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Arg Small Rant. Why don't we get games like this...RageHD

It just annoys me that knowing Android phone having better GPU than iPhone while not having game that take advantage or UI hardware acceleration for the matter of fact.
Look at Rage HD released on iPhone/iPad Today, it simply looks amazing, and it ran well on iPad's last generation hardware. I believe the same game can run even better on Galaxy S phones; however, because of our freedom to install any application (ie. installable .apk -> Rampant piracy), many developers avoided Android market like fly's trap. (Gameloft comes to mind).
Anyways here's a short video by Gizmodo. Enjoy.
http://gizmodo.com/5693208/download-the-most-badass-iphone-first+person-shooter-ever-right-now
Edit: oh yeah, did I mention it was only $2 dollar?

Carmack has said they are working on Rage for Android next.

Yeah theyve already said they are making an Android version.
Graphics are amazing, but Im not really a fan of on-rails shooters.

Yeap thats one of the many reasons. I got like 8 hacked apk games my self! Plus apple has lots of support even through its not as open as android. Hope soon that changes. Because after playing a few 3d games on my vibrant I know how cool it would be to have a game like RageHD on android. One other reason is because there are way to many android devices with lots of different specs and that might be a big issue.
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Well...let me explain why this happens. The iPhone is great to develop for because there are essentially 3 devices (4 if you add iPad). This makes development and testing significantly easier and cheaper since you only have to support a very small number of devices. Apps that are iPhone4 or iPad only only have to be tested on a single device. For a game developer this is huge. This is why some great games only come out on Consoles and not PC's. Its because the developers don't have to test against dozens upon dozens of video cards, OS versions, screen sizes, RAM configurations, processors from multiple manufacturers. If you need to do some binary code for optimization, a single platform makes this simple.
All of this same stuff applies to Android phones. There are hundreds of different models, different screen sizes, OS versions, GPUs, Processors, Driver issues, etc etc. While app development may actually be easier on Android, its also much much harder to deliver a game experience across such a diverse platform.

Well if u like racing games check out Need For Speed Shift. Awesome game and looks and runs great!
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Augmented reality games are cool
Hopefully it picks up for us Android guys as well
http://vimeo.com/14778617
I would love to fire something up at the meeting

You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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Rodriguez92 said:
You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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No body speaks of piracy here, so I don't understand your point here.
I don't think Gameloft is withholding the games from the market strictly on piracy issues...

This game seems cool the graphics are awesome...but it not being for android reminds me of how much I want Pocket God for android.

I've been playing Hawx and Asphalt and I'm pretty impressed. I'm not really a gamer so ymmv.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Rodriguez92 said:
You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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True, but that doesn't make it any harder for them to develop for iOS, and only a very small minority of iOS users jailbreak their phones. Android comes by default allowing installable APKs. That's a huge, factorable difference. It means people only need to do a Google search to pirate software (unless they're on AT&T).
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New Verizon and the Fascinate...my thoughts!

Ok so i have had the fascinate for a while. I switched to Verizon because they have the best service in my area. I was on ATT with Iphone before.
The phone feels cheap but a great screen
It feels smooth when useing the apps but horribly slow when using the UI itself.
99% of the market is themes and ringtones.
No new games all are ports and old games that I had on the iphone a year ago.
The UI is ugly to me unless I use Launcherpro then it gets Nice. There are no Good scrollable widgets in the market at all. So far without Launcherpro widgets would be pointless!
The GPS lock time is horrible (Yes I know theres a fix coming, which some say realy does nothing)
Ive used some of the roms with kernels in clockwork mod... honestly I see no Improvment compared to Launcherpro... touchwiz sux.
I love the hardware of this phone...except the plastic feel. But coming from a Iphone i can say It just doesnt compare. Push notification apps are rare on android.
I know this is the best option ...only option on Verizon. But I do miss my JAILBROKEN IPHONE. With a jailbroken iphone I was able to do so much more. better theming, skins , even widgets.
Just my thoughts. I expected so much more from Google.

That phone sucks get the dinc
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jaysckap said:
That phone sucks get the dinc
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^^Lulz....
Please go get Another Iphone

If you don't like it, I saw that the iPhone is on sale, you could probably get a new one. GPS is fixed, just not in an official update, but it most certainly is working. And games will come, it will just take some time. Gingerbread should help significantly, as well as the growth that the Android platform has experienced the past year.
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You are completely entitled to your own opinion. I just wish people didn't share them on a development site. Go to cnet or something.
good day.

I'm starting to not like this thing either. As a phone with it's basic functions, it does fine, but dammit, there is an almost TOTAL lack of attention to this thing from the dev community, which tells ME no geeks bought it.
Back when I had my TP2, there was a ton of custom roms, and constant development that made that thing very capable.
I think you can even run Froyo on a TP2 now.
F*ck me this thing sucks.

chopper the dog said:
You are completely entitled to your own opinion. I just wish people didn't share them on a development site. Go to cnet or something.
good day.
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Agreed.........

chronster said:
I'm starting to not like this thing either. As a phone with it's basic functions, it does fine, but dammit, there is an almost TOTAL lack of attention to this thing from the dev community, which tells ME no geeks bought it.
Back when I had my TP2, there was a ton of custom roms, and constant development that made that thing very capable.
I think you can even run Froyo on a TP2 now.
F*ck me this thing sucks.
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there is plenty of development going on for this phone..however its not currently here on xda

Atleast im not the only that feel this way. I thought I was missing something. I played with my friends Incredible .. I liked the UI almost the same as my Launcherpro add on.... but it looked better with a few more options....but it was slower than launcherpro.
As far as Apps well I think its going to be like that Untill Google stops the fragmentation. They should force Manufactures to update All phones in a timely manner atleast for 1 year
Ill give it till January and see if any other options are available. I love GOOGLE but Im not loving Android anymore. I think the thought of openess was a great idea. But Its lacking with developers wanting to make cool apps.
Like I said in January Ill see where Android is at. If its not moving foward in the DEV/MARKET area ill get a windows mobile or Iphone.
Thanks guys!!

Android is the platform that recent surveys have shown will receive the most new development. More so than iPhone/iPad and Windows Phone. I don't think it has to do with fragmentation so much as it takes time to realize where the market is going.
Just 6 months ago, there were only a handful of Android devices out there, and most weren't exactly powerful devices that could do gaming and many other things. Because of that, software companies put their money and time into making games for the iPhone as it could handle games better than the Android phones of the time. Given the lead time in creating a game or some of the complex apps out there, places probably only started on them recently.
Android didn't really take off until this past summer, at least not in a mass market way. There were rumored updates to devices, but no one knew how they would do where the iOS platform had a 3+ year history. Now that Android has taken off, companies are playing catch up.

I just decided to return the phone. Ill wait it out till january and see what is announced.
Just not enough good Applications to warrant being stuck on this OS. If things change maybe ill revisit it again.
Thanks guys and Goodluck.

Word Lens - iPhone app... I'm jealous!

http://mashable.com/2010/12/17/word-lens/

That is really, really cool.

Could come in handy on my trips to Montreal, although there's plenty of English up there, I will no longer need the English menu at a restaurant!
Hope they create one for Android and also support more languages ( I think just Spanish/English right now )

Aw man... yea thats pretty hot.

Get an Iphone, if you dont want one then wait a little, and like most Iphone apps they will find their way to the fastest growing OS out there right now.

Yea I just hope its not at the slow pace we usually have to wait. There are still some apps that they have on IOS that we dont have yet so I just bought and jailbroke an itouch 4 gen and use my evo as a hotspot. Kinda like with the netflix thing... bad thing about IOS is its just one OS a year... good thing is it makes it a lot easier for devs to code for it without having to make sure its compatible for a lot of different versions.

Hope it get's ported to android

The reason its one OS a year its cause its one phone a year, and that what apples head honcho tries to bad talk Android because of fragmentation, basically meaning so many diff versions of OS's on so many devices that not all android apps are compatible, so he thinks his one device for everybody model is better than Android's choose the right device for you model, Go figure.

Well im pro choice, but in terms of developers from what I see they tend to agree. It's easier for them to make an app that just works for IOS 4 as compared to making an app thats compatible with Android 1.6, 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3. Not to mention they have to take account for things like processor speed, etc. That's one of the main reasons they will pretty much always get the major apps before we do.
I prefer Android as an OS over IOS.. and ive had an iphone before but app wise thats one thing I was kinda spoiled about when I made the switch.

I agree with you, but with now more Android phones out there than OS Im sure devs will work a little harder to get into the bigger market, cause they aint ganna leave all that money out there for someone else to take thats for sure.

Google Goggles does this minus the augmented reality.
Been playing with it and it's pretty cool. Translations are kind of goofy but still okay. Overall a cool app to show off but Goggles is better for actual use.

The app is free but each language pack is going to start at five bucks apiece, then ten bucks after the first of the year.
-Not worth the money-
Google translate does a fine job of translating words, has loads of languages, and it's free. So you don't get the geek factor of taking a pic to get a translation, but typing the characters will always beat OCR accuracy-wise, don't you guys think?

Forget cell phones, I want to see this built into a pair of glasses.
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Righteous Joe said:
I agree with you, but with now more Android phones out there than OS Im sure devs will work a little harder to get into the bigger market, cause they aint ganna leave all that money out there for someone else to take thats for sure.
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iOS outnumbers Android by something like 5:1. Even if you do only phones it's like 3:1, Android has marginally surpassed the iPhone in sales per month but the iPhone (not mention iTouch/iPad) has a massive install base.

Wonder how it works with weird fonts
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Good thing it doesn't use data, don't want to go over that cap trying to translate something Mr. IPhone user.

Award Tour said:
Google Goggles does this minus the augmented reality.
Been playing with it and it's pretty cool. Translations are kind of goofy but still okay. Overall a cool app to show off but Goggles is better for actual use.
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+1 several languages and its all free..no paying $4.99 per language like on the "other" phone mentioned.

brownhornet said:
Well im pro choice, but in terms of developers from what I see they tend to agree. It's easier for them to make an app that just works for IOS 4 as compared to making an app thats compatible with Android 1.6, 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3. Not to mention they have to take account for things like processor speed, etc. That's one of the main reasons they will pretty much always get the major apps before we do.
I prefer Android as an OS over IOS.. and ive had an iphone before but app wise thats one thing I was kinda spoiled about when I made the switch.
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this assumes there are no people out there with older iPhones. except there are. and sometimes apps for the new version won't work for them.

I tried the goggles thing and its nowhere near as useful as this. Not even close.

Hate to say it, I'll always be Android! But Iphone apps own Androids right now, and it isn't even close.

Getting a 4S. Thanks for all the help!

I've been here for a while with my Inc, and even though I haven't really contributed a lot, I'd like to say thanks to all the people who have helped me through the modding adventure. I learned a lot, and even helped some friends with it. I've grown bored with the OS, though; I'm moving to a 4S so I can be less tempted to make minor changes and more able to enjoy everything. (I'll still jailbreak it, of course.) I'd just like to remind everyone that both options are equally awesome, albeit in different ways, and that there are some of us out here who enjoy both.

Enjoy dual core 3G. I'll let you know how LTE is on a dual core phone.
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less tempted to make minor changes so you can enjoy it?
so, basically, you're buying into exactly what apple is selling: a locked down OS. gotcha. hey man, if that's for you and android is too complicated for ya, then so be it. enjoy your slightly upgraded iphone 4!

Coming from an Inc (or any 2010 Android phone for that matter) I would say that's a huge upgrade in regards to out the box performance.

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I'll let you know how LTE is on a dual core phone.
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It's pretty Effin badass, let me tell ya.
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tcberg2010 said:
Enjoy dual core 3G. I'll let you know how LTE is on a dual core phone.
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I'm waiting until LTE becomes available in more areas and is more battery efficient.
jayochs said:
less tempted to make minor changes so you can enjoy it?
so, basically, you're buying into exactly what apple is selling: a locked down OS. gotcha. hey man, if that's for you and android is too complicated for ya, then so be it. enjoy your slightly upgraded iphone 4!
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I'm more buying into an OS other than Android. I've pretty much done everything I'd like to with Android; I've installed tons of roms and tweaks, but nothing gets around that it's all still the same OS. I figure I'll switch over to iOS to enjoy the better app selection and other features, then switch back to Android in a year or two so whatever enhancements made over that time will make it seem fresh to me. I'm not trying to incite flaming here by any means. I'm just offering my opinion and trying to show that there are, in fact, people out there who enjoy the benefits of any type of phone, regardless of brand loyalty.

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pickleman77 said:
I'm waiting until LTE becomes available in more areas and is more battery efficient.
I'm more buying into an OS other than Android. I've pretty much done everything I'd like to with Android; I've installed tons of roms and tweaks, but nothing gets around that it's all still the same OS. I figure I'll switch over to iOS to enjoy the better app selection and other features, then switch back to Android in a year or two so whatever enhancements made over that time will make it seem fresh to me. I'm not trying to incite flaming here by any means. I'm just offering my opinion and trying to show that there are, in fact, people out there who enjoy the benefits of any type of phone, regardless of brand loyalty.
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Rock on Dude, I hope you find what you're looking for.

I don't understand your reasoning but good luck. See you at licorice or marshmallow.
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Enjoy the garden. I'll be here enjoying my ice cream and jelly beans, lol

You've got balls posting that here lol. I respect that. I hope you enjoy the 4S .
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Looks like I'll be going the same way. My dad decided to upgrade the family to iPhones and I'm not going to turn do a free phone, especially one that expensive. I'm still going to keep my Inc because I still plan on making some Android apps.
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pickleman77 said:
I figure I'll switch over to iOS to enjoy the better app selection and other features, then switch back to Android in a year or two so whatever enhancements made over that time will make it seem fresh to me.
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They had better app selection in 2009, maybe early 2010. In late 2011.. no, plus android has a slew of mini-app-tweaks that Apple would ban if they ever entered their appstore.
I think iPhones are great too, but for non-techsavvy type people. Grandma's, my mom, etc. People who don't know how to really customize their android phone. Android's without customization have bloatware, turd settings, often sluggish, they're just pretty turdly all around. I didn't really love my phone until I rooted it and customized it.
I also like the build of iPhones compared with the majority of Android devices. Anyway personally, I think you'll regret your choice after a few weeks or until you realize all the things iPhone can't do.

I'm right there with you OP. I pre-ordered my 4S the other day. Android has been great (well, cyanogenmod at least) but I don't have the time to install roms anymore to figure out which I like best and I can't handle the bugs in the existing roms. It'll be nice to have a phone that doesn't randomly reboot or activate speakerphone for a change. And I'm tired of carrying around 2 devices for my music/phone. I don't have brand bias, I just know what I need in a phone, and that's consistency.

hexon said:
And I'm tired of carrying around 2 devices for my music/phone.
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Hmm... last time I checked, my inc plays music... lol

zwade01 said:
Hmm... last time I checked, my inc plays music... lol
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Yeah I never got that argument. I think in some ways it shows brand bias. Best purchase I made in the last couple of years was some software that stripped the drm off my iTunes music.

You're right, my Inc has a music player. But it doesn't sync with itunes, my ipod dock, or my car. Nor does it have the accessory support that iphone has. The one thing I will miss is native google turn by turn navigation. I'll definitely enjoy the better battery life! That's the one thing that kept me from jumping to an LTE phone instead. But I have enjoyed the community here and some of the hard work a few of the devs have put in.

This thread should have never been created and should be closed. You guys are just gonna set here and go back and forth at each other.
This isn't an Apple discussion sub category.
Let's get back to Android development for our Incredible.

i have a hard time understanding one thing. everyone who is an ios fan keeps touting the app selection over android.
then i ask them - is angry birds free?
/sadface
then i ask them - what are these great apps not available on android?
/one reply - infinity blade
then i ask them - have u ever used easy tether? played a real mmo on ur pc using just ur phone to get internet while camping?
/sadface
the only thing magical about ios is its ability to make people believe it can do more than it does.

"But it doesn't sync with itunes, my ipod dock, or my car."
sure it does. research it. there's apps that do it for free, or apps you can pay for.

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You're right, my Inc has a music player. But it doesn't sync with itunes, my ipod dock, or my car. Nor does it have the accessory support that iphone has. The one thing I will miss is native google turn by turn navigation. I'll definitely enjoy the better battery life! That's the one thing that kept me from jumping to an LTE phone instead. But I have enjoyed the community here and some of the hard work a few of the devs have put in.
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I use Isyncr that sync iTunes to my Dinc perfectly

Open WebOS Support on SGSII

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802075
It would seem that an developer (or team of) has started taking in pledges from users who wish to see OpenWebOS on their device.
I was shocked to see that the SGSII hasn't had any support thus far. So hit up that link and sound off if you wish to see OWOS on our devices.
I for one miss the hell out of WebOS from my Pre days and would much prefer to have it running on my Galaxy SII than Android.

Already voted!Galaxy S2!

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Already voted!Galaxy S2!
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Good Job, keep up the voting!

lets spam TEH THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!

Why WebOS ??
just tell me
i really see no point of it, but infact you may convince me to vote

LastStandingDroid said:
Why WebOS ??
just tell me
i really see no point of it, but infact you may convince me to vote
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It is open source
This is enough reason for me to vote
And choice is always welcomed since the development has been slow recently is s2 section
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Posted.Why web os .Choice
IN CODEWORKX WE TRUST.

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Posted.Why web os .Choice
IN CODEWORKX WE TRUST.
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WebOS is a fantastic platform. it would completely outclass Android on our devices, (i owned a Pre, loved it but it was a bit shoddy and the sgsII would be a much better candidate).
Great user experience, great social integration, intuitive non intrusive notifications, looks pretty, childishly easy to develop for (as long as you dont mind working with Javascript) and last but not least (probably the most important thing for the XDA community) its hackable beyond comprehension with a ton of room to improve performance, change UI behaviour, theme and extend.
I think it would be a fun challenge and something that the XDA community can get behind

sabianadmin said:
WebOS is a fantastic platform. it would completely outclass Android on our devices, (i owned a Pre, loved it but it was a bit shoddy and the sgsII would be a much better candidate).
Great user experience, great social integration, intuitive non intrusive notifications, looks pretty, childishly easy to develop for (as long as you dont mind working with Javascript) and last but not least (probably the most important thing for the XDA community) its hackable beyond comprehension with a ton of room to improve performance, change UI behaviour, theme and extend.
I think it would be a fun challenge and something that the XDA community can get behind
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Votedddd
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Voted. It's good to have another OS on our phone
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Been there done that
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Cant vote. But support! I want it on my phone!!

kewachan said:
Cant vote. But support! I want it on my phone!!
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U just need to post your phone name in that thread
Btw guys we have less pledges than evo shift atm
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Do we have nice apps for WebOS? Otherwise it's useless.
Nevertheless, I've voted

Yes we do, you have both the apps in the official app catalog and then you have a wealth of applications, patches and utilities in the open source homebrew package manager Preware.
I didn't have to trawl forums for kerenls and patches to flash, i could just install them from preware and reboot and voila, my 600Mhz pre was running at 1.2Ghz or my icons where 6x6 instead of 4x4 in the launcher.
In terms of proper app apps, you have tons of twitter clients, books, readers, flashlights, facebook clients, chat apps, iRC clients, navigation apps, music and video players (some of them really really awesome) and more!
I miss Palm
p.s WebOS also had flash support for those who think it matter (i dont, dont even have it installed on my device)

If I had to chose only one I think Firefox OS is a better choice

Voted.

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If I had to chose only one I think Firefox OS is a better choice
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We already have it but we want MOAR
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I'd happily vote, if I had the 10 posts needed XD. I loved my unbrickable pre plus. WebOS 2.1 ran brilliantly for the specs it had to make do with, and I'd guess that if webos got running on the s2 properly, it'd make android look slow. Really slow.
It just needs apps, and a hell of a lot of love and new features.
Shame that the s2 doesn't have the capacative touch area the pre plus and newer phones had.
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Voted, maybe this will allow webos to shine on hardware it could and should have been on!
HP CAN SWIVEL AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED!
From PALM PRE to GALAXY S2... From HOPE to RELIEF!