me, I'd say you were projecting just a tad.
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That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
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The difference with those instances and now is that the Xoom was projected to get all of those, it just took a bit of time for it to hit AOSP. According to the google groups statement, the Xoom is slated to stay on 4.1.2 (I forget the actual quote). Now of course, that could mean, as you say, that it might just be a while for it to hit AOSP, but I think that's being a bit hopeful. Hopefully we'll get an official word on it soon but I think thats about it, at least with regards to AOSP.
And honestly, the Xoom had 18+ months of official support. For those that remember, 18 months was what Google wanted manufacturers under the Android Update Alliance to go by for supporting devices. So they've met their own target and then some with regards to both the Xoom and the Nexus S.
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It has been a fabulous 2 years, we'll still get 4.2 support, just unofficially
AOSP not supporting Xoom
No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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The thing is, 2 years is actually...kind of a lot relative to the other first gen 10" tablets. The galaxy tab 10.1 took forever to get ICS and was put at EOL after that (back in June/July I think). Asus has handled the Transformer series pretty well; the OG Transformer received a timely ICS update and I believe was updated to 4.1, not sure if they're going past that. And finally the Acer A500 I think met a similar fate as the Galaxy tab, ending with 4.0.
So that puts the Xoom at one of 2 of the 4 Honeycomb tablets circa 2011 (were there any other notables?) that made it all the way to 4.1. Not too shabby.
Not shabby at all. A shame though that the reason for not supporting is a time limit instead of a hardware thing.
Phones changed a lot since nexus one to ICS
Not much changed hardware wise since Xoom and now IMO
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
Just found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997434 that the system partition on the Xoom is rather small-could this be the reason that Xoom fell from AOSP support and didn't get all of the JB features?
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
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After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.
Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...
Chaosgod27 said:
Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...
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It dosen't matter which XOOM you have, all of them should be updatet http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-partners-with-oems-and-carriers-to-guarantee-android-upda/
Google handled the Xoom. Xoom 2 and all those other nonsense locked bootloader tabs are Moto's responsibility. Can't change it not but you'll buy a GED like the Xoom in the future I'm sure.
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After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.
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That makes two of us!!!
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Same with me. Additionaly xoom2 608 us giving me problems like crashes, frequently stops responding etc. I use stock rom no root just few apps. Never again moto.
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I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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big ach said:
I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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Common sense?
I feel for all you guys who, like me, are bitterly disappointed by Moto's lack of updates for the Xoom 2, and the seemingly pointless hope that there will ever be custom ROMs for this device.
I purchased my Xoom 2 over a year ago, and had to wait an eternity for the update from HC to ICS. I shouldn't have bothered waiting. I'm not a dev, so I don't know the intricate details of the Android workings....all I can say is that, in my opinion, the stock ROM is utter, utter, monumental rubbish!
My tab is laggy, unstable and generally unpleasant to use on a daily basis. In fact, it's been lying in my bag for about 2 weeks with a flat battery, and I can't even be bothered to charge it.
I now have a complete loathing for anything Moto, and I will never recommend a Moto device to anyone.
I saw some posts some time ago, which said that Moto took an eternity to release ICS because they wanted to make it "stable" and "bug free"....FAIL! It still has problems with the browser randomly closing while mid session, and as mentioned before, it's painfully laggy.
I'm going to try a complete wipe and factory reset to see if I can salvage the £300+ I spent on this POS, but I'm not feeling optimistic.
If anyone has any suggestions, then I would be grateful to hear them.....please don't suggest selling it, I'm seriously debating that now LOL
Good luck guys...and thanks for nothing Moto
The Android Update Alliance was dead on arrival. None of the OEMs stuck to it and no one apparently took it seriously.
Its a real shame that OEMS fail to support products properly and its one of the biggest reasons ill be sticking to Nexus devices in the future.
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^Pretty much even I don't remember the promise...
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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big ach said:
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.
jimboogly said:
So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.
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I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.
big ach said:
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.
Cubanluke88 said:
I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.
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Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean. 18 months was up in October 2012. I'd say we got all that we could, particularly since the Xoom had a really small system partition from the start. Fortunately there are some great developers making 4.2.1 work near flawlessly on the Xoom.
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The thing about the Xoom is that each step, from 3.x to 4.0 and 4.0 to 4.1, it saw MAJOR improvements. Honeycomb was just genuinely bad, no surprise there as it was essentially a closed beta. ICS unified 2.3 and 3.x. For users that went straight from 2.3 to 4.0 (i.e. most phones that upgraded), they didn't really see a very large performance upgrade. But for users on 3.x like us, it was HUGE. I remember when it came out. It gave the tablet new life. Conversely I remember a lot of phone users being irritated by it because of the huge UI change (and very little, if any perceivable performance upgrade, as 2.3 was already a reasonably stable OS).
And then 4.1 introduced project butter which improved performance across the board and again, new life in our aging device.
I'd like to say that 24 months should be the standard, but really with how fast hardware improves and with a new Android release roughly twice a year, I can understand the 18 month policy.
It did the Xoom wonders. If you didn't experience it much or don't recall, flash back to a 3.x rom. That **** was just bad. I'm pretty content with my Xoom staying on 4.1 for the foreseeable future.
The LTE Xoom remains a tragedy (though mine is still chugging along) and it is the MAIN reason the Google merger and all of this banter about a Motorola X phone doesn't mean crap to me.
I hold Motorola and Google (and Verizon) responsible for this lie of a tablet. No official Jelly Bean is pathetic. Truly pathetic.
I can't wait to get a Note.
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sbrownla said:
I can't wait to get a Note.
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Good luck. Samsung and other OEMs are no better when it comes to updates (except maybe Asus and Acer).
For instance, Samsung abandoned the 2011 galaxy tab 10.1 at Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0).
Updates, updates, updates...it's all you generally hear on these forums. Don't forget the only way anyone makes any money in Androidville is through HARDWARE. If Moto or whoever update Xoom2 to current Android version, how are they gonna sell Xoom3 and Xoom4 and Xoom X or whatever they're going to call it?
Honestly, think about how these people make money and it's a no brainer. I got a Xoom as I knew it was a GED and got WI-Fi as the GSM/CDMA/LTE versions never get updates (historically). But at the end of the day you make the decision to buy the hardware knowing that in 2 yrs the HARDWARE won't be able to keep up anyway and will have to be replaced (Xoom getting bit long in the tooth now but is suprisingly robust IMHO).
If you get updates for all of eternity then what motivation do you have to purchase a new device?