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It's July already...where is Gingebread?!

Motorola are a bunch of SOB. They do this with EVERY major phone they release and it REALLY pisses me off Is it so hard to say something and then commit to it? Specially when Gingerbread has already been released for other Motorola models with a very similar configuration to the Atrix. It's very very frustrating having a phone like the Atrix that doesn't live to it's full potential due to poor build implementation. Is Motorola that stupid not to realize that once gingerbread hits the Atrix it will sell more and people will be happier with their product?!

You think motorola don't want to update all phones first of all the other companies?
The more fastest updates, the more developers/money they need..
Why they unlocked the bootloader?
To get more people to atrix...
And why before a couple of weeks..
To earn some time, and keep us busy and satisfied, to forget the upcoming update!!
Anyway.. Can't wait too for the update..
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Wait until July 31st then you are able to be annoyed. Its only the 7th. Settle down
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waiting too
I'm starting to to get anxious about the about update too. My wife's 7in Galaxy Tab (Sprint model) is getting Gingerbread this week, why not my Atrix.

As a person that owned 3 Motorola android phones - their update policies really piss me off.
They took forever to bring Froyo to Milestone, and still their final release contained a crappy kernel with error.
Now they are taking forever with GB for D2G and Atrix... If they don't keep their promise with unlocked bootloaders, this surely will be my last Motorola phone.

If my memory serves me right it was supposed to be the 11th. July when we got the update, so I for one will wait till at least the 12th. before I start moaning.

rawfa said:
Motorola are a bunch of SOB. They do this with EVERY major phone they release and it REALLY pisses me off Is it so hard to say something and then commit to it? Specially when Gingerbread has already been released for other Motorola models with a very similar configuration to the Atrix. It's very very frustrating having a phone like the Atrix that doesn't live to it's full potential due to poor build implementation. Is Motorola that stupid not to realize that once gingerbread hits the Atrix it will sell more and people will be happier with their product?!
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FYI, It's only July 7th, and a few days ago was a weekend and holiday. We are technically only 3 business days into July. Be patient.

You can always flash the leaked 2.3.4 build if you really can't bear to wait for the update.

to be honest, i can stand to wait a little longer so long as gingerbread is bug free.
the only thing i really want is a smoother browser. my last phone was a nokia n900, had that thing overclocked to 1.2ghz. whilst flash videos werent that great since it didnt really support flash 10 (no gpu accel), its browser was much faster and smoother.
sure you can argue that the atrix can render more pixels on the screen at any given time, but whats the point if its not smooth.
i also want to see if motorola have optimised motoblur. if its smoother, then i'll leave it as is. if not, im flashing this thing.

rawfa said:
Motorola are a bunch of SOB. They do this with EVERY major phone they release and it REALLY pisses me off Is it so hard to say something and then commit to it? Specially when Gingerbread has already been released for other Motorola models with a very similar configuration to the Atrix. It's very very frustrating having a phone like the Atrix that doesn't live to it's full potential due to poor build implementation. Is Motorola that stupid not to realize that once gingerbread hits the Atrix it will sell more and people will be happier with their product?!
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You bought the phone with Froyo, knowing it had Froyo, knowing it did not have GB, and Motorola has not said anything about a July release of GB. There has been mention in the past week or so on the Motorola boards of an upcoming soak test, that is all. Anything you read on other sites about release in July or any other time is pure speculation.
It doesn't matter which other devices have GB, the Atrix doesn't. Do you realise how much time it takes to develop, test, test, test these operating systems? Companies are not like the devs on the board here. They have procedures to follow, both internal and external. They quality test before releasing anything, hardware or software, then test some more.
I am sure Motorola does not want to release a buggy GB and are trying their best to give us a release which works as well as possible, so chill out and get off your high horse. Rome wasn't built in a day, and the world won't end if we have to wait a wee bit longer for GB on the Atrix.

Lol calm down its still pretty early. They never stated exactly when in july. Hopefully soon tho!
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it's only the first week in july. I wouldn't expect it until the last week of the month. If at all.
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I know this doesn't make things any better, but I don't Motorola every promised anything more than "Later this year". July was mostly what Kenneth inferred from his sources I believe.

JxWayne89 said:
Lol calm down its still pretty early. They never stated exactly when in july. Hopefully soon tho!
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Motorola has NEVER given any release date, month, etc.
Briefmobile said July. That is all.

If it dont come im going to trade my atrix for a mytouch4g slide, cant stay with this anymore... i had to develop things i wanted to my dext, dont want to suffer all over again with the atrix...

CaelanT, they said "in july we're releasing gb to the public" briefmode just posted this, but i heard of the CEO himself in a expo i went.

I'm about to stick to my Nexus if they don't hurry. ;(
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I would say hold the tantrum for August 1st. Then I'll be right there with ya.
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I would say since there is no official word from Motorola other than by the end of the year I would say come Jan 1st 2012 if it's not out then complain. I am looking forward to the release of GB just as much as the next Atrix owner but come on people learn a little patience. As the saying goes "Good things come to those who wait."

MdX MaxX said:
You can always flash the leaked 2.3.4 build if you really can't bear to wait for the update.
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This is only for unlocked bootloaders (AT&T phones), in case you haven't noticed we're from Brazil and we still have locked phones (along with all other countries/operators).
PS: I'm really sick of people who thinks Atrix is only sold on USA/AT&T or that we are a minority

Droid RAZR to get Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich on June 12

It’s always a pleasure to be the bearer of good news, especially when it comes to sharing with people what we know about an impending arrival of Ice Cream Sandwich on their Android devices. But before we do, we just want to make sure you know that this hasn’t been fully confirmed yet by Verizon. With that in mind, owners of Motorola Droid RAZR may want to mark down June 12 on their calendar, as that’s the date that Verizon apparently will roll out the ICS update for the two Droids.
According to internal sources quoted by CNET, the OTA update to Android 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich for both Droid RAZR and RAZR Maxx will be pushed out on June 12. While there were plans to bring it out earlier, there was an issue with the server that was supposed to deliver the update — hopefully that’s been dealt with now.
The June 12 date certainly still falls in line with what Motorola has written on its website, where the ICS upgrade roll out for Droid RAZR and RAZR Maxx is expected to start in Q2 2012. In this case, the end of the second quarter more like. As always, we’ll let you know once we have more details. Feel free to share with our readers if you have some information or heard otherwise about the ICS update for the Droid RAZR and Droid RAZR Maxx.
let's wish motorola atrix 4g will get it in early july
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My money is on late Q3 for Atrix. Likely September I think.
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What's up with all these threads on ICS for non-Atrix phones?
Motorola said Q2 for the Droid RAZR. Q2 is almost at an end. If that's any indication of future performance, ICS for the Atrix may not come until closer to Q4.

Maybe this is great new for us. That update might have something usefull for our devs. Of course, not drivers, but maybe our very first Blur ICS Rom. plus Webtop 3.0 (Tablet ICS). Idk, maybe im too positive Lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola decides to push it back in late Q4.

Atrix_Owner said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola decides to push it back in late Q4.
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I wouldn't be surprised if at&t blocks it all together to try to get people to buy there already ics enabled phones. Or if they dont have a selection to block it so people will hold out for the next newest thing they'll get.

I'm hoping we'll see the soak test at the end of July and OTA by August just like last year's Gingerbread update.

djluis48 said:
Maybe this is great new for us. That update might have something usefull for our devs. Of course, not drivers, but maybe our very first Blur ICS Rom. plus Webtop 3.0 (Tablet ICS). Idk, maybe im too positive Lol.
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We'd need a phone with a Tegra 2 chipset.
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i doubt, maybe atrix dont receive update now.

ruterjunior said:
i doubt, maybe atrix dont receive update now.
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Have you seen something to make you think this?
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d3athsd00r said:
Have you seen something to make you think this?
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Doubt it. It's typical data-free speculation from the glass-is-half-empty crowd.

MJPollard said:
Doubt it. It's typical data-free speculation from the glass-is-half-empty crowd.
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Is the glass half empty or half full?
To the Lean Engineer it's just too damned big!!!

Atrix_Owner said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola decides to push it back in late Q4.
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I still think late Q3/early Q4. IMO the carriers will be more to blame getting their bloat on there. Then again all it really takes is one carrier worldwide, and CM9 will truly be in full effect.
I could care less about stock anyway. Once CM pulls out what it needs, I'll be wiping my phone for some CM9 goodness...
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We'd need a phone with a Tegra 2 chipset.
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As i said, not for drivers, but maybe something from the gui or anything
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atrix does not suports??
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The European Atrix is not very likely going to get ICS - back in February they first marked it as coming in Q3 and then set it back to Evaluation & Planning.
So I wouldn´t be suprised if they cancel the Update for North America. See, the Atrix is 1.5 years old and although it still can be regarded as "High End", there are other, newer phones from Motorola in the pipeline. Call me glass-half-empty, I´m just realistic. Motorola, like any other company, has to make profit and shelling out money for an update for an outdated device (yes, it can be considered as such since there is already an Atrix 2) is just a service.
I still hope to see my Atrix rocking fully functional ICS, but I wouldn´t be suprised if it never happened.
Just my 2 cents

schwarzlichtkind said:
The European Atrix is not very likely going to get ICS - back in February they first marked it as coming in Q3 and then set it back to Evaluation & Planning.
So I wouldn´t be suprised if they cancel the Update for North America. See, the Atrix is 1.5 years old and although it still can be regarded as "High End", there are other, newer phones from Motorola in the pipeline. Call me glass-half-empty, I´m just realistic. Motorola, like any other company, has to make profit and shelling out money for an update for an outdated device (yes, it can be considered as such since there is already an Atrix 2) is just a service.
I still hope to see my Atrix rocking fully functional ICS, but I wouldn´t be suprised if it never happened.
Just my 2 cents
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I hear what your saying, but I think the update is more of a public relations move. Our phone was only 8 months old when ics came out. There was lots of negative feedback towards moto for the response time about ics. If they dropped support on a flagship phone they would lose customers indefinitely.
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They would certainly loose me...
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schwarzlichtkind said:
The European Atrix is not very likely going to get ICS - back in February they first marked it as coming in Q3 and then set it back to Evaluation & Planning.
So I wouldn´t be suprised if they cancel the Update for North America. See, the Atrix is 1.5 years old and although it still can be regarded as "High End", there are other, newer phones from Motorola in the pipeline. Call me glass-half-empty, I´m just realistic. Motorola, like any other company, has to make profit and shelling out money for an update for an outdated device (yes, it can be considered as such since there is already an Atrix 2) is just a service.
I still hope to see my Atrix rocking fully functional ICS, but I wouldn´t be suprised if it never happened.
Just my 2 cents
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This makes little sense.
If a customer sees that their device is "old" compared to others, and realizes that the issue is lack of support from Moto, the response will be to buy another brand of phone.
On the scale of things, it is not a big effort for Moto to release for other devices based on the same platform. I would imagine the true engineering effort is almost nothing, and the bottleneck is just getting it thorugh QA.
I would be very surprised to not see an AtrixG4 released in August.

DannyBiker said:
They would certainly loose me...
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They lost me already
I love my Atrix, and don't see any other device, for now, to replace to. However, I really doubt if I will buy another Moto device, with the only excepsion of a Moto-made Nexus. Moto's policy of locking the bootloaders, along with a very questionable updating history probably burned Moto's future for me, which is quite a shame since I really love their building quality and simple-and-non-cloned designs.

Prospects for Jelly Bean on the Xoom?

So...today Jelly Bean was accidentally outed on the Google Play Store as Android 4.1. If you added a Galaxy Nexus to your cart, the line item read "Soon to be the first phone with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean"
Obviously we are all expecting the new Nexus tablet to be unveiled at Google I/O. With that in mind, adding to it the fact that the VZW Xoom will reach 18 months in August and the WiFi Xoom in October, what say ye? Do we stand a chance of getting Jelly Bean on the Xoom?
I personally say yes since JB is just a point release. I'm sure WiFi will get it first followed by VZW a month or two later. If the Xoom gets JB however, I would be shocked if it received the next major release (5.0).
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Unless Google changes something dramatically like they did from Gingerbread/honeycomb to ICS, I would think the community will be able to get it running quite easily. However, I'm doubting anything farther than 4.1 will be official.
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Hopefully, havent had an update for my xoom in a long time!
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I think the chances of officialness is fairly decent, and even still, it'll be open source and the Xoom specs are still decent, it won't be hard to get it running. I even think the the next update could be official. HTC still give official updates the the Desire HD (Inspire 4G I think) and that's over 2 years old but still a decent device
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Hopefully this Xoom will be updated to jellybean should be easy since this device is stock ICS.

Motorola hasn't yet updated to ICS and you ask for Jelly Bean?????
EMEA Wifi + 3g Xoom haven't yet got ICS.
They will need at least two years.
What a mistake buying a product from usa manufacturer......never ever again.....

Xoom WIFI hopefully will be updated. It has received updates in a timely matter. If not the community will address the update.

I'm talking about the US version, where the Xoom runs stock ICS and gets updates straight from Google. The international versions have Motorola customizations and obviously, updates come from Motorola rather than Google. You guys are probably screwed.
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Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
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1:11 p.m.: Jelly Bean will be available to the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S and Motorola Xoom starting in mid July.
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More importantly, the Jelly Bean SDK is available today.

So happen I still have my xoom... Jelly is coming in July... I can't wait....

Who cares about what Motorola does? We have some awesome developers who fixed ICS to us european users.

Forget ICS! Jelly Bean is looking very impressive! Love the offline Voice to Text function. And the Voice Google Search is really nice.
Google+ for tablets today and Jelly Bean in a few weeks. Exciting day for my Xoom.

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Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
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Yeah, gizmodo reported the same thing: http://gizmodo.com/5921713/android-jelly-beans-new-features

So, one thing that didn't seem clear... the Nexus 7 is obviously designed to be held like a phone (portrait mode)... so the decision to still have it default to a tablet like interface in apps (larger screen) yet still retain the phone like UI layout makes sense... But what about for landscape style 10 inch tablets like the Xoom? Are we going to see the honeycomb like interface disappear and be replaced with the jelly bean launcher at the bottom / notification bar at the top?

That would be a mistake. I use the Xoom with almost entirely widgets. The large screen is conducive to quickly scanning content in widgets. Mail, News Reader, Calender, etc. without even opening the app.
But that new Google+ for tablets is definitely landscape mode.

I think it would be a mistake too... but it seems they are trying to unify the interface between the two even more... I hope not...

on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.

ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Tell that to Director of Product Managment, Hugo Barra. He said it.

ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Clearly you don't get it. The original Xoom is a Google Experience Device in the USA. It's like a Nexus tablet without carrying the Nexus name. It runs stock Android and updates come from Google. The Xoom 2 is NOT a Google Experience device, therefore it runs a customized firmware done by Motorola and updated by Motorola.
You're comparing apples to trucks.
The U.S. WiFi-only and Verizon 3/4G Xoom models will get Jelly Bean. As for international Xooms, who knows. The Xoom 2 isn't part of this discussion.

[Q] Chances we will get Jelly Bean?

Chances we will get Jelly Bean on the Eee Pad Transformer?

very high

I'm hoping there's a good chance for JB. As a TF101 owner, they basically have a good record updating our OS's, so I'm guessing we might get it in 3-6 months. (yes i said 6).

what25 said:
I'm hoping there's a good chance for JB. As a TF101 owner, they basically have a good record updating our OS's, so I'm guessing we might get it in 3-6 months. (yes i said 6).
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Well we also have aosp roms like CM and AOPK and the release cycle on that (alpha's anyways) is only about 2-3 months

I read somewhere that ASUS only guaranteed an update for 18 months from first say of TF101.

coolface said:
I read somewhere that ASUS only guaranteed an update for 18 months from first say of TF101.
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launched end of may / beginning of april last year so we still have some time

Yeah till at least Christmas I hope But if Cm9 (Or cm10???) gets it so will we.

Base on the TF101 spec.. it more than capable of handling JellyBean. And Asus know this too.. unless they play this marketing over bussiness game on us and indirectly forcing Asus loyalties to buy their new range of upcoming devices with JellyBean ready. Will wait and see what in Asus future pipeline in store for us by 3rd quarter in the calander year.

TF101 is still a current model, it's still for sale by Asus, and therefore will be part of their 18month support agreement (which only starts when the product is discontinued).
With this, and the fact that Asus have been working with Google on the Nexus7 and will have had access to the Jellybean source for quite a few months, and the fact that ICS still isn't 100% stable on the TF101, i think it's pretty much a given that it will happen.
Not that I care, as mines a BO50 and totally unlocked to flash what I want, so can go CM10 if I want, but it would be nice if Asus supported it.

JB isn't going to be released from Google until thanksgiving (from what I've read) so if we get it at all it wont be until after the first of the year. remember Asus now has the slider, the Prime and now the tf301. i am sure they will have others by then as well. those devices will get updated first just because they are newer and it will be at least 2 month per device for each update to make sure they have a stable release. so don't hold your breath, IMHO.
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The only reason I hope/think we will get it because asus is a great company. I just wish they made a phone other than padfone (regular smartphone) and I would buy that soooo fast.
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ICS has VERY poor install rate. Even since the source code release most new devices released have still used Gingerbread. Honeycomb and ICS were both rushed. I think most devices will end up skipping ICS and move straight to Jellybean.
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6 months? Hell, I hope to have a tablet running Win8 by then.

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ICS has VERY poor install rate.
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That's what the Android hating Apple sites would have you think. Wait until you see the Google pie-chart next time around.
I know all the 2011 Xperias are now ICS, the 2012 Xperia S, with the others hot on their heels, wast swathes of HTC phones from 2011/2012, along with Moto, Samsung Note/Tabs, The Transformer range.
There isn't a whole lot from the last 18 months that's not got it yet, or not due it in the coming weeks.
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6 months? Hell, I hope to have a tablet running Win8 by then.
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Really? You do know they don't run Windows apps right?
Nobody that's got a techbrain and equiped with the facts wants a Windows 8 tablet.

Watching the live stream now - source for JB is going to be mid July, so I don't think it will be TOO long before someone gives us JB - either Asus or CM or someone..

Yes I watched as well, SDK available today, Source Mid July, PDK available today (we don't qualify most likely unless someone wants to get into the hardware business). Available on current nexus devices by mid-July, and the Xoom I think I heard. I am really hopefully that our first gen Transformers get this because it will likely be the last update my tablet sees before it is upgraded some time next year. (2 year cycle on tablets and phones, phone already done this year now I just have to wait patiently till next year for a new tablet ;-) )
The Google Now and the new notification features is what really has me interested.

are we loosing the tablet ui? or is it because its 7 inches? it would be kinda awkward on the 10inch screen

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That's what the Android hating Apple sites would have you think. Wait until you see the Google pie-chart next time around.
I know all the 2011 Xperias are now ICS, the 2012 Xperia S, with the others hot on their heels, wast swathes of HTC phones from 2011/2012, along with Moto, Samsung Note/Tabs, The Transformer range.
There isn't a whole lot from the last 18 months that's not got it yet, or not due it in the coming weeks.
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Really? You do know they don't run Windows apps right?
Nobody that's got a techbrain and equiped with the facts wants a Windows 8 tablet.
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I can't do anything productive with Android like use MS Office. NONE of the Android office suites do what I need them to do. So Microsoft is going to put Win8 on a tablet but you are not going to be able to use office. I don't think so.

The AOSP branches will probably see JellyBean versions coming out relatively soon after source code is released. As far as official JellyBean support from Asus... I'd say don't get your hopes up, and for sure don't count on it..

Motorola upgrade timeline, several ICS updates delayed

While Motorola may have promised Jelly Bean updates for their most recently launched RAZR devices, for other Moto owners life isn't so peachy on the update front. The device software upgrade page has been updated, and it isn't going to make happy reading for some.
The Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 now read as "further plans coming soon," having previously been pegged to update to ICS in Q3. The Xyboard 8.2 and Xoom Family Edition are also in the same boat, only the pair of tablets are still provided with a date sometime in Q4. Also slipping into the Q4 category is the DROID Bionic.
We previously reported that devices such as the DROID 3 would remain on Gingerbread, and one has to only hope that the same isn't about to be said of some of these. The Atrix 2 isn't even a year old, so to see it left languishing in a pre-ICS world would be a sorry sight. Slipping dates leave us feeling less doomsday, yet still with a slightly ominous feeling. If Moto is already talking the Jelly Bean talk, one does have to wonder where some of these ICS updates are hiding.
Of course, there is always the promise of a $100 credit towards a new Motorola phone should your 2011 onwards device not get updated to Jelly Bean. So don't go throwing away that Atrix 2 just yet.
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I can't believe it! I just bought my ATRIX 4G thinking it would have ICS!

Hey, if you think that's bad, the Canadian one won't get it at all!

I read a article on AndroidPolice which said that at Motorola Event, they announced that Atrix 2 and anything before that phone will not receive ICS update Sucks balls

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I read a article on AndroidPolice which said that at Motorola Event, they announced that Atrix 2 and anything before that phone will not receive ICS update Sucks balls
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Link, please?

This is so depressing! Only Canada's Atrix was listed to stay on Gingerbread?!

so erm... when are we getting the 100$? since we all know that were not getting JB

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They can't meet the dateline so they move the goal post again. Enjoy the waiting game.

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