HD2 - WP7 / SD Android Advice - HD2 General

Hello guys , Been a member here and a browser here for a fair while. And once again iv'e come to grab some advice from the guru's on site. My questions are.
1) Decent WP7 Rom , With Chevron ETC Built in. Im currently using XBMoD's WP7 but im having FAR to many troubles with it its unreal.One being when i ring my bank or anything with 'Key Input' it fails to recognise the keys i press. And i end up having to Remove the battery to turn it off. Cause the Phone sits on 'Ending call' for as long as its on i left it 45 minutes and it didnt end once.
2) Compatible DUAL BOOT Android Build that goes side by side with WP7 , Without to many hickups.
3) What size SD Card is most viable for Dual Booting? Im guessing something on the 4GB+ Side. I only have a 2gb one atm and im doubting that has enough space to work with.
I LOVE having WP7 as my Daily OS. But as i use my phone for ALL internet banking etc this problem is becoming a huge issue. Ive seen many new builds on the forums but im Nervous of testing , As i dont want to flash my phone to many times.

1. I can not give any feed back on a WP7 ROMs cause I have never tried any of them. Sorry!
2. I can give you feed back on a Android SD card build. A lot of people on here that dual boot WP7 and Android use American Android, plus it is made to use with MAGLDR. Read the quote below from post #ยน of the thread.
BOOTSDfromMAGLDR: includes optional rootfs.img that allows to boot build from magldr (!readme! in /sdcard/Android/SDMAGLDR)
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3. You are correct about your asumption on the SD card. I would definitely suggest a 4 gig or higher SD card. Actually I would go with a 8 gig or higher if it was me, bit that is just me.
Hope this hels some.

Related

Help Required - Vertical Line Issue- Android Install

Hello people,
I'm not new to the HD2 as I have had it for 10 months now, however I am new to customizing the bad boy. I love the look of android and want it installing but it always seems harder for me to put it on then any of you whizzes out there.
I followed what I though to be the correct method (i.e put on chuckyROM and used HPSL3 to do something (think the word RADIO rings a bell 2.08 or something ??). Anyway, I put on a few different version of the android build and it booted linux but the on the left hand side of the screen there where a number of vertical white lines on the black background, and there they stayed. This happened for every version of android I found.
I then fully formated the SD card (8Gig class 4) which took a good hour and placed FroyoStone on the card. Put in and booted for it to only get to the down a few lines when booting and stopped on something about opening kernal??
Can anyone give me some tips on how I can sort the issue. I have spent a fair few hours searching through the forums but there is just an information overload sometimes.
Noob out
I guess you should modify startup.txt?
kavsternator said:
Hello people,
I'm not new to the HD2 as I have had it for 10 months now, however I am new to customizing the bad boy. I love the look of android and want it installing but it always seems harder for me to put it on then any of you whizzes out there.
I followed what I though to be the correct method (i.e put on chuckyROM and used HPSL3 to do something (think the word RADIO rings a bell 2.08 or something ??). Anyway, I put on a few different version of the android build and it booted linux but the on the left hand side of the screen there where a number of vertical white lines on the black background, and there they stayed. This happened for every version of android I found.
I then fully formated the SD card (8Gig class 4) which took a good hour and placed FroyoStone on the card. Put in and booted for it to only get to the down a few lines when booting and stopped on something about opening kernal??
Can anyone give me some tips on how I can sort the issue. I have spent a fair few hours searching through the forums but there is just an information overload sometimes.
Noob out
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Do you mean the horixontal lines of white text? If so.... are you waiting long enough for it to finish loading??? FIRST BOOT WILL TAKE APPROX 5 MINS OR MAYBE LONGER ON SOME BUILDS.
And if by 'opening kernel' you mean "Jumping to kernel".. then the guy above is probably right, you will more than likely have to edit startup.txt or delete the empty android folder, or put the install into the android folder instead of root.
Search for "jumping to kernel" WITH Quote marks.... there are LOTS of posts on the subject... good luck
kavsternator said:
Hello people,
I'm not new to the HD2 as I have had it for 10 months now, however I am new to customizing the bad boy. I love the look of android and want it installing but it always seems harder for me to put it on then any of you whizzes out there.
I followed what I though to be the correct method (i.e put on chuckyROM and used HPSL3 to do something (think the word RADIO rings a bell 2.08 or something ??). Anyway, I put on a few different version of the android build and it booted linux but the on the left hand side of the screen there where a number of vertical white lines on the black background, and there they stayed. This happened for every version of android I found.
I then fully formated the SD card (8Gig class 4) which took a good hour and placed FroyoStone on the card. Put in and booted for it to only get to the down a few lines when booting and stopped on something about opening kernal??
Can anyone give me some tips on how I can sort the issue. I have spent a fair few hours searching through the forums but there is just an information overload sometimes.
Noob out
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Information overload, what after a few hours? Why not post in the thread of who's release you're using, or keep reading and trying different methods? A few hours IMO is no way near enough for a noob with one post to start a new topic in main thread!
This is the kind of thing that really puts ppl off and really annoys more experienced users. I bet you would ask and demand this and that and when all said and done you never once donated or said thankyou!
I aint no dev or ROM cook but I sure feel put off by the lack of initiative and makes me feel less like donating to this site or devs.
Ignorance aint bliss!
Don't think there is any need in such strong reactions, the OP has just posted in the wrong area when first using the forum.
If you want to get anywhere with android (and to an extent this community and hobby) when starting off choose a popular ROM and stick with it till you know roughly what you are doing. It is then easy to see how others have got theirs set up and what problems people are having. Try to emulate someone else's working setup from their signature, particularly if a few people seem to be using the same combo. As you hit problems raise them in the thread relevant to the area that is causing you issue.
At the moment you don't seem to know what radio you have installed which could be causing issues. I would suggest going back to the start and ensuring you take your time following everything, it gets easier as you go.
Do you have another SD card you could try with? 1 hour format sounds a bit long for 8gb. Also, you should try changing to a newer radio like 2.12.50.02. You can download it from here:
http://www.vbnfiles.com/HD2 Common/Radios/
Make sure you put the Android folder at the root of you sdcard (d:\Android)
Good luck and be careful with your HD2.

[Q] Numerous Questions (NAND & SD Builds & Wakeup lag)

Hello everyone
It's been a while since I've posted here so my apologies. I've been so excited with Android on my HD2 I haven't really gotten around to posting, Obsessive Flashing Disorder .
So I have numerous questions for y'all.
1) NAND is horrible for me. I flash MAGLDR, I've also used the Clockwork Mod, but whenever a build installs, it sticks on the white screen with the "htc" logo in green smack bang in the middle of the screen. Left it for over half an hour in school while in school, all that came up was the setup quiz, which btw was extremely unresponsive and as I pressed next it would go back to the white screen, then I'd wait 5 minutes, and I'd be presented with the next step. I've flashed a NAND ROM multiple times and tried a Clockwork Mod ROM and it's the same. However, on the Clockwork ROM I Managed to complete setup and could send a text, only because my girlfriend text me and I could pull down the "Notifications" tab. It stuck on the home screen saying "loading" constantly. SD Card was partitioned properly too...
2) Gave up with a NAND ROM and tried Windows Phone 7. Loved it! Just needed to activate it. Got skype, got the number, America and Canada only. No problems, the guy gave me the number for UK and I phoned it on my landline to be told to call between 8 and 6 Mon-To-Friday. Fine, I copy my old SD build of android to my SD Card and tell MAGLDR to boot from Android SD instead. It goes fine, loads up, then restarts and I'm told "cannot find zImage", this process just repeats and repeats. Did I do something idiotic or?
Note: The SD build is from the original way of booting WinMo then Android.
3) Wake up lag. Ugh, I get such bad wake up lag. Unfortunately it can take up to 2 minutes for my phone to unlock. Next time I'll try and grab a video camera and record it. Sometimes I also have to press the unlock key numerous times for it to actually even do anything. My phone, SD Card or? There was no lag on WP7, and my SD card is a 16Gb Class 4 card.
4) Colours on the display become inverted. Yeah, inverted, but more towards the whitish end. Again I'll try and get photo evidence next time, but I have to restart and then everything is fine. Kernel problems, or is my phone starting to give up the ghost?
Many thanks guys, I aim to start helping out a lot more!
Jake
An almost happy Android & XDA user.
J.Hendy said:
Hello everyone
It's been a while since I've posted here so my apologies. I've been so excited with Android on my HD2 I haven't really gotten around to posting, Obsessive Flashing Disorder .
So I have numerous questions for y'all.
1) NAND is horrible for me. I flash MAGLDR, I've also used the Clockwork Mod, but whenever a build installs, it sticks on the white screen with the "htc" logo in green smack bang in the middle of the screen. Left it for over half an hour in school while in school, all that came up was the setup quiz, which btw was extremely unresponsive and as I pressed next it would go back to the white screen, then I'd wait 5 minutes, and I'd be presented with the next step. I've flashed a NAND ROM multiple times and tried a Clockwork Mod ROM and it's the same. However, on the Clockwork ROM I Managed to complete setup and could send a text, only because my girlfriend text me and I could pull down the "Notifications" tab. It stuck on the home screen saying "loading" constantly. SD Card was partitioned properly too...
2) Gave up with a NAND ROM and tried Windows Phone 7. Loved it! Just needed to activate it. Got skype, got the number, America and Canada only. No problems, the guy gave me the number for UK and I phoned it on my landline to be told to call between 8 and 6 Mon-To-Friday. Fine, I copy my old SD build of android to my SD Card and tell MAGLDR to boot from Android SD instead. It goes fine, loads up, then restarts and I'm told "cannot find zImage", this process just repeats and repeats. Did I do something idiotic or?
Note: The SD build is from the original way of booting WinMo then Android.
3) Wake up lag. Ugh, I get such bad wake up lag. Unfortunately it can take up to 2 minutes for my phone to unlock. Next time I'll try and grab a video camera and record it. Sometimes I also have to press the unlock key numerous times for it to actually even do anything. My phone, SD Card or? There was no lag on WP7, and my SD card is a 16Gb Class 4 card.
4) Colours on the display become inverted. Yeah, inverted, but more towards the whitish end. Again I'll try and get photo evidence next time, but I have to restart and then everything is fine. Kernel problems, or is my phone starting to give up the ghost?
Many thanks guys, I aim to start helping out a lot more!
Jake
An almost happy Android & XDA user.
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1) & 2)Stick with WP7
To boot from SD, make sure u set up magldr to boot from the correct directory by going into services, and choosing the folder. If it still doesn't work, then its likely you have to do the following mod:
This Thread
3) Got the same problem, 8GB Class 6
4) Got the same problem, happens randomly and so far only on sense builds for whatever reason.
Haha I would, if there was Angry Birds and associated games
3) Bizarre... I've read it's Kernel related so...
4) Yeah I only use Desire HD builds too. Looks like it is sense based.
Alright Moon2, thanks for your help!

[Q] help for a nooby please

hey guys, trying to do my first upgrade to get win 7 on my very slow buggy hd2, i am following the guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478
and i am stuck on the first step, i have checked the SPL version, 1.42.00 i think it was, had phone on, connected up the usb, then downloaded and ran HSPL2_Run from my pc, and it fails on the usb connect, stuck on what to do
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I have now rebooted phone, held down the volume key and entered the coloured screen, connected usb, says usb at the bottom of the screen, and re ran the program, still no joy
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I have now tried using a different file on the link HSPL and i get past the USB connect and get a large loading bar but then get another error
Unknown error
Error Code: 0x80003
Always reference this code for eventual requests
Link used and used both downloads at bottom of page>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Boot screen shows
PB81100 SS-BC
SPL-1.42.0000 XE
MicroP(LED) 0x05
MicroP(Touch) 0x50
USB
Can't speak for anyone else's guides but this YouTube tutorial with links to the needed files was the one I used and it works perfectly...
hey mate, thanks for the reply, i spent a good hour trying all different things and doing them over and over and all of a sudden it worked, done all the things on the video, and now i have win 7 on my phone, i am sooo pleased with my self lol
only thing is my sd card is 2gig so will need to buy a bigger one when i got some cash, when i get a bigger one can i just use the pc, drag and drop the files on the card to the pc and then back onto the bigger card, or is all the needed files saved on the phone?
cheers
I think I did read something somewhere about someone using a partition tool to do something similar, but for all practical purposes you should assume a hard reset is required to allow WP7 to format and set up the card properly.
Donketdaz said:
hey mate, thanks for the reply, i spent a good hour trying all different things and doing them over and over and all of a sudden it worked, done all the things on the video, and now i have win 7 on my phone, i am sooo pleased with my self lol
only thing is my sd card is 2gig so will need to buy a bigger one when i got some cash, when i get a bigger one can i just use the pc, drag and drop the files on the card to the pc and then back onto the bigger card, or is all the needed files saved on the phone?
cheers
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Ywe drag and drop will work with photos, videos, documents, and etc. Or you can use copy and past too.
As far as you putting the new card in I think all you have to do is put the SD card in your HD2 and then boot it up. I think it will be like the first time you booted because WP7 uses the SD card for it's internal memory so it will have to format your new card with RAID and place what info it has to place on it. Atleast that is what I have read, I do not use WP7.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ywe drag and drop will work with photos, videos, documents, and etc. Or you can use copy and past too.
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It won't. There is no real file explorer for WP7 and I don't believe the filesystem is readable outside of WP7.
I believe you will also need to reflash WP7 to have the card work effectively in the OS.
Donketdaz said:
only thing is my sd card is 2gig so will need to buy a bigger one when i got some cash, when i get a bigger one can i just use the pc, drag and drop the files on the card to the pc and then back onto the bigger card, or is all the needed files saved on the phone?
cheers
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Check this thread...
Gustopher said:
It won't. There is no real file explorer for WP7 and I don't believe the filesystem is readable outside of WP7.
I believe you will also need to reflash WP7 to have the card work effectively in the OS.
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You may be right, but I thought that you could still use drag and drop or copy and paste if you use the little USB mass storage hack for WP7. But I have never used WP7 on my HD2 so what do I know.
T-Macgnolia said:
You may be right, but I thought that you could still use drag and drop or copy and paste if you use the little USB mass storage hack for WP7. But I have never used WP7 on my HD2 so what do I know.
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You can to some degree, but it's not as simple as good old WM and WP7 will most likely rename all of the files to add further complication. For a noob, best advice is to expect a hard reset
Well after a day at work, last night i was loving the win 7 on my phone, now i hate it....
Got so many issues with it,
1. Randomly reboots itself every 10 mins or so everytime, all day long and when it does it goes into a sort of safe mode with none of my settings saved, themes etc, and i have to reboot 2+ times to get my settings back, then it goes again after 10mins
2. when screen is locked for a few mins, when i go to unlock it and activate screen nothing happens, then the phone reboots.
3. During all these problems, every other time all the apps stop working, dont load up, reset fixes, not always.
4. Battery dies within an hour os so from full
Used [LEO_70]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA-HD2_WP7_V4_(13.Apr) rom
any others anyone can cecommend or maybe even Android?
Also how do i install a new Rom, do i just run in on the 5th option of Magldr or do i need to delete it off first then install the new one? cheers
Donketdaz said:
Well after a day at work, last night i was loving the win 7 on my phone, now i hate it....
Got so many issues with it,
1. Randomly reboots itself every 10 mins or so everytime, all day long and when it does it goes into a sort of safe mode with none of my settings saved, themes etc, and i have to reboot 2+ times to get my settings back, then it goes again after 10mins
2. when screen is locked for a few mins, when i go to unlock it and activate screen nothing happens, then the phone reboots.
3. During all these problems, every other time all the apps stop working, dont load up, reset fixes, not always.
4. Battery dies within an hour os so from full
Used [LEO_70]BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA-HD2_WP7_V4_(13.Apr) rom
any others anyone can cecommend or maybe even Android?
Also how do i install a new Rom, do i just run in on the 5th option of Magldr or do i need to delete it off first then install the new one? cheers
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Your issue most likely isn't WP7 - which is normally quite stable - but an incompatible SD card. I'd suggest you bring forward your plans to get a bigger card - have a read around (there are several threads) to see which flavours of card are more likely to work well - and prepare to re-flash.
You should note that the selection of a suitable SD card does not seem to be an exact science - there is evidence to suggest that almost identical cards may have varying levels of success.
So the bad news is you are facing expense; the good news is that your experience of WP7 isn't representative.

[Q]Htc hd 2 stuck on boot.

Hello,
I recently bought a HTC HD 2 Tmobile from ebay .
The phone will not boot up.
When i start up the phone it leads me to the windows start up to the tmobile start up then back to the windows start up and stays there and i cannot do anything except take out the battery.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Sounds like you are stuck in a boot loop. There is a few things you can try.
First check the battery pins and make sure you do not have any that are bent out of alignment with the others or that is being hindered in anyway.
Next you can download the official Windows Mobile ROM from T-Mobile. You will have to enter the IMEI number, look under the battery for it. Once downloaded you can try to flash it via USB. Just put your HD2 into the bootloader by holding down the volume down button while powering on your HD2 and then connect it to your computer via USB cable. You will have to have Windows Mobile Device Center or Active Sync installed on your computer so you can get the USB Sync connection you need. Go to here to find a link to both, just choose the one you need for the type of windows you use. Anyway once you have your HD2 in bootloader and connected the serial in the bottom white bar of bootloader should change to USB, this means you have the USB Sync connection. When you see the USB you can right click on the ROM you downloaded from T-Mobile and run it as administrator. I do suggest you let your HD2 stay off and charge for a little while first though to make sure you have more than a 50% charge.
If that does not work you can try running a Task 29 and then repeating the above mentioned steps to flash the ROM again.
If this does not fix your problem you probably have hardware issues causing the boot loop.
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
H0n3yb43 said:
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
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the hardware issue would be overheating cpu, have to get a new main board via HTC warranty (if it is not voided due to water damage or dropped).
Android is easy to load. Fast/smooth you want a CyanogenMod7 ROM, you can find versions for SD or versions that you flash on the phone itself. You can either run Windows Mobile 6.5 then laucnch Android from SD (dual-boot), launch Android from SD with no Windows Mobile, launch Android flashed from internal storage, or flash Windows Phone 7 to internal storage and run Android from SD (dual-boot).
The tutorials are all in the HD2 Android forums and HD2 WP7 forums.
initially I would try a hard reset before getting too technical.
hold down volume up and down and switch on. keep holding volume buttons, when prompted press volume up. this will restore to out of he box settings ie remove all previous data on the phone.
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H0n3yb43 said:
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
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As far as hardware issues go it is like XDA member orangekid said overheating is the predominant reason that comes to mind. Another thing is degraded prossesor connection or degradated flash/NAND chip connections. All of witch can only be fixed by main board replacement.
Yes I can help you "load" Android onto your HD2, just click the guide link ed in my Sig. I think everything you need to know is there. well except how to run Android fro SD card, hmmm maybe I should add that. Also you can go here for more links to very useful threads in the Android General Stickie Roll up thread.
Again I have to agree with XDA member orangekid, the CyanogenMod7 ROMs are pretty creaking awesome. But I do recomend the Hyperdroid ROM I have linked in my Sig. I have used it for my daily driver for months and the only real problem I have had is the latest update to the ROM the new updated market would not work properly I would have to go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications. Then find the market selerct it and then select Uninstall Updates. Oh and make sure you do not have the check box checked to aromatic update the market or you will have to do this everytime you use the market. I am currently testing the [17 Aug][SENSE3.0] Pyramid HTC WWE 1.35.401.1 - Real 3D [V2.1][RAF 1.9GB] ROM to sort of test the HTC Sensation's ROM and to check out HTC Sense 3.0.
As for your 2gig SD card no it will work but I do recomend you consider getting a 4 gig SD card. I have heard mixed results from 2 gig SD cards that people use to dual boot with. I personally have never used under a 4 gig SD card and have never had any trouble.
Thank you all for your replies.
I will Try out all the steps to fix my phone first. then i will try to load up android onto it and i will get back to you guys. i thanked all that have helped thank you so much. i will be back around sunday or monday with an update. wish me luck! oh one more question. would a 8gb be a good size micro sd card? or should i get a 16gb?
It really depends on how much space you'll think you'll need like, are you a person who takes a lot of pics or video, do you keep a lot of music on your phone? If you do then yes I would go with an 8gb. If not then you could really just use a 4gb sd card. I use a 8gb class 10 sd card myself and store a lot of pics, roms and backups and I haven't had the need to go back to a 16gb. Also you dont have to get a high speed card either, a class 4-6 is plenty.
If you decide to go the dual boot for Android I would look up a program found here on XDA called Rundroid. It will allow you to run many different Android builds from your sd card and is very simple to use. I would give the link but I'm not by a computer right now, sorry about that.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Hiii just an update . i did try to hard reset and it does reset but after i reset when it reboots it stays on the tmobile stick together logo.
and i just noticed if i leave it on like this and leave the battery the phone starts to get warm a bit on the back bottom side of the phone.
i will try the steps you gave me and see if it works. thanks.
I tried to restore by volume down+up and power and it reset but no boot. Pleasse help any one. i tried to do the bootloader ( my computer doesnt reconize my phone) it shows me all these codes. any help?
Heres a vid of my phone if it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2qQsSXPx-s
I dont want to comment on something and be wrong so with that I would take it to t-mobile and see if you can have it switched out under your warranty. I had a very similiar problem that it was stuck on the HTC/T-mobile splash screen and I sent mine in for repair through HTC. They fixed the issue and sent it back (for free), all I had to pay was shipping there. They do say that if they find something thats not covered under warranty like water damage/not the proper software they'll call and let you know if there will be a charge to fix it.
I will say that my bootloader and probabaly everyone elses dont look like yours. Just above the spl-2.08 mine says pb81120..also mine says Cotullahspl where yours does not. If you dont find what your looking for here on the site best bet is to send it in for repair. Even if T-mobile says you didn't buy the warranty or what ever you still may be covered through HTC. This also will apply even if you bought the phone used.
HTC repair can be found here.
were you not holding the volume down button when you turned on the phone?
I would just download/flash stock from that bootloader screen.
I was holdin the vol down and power and i bought it on ebay so.. idk if i have warenty.
Even if you bought the phone on ebay you still could have a warranty. In post 12 I linked HTC repair. If you call them you could find out if you do have a warranty on it or not. They'll ask if for the imei# and run it. Im not sure if its a two year or one year on the warranty but they'll be able to tell you that.
I bought a used HD2 on ebay as well. Mine was listed as broke and was stuck on the T-mobile splash screen. I asked for the imei# from the seller and then called HTC to find out if it still had a warranty which it did, so i bought it. I lucked out that my phone was covered under warranty, you may or may not have the same luck as i had.
Thank i did what you told me and they gave me a new motherboard on mine. Thanks alot

It's over my head... Android 4 and dualboot? HD2/Leo

Hi guys,
Hardware I understand a bit, hence me salvaging an HD2 from work (mine with broken screen + a waterdamaged one = working one after some hours work, I got to keep it when leaving the company ).
But now I want to replace WM6.5 with Android.
I just came across a link that talked about dual booting.
But I am in WAY over my head here. Half the terms in that link mean nothing to me (cLK NAND vs. Magldr NAND? what's nativeSD? what's EXT4?)
On average I read at least an hour a day on all kinds of subjects (electronics, cars/motorcycles, engines, networks, politics, construction, legal stuff, etc.), so I really DO try, but I simply cannot hack it to understand it all to a level where I get to play with the big boys... And in many cases not even with the medium boys (like in here...)
I have spend a few hours already on here reading up on Android, but don't even know for sure if I have read the most recent threads (one thing I remember is that the camera is still not working, there must be versions where this is fixed?)
So, now that I have felt sorry for myself long enough, here's some questions:
Can I indeed dual boot and keep the original operating system intact?
Will speed/free-memory/etc suffer? (One of my biggest gripes right now is the lack of free space in internal memory even though I try to put everything on the SD card which has plenty of space left)
Would this be a good dummy guide?
Any other links that explain it all for 10 year olds would be nice too... Then I can direct my 9 year old to read up on it on there instead of asking her dad...
PS: I know this might come off as a 'I don't feel like searching and want everything handed on a silver platter', but I hope I made it clear I do spend loads of time trying to figure it out myself, but sometimes that just doesn't work...
You say that you've really searched a lot and I believe you seeing as you've put so much detail in your post, but I still think the answers are readily available in simple terms.
If you want to dual boot, then it literally couldn't be simpler. If you have a TMOUS phone then just download an SD ROM from the SD Development forum, place the 'Android' folder on the root of your SD card (i.e. it should literally be /Android), run CLRCAD then HARET and you've got Android running. If it's an EU phone, check the radio version. If it's above 2.08.50 then you're good to go. If not, then find the latest official stock ROM for your phone (should be 3.14.something) and flash it (you could flash a radio separately but I guess you want a very easy way). Then just repeat the above steps about the SD ROM, CLRCAD and HARET.
If you want NAND Android (which is faster and has better battery life but you'll get rid of WinMo completely [IMO a huge positive ]) then follow this guide. It's incredibly simple, and you can try using the HD2 Toolkit (search for it) to help. Good luck
THANKS
There you do it again, using all kinds of terms that don't mean a thing to me :laugh:
But I think I've gotten enough to go on, THANKS FOR YOUR ANSWER. And I haven't stopped reading in the meantime, so I am a wiser man than when posting my thread. But still bloody ignorant
I will try to post back here if succesful. Although I know full well, that once it works, I tend to forget all the troubles of getting there, hence might also forget reporting back...
As for ditching WiMo completely: yes please, but for now I am way too much of a chicken to do so. Maybe after several succesful working Android tries...
As for better speed: it has annoyed me from the beginning that the startupscreen has a stutter in it... During the writing of 'quietly brilliant" the sound stutters
My phone (just for extra info)
5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila 2.5.19211619.0
ROM 1.66.404.1 (76641) NLD from 14th of Jan 2010
Radioversion 2.07.51.22_2
Protocol 15.322.50.07U
Wait, have you successfully booted SD Android? Because technically I don't think you should be able to. The first thing you should do before attempting anything is to read this handy guide from T-Macgnolia (don't forget to thank him) which explains everything for noobs. Once you've done that, try reading the guide I posted earlier (the same one is in my signature too).
you need atleast radio 2.08 to run android ... flash radio 2.15 you don't need full ROM flash...so nothing changes from your wm set up..
Then put any sd android build on your sd card by extracting the files.. click clrad ( nothing happens).. then click haret.. you will boot into android... try gingerbread versions first.. enjoy
Then once you are adventurous... install a native sd Rom... faster than nand builds if you have a nice sd card
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Nigeldg said:
Wait, have you successfully booted SD Android?.
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No, still reading up on stuff.
pakure said:
you need atleast radio 2.08 to run android ... flash radio 2.15 you don't need full ROM flash...so nothing changes from your wm set up..
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You guys feel so at home with the terms being thrown around that you probably cannot imagine how hard it is for a noob to find his way. I've just spend a few hours (after not being on here for days) trying to find a good explanation about how to change the radio to 2.15 and have finally come across a working link with the latest radio-file. But I think I first have to install some boot-loading kinda program (hspl) before it will accept the 2.15 file still to be renamed to leoimg.nbh
I've quickly read through this thread with explanations, but it's like reading a paper on nuclear fusion. I see the words, but they don't mean much and therefor don't stick or make sense. As soon as you learn a little more, you have to reread it and what first was Russian to you (or Chinese for the Russians amongst us) now makes a little more sense.
Getting to see the big picture just takes reading, looking at other threads, rereading, etc.
No worries, I'll get there, but it is very time consuming. *runs off to see if he still has a 1 or 2GB uSD card since trying to sell them all off when getting a batch of 8GB for our phones and Nintendo DS's*.
I'm considering getting a 64GB class 10, but lets get it to work first, then we'll cross that bridge...
Thanks so far, as said I should be able to work it out and will, eventually :fingers-crossed:, report back.
You may need to check if 64GB cards actually work. I've read mixed things about them, some saying they work perfectly fine whilst others say it needs to be repartitioned or something. Can't remember where these are from so I can't post any links, sorry.
Thanks. So far I've only read reports that they DO work on the HD2. But having one can never hurt, there's enough other stuff we have that I can try it in (SLR camera, tablets, USB-uSD-reader (which makes it a 64GB stick), etc.)
If the difference between SDHC and SDXC is indeed basically only one extra pin with no other drawbacks than not being able to use its maximum speed, then there should hopefully be at least one working application for it
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Thanks. So far I've only read reports that they DO work on the HD2. But having one can never hurt, there's enough other stuff we have that I can try it in (SLR camera, tablets, USB-uSD-reader (which makes it a 64GB stick), etc.)
If the difference between SDHC and SDXC is indeed basically only one extra pin with no other drawbacks than not being able to use its maximum speed, then there should hopefully be at least one working application for it
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Yeah I don't see why it shouldn't work. I thought that the only difference was that SDXCs were higher capacity lol, I'm sure Google has the answers.
I understand your problem..... the hd2 has had great development and umpteen number of roms... you need to read.. the more you read the better you become...i have been tinkering with my hd2 for almost three years now.... happy flashing
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dont feel bad my friend ...i was in your place just a few months ago now i am a flash addict..the first time i did it i was sure my phone would never work again . i am now runing dual boot ICS on nand and native sd JB. IMO i would think about using a ICS rom first it is pretty stable since ppl have had lots of time to refine it i use the Nexus HD2 ICS 4.0.4 Nativesd rom works great !!then after u get used to using it u could try others out !!
good luck!
Vince211 said:
dont feel bad my friend ...i was in your place just a few months ago now i am a flash addict..
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So I know what to expect
Right now I am puzzled by MAGLDR.
Of course I am not listening to your good advice of starting with an old Android and want to skip to the Nexus version immediately. (Not this one as it only has a native SD version)
MAGLDR should allow me to use a different directory than the standard /ANDROID, but it also warns it will wipe out my ROM... So not running that until I read up on it some more.
BTW I tried running clrcad and haret manually from this Nexus version, but it rebooted into WM6.5, so I'm missing something... (Put it on an empty SD card in a NexusHD folder, which in turn consists of an ICS folder and a file called SD_boot. I did not do anything with the SD_BOOT file, should that have been in the root???)
As said, I'll get there... If the phone doesn't take flying lessons into the brick wall before that... (don't worry, not nearly there yet.:good
(EDIT: I tried rerunning CLRCAD and HARET, but this time it won't run it (no signed certificate or it is missing something), and it added a small file in the root called EndFilt.log.)
The correct process for running SD Android is to have the folder containing CLRCAD and HARET on the root of the SD card, i.e. when you run CLRCAD the path should be /Android/CLRCAD (if your folder is called 'Android', that is). Also, the NexusHD2 JB ROM that you linked has NativeSD, NAND and NAND/EXT versions, so I don't see why you think it's only NativeSD.
Thanks! Am trying Froyo now (MccM DS V4.0 FroyoStone Sense). Issue with certificate persists, so how can I run clrcad again? Tried the red button, but it keeps whining the certificate isn't signed or components are missing.
(Found this, will continue reading tomorrow...)
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Also, the NexusHD2 JB ROM that you linked has NativeSD, NAND and NAND/EXT versions, so I don't see why you think it's only NativeSD.
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I meant only NativeSD (and whatever other non-SD options) as opposed to purely SD, which is what I was looking for.
Success!!! Froyo up and running.
I did need to do this:
Frome here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858348
Following simple steps:
1) Download following file: http://www.internet-tools.co.uk/blog...sda_unlock.zip
From archive we need only SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe
It allows Registry to be edited from PC.
Run it with working Activesync connection
2) Download Mobile Registry Editor: http://www.zipsoft.ru/catalog/mobile...tor-v1_11.html
Also run with working Activesync connection
3) and modify the following keys to the values listed.
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","0000101b" ,"1 ")
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","00001005" ,"4 0") (actually filled out "40", not "4 0" as that was not accepted)
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","0000101a" ,"1 ")
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","00001001" ,"1 ")
("HKLM","Security\Policies\Policies","00001017" ,"2 4") (actually filled out "24", not "2 4" as that was not accepted)
It perfectly worked with HD2, but I guess it should work with all WM devices.
4) Restart
P.S. Special THANKS to JZ SmartMort
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Ran clrcad and haret and it works. Next step is to transfer my simcard to start using it again.
I will miss my 7 yr old K300i with its standby time of about 10 days... (HD2 is company phone that I got to keep when contract ended)
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Why do you live in Antarctica with no power source near by to charge your phone?
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My wife has misplaced my charger, so we are stuck with one charger for two phones... (HTC HD2 and Galaxy S) When using the old phone, it is suddenly a non-issue.
Especially important as I went to sleep with 70% left on the HD2 and woke up (<6hours later) with a dead phone...
I *hope* it was due to my WIFI, the antenna-coaxial cable was unplugged, so I hope my WIFI and Bluetooth will work properly again now... (edit: theory being the WIFI wasn't turned on when using WM, hence normal battery life, but on Android I did turn it on, but only had reception when less than 3ft away from my router (which is deliberately placed on the top floor of our house, 20ft, a concrete and a wooden floor above our living room))
But I do have this issue: the screen is unstable, moves around, my alarms keep getting activated (edit: while the screen is shaking/vibrating, you see the alarm box being checked, unchecked, checked, etc), etc.
Anyone else have this issue? (This version software: Nexus CM9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjpspNaZ1Sg
(Re-viewing the above, I wonder whether this is partly due to slowness (edit: of the entire system and class4-SDcard) so if it is a response of me tapping the screen sevaral times to get the keyboard to appear, I'll see if I can get another clip of its quirky behaviour. I can't find similar issues when searching for "moving" or "vibrating screen" under Android and HD2, but there must be better search-words???)
As you can tell by my sig I'm on the same ROM and no, I've never had issues like that.
Just a quick update on using it for a couple of months:
Quite often it is very slow in responding (use the ON button 3 times before I can get 'control' over my phone).
Running stuff from it is very slow too (have a 8GB class4 card, plan to buy a 64GB class10 card to see if that fixes something).
Poweruseage is definately higher than on Windows, even when not using all the extra free games I couldn't run when still on WM6.5 The first half of the battery-symbol it seems to be very frugal, but it will easily drain the second half of the battery overnight. It will simply never last much more than a day, where WM could last 2 on rare occasions.
And I am not quite sure the high-speed charging is working, as it seems to take a lot longer to charge. But I have not found the Android equivalent of "Spooncharge" yet.
And then there's the malfunctioning of the screen sometimes. It is as if it is getting a signal as if I am touching it. It could be due to me repairing the screen, but I have used it on WM for quite a while after the repair, but it never behaved like this.
But despite of it all, I'm not going back
SIM-card trouble ICS on SD card after del an app
Android is not recognizing the SIM card (or something), but WM6.5 has no issues.
It's been so long that I forgot all steps I took to get here (here = a running version of ICS without an EXT4 partition on the SD in my HD2).
I did copy all files from my laptop ICS folder to the ICS folder on the SD card in the phone, but this did not solve anything.
Any time I restart android from the ICS folder, I get into the locked screen of Android, with the line that I can only call emergency numbers, I unlock it, feed it the SIM-password but end up (after several minutes) at the same startup-screen with the same "only emergency numbers" remark. Sometimes it will prompt me to reboot the phone (it will then go to WM, and when I start Android from the ICS folder, it all starts over).
Signs that something was going wrong: Angry Birds would hang. I was going to uninstall it and came across another app I wanted to remove. I uninstalled it through the App's tab in Android, and Android never functioned properly since.
Any clues?

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