Hi guys,
Hardware I understand a bit, hence me salvaging an HD2 from work (mine with broken screen + a waterdamaged one = working one after some hours work, I got to keep it when leaving the company ).
But now I want to replace WM6.5 with Android.
I just came across a link that talked about dual booting.
But I am in WAY over my head here. Half the terms in that link mean nothing to me (cLK NAND vs. Magldr NAND? what's nativeSD? what's EXT4?)
On average I read at least an hour a day on all kinds of subjects (electronics, cars/motorcycles, engines, networks, politics, construction, legal stuff, etc.), so I really DO try, but I simply cannot hack it to understand it all to a level where I get to play with the big boys... And in many cases not even with the medium boys (like in here...)
I have spend a few hours already on here reading up on Android, but don't even know for sure if I have read the most recent threads (one thing I remember is that the camera is still not working, there must be versions where this is fixed?)
So, now that I have felt sorry for myself long enough, here's some questions:
Can I indeed dual boot and keep the original operating system intact?
Will speed/free-memory/etc suffer? (One of my biggest gripes right now is the lack of free space in internal memory even though I try to put everything on the SD card which has plenty of space left)
Would this be a good dummy guide?
Any other links that explain it all for 10 year olds would be nice too... Then I can direct my 9 year old to read up on it on there instead of asking her dad...
PS: I know this might come off as a 'I don't feel like searching and want everything handed on a silver platter', but I hope I made it clear I do spend loads of time trying to figure it out myself, but sometimes that just doesn't work...
You say that you've really searched a lot and I believe you seeing as you've put so much detail in your post, but I still think the answers are readily available in simple terms.
If you want to dual boot, then it literally couldn't be simpler. If you have a TMOUS phone then just download an SD ROM from the SD Development forum, place the 'Android' folder on the root of your SD card (i.e. it should literally be /Android), run CLRCAD then HARET and you've got Android running. If it's an EU phone, check the radio version. If it's above 2.08.50 then you're good to go. If not, then find the latest official stock ROM for your phone (should be 3.14.something) and flash it (you could flash a radio separately but I guess you want a very easy way). Then just repeat the above steps about the SD ROM, CLRCAD and HARET.
If you want NAND Android (which is faster and has better battery life but you'll get rid of WinMo completely [IMO a huge positive ]) then follow this guide. It's incredibly simple, and you can try using the HD2 Toolkit (search for it) to help. Good luck
THANKS
There you do it again, using all kinds of terms that don't mean a thing to me :laugh:
But I think I've gotten enough to go on, THANKS FOR YOUR ANSWER. And I haven't stopped reading in the meantime, so I am a wiser man than when posting my thread. But still bloody ignorant
I will try to post back here if succesful. Although I know full well, that once it works, I tend to forget all the troubles of getting there, hence might also forget reporting back...
As for ditching WiMo completely: yes please, but for now I am way too much of a chicken to do so. Maybe after several succesful working Android tries...
As for better speed: it has annoyed me from the beginning that the startupscreen has a stutter in it... During the writing of 'quietly brilliant" the sound stutters
My phone (just for extra info)
5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila 2.5.19211619.0
ROM 1.66.404.1 (76641) NLD from 14th of Jan 2010
Radioversion 2.07.51.22_2
Protocol 15.322.50.07U
Wait, have you successfully booted SD Android? Because technically I don't think you should be able to. The first thing you should do before attempting anything is to read this handy guide from T-Macgnolia (don't forget to thank him) which explains everything for noobs. Once you've done that, try reading the guide I posted earlier (the same one is in my signature too).
you need atleast radio 2.08 to run android ... flash radio 2.15 you don't need full ROM flash...so nothing changes from your wm set up..
Then put any sd android build on your sd card by extracting the files.. click clrad ( nothing happens).. then click haret.. you will boot into android... try gingerbread versions first.. enjoy
Then once you are adventurous... install a native sd Rom... faster than nand builds if you have a nice sd card
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Nigeldg said:
Wait, have you successfully booted SD Android?.
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No, still reading up on stuff.
pakure said:
you need atleast radio 2.08 to run android ... flash radio 2.15 you don't need full ROM flash...so nothing changes from your wm set up..
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You guys feel so at home with the terms being thrown around that you probably cannot imagine how hard it is for a noob to find his way. I've just spend a few hours (after not being on here for days) trying to find a good explanation about how to change the radio to 2.15 and have finally come across a working link with the latest radio-file. But I think I first have to install some boot-loading kinda program (hspl) before it will accept the 2.15 file still to be renamed to leoimg.nbh
I've quickly read through this thread with explanations, but it's like reading a paper on nuclear fusion. I see the words, but they don't mean much and therefor don't stick or make sense. As soon as you learn a little more, you have to reread it and what first was Russian to you (or Chinese for the Russians amongst us) now makes a little more sense.
Getting to see the big picture just takes reading, looking at other threads, rereading, etc.
No worries, I'll get there, but it is very time consuming. *runs off to see if he still has a 1 or 2GB uSD card since trying to sell them all off when getting a batch of 8GB for our phones and Nintendo DS's*.
I'm considering getting a 64GB class 10, but lets get it to work first, then we'll cross that bridge...
Thanks so far, as said I should be able to work it out and will, eventually :fingers-crossed:, report back.
You may need to check if 64GB cards actually work. I've read mixed things about them, some saying they work perfectly fine whilst others say it needs to be repartitioned or something. Can't remember where these are from so I can't post any links, sorry.
Thanks. So far I've only read reports that they DO work on the HD2. But having one can never hurt, there's enough other stuff we have that I can try it in (SLR camera, tablets, USB-uSD-reader (which makes it a 64GB stick), etc.)
If the difference between SDHC and SDXC is indeed basically only one extra pin with no other drawbacks than not being able to use its maximum speed, then there should hopefully be at least one working application for it
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Thanks. So far I've only read reports that they DO work on the HD2. But having one can never hurt, there's enough other stuff we have that I can try it in (SLR camera, tablets, USB-uSD-reader (which makes it a 64GB stick), etc.)
If the difference between SDHC and SDXC is indeed basically only one extra pin with no other drawbacks than not being able to use its maximum speed, then there should hopefully be at least one working application for it
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Yeah I don't see why it shouldn't work. I thought that the only difference was that SDXCs were higher capacity lol, I'm sure Google has the answers.
I understand your problem..... the hd2 has had great development and umpteen number of roms... you need to read.. the more you read the better you become...i have been tinkering with my hd2 for almost three years now.... happy flashing
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dont feel bad my friend ...i was in your place just a few months ago now i am a flash addict..the first time i did it i was sure my phone would never work again . i am now runing dual boot ICS on nand and native sd JB. IMO i would think about using a ICS rom first it is pretty stable since ppl have had lots of time to refine it i use the Nexus HD2 ICS 4.0.4 Nativesd rom works great !!then after u get used to using it u could try others out !!
good luck!
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dont feel bad my friend ...i was in your place just a few months ago now i am a flash addict..
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So I know what to expect
Right now I am puzzled by MAGLDR.
Of course I am not listening to your good advice of starting with an old Android and want to skip to the Nexus version immediately. (Not this one as it only has a native SD version)
MAGLDR should allow me to use a different directory than the standard /ANDROID, but it also warns it will wipe out my ROM... So not running that until I read up on it some more.
BTW I tried running clrcad and haret manually from this Nexus version, but it rebooted into WM6.5, so I'm missing something... (Put it on an empty SD card in a NexusHD folder, which in turn consists of an ICS folder and a file called SD_boot. I did not do anything with the SD_BOOT file, should that have been in the root???)
As said, I'll get there... If the phone doesn't take flying lessons into the brick wall before that... (don't worry, not nearly there yet.:good
(EDIT: I tried rerunning CLRCAD and HARET, but this time it won't run it (no signed certificate or it is missing something), and it added a small file in the root called EndFilt.log.)
The correct process for running SD Android is to have the folder containing CLRCAD and HARET on the root of the SD card, i.e. when you run CLRCAD the path should be /Android/CLRCAD (if your folder is called 'Android', that is). Also, the NexusHD2 JB ROM that you linked has NativeSD, NAND and NAND/EXT versions, so I don't see why you think it's only NativeSD.
Thanks! Am trying Froyo now (MccM DS V4.0 FroyoStone Sense). Issue with certificate persists, so how can I run clrcad again? Tried the red button, but it keeps whining the certificate isn't signed or components are missing.
(Found this, will continue reading tomorrow...)
Nigeldg said:
Also, the NexusHD2 JB ROM that you linked has NativeSD, NAND and NAND/EXT versions, so I don't see why you think it's only NativeSD.
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I meant only NativeSD (and whatever other non-SD options) as opposed to purely SD, which is what I was looking for.
Success!!! Froyo up and running.
I did need to do this:
Frome here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858348
Following simple steps:
1) Download following file: http://www.internet-tools.co.uk/blog...sda_unlock.zip
From archive we need only SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe
It allows Registry to be edited from PC.
Run it with working Activesync connection
2) Download Mobile Registry Editor: http://www.zipsoft.ru/catalog/mobile...tor-v1_11.html
Also run with working Activesync connection
3) and modify the following keys to the values listed.
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","0000101b" ,"1 ")
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","00001005" ,"4 0") (actually filled out "40", not "4 0" as that was not accepted)
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","0000101a" ,"1 ")
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","00001001" ,"1 ")
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","00001017" ,"2 4") (actually filled out "24", not "2 4" as that was not accepted)
It perfectly worked with HD2, but I guess it should work with all WM devices.
4) Restart
P.S. Special THANKS to JZ SmartMort
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Ran clrcad and haret and it works. Next step is to transfer my simcard to start using it again.
I will miss my 7 yr old K300i with its standby time of about 10 days... (HD2 is company phone that I got to keep when contract ended)
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Why do you live in Antarctica with no power source near by to charge your phone?
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My wife has misplaced my charger, so we are stuck with one charger for two phones... (HTC HD2 and Galaxy S) When using the old phone, it is suddenly a non-issue.
Especially important as I went to sleep with 70% left on the HD2 and woke up (<6hours later) with a dead phone...
I *hope* it was due to my WIFI, the antenna-coaxial cable was unplugged, so I hope my WIFI and Bluetooth will work properly again now... (edit: theory being the WIFI wasn't turned on when using WM, hence normal battery life, but on Android I did turn it on, but only had reception when less than 3ft away from my router (which is deliberately placed on the top floor of our house, 20ft, a concrete and a wooden floor above our living room))
But I do have this issue: the screen is unstable, moves around, my alarms keep getting activated (edit: while the screen is shaking/vibrating, you see the alarm box being checked, unchecked, checked, etc), etc.
Anyone else have this issue? (This version software: Nexus CM9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjpspNaZ1Sg
(Re-viewing the above, I wonder whether this is partly due to slowness (edit: of the entire system and class4-SDcard) so if it is a response of me tapping the screen sevaral times to get the keyboard to appear, I'll see if I can get another clip of its quirky behaviour. I can't find similar issues when searching for "moving" or "vibrating screen" under Android and HD2, but there must be better search-words???)
As you can tell by my sig I'm on the same ROM and no, I've never had issues like that.
Just a quick update on using it for a couple of months:
Quite often it is very slow in responding (use the ON button 3 times before I can get 'control' over my phone).
Running stuff from it is very slow too (have a 8GB class4 card, plan to buy a 64GB class10 card to see if that fixes something).
Poweruseage is definately higher than on Windows, even when not using all the extra free games I couldn't run when still on WM6.5 The first half of the battery-symbol it seems to be very frugal, but it will easily drain the second half of the battery overnight. It will simply never last much more than a day, where WM could last 2 on rare occasions.
And I am not quite sure the high-speed charging is working, as it seems to take a lot longer to charge. But I have not found the Android equivalent of "Spooncharge" yet.
And then there's the malfunctioning of the screen sometimes. It is as if it is getting a signal as if I am touching it. It could be due to me repairing the screen, but I have used it on WM for quite a while after the repair, but it never behaved like this.
But despite of it all, I'm not going back
SIM-card trouble ICS on SD card after del an app
Android is not recognizing the SIM card (or something), but WM6.5 has no issues.
It's been so long that I forgot all steps I took to get here (here = a running version of ICS without an EXT4 partition on the SD in my HD2).
I did copy all files from my laptop ICS folder to the ICS folder on the SD card in the phone, but this did not solve anything.
Any time I restart android from the ICS folder, I get into the locked screen of Android, with the line that I can only call emergency numbers, I unlock it, feed it the SIM-password but end up (after several minutes) at the same startup-screen with the same "only emergency numbers" remark. Sometimes it will prompt me to reboot the phone (it will then go to WM, and when I start Android from the ICS folder, it all starts over).
Signs that something was going wrong: Angry Birds would hang. I was going to uninstall it and came across another app I wanted to remove. I uninstalled it through the App's tab in Android, and Android never functioned properly since.
Any clues?
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Hi peeps !
I have the weirdest problem with my Athena, regardless of ROM versions (from official WM5 french version to my current Black Touch by PK 2 - awesome ROM, just installed it, gonna contribute and that's no bs).
When my Athena wakes up when I turn it on (or I'm called on the phone), even if I dont do anything, CPU load's about 80%. Needless to say, it is then extremely sluggish.
When I check what processes use CPU time using various task managers, it shows what it should, which is the idle process "using" (so to speak) almost all resources. Meaning that no other process shown by any task manager uses more than 2-3% at a time.
If I leave the Athena connected to a power supply, turned on, after a while, like 10 minutes or so, CPU load falls back to 5%, and my Athena then goes from turtle to rabbit.
What I tried already:
- hard reset and nothing installed: same behavior;
- disabling services: nothing changes;
- killing all "killable" processes: nothing changes;
- formated microdrive from Athena / "recovered microdrive" / formated microdrive from XP (FAT32) using WM5torage: nothing changes;
- searched and searched through the forum(s) and the internet for anything that remotely resembles my problem (hence the microdrive manipulations, for instance).
I'm therefore running out of ideas, and hopefully turning to the good people of the forum to see if they have any suggestion or idea as to what my problem is, and how to solve it.
Its especially frustrating to see my Athena "debilitated" to the point of being almost unusuable when I know how fast it can be... :-S
Thank you all for your help !
Another weird thing about my problem: I used Pocket Hack Master both to "see" CPU load real time, and to force various clocks to the CPU and see what happens.
And the strangest thing is that CPU usage remains "constant" at about 80%, from 200 MHz to 728 MHz !
Weird, huh ?
I'm at a loss... :-S :-(
hardware faults? Tried replacement?
Well, no, haven't replaced it. I was kindda hoping that someone would have an idea, because it doesn't "feel" as if it has a hardware problem: when after a while CPU drops back to normal, the Athena feels lightening fast again, and even when it is sluggish, it works, it's just... Extremely slow.
It "feels" as if something is being "checked" or I don't know what, by some processes I can't see in a task manager. Of course I may be wrong, and if nobody has any idea as to how to fix this , I guess I'll have it replaced.
Thank you for your interest in any case !
try dual 3.0 if i remember correctly btio was causing a steep wake up cpu load and it caused problems like u mentioned. thats why it aint in 3.0
Hi there, Pawel !
Well, I'd removed btio from my startup folder, because I'd experienced the huge battery drain issue.
But you know, I'm gonna try Dual PK 3.0 and see what happens... I'll let you guys know !
Thank you for your answers, guys, though !
In place of btio, you might want to try the latest wktask, which already has a battery metre.
Well well well, I installed Dual PK, but alas, thrice alas, same old same old problem. :-(
I was wondering: is there a way to disable embedded devices the way you'd do with a desktop Windows ? I tried from the registry but the HKLM\drivers and such keys, I didn't have the right to modify.
I have an idea that it may be my SD Card slot that causes the problem (I've always had minor troubles with it, such as having to take the card out and in again every once in a while, even tough I'd modified access times in the registry). I'd sure like to disable it to see. But I tried from a Taskmanager (to disable the device) and from the registry, even tried to delete the dlls, but couldn't (the modification was either refused or altogether ignored).
So, is there some kind of "failsafe mode" comparable to that of Windows 2000/XP/Vista ? Or an "admin" mode that lets me do what I want with my registry and DLLs ?
Thanks a bunch guys !
1. where do you install your [email protected]?
2. are you using miniSD or miniSDHC?
3. What exactly were your format parameters?
4. What benchmark do you manage to get using sktools for your storage card?
Ok:
1 - since i had some problems with my SD Card, I now install applications to the main memory (not microdrive, not SD);
2 - Both, actually, when I use SD Cards (which is only for transfer purposes, now). When I first experienced problems, I thought it was due to my 2GB Transcend 80x MiniSD, so I bought a 4 GB SDHC from PNY. But that didn't solve anything, alas. The SDHC worked, though, well, it worked just like the regular SD, which means with the same "disconnected-have-to-take-it-out-put-it-back" once in a while trouble;
3 - For my SD ? Although I don't have them with me right now, I belive it was FAT32;
4 - Haven't tried, actually. Will do so tonight !
Do you know if there's a way to disable embedded devices, aside from modifying my ROM's registry and hard-reseting ? Maybe logging in with a more critically privilieged user than guest ? If so, how do I do that (searched the forum, didn't find it) ?
I just installed MemMaid, to see if it tells me someting I don't already know... :-S
Thank you for your interest, man. This thing is driving me nearly insane... :-S
HeartOfDarkness said:
Ok:
1 - since i had some problems with my SD Card, I now install applications to the main memory (not microdrive, not SD);
2 - Both, actually, when I use SD Cards (which is only for transfer purposes, now). When I first experienced problems, I thought it was due to my 2GB Transcend 80x MiniSD, so I bought a 4 GB SDHC from PNY. But that didn't solve anything, alas. The SDHC worked, though, well, it worked just like the regular SD, which means with the same "disconnected-have-to-take-it-out-put-it-back" once in a while trouble;
3 - For my SD ? Although I don't have them with me right now, I belive it was FAT32;
4 - Haven't tried, actually. Will do so tonight !
Do you know if there's a way to disable embedded devices, aside from modifying my ROM's registry and hard-reseting ? Maybe logging in with a more critically privilieged user than guest ? If so, how do I do that (searched the forum, didn't find it) ?
I just installed MemMaid, to see if it tells me someting I don't already know... :-S
Thank you for your interest, man. This thing is driving me nearly insane... :-S
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Installing everything on device memory could be the cause of the problem, if by doing so you become critically low in storage or program memory. I monitor this occasionally to ensure I have at least 40 mb of storage free.
You must format miniSD in FAT16 and miniSDHC in FAT 32.I've posted somewhere the effect of various parameter on read/write performance in another thread. I'll find that thread later and let you have the info.
Edit:
See post number 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331502&highlight=format
As for embedded devices disabling, I have not found any need to do that.
Hi !
Ok, thanks for the info on FAT format for the cards, I'm pretty sure that's what I had, I'll recheck tonight. But for now, I'm SD-Card-less, so I should think it's not the immediate cause of the problem.
I never went below than 70 MB of free storage, so I guess that track's out the window too. :-S
Yeah, I know that I shouldn't try and disable any embedded device manually, but since my Athena's acting up and I *think* that one (or more, god forbid) devices may be the cause, I'd really like to try and disable them one at a time, until I find the culprit.
Do you know of a way to log on to WM6 with enough privileges so as to be able to rename / remove \windows\DDLs or delete HKLM\drivers\ registry keys ? I don't really care if I screw my Athena up with such manipulations, I not hard-reset shy anymore.
Thank you for your help, in any case !
As I have not felt the need to do that, I'm yet to find out how to do this myself. Perhaps someone like Powell or Olipro would have done it.
Thank you for your help, Steve.
Well, let's hope one of them cruises by, sees the light coming out of the thread and feels like sharing a bit of wisdom.
That'd be an even greater christmas gift than that...
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Yes, I *am* a geek alright.
Well, unless one of the gurus out there provide me with the miracle solution to my problem, I guess I'll start the replacement procedure (which, being in France, is probably gonna drive me nuts).
Thanks eaglesteeve and Pawel (and others who might have thought about this strange problem of mine).
HeartOfDarkness said:
Well, unless one of the gurus out there provide me with the miracle solution to my problem, I guess I'll start the replacement procedure (which, being in France, is probably gonna drive me nuts).
Thanks eaglesteeve and Pawel (and others who might have thought about this strange problem of mine).
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well did you try to test it in this way:
- flash a rom (stock rom or PK3.0)
- do not do anything at all, do not modify registry or anything
- remove SD card
- turn off all wireless and the phone too
and see if it is still sluggish, if so then it is some subtle HW problem on the motherboard or something, and i recommend having it replaced
Well I'll try that tonight, and post here my observations.
If it is still sluggish, well, we can proceed with what I suggested to pawel by PM, if you guys are interested.
Thanks for your help !
HeartOfDarkness said:
Well I'll try that tonight, and post here my observations.
If it is still sluggish, well, we can proceed with what I suggested to pawel by PM, if you guys are interested.
Thanks for your help !
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OK, thanks, have you had a chance to test it out yet?
HI there cmonex !
Actually no, not yet, new year's eve kindda put the thing on hold. And I am still (lol can't help it) trying to find a way to locate and "destroy" the antagonistic Ghost inside my Athena.
Hence my other question about the power button, I thought I maybe had a lead there.
But I'll follow your suggestions very soon and let you guys know about it ASAP.
HeartOfDarkness said:
HI there cmonex !
Actually no, not yet, new year's eve kindda put the thing on hold. And I am still (lol can't help it) trying to find a way to locate and "destroy" the antagonistic Ghost inside my Athena.
Hence my other question about the power button, I thought I maybe had a lead there.
But I'll follow your suggestions very soon and let you guys know about it ASAP.
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ok, no problem, though i think i missed the power button idea, where did you ask about it?
Both have 1.42 hspl, both have energy wm base rom. One will fire up the mattc 1.5 Android but when I remove the sd card and put in the other HD2 (even after a format) it just hangs at 'jumping to kernel'. Pop it back in the other HD2 again and everything is fine!!
Any explanations as I am stumped
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obvious question: radio version is the same?
Sorry. Yes both the same (12.50)
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hmmm.. tried with another SD card as well?
- ROM, RADIO, HSPL VERSION, SD CARD are ALL THE SAME?
if not, look in to that first.. Second, maybe try with another SIM card.
Tried different sd card as well. So really odd. The phone can't be broken nor the SD slot as it reads and executes other files.
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happens...
i wonder if for the hd2 that does not boot, have u tried using the exact same sd card which boot the "bootable" hd2?
if so, and the phone is still unbootable into hd2, does any1 else know of any way to extract out a log for the devs/kernel coders to take a look?
Have you tried to switch batteries between the devices?
Have tried using exact SD card. It won't boot. Have not however tried swapping batteries. Will try in 45 mins and post result!
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Hi,
You should try to make a "clean start" with Android and the second HD2 :
Delete everything on the SDcard and copy back the Android build on it.
Then, start Android normally in the second HD2.
My point is that, at first launch, each build creates some data before Android appears, MAYBE this data is in a way related to the phone it has been created with, explaining why you can't run an already "ready" build on another phone.
Thanks but youll see from original post that I even reformatted the same SD and then copied the build across. It won't boot. I assume that's what you meant.
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Yes, that's what I meant, sorry I read your post a little too quickly.
You could also try another build :
Yesterday my phone ( using android ) froze, so I restarted it and it became IMPOSSIBLE to start Android again ( white screen, black screen, before and after reformatting the SD card ) so I tried a different build and it worked.
There are times when it just won't boot. Be gentle with it in WM and it'll boot fine
try same SIM card
The one that won't boot task 29 it and put the same ROM back on it might have some stuff hanging around in root of phone that's causing issues
when i had jumping to kernel issue it was because i forgot to rename the .txt file in android folder to startup.txt. maybe a silly question but did you do that?
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Hi,
You should try to make a "clean start" with Android and the second HD2 :
Delete everything on the SDcard and copy back the Android build on it.
Then, start Android normally in the second HD2.
My point is that, at first launch, each build creates some data before Android appears, MAYBE this data is in a way related to the phone it has been created with, explaining why you can't run an already "ready" build on another phone.
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+1 on that. Up to now I wasn't able to copy my fully configured and working FroyoStone installation from SD card to HDD and back without getting problems sooner or later (although no hardware was changed at all!). I had boot problems when doing so several times. So you might consider to set up Android on the faulty device from scratch (without copying anything from the other device). I'd also start with a freshly formatted SD card...
HTH!
Dont quote me on this, but I believe the HD2 has two variants (again, dont quote me) they use 2 different types of LCD (I believe one has a blueish tint to it). So maybe your problem lies with the screen? When I bought this phone for my moms birthday, i noticed that the screen was a little blue no matter how I tweaked the settings, but mine, if anything has a little yellow to it. Again not sure, remember reading about the 2 variants of LCD causing certain problems with certain builds. Hope it all works out for you
There are definitely different hardware suppliers.
I bought my HD2 in the UK in november last year. 1 month ago I bought a second one for my father. The display of the new device had far better colors and contrast. Besides having some other minor problems with the device, that was the last straw, so I sent it to HTC for repairs. They replaced the screen and the colors are now even with my fathers HD2, however the color of the LCD panel itself, when switched off, is different. So still different LCD screens ...
But its not only the screen: My fathers HD2 boots up twice as fast as mine; same radio, same hspl, same rom, same configuration. From the moment the red letters on the bottom appear, it only takes ~15 seconds for that HD2 to get past the splashscreens. Mine takes ~30 seconds. However, the odd thing is, in all benchmarks I ran, both got the same results ...
Am working on this now. It has a fresh Energy Rom on it (build 23128 - same as working one). I am now in process of reformatting the SD card (the long slow version). I will then copy mattc 1.5 on to card and try again. Saw a post about renaming .txt to startup.txt. It's already called that and works on the other phone anyway.
If this doesnt work then I'll do a Task 29 although I've no clue what that actually is
You should do a Task 29 before putting the Energy rom on. Task 29 wipes the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644781
Hello people,
I'm not new to the HD2 as I have had it for 10 months now, however I am new to customizing the bad boy. I love the look of android and want it installing but it always seems harder for me to put it on then any of you whizzes out there.
I followed what I though to be the correct method (i.e put on chuckyROM and used HPSL3 to do something (think the word RADIO rings a bell 2.08 or something ??). Anyway, I put on a few different version of the android build and it booted linux but the on the left hand side of the screen there where a number of vertical white lines on the black background, and there they stayed. This happened for every version of android I found.
I then fully formated the SD card (8Gig class 4) which took a good hour and placed FroyoStone on the card. Put in and booted for it to only get to the down a few lines when booting and stopped on something about opening kernal??
Can anyone give me some tips on how I can sort the issue. I have spent a fair few hours searching through the forums but there is just an information overload sometimes.
Noob out
I guess you should modify startup.txt?
kavsternator said:
Hello people,
I'm not new to the HD2 as I have had it for 10 months now, however I am new to customizing the bad boy. I love the look of android and want it installing but it always seems harder for me to put it on then any of you whizzes out there.
I followed what I though to be the correct method (i.e put on chuckyROM and used HPSL3 to do something (think the word RADIO rings a bell 2.08 or something ??). Anyway, I put on a few different version of the android build and it booted linux but the on the left hand side of the screen there where a number of vertical white lines on the black background, and there they stayed. This happened for every version of android I found.
I then fully formated the SD card (8Gig class 4) which took a good hour and placed FroyoStone on the card. Put in and booted for it to only get to the down a few lines when booting and stopped on something about opening kernal??
Can anyone give me some tips on how I can sort the issue. I have spent a fair few hours searching through the forums but there is just an information overload sometimes.
Noob out
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Do you mean the horixontal lines of white text? If so.... are you waiting long enough for it to finish loading??? FIRST BOOT WILL TAKE APPROX 5 MINS OR MAYBE LONGER ON SOME BUILDS.
And if by 'opening kernel' you mean "Jumping to kernel".. then the guy above is probably right, you will more than likely have to edit startup.txt or delete the empty android folder, or put the install into the android folder instead of root.
Search for "jumping to kernel" WITH Quote marks.... there are LOTS of posts on the subject... good luck
kavsternator said:
Hello people,
I'm not new to the HD2 as I have had it for 10 months now, however I am new to customizing the bad boy. I love the look of android and want it installing but it always seems harder for me to put it on then any of you whizzes out there.
I followed what I though to be the correct method (i.e put on chuckyROM and used HPSL3 to do something (think the word RADIO rings a bell 2.08 or something ??). Anyway, I put on a few different version of the android build and it booted linux but the on the left hand side of the screen there where a number of vertical white lines on the black background, and there they stayed. This happened for every version of android I found.
I then fully formated the SD card (8Gig class 4) which took a good hour and placed FroyoStone on the card. Put in and booted for it to only get to the down a few lines when booting and stopped on something about opening kernal??
Can anyone give me some tips on how I can sort the issue. I have spent a fair few hours searching through the forums but there is just an information overload sometimes.
Noob out
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Information overload, what after a few hours? Why not post in the thread of who's release you're using, or keep reading and trying different methods? A few hours IMO is no way near enough for a noob with one post to start a new topic in main thread!
This is the kind of thing that really puts ppl off and really annoys more experienced users. I bet you would ask and demand this and that and when all said and done you never once donated or said thankyou!
I aint no dev or ROM cook but I sure feel put off by the lack of initiative and makes me feel less like donating to this site or devs.
Ignorance aint bliss!
Don't think there is any need in such strong reactions, the OP has just posted in the wrong area when first using the forum.
If you want to get anywhere with android (and to an extent this community and hobby) when starting off choose a popular ROM and stick with it till you know roughly what you are doing. It is then easy to see how others have got theirs set up and what problems people are having. Try to emulate someone else's working setup from their signature, particularly if a few people seem to be using the same combo. As you hit problems raise them in the thread relevant to the area that is causing you issue.
At the moment you don't seem to know what radio you have installed which could be causing issues. I would suggest going back to the start and ensuring you take your time following everything, it gets easier as you go.
Do you have another SD card you could try with? 1 hour format sounds a bit long for 8gb. Also, you should try changing to a newer radio like 2.12.50.02. You can download it from here:
http://www.vbnfiles.com/HD2 Common/Radios/
Make sure you put the Android folder at the root of you sdcard (d:\Android)
Good luck and be careful with your HD2.
Hello guys , Been a member here and a browser here for a fair while. And once again iv'e come to grab some advice from the guru's on site. My questions are.
1) Decent WP7 Rom , With Chevron ETC Built in. Im currently using XBMoD's WP7 but im having FAR to many troubles with it its unreal.One being when i ring my bank or anything with 'Key Input' it fails to recognise the keys i press. And i end up having to Remove the battery to turn it off. Cause the Phone sits on 'Ending call' for as long as its on i left it 45 minutes and it didnt end once.
2) Compatible DUAL BOOT Android Build that goes side by side with WP7 , Without to many hickups.
3) What size SD Card is most viable for Dual Booting? Im guessing something on the 4GB+ Side. I only have a 2gb one atm and im doubting that has enough space to work with.
I LOVE having WP7 as my Daily OS. But as i use my phone for ALL internet banking etc this problem is becoming a huge issue. Ive seen many new builds on the forums but im Nervous of testing , As i dont want to flash my phone to many times.
1. I can not give any feed back on a WP7 ROMs cause I have never tried any of them. Sorry!
2. I can give you feed back on a Android SD card build. A lot of people on here that dual boot WP7 and Android use American Android, plus it is made to use with MAGLDR. Read the quote below from post #¹ of the thread.
BOOTSDfromMAGLDR: includes optional rootfs.img that allows to boot build from magldr (!readme! in /sdcard/Android/SDMAGLDR)
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3. You are correct about your asumption on the SD card. I would definitely suggest a 4 gig or higher SD card. Actually I would go with a 8 gig or higher if it was me, bit that is just me.
Hope this hels some.
hey guys, trying to do my first upgrade to get win 7 on my very slow buggy hd2, i am following the guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478
and i am stuck on the first step, i have checked the SPL version, 1.42.00 i think it was, had phone on, connected up the usb, then downloaded and ran HSPL2_Run from my pc, and it fails on the usb connect, stuck on what to do
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I have now rebooted phone, held down the volume key and entered the coloured screen, connected usb, says usb at the bottom of the screen, and re ran the program, still no joy
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I have now tried using a different file on the link HSPL and i get past the USB connect and get a large loading bar but then get another error
Unknown error
Error Code: 0x80003
Always reference this code for eventual requests
Link used and used both downloads at bottom of page>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Boot screen shows
PB81100 SS-BC
SPL-1.42.0000 XE
MicroP(LED) 0x05
MicroP(Touch) 0x50
USB
Can't speak for anyone else's guides but this YouTube tutorial with links to the needed files was the one I used and it works perfectly...
hey mate, thanks for the reply, i spent a good hour trying all different things and doing them over and over and all of a sudden it worked, done all the things on the video, and now i have win 7 on my phone, i am sooo pleased with my self lol
only thing is my sd card is 2gig so will need to buy a bigger one when i got some cash, when i get a bigger one can i just use the pc, drag and drop the files on the card to the pc and then back onto the bigger card, or is all the needed files saved on the phone?
cheers
I think I did read something somewhere about someone using a partition tool to do something similar, but for all practical purposes you should assume a hard reset is required to allow WP7 to format and set up the card properly.
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hey mate, thanks for the reply, i spent a good hour trying all different things and doing them over and over and all of a sudden it worked, done all the things on the video, and now i have win 7 on my phone, i am sooo pleased with my self lol
only thing is my sd card is 2gig so will need to buy a bigger one when i got some cash, when i get a bigger one can i just use the pc, drag and drop the files on the card to the pc and then back onto the bigger card, or is all the needed files saved on the phone?
cheers
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Ywe drag and drop will work with photos, videos, documents, and etc. Or you can use copy and past too.
As far as you putting the new card in I think all you have to do is put the SD card in your HD2 and then boot it up. I think it will be like the first time you booted because WP7 uses the SD card for it's internal memory so it will have to format your new card with RAID and place what info it has to place on it. Atleast that is what I have read, I do not use WP7.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ywe drag and drop will work with photos, videos, documents, and etc. Or you can use copy and past too.
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It won't. There is no real file explorer for WP7 and I don't believe the filesystem is readable outside of WP7.
I believe you will also need to reflash WP7 to have the card work effectively in the OS.
Donketdaz said:
only thing is my sd card is 2gig so will need to buy a bigger one when i got some cash, when i get a bigger one can i just use the pc, drag and drop the files on the card to the pc and then back onto the bigger card, or is all the needed files saved on the phone?
cheers
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Check this thread...
Gustopher said:
It won't. There is no real file explorer for WP7 and I don't believe the filesystem is readable outside of WP7.
I believe you will also need to reflash WP7 to have the card work effectively in the OS.
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You may be right, but I thought that you could still use drag and drop or copy and paste if you use the little USB mass storage hack for WP7. But I have never used WP7 on my HD2 so what do I know.
T-Macgnolia said:
You may be right, but I thought that you could still use drag and drop or copy and paste if you use the little USB mass storage hack for WP7. But I have never used WP7 on my HD2 so what do I know.
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You can to some degree, but it's not as simple as good old WM and WP7 will most likely rename all of the files to add further complication. For a noob, best advice is to expect a hard reset
Well after a day at work, last night i was loving the win 7 on my phone, now i hate it....
Got so many issues with it,
1. Randomly reboots itself every 10 mins or so everytime, all day long and when it does it goes into a sort of safe mode with none of my settings saved, themes etc, and i have to reboot 2+ times to get my settings back, then it goes again after 10mins
2. when screen is locked for a few mins, when i go to unlock it and activate screen nothing happens, then the phone reboots.
3. During all these problems, every other time all the apps stop working, dont load up, reset fixes, not always.
4. Battery dies within an hour os so from full
Used [LEO_70]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA-HD2_WP7_V4_(13.Apr) rom
any others anyone can cecommend or maybe even Android?
Also how do i install a new Rom, do i just run in on the 5th option of Magldr or do i need to delete it off first then install the new one? cheers
Donketdaz said:
Well after a day at work, last night i was loving the win 7 on my phone, now i hate it....
Got so many issues with it,
1. Randomly reboots itself every 10 mins or so everytime, all day long and when it does it goes into a sort of safe mode with none of my settings saved, themes etc, and i have to reboot 2+ times to get my settings back, then it goes again after 10mins
2. when screen is locked for a few mins, when i go to unlock it and activate screen nothing happens, then the phone reboots.
3. During all these problems, every other time all the apps stop working, dont load up, reset fixes, not always.
4. Battery dies within an hour os so from full
Used [LEO_70]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA-HD2_WP7_V4_(13.Apr) rom
any others anyone can cecommend or maybe even Android?
Also how do i install a new Rom, do i just run in on the 5th option of Magldr or do i need to delete it off first then install the new one? cheers
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Your issue most likely isn't WP7 - which is normally quite stable - but an incompatible SD card. I'd suggest you bring forward your plans to get a bigger card - have a read around (there are several threads) to see which flavours of card are more likely to work well - and prepare to re-flash.
You should note that the selection of a suitable SD card does not seem to be an exact science - there is evidence to suggest that almost identical cards may have varying levels of success.
So the bad news is you are facing expense; the good news is that your experience of WP7 isn't representative.