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[VIDEO] We've been baking something... Something sweet.

Has anyone seen this video yet? It's posted by androiddevelopers,it looks like google headquarters,and they're putting up a gingerbread man. I think 2.3 is coming... SOON.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vskBjYc745g&feature=player_profilepage

w00t, getting closer

Yeeeeeuh. Hope it isn't just another hype.

If true, then we are more than ready for it!

wdfowty said:
Yeeeeeuh. Hope it isn't just another hype.
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Same here,I just hope it doesn't look like MiUi. I know a lot of people like it,but if I wanted an iPhone,I would have an iPhone,not a Nexus.

yay!
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msnuser111 said:
Same here,I just hope it doesn't look like MiUi. I know a lot of people like it,but if I wanted an iPhone,I would have an iPhone,not a Nexus.
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Man you don't understand miui then. The general standpoint on a design for an icon is universal. Just because the iPhone used the format first doesn't make it there's. Android is all about open and customization without too much work. IPhone doesn't offer widgets or ease of notifications. Android does. Just because miui looks like the iPhone doesn't mean it is. Miui is heavily based on backend mods. Stiff if implemented right can be a lot better than anything. I'm on miui right now and I love it. Sure its a little different but its functional for a heavy user if configured right with good placement of widgets and folders and icons.
Next time you hate on something... just don't. Everyone is working hard to bring the end user something useable and not trash. Either contribute or leech. If you leech don't comment bs like that.
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Thats great!
Also have you seen this? (attachment)
via mobiflip

bigballa said:
Man you don't understand miui then. The general standpoint on a design for an icon is universal. Just because the iPhone used the format first doesn't make it there's. Android is all about open and customization without too much work. IPhone doesn't offer widgets or ease of notifications. Android does. Just because miui looks like the iPhone doesn't mean it is. Miui is heavily based on backend mods. Stiff if implemented right can be a lot better than anything. I'm on miui right now and I love it. Sure its a little different but its functional for a heavy user if configured right with good placement of widgets and folders and icons.
Next time you hate on something... just don't. Everyone is working hard to bring the end user something useable and not trash. Either contribute or leech. If you leech don't comment bs like that.
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I understand the whole don't hate on anything idea,and I agree with it. You like MIUI,it is your opinion and thats fine. I tried it for about a week,and it has a few elements that I do like,but as a whole,it felt too much like the iPhone for my taste. And this is after having both the original iPhone and the iPhone 3g,as well as the g1,cliq,cliq xt,hd2,and now the nexus. I have used all the operating systems,and if 2.3=MIUI,My nexus is going to continue to run enomther's theofficial like it has been.

Honestly, if MIUI really did contain elements of Gingerbread (like all the rumors everyone refers to), do you really think Google would just let it slide? Why can't we all realize that these devs put in some effin MAJOR framework overhauls into froyo, and didn't steal it from Google? If I was a dev behind MIUI, I'd be PISSED if people said that.

bigballa said:
Man you don't understand miui then. The general standpoint on a design for an icon is universal. Just because the iPhone used the format first doesn't make it there's. Android is all about open and customization without too much work. IPhone doesn't offer widgets or ease of notifications. Android does. Just because miui looks like the iPhone doesn't mean it is. Miui is heavily based on backend mods. Stiff if implemented right can be a lot better than anything. I'm on miui right now and I love it. Sure its a little different but its functional for a heavy user if configured right with good placement of widgets and folders and icons.
Next time you hate on something... just don't. Everyone is working hard to bring the end user something useable and not trash. Either contribute or leech. If you leech don't comment bs like that.
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Calm down... Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I too dislike the MIUI interface. The poster was just expressing, albiet inelligently, the reasons they do not like MIUI. That is no reason for your hostility...

EVO tablet

I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
HW003

babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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HTC Sense

I'm liking how quick things are going with this phone (already rooted and the bootloader is unlocked).
So, anyone attempting to port HTC sense 2.1 (or even 3.0 once the port to the WVGA-based DHD/HD2 phones is complete). touchwhiz4 is a nice improvement over the old one but let’s face it, it does not have a chance competing against the stuff HTC is making with Sense.
the ROM community development for the first S was a bit disappointing and am hoping things are much better this time round.

fatso485 said:
I'm liking how quick things are going with this phone (already rooted and the bootloader is unlocked).
So, anyone attempting to port HTC sense 2.1 (or even 3.0 once the port to the WVGA-based DHD/HD2 phones is complete). touchwhiz4 is a nice improvement over the old one but let’s face it, it does not have a chance competing against the stuff HTC is making with Sense.
the ROM community development for the first S was a bit disappointing and am hoping things are much better this time round.
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Not many people have the phone yet remember.
Also, the dev community for the original is excellent. Loads of ports!
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You should have wait for the Sensation with the amazing Sense 3.0

vegetaleb said:
You should have wait for the Sensation with the amazing Sense 3.0
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and locked bootloader

minty1978 said:
and locked bootloader
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Will most likely be unlockable like most other HTC devices. They wont be as big a c**ts as Sony Ericsson have been on some of theirs.

dh2311 said:
Will most likely be unlockable like most other HTC devices. They wont be as big a c**ts as Sony Ericsson have been on some of theirs.
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http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)

Summered said:
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)
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You only have to send them your name, social security number, IMEI, seriel number, and parents sex tapes in order to unlock it!

ryude said:
You only have to send them your name, social security number, IMEI, seriel number, and parents sex tapes in order to unlock it!
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LMAO
anyway, back on track.
i'd like to see a rom with sense, as I like the interface.
the LP Sense theme is a pretty good alternative.
hopefully getting my SGS2 next weekend

Summered said:
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)
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Only on the sim free models, any purchased on a contract are stuck with locked bootloaders! Had an arc, sold it! (To be honest it was just a temp after I sold my sgs 1 and was waiting for the sgs 2)
And back on the subject of sense, I like the widgets and thats about it. I need toggles for wifi in the statusbar. prefer stock lockscreens and dont particularly like the launcher, I usually used to use ADW or launcher pro on my DHD back in the week I owned it for :S

maybe this thread belonged better in the development forum.

the only real advantage the Sensation has over the GS2 is the comunity development and the UI. porting Sense3.0 would be a MAJOR win. not sure why so many people in the poll are not interested in seeing it happen

THE GRIZZ said:
the only real advantage the Sensation has over the GS2 is the comunity development and the UI. porting Sense3.0 would be a MAJOR win. not sure why so many people in the poll are not interested in seeing it happen
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Because sense is a memory/battery hog, for some people the best experience is created by launcherpro, zeam or adw launcher(ex) Personally I tried sense, miui and cm7 but so far I prefer my own settings and setups. (launcherpro plus with custom wallpapers/widgets and transparent shortcuts) Cm7 might eventually become faster than stock but will not have samsungs tweaks/audiocodex/hardware acceleration and Miui really has to be your cup of tea. Same goes for sense IMO, besides I think the appdrawer and bars are pretty ugly and could use some transparency, but thats my opinion.

Open WebOS Support on SGSII

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802075
It would seem that an developer (or team of) has started taking in pledges from users who wish to see OpenWebOS on their device.
I was shocked to see that the SGSII hasn't had any support thus far. So hit up that link and sound off if you wish to see OWOS on our devices.
I for one miss the hell out of WebOS from my Pre days and would much prefer to have it running on my Galaxy SII than Android.

Already voted!Galaxy S2!

allocen said:
Already voted!Galaxy S2!
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Good Job, keep up the voting!

lets spam TEH THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!

Why WebOS ??
just tell me
i really see no point of it, but infact you may convince me to vote

LastStandingDroid said:
Why WebOS ??
just tell me
i really see no point of it, but infact you may convince me to vote
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It is open source
This is enough reason for me to vote
And choice is always welcomed since the development has been slow recently is s2 section
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Posted.Why web os .Choice
IN CODEWORKX WE TRUST.

bartoloandre98 said:
Posted.Why web os .Choice
IN CODEWORKX WE TRUST.
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WebOS is a fantastic platform. it would completely outclass Android on our devices, (i owned a Pre, loved it but it was a bit shoddy and the sgsII would be a much better candidate).
Great user experience, great social integration, intuitive non intrusive notifications, looks pretty, childishly easy to develop for (as long as you dont mind working with Javascript) and last but not least (probably the most important thing for the XDA community) its hackable beyond comprehension with a ton of room to improve performance, change UI behaviour, theme and extend.
I think it would be a fun challenge and something that the XDA community can get behind

sabianadmin said:
WebOS is a fantastic platform. it would completely outclass Android on our devices, (i owned a Pre, loved it but it was a bit shoddy and the sgsII would be a much better candidate).
Great user experience, great social integration, intuitive non intrusive notifications, looks pretty, childishly easy to develop for (as long as you dont mind working with Javascript) and last but not least (probably the most important thing for the XDA community) its hackable beyond comprehension with a ton of room to improve performance, change UI behaviour, theme and extend.
I think it would be a fun challenge and something that the XDA community can get behind
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Votedddd
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Voted. It's good to have another OS on our phone
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Been there done that
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Cant vote. But support! I want it on my phone!!

kewachan said:
Cant vote. But support! I want it on my phone!!
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U just need to post your phone name in that thread
Btw guys we have less pledges than evo shift atm
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Do we have nice apps for WebOS? Otherwise it's useless.
Nevertheless, I've voted

Yes we do, you have both the apps in the official app catalog and then you have a wealth of applications, patches and utilities in the open source homebrew package manager Preware.
I didn't have to trawl forums for kerenls and patches to flash, i could just install them from preware and reboot and voila, my 600Mhz pre was running at 1.2Ghz or my icons where 6x6 instead of 4x4 in the launcher.
In terms of proper app apps, you have tons of twitter clients, books, readers, flashlights, facebook clients, chat apps, iRC clients, navigation apps, music and video players (some of them really really awesome) and more!
I miss Palm
p.s WebOS also had flash support for those who think it matter (i dont, dont even have it installed on my device)

If I had to chose only one I think Firefox OS is a better choice

Voted.

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If I had to chose only one I think Firefox OS is a better choice
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We already have it but we want MOAR
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I'd happily vote, if I had the 10 posts needed XD. I loved my unbrickable pre plus. WebOS 2.1 ran brilliantly for the specs it had to make do with, and I'd guess that if webos got running on the s2 properly, it'd make android look slow. Really slow.
It just needs apps, and a hell of a lot of love and new features.
Shame that the s2 doesn't have the capacative touch area the pre plus and newer phones had.
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Voted, maybe this will allow webos to shine on hardware it could and should have been on!
HP CAN SWIVEL AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED!
From PALM PRE to GALAXY S2... From HOPE to RELIEF!

Can anyone expect any HTC Sense based ROMS available for Nexus 4 sooner or later?

tiitle is self explanatory, just curious coming from a HTC wether (because im hell bent on buying nexus 4 due to spec for the price plus google update support) we will see any HTC Sense UI based roms?

Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?

Highly doubt it. People usually get nexus devices for the pure stock Android experience and having skins like HTC sense just ruins it. That's why we didn't see any FULL port for Galaxy nexus. Just unfinished ports that nobody used as daily driver
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel

It's possible, I remember there being a project to try and get sense on the GNex, but it would probably take a long time since there aren't many people who want it so the number of developers and testers would be small.
Here's a video of a pre beta that came out - video

No. Its horrible and worse. You will like stock.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+

After all the time I spent to make my s3 work and look like aosp on the nexus, including the on screen button with the hardware ones disabled, now that I've sold it for the nexus, it seems just mental to apply sense or whatever else interface ...to me at least
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People have been trying for a long time now to port Sense to various phones (Sense4All etc). Though there has been progress, it can't even be considered beta yet. So if getting Sense is a concern to you, don't buy the N4. Safe to say, its not gonna happen.

Red Wolf said:
if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
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This. One X is a much better looking phone anyway. And it may not be quite as powerful, but it's easily in the same league.

I really hope so. While stock Android is nice, it would be great to have options. Sense 4 would freaking fly on this phone.
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Antebios said:
Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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Lootes said:
What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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There's no reason why it couldn't, if there was a few developers that really really wanted to do it, it's possible. It's just extremely unlikely.

Would love to see a port of the Sense 4+ keyboard though. IMHO, it's better than stock (even stock 4.2).

I think Sense5 would be fun to play with. Sure most Google fan-boys don't like it, but it's still nice; just needs refinement (specifically for battery use).

i would definitely flash a sense rom on the nexus... plain AOSP looks a bit dud after a while.

If you like HTC crap (I own an HTC, and personally hate them for their policies, but that's another story..) so much, go for the OX+, which is fine.

There is a lot of personal opinion based guestimation here. I thought google flagships released all the device information to the public so that it would be easy to make roms. I remember the good ol days of the nexus 1 when if you got bored of plain jane you could toss sense on it. Get bored with that toss cyan on it. Get bored with that, here is a port for a different phone, and so on. Sense has GREAT photography features but it does use up a LOT of memory. Looks are a matter of taste though. If you love clean and simple and no bells and whistles then light weight roms are where its at. Sense comes with plenty of spaces filled in though. It truly is a Skin job looking modern and sleek. That's my 2 cents I guess.
so the short and most conclusive answer is: Its possible.

No it is not possible. Sense requires HTC drivers and frameworks. Many great devs have tried over the years and they all end up mostly not working for things like data, camera and things like that.
Sense is not a skin on top of android it is a whole different version of android like a different linux distro with closed sourced files that will only run on HTC devices.

Wanna switch phones man, sense sucks and stick with what you got.. I have HTC and 95% of the time I'm on a CM10 rom

Highly doubt it'll ever happen.
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