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Thinking of leaving my SGS

Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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What advice are you looking for? The android market is growing dramatically every day, you've had the phone for only a month and in that time, 3 great games have come out? What are you complaining about?

What "useful" apps do you expect to find for the iPhone that is not available for android? If I was looking for portable gaming I'd buy a PSP...
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I am looking for some information that the android market is progressing, that's all.
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If you can afford the iPhone apps why not. I feel iOS4 is great. Not that great compared to Android though. I need openness and customisability. I need an mkv and ogg player. I need something that truly multi tasks.
And I dislike iTunes a lot.
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The.Opethian said:
If you can afford the iPhone apps why not. I feel iOS4 is great. Not that great compared to Android though. I need openness and customisability. I need an mkv and ogg player. I need something that truly multi tasks.
And I dislike iTunes a lot.
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Thanks, thats the kind of reply i was looking for.
I like the built in support of loads if codecs too, my only doubt is the app support, but hey, if its inproving like the other guy said, this is a keeper.
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Either way it's what makes you happy that counts.
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I seriously doubt the iPhone get more "useful" apps than android... Good ideas are rare.
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@The.Opethian
Thats very true .
@mickeko
"useful" apps to me are apps that interest me lol
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No amount of great hardware or customization is going to make up for critical applications or games that you want.
I have an iPhone 3GS right now. I'm thoroughly unhappy with a lot of parts of the iPhone. I don't like that it's closed, I don't like major missing applications especially Google apps, I hate iTunes, I want real multi-tasking, I'm sick of fighting with jailbreaks... the list goes on.
That said, I am tentative about the move because a few apps are still missing for me. Games, I am not so worried about - I'm not much of a phone gamer. Right now, though, the negatives about my iPhone outweigh the few apps that are missing so it's time for me to switch.
You may be experiencing the opposite problem. That's completely a personal decision. I'd say, if you're a gamer, there is no better platform than the iPhone. There are really great games for it, more coming out all the time. It is absolutely the best mobile gaming platform out right now.
So do it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like this. If Android isn't meeting your needs, switch and be happy.
Me, I'm switching because I don't like the iPhone as a daily pocket device anymore. I'm keeping it to use at home, though, for the games and apps that don't exist on the Android platform.

azazin said:
Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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So what kind of advise are you looking for?
I read your post and all I got was I want an iPhone because of the apps, I don't see a debate or anything requiring the need for advise. Go get the iPhone.

azazin said:
Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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If you are after mainly games then yes get an iphone, android is still a way behind in this area and might still take some time to catch up, while developers are slowly moving to android they are really still just testing the waters with android I feel and many games ported to android are either missing features or far more buggy than their iphone versions.
I am sure this will change as android keeps growing in popularity but if you want lots of games now then obviously the iphone is better in that area.

binary visions said:
So do it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like this. If Android isn't meeting your needs, switch and be happy.
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Yep. I don't understand the need to have other people convince you that you want to stay on Android.
Just go to iPhone if you feel that suits your needs.

Most useful apps that are on the iPhone are on Android...if anything they did a recent study and found there are more developers on Android then there for the iPhone....
But there are 2 things to consider..
1) iPhone has a lot of useless apps that do the same thing
2) Not all apps are always in the market place..for example EA games has quite a few games but for some reason keeps them hidden..but you can buy them if you want to directly...same for Gameloft and many other publishers..
Either way Android is growing quite fast and will continue to grow...as of 2010 I have yet to see 1 major developer do something for the iphone and not for Android..

Dear azazin,
I liked the way you said. You want something to explore rite ?
Your my kind.. I am the same way your.
I updated my OS to i9000xxjp3 (android 2.2)
Its amazingly fast there are bugs when you use Mobile AP (Hotspot), but this was working fine on i9000xxjp2 .. The official 2.2 is getting released on End of September.
And you can also try installing lot of application which is available on market.
The searching of application depends on how you use your mobile.
If you wanna be a developer you can do that easily.
U Tube vide : v=I6ObTqIiYfE
There are games like Many and they are awesome.. !! Seriously 3d HD games are coming 2 our SGS ...
U Tube Video : v=OxdZWhga0Vw
There are many application you can check out. Google them out on your chrome and send them directly to your mobile ..
tc..

Symbian OS took 38% market share worldwide in Q2 (41% year-on-year growth)
Android had 23% market share (884% year-on-year growth)
BlackBerry OS took 18% share (41% year-on-year growth)
iOS came in with 13% share (61% year-on-year growth)
As you can see there are 2x more Android devices then iphone devices world wide...and the growth is unparalleled...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-sales-almost-900-q2

I've also read that Samsung is very happy with the Samsung Galaxy S, so much that the next major upgrade is going to be sometime in 3Q 2011. They are trying to do a yearly roadmap kinda like the iPhone. That's big for a company like Samsung that pretty much sh*ts fones left right and center.

For me I changed to the SGS from the 3G because I was sick of the way Steve Jobs thinks he can decide what apps and which websites I can visit (Flash!).
I liked the Iphone but in the end I felt it was to restrictive, all the apps I had on the Iphone I have now found in the market and a few that allow me to do things Apple told me I didn't need to do (GRRRR!).
I can now layout my own home screen with my own wallpaper and list today's appointments, which I could only do after jailbreaking the Iphone and even then it was limited.
My only issue with the SGS is the battery life, my 3G was better even after 18 months of usage.

Keep it. Samsung did an awesome job with this one and if they keep the Galaxy S as a whole series (like the iPhone) we'll see some big stuff coming from them. I think samsung is throwing the first stones in order to become the reference on Android smartphones.
On the other hand. If you really want games... Yeah, get an iPhone...
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Go for the iphone mate, better apps for now, but not for long
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EVO tablet

I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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babyschoof said:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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Froyo vs iOS5

My circle of friends are all Apple fans, recently one of them updated to iOS5. He's so excited about it, showing me iPhone can do this do that now. Uhm, Android had all of this a year ago hahahha!!! And I'm still on Froyo. Imagine all the new features in Gingerbread and Honeycomb
Apple is losing in hardware and OS features, so they'll keep suing with Patents.

can we never be in peace seriously?
iOS and Android are two completely different things.

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can we never be in peace seriously?
iOS and Android are two completely different things.
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Actually no they aren't. They are so much alike that fighting over them is stupid and pointless.
Both companies can be accused of copying one another when it comes to features.

Its all a matter of personal preference, I prefer Android while others prefer ios, or blackberry or symbian etc. The only reason I dislike apple is not because of their products, but rather their terrible business ethics, otherwise i will admit that the iphone while not my flavour is a good device.

atoz350 said:
Actually no they aren't. They are so much alike that fighting over them is stupid and pointless.
Both companies can be accused of copying one another when it comes to features.
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Not when it comes to business practices. Apple has hardware and software that is constantly CAPABLE of doing more, and a simple jailbreak makes it fully capable of almost everything android does. They would rather just sell you features slowly over time.
Whatever iphone 5 can do, iphone 3g probably could have done perfectly well, only now they dont have to truly TRY to make something awesome for people to buy it like android based phones do.
So yea, the devices ARE different.. try to bluetooth a file to someone on an iphone, or really even save a file, or so many other simple things. It COULD be very similar devices except apple is all about slowly selling you functionality and calling it innovation.
The OP has a point, Froyo, as much as we ***** about it, is capable of TONS more than the newest iphone. The only thing apple REALLY has is a following which attracts developers and great hardware that isn't fully utilized.

I just hate iphone fans and apple thats all the products are not.bad at all i still prefer android over ios but if they give me a free iphone i wouldnt complaint, i do agree with the op. Now whos exited about samsung galaxy notes??? I am!!!!!
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I love the look of honeycomb, but it still has issues like choppines, not smooth, the stock browser is not good, lack of optimized apps... It doesn't even have an optimized Facebook app but there are third party Facebook apps anyway.. You can't even write a review on the market place and Google seems to be not planning on updating it til the next android version.. Pffffft
I have the gslate and i love it, but it doesn't run like how i want it to be being a dual core... Wish we have an OC kernel for it..
On android, it must have good hardware for it to run sleek.. My brother and his wife both have the touchpad, the browser on that one is fantastic! Why Can't android be like that? Oh yah it must be the widgets hence the choppines.. But it's fine i still prefer android no matter what..
Oh i just thought that if the touchpad was a hit, i bet apple would sue hp because it looks more similar to the ipad than the Galaxy tab does... Samsung is doing well in the mobile industry, making great mobile products, overall innovating... ,apple can't stand it

I think I'm going to switch from Android to iOS with the upcoming iPhone 5.
I just want a phone that works, and works all the time. Aside from antenna-gate, iPhone seems to be a solid and stable device.
I'm tired of messing with my phone. No Android device I have owned has been problem free, but it seems like many iPhones just work and work flawlessly.
Anyways, still undecided until the iPhone is actually released next month.

Yup, iphone is very stable.
Good thing I don't get tired of android though I do get tired of flashing roms that's why I'm using he most stable rom for me.
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You guys think that's cool. MIUI blows them all out of the water due to one fact: THEME CHANGER>>>>its sooooo cool! Like having a new rom in 2 seconds. I have been using a cheezit theme forever but I have a hundred different ones downloaded like transformers etc. Its the coolest **** ever. I could care less about anything else. It changes EVERYTHING VISUAL on your phone.

The thing that makes android win over iPhone, the one fact I've never heard a good argument for.. android will let you customize everything. Literally. Ios, though it works consistently, doesn't let you have control of most things. Its based on their business model, and some users don't want to have to be responsible for their devices.. but android wins simply because if the hardware can do something, and as a user, or as a community, you want it bad enough.. you can make it do it.
I wouldn't be as against apple as I am if they didn't fight jailbreaking like they do. Development is hindered by constantly having to find new exploits. Their devices CAN be amazing, but then they'd have to work harder to amaze you if they allowed the hardware to do everything it can do right now.
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Do any of you know if iOS have an App drawer? Or do you need an App for that?
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Do any of you know if iOS have an App drawer? Or do you need an App for that?
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as far as i know, there is nothing close ot a app drawer on iOS, the closest that I personally would consider a "app drawer" is a folder.

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as far as i know, there is nothing close ot a app drawer on iOS, the closest that I personally would consider a "app drawer" is a folder.
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lol that reason alone wouldn't make me want an iPhone.

Y is it froyo vs ios5 y not gingerbread
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Its more like GB vs iOS5

just like osx will never be able to do what my ubuntu can, ios will never do what my android can, and i'm just talking the os not hardware.

funeralthirst said:
just like osx will never be able to do what my ubuntu can, ios will never do what my android can, and i'm just talking the os not hardware.
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Mind listing just 10 things that iOS will never do that your Android can?

SamsungVibrant said:
Mind listing just 10 things that iOS will never do that your Android can?
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why do i need 10? if it can do one thing that ios never will that should be sufficient considering android can do everything ios can...

Jasonhunterx said:
Y is it froyo vs ios5 y not gingerbread
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Reason I've title it "Froyo vs iOS5" because most of the new features in iOS5 are in Froyo already. Gingerbread has more features that iOS5 can't be comparable.
iOS is very stable just can't customize it to my liking, that's why I like/use Android.

To developers or cookers! Some humble suggestions!

First let me take opportunity to thank all developers, cookers, kernel makers, app makers, theme makers and everyone for their outstanding job for our beloved SII!
I guess we all agree that the most wanted / sophisticated / beautiful (but not fastest) user interface is the HTC sense! And i know that there's a project ongoing to try to port a HTC sense 3.0 rom on our phone and that is really great!
However today i was watching the motorolla RAZR review and i kind of liked the user interface (dunno if it's still like the original motoblur)! I think it may be fair to give it a shot!
Besides there's the Sony Ericson user interface (timescape) which evolved beautifully IMHO in the latest devices! It looks classy IMHO!
There's also the LG user interface which doesn't look (at least from the looks) so attractive! It may look like touchwiz!!!
And i know there's a lot more!
So i thought! Hey why not port these ROMS to our S2!
I know there's a lot of launchers for android in the market! But i'm not talking only about the launcher, it's it and the widgets, the apps, the colors, the looks and the whole user experience!
So i think it might be a good idea if some devs-cookers try to port these systems in our phones or at least port part of it (maybe launcher and widgets and apps etc..)!
I think these might turn to be some special and challenging ports! I believe that few"non-routine" devs might give it a shot! (Actually i hope so).
PS: Please don't flame, or reply rude answers, these are simply some ideas; if you can't be helpful that's OK! But at least don't be unhelpful!
10x

I agree with op.It would be great to see razr ui
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Agreed. To have a selection of any of the above mentioned would be cool. The best UIs with the best hardware of the GS2
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Life Engineer said:
I guess we all agree that the most wanted / sophisticated / beautiful (but not fastest) user interface is the HTC sense!
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As per your request, I am not being rude, flaming nor being unhelpful, but I'd like to know your factual basis for what I interpret as a gross generalisation?
I personally wouldn't use any of your adjectives to describe Sense.
So who are all these people who concur with your opinion of sophistication etc?
Again, I stress I'm not hating - just at a loss to see how you can justify this statement.

tbh since ICS launch i doubt your going to find many interested, but i'm still all for it. my wish is someone would make an app to make using any widget possible, on any launcher, and any rom. that would be amazing.

I'd certainly be interested in playing with a port of Sony's latest Timescape UI & social network integration apps... never been much of a fan of HTC Sense though...

Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev .
jje

JJEgan said:
Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev .
jje
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Good idea
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B3311 said:
As per your request, I am not being rude, flaming nor being unhelpful, but I'd like to know your factual basis for what I interpret as a gross generalisation?
I personally wouldn't use any of your adjectives to describe Sense.
So who are all these people who concur with your opinion of sophistication etc?
Again, I stress I'm not hating - just at a loss to see how you can justify this statement.
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Ok man you're right! Not everyone likes sense!
However, if we want to rely on most users opinion, and especially on professional reviews (say endgaget, gsmarena, etc...) they all say that the best custom user interface for android is htc sense!
Personally, I had htc desirehd running sense 3.5 and it was wonderful!
Again you're right I shouldn't have generalized!
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JJEgan said:
Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev .
jje
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Hehe I promise you that once I get one for myself I will donate one to you!
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Life Engineer said:
Ok man you're right! Not everyone likes sense!
However, if we want to rely on most users opinion, and especially on professional reviews (say endgaget, gsmarena, etc...) they all say that the best custom user interface for android is htc sense!
Personally, I had htc desirehd running sense 3.5 and it was wonderful!
Again you're right I shouldn't have generalized!
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actually lately engadget has been dissing sense, and i had the inspire (the U.S. Version of the desire hd) and thought sense 3.5 was a step down and that the sensation XE, OG Sensation, etc sense 3.0 was the best. it still wasn't perfect and i preferred aosp and touchiwz which is why i got my at&t s2

Life Engineer said:
Ok man you're right! Not everyone likes sense!
However, if we want to rely on most users opinion, and especially on professional reviews (say endgaget, gsmarena, etc...) they all say that the best custom user interface for android is htc sense!
Personally, I had htc desirehd running sense 3.5 and it was wonderful!
Again you're right I shouldn't have generalized!
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Sorry, I find Sense tacky and slow, with some weird UI elements, like the shiny sliding tabs.
Starting with ICS, they should make Sense an optional install after initial setup. Same goes to touchwiz, blur, timescape etc.
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I find sense laggy and a resource hog, overall making it a bad software product. Anyways not much interest really for either UIs. Please do no take this personally any dev, but a lot here are not actually skilled enough to achieve a port, some do not even know how to code much less. There are some, but it is few.
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JJEgan said:
Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev
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I know you meant it partly in jest, but in reality we already have the SGS2, we just need Razr firmware and a dedicated hacker!

Guys unless you are going to be able to hack the proprietary files to tun on none supported devices it is not going to happen. Like with sense. It looks for HTC framework files and HTC drivers. Some of the best hackers here have tried and without the needed framework files and drivers it doesn't work. Not to mention the last time some one even got close they got a C&D order from HTC. So even it it could be done HTC would never allow it and MOTO would do the same

Amazing Multitasking for android

Could you imagin doing this on our Notes!!
(http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/)
i've been watching these Onskreen lot with excitement for the last couple of months and it now seems like this is no longer Vaporware as they now beta testing it on the Motorola Xoom!!! - Hopefully it comes to more devices soon!!!

Can't wait!!

Oh, how I've dreamed about having a small Skype video widget tucked up in the corner, while I'm looking at other things...

It'll be worth the wait ;-)
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Looks interesting - I don't know how useful it will be on the Note, though.

Yeah, it looks good but it might get pretty small and difficult to use on the Note.

leppo said:
Oh, how I've dreamed about having a small Skype video widget tucked up in the corner, while I'm looking at other things...
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Wave Launcher currently allows widgets to be popped up over the current app. Obviously it gets in the way, and there is not really enough room on the Note. This approach does seem great for tablets, but for the Note? I need every pixel to see what I am using, having tired old eyes.
To be honest I always assumed a tablet could be used a bit like that. I'll find out when my FlyTouch5 arrives, I guess!

When is the release date?
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This app is making my Note look pretty small. Hopefully once the eyes get trained, it should not be that difficult on note atleast for few apps !!!

Since your note has a high resolution it won't eat up too much screen space.
It will be small yes, like everything on the note.....

Feb?
rossygnol said:
When is the release date?
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They say Feb. I am v interested, I must say!

Expect a release very soon ;-)
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Pretty ****ty if you ask me.
They've just mashed everything together and hoped it sticks. I've designed a better way of doing it...if only I could code it into a Cyanogen ROM !

Oh, wow...this really looks promising! Looking forward!

Kangal said:
Pretty ****ty if you ask me.
They've just mashed everything together and hoped it sticks. I've designed a better way of doing it...if only I could code it into a Cyanogen ROM !
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Any demos on what you have done Kangal??
I am very very interested in the ability to properly multitask in android and would pay for your app/hack if it is on the same level as cornerstone as I am in dire need of this functionality... Seriously.

qazzi76 said:
Any demos on what you have done Kangal??
I am very very interested in the ability to properly multitask in android and would pay for your app/hack if it is on the same level as cornerstone as I am in dire need of this functionality... Seriously.
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Me too!
I'm coming from a Nokia N900 and I really miss the multitasking concept on its maemo operating system.
Best multitasking mobile system that I've seen so far by now.
Regards.

Kangal said:
Pretty ****ty if you ask me.
They've just mashed everything together and hoped it sticks. I've designed a better way of doing it...if only I could code it into a Cyanogen ROM !
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Hi Kangal. Too me, it makes a good compromise between a desktop environment and android's current state. I also like how it partitions the screen. Anyways they have gone open source and are providing a ROM for Motorola Xoom and source code for developers to incorporate into other devices and improve. This is a good thing!
Check their updated website.
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/