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Upgrading our android market and games for good

Hi guys
I'be been downloading tons of apps since I got my HTC evo last month, and what I see on the market place is pretty much the same thing every day... there is not much new stuff that can really catch your eyes. The only thing that may do are the sexual wallpaper apps that kids can get access to easily.In my point of view, those kind of apps should be removed from the market.
Talking about game apps in the market, most of them have crappy graphics and the ones that have good or great graphics are the ones brought from the Apple app store.
I would like to tell you guys who develop games to really put all your effort and come up with kicking ass games with graphics that would pop out our eyes because that's what people like me are looking for and are willing to pay for.
It's not cool to have outstanding phones capable of pretty much everything and running apps with crappy graphics and stupid sexual apps that can ruin our children's life and even the great image of Android.
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Thank you for that astounding vision. Your cutting insight will hopefully make Android (and the world) a better place.
While you're at it, are you taking applications for your new communist state?
On a more serious note, if a policed marketplace and fluffy flashy games are your preference over functional but Spartan apps, perhaps you bought the wrong phone. The Jesus phone is what you describe.
Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable placing my kids on the internet without some sort of firewall to buffer. A good parent wouldn't trust a corporation to do his/her own job. I wouldn't trust even the holy Job's judgement as even he sometimes lapses, not to mention that apps are not the only way that Satan may spread his seed.
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berardi said:
Thank you for that astounding vision. Your cutting insight will hopefully make Android (and the world) a better place.
While you're at it, are you taking applications for your new communist state?
On a more serious note, if a policed marketplace and fluffy flashy games are your preference over functional but Spartan apps, perhaps you bought the wrong phone. The Jesus phone is what you describe.
Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable placing my kids on the internet without some sort of firewall to buffer. A good parent wouldn't trust a corporation to do his/her own job. I wouldn't trust even the holy Job's judgement as even he sometimes lapses, not to mention that apps are not the only way that Satan may spread his seed.
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I agree maybe the guy should buy an iphone and let apple run his life. That's the point with android buddy its an open market so you can make your own choices. Google doesn't control us like apple does. Its your job as a parent to police your children, not googles.
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skantman69 said:
I agree maybe the guy should buy an iphone and let apple run his life. That's the point with android buddy its an open market so you can make your own choices. Google doesn't control us like apple does. Its your job as a parent to police your children, not googles.
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Haha, AMEN! Speak the truth brother. Plus if ur kids has an evo then screw the marketplace, there little eyes can find all sorts of adult material on the internet, easily. If a kids wants to see porn then they r gonna see porn, its not hard to find.
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So much for a constructive dialogue, you guys take 1 of his 4 paragraphs and flame him for it, nice.
To each to his own on the sexual stuff in the market. Anyhow, what you are saying has been discussed quite a bit on this site and a lot of it comes down to a couple key pieces.
To sum it up:
1. IPhone has a standard arch that hasn't changed all that drastically which allows developers to code for one type of phone instead of several like on Android. It is more or so tweak s between IOS versions that overhaul like between an incredible vs a evo vs a Droid x.
2. Bigger end user community on iPhone.
3. More money developing for iphone than Android.
We are getting more apps and developers as we get more Android phones out on the market but it will still take time before we have a market place that has the quality of games and apps that iphone has but I am looking forward to it. I also signed up for the Android developer tool yesterday so that should be cool.

IceCreaMan said:
So much for a constructive dialogue, you guys take 1 of his 4 paragraphs and flame him for it, nice.
To each to his own on the sexual stuff in the market. Anyhow, what you are saying has been discussed quite a bit on this site and a lot of it comes down to a couple key pieces.
To sum it up:
1. IPhone has a standard arch that hasn't changed all that drastically which allows developers to code for one type of phone instead of several like on Android. It is more or so tweak s between IOS versions that overhaul like between an incredible vs a evo vs a Droid x.
2. Bigger end user community on iPhone.
3. More money developing for iphone than Android.
We are getting more apps and developers as we get more Android phones out on the market but it will still take time before we have a market place that has the quality of games and apps that iphone has but I am looking forward to it. I also signed up for the Android developer tool yesterday so that should be cool.
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Paragraph 1: Graphics stink, Sex stuff should be removed
Paragraph 2: Graphics stink
Paragraph 3: Graphics stink
Paragraph 4: Graphics stink, Sex stuff should be removed
Am I missing something? Also I didn't flame, just provided a sarcastic counterpoint and even honest advice for OP. If fancy graphics and sex-free market place are important to you, then right now, iPhone is clearly the place to be.
As far as graphics go: It's pretty clear to me that the difference in games is due to marketing. Apple hyped their phone, did a great job marketing, and as such they got big attention from developers like EA. You get a big market, of course EA is going to want to make games for you. And of course, EA is going to have the manpower / resources necessary to make big full feature graphical games. I guarantee you EA and other companies making graphical masterpieces will come to Android as Android Market sales expand.

Thinking of leaving my SGS

Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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What advice are you looking for? The android market is growing dramatically every day, you've had the phone for only a month and in that time, 3 great games have come out? What are you complaining about?

What "useful" apps do you expect to find for the iPhone that is not available for android? If I was looking for portable gaming I'd buy a PSP...
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I am looking for some information that the android market is progressing, that's all.
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If you can afford the iPhone apps why not. I feel iOS4 is great. Not that great compared to Android though. I need openness and customisability. I need an mkv and ogg player. I need something that truly multi tasks.
And I dislike iTunes a lot.
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The.Opethian said:
If you can afford the iPhone apps why not. I feel iOS4 is great. Not that great compared to Android though. I need openness and customisability. I need an mkv and ogg player. I need something that truly multi tasks.
And I dislike iTunes a lot.
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Thanks, thats the kind of reply i was looking for.
I like the built in support of loads if codecs too, my only doubt is the app support, but hey, if its inproving like the other guy said, this is a keeper.
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Either way it's what makes you happy that counts.
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I seriously doubt the iPhone get more "useful" apps than android... Good ideas are rare.
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@The.Opethian
Thats very true .
@mickeko
"useful" apps to me are apps that interest me lol
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No amount of great hardware or customization is going to make up for critical applications or games that you want.
I have an iPhone 3GS right now. I'm thoroughly unhappy with a lot of parts of the iPhone. I don't like that it's closed, I don't like major missing applications especially Google apps, I hate iTunes, I want real multi-tasking, I'm sick of fighting with jailbreaks... the list goes on.
That said, I am tentative about the move because a few apps are still missing for me. Games, I am not so worried about - I'm not much of a phone gamer. Right now, though, the negatives about my iPhone outweigh the few apps that are missing so it's time for me to switch.
You may be experiencing the opposite problem. That's completely a personal decision. I'd say, if you're a gamer, there is no better platform than the iPhone. There are really great games for it, more coming out all the time. It is absolutely the best mobile gaming platform out right now.
So do it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like this. If Android isn't meeting your needs, switch and be happy.
Me, I'm switching because I don't like the iPhone as a daily pocket device anymore. I'm keeping it to use at home, though, for the games and apps that don't exist on the Android platform.

azazin said:
Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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So what kind of advise are you looking for?
I read your post and all I got was I want an iPhone because of the apps, I don't see a debate or anything requiring the need for advise. Go get the iPhone.

azazin said:
Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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If you are after mainly games then yes get an iphone, android is still a way behind in this area and might still take some time to catch up, while developers are slowly moving to android they are really still just testing the waters with android I feel and many games ported to android are either missing features or far more buggy than their iphone versions.
I am sure this will change as android keeps growing in popularity but if you want lots of games now then obviously the iphone is better in that area.

binary visions said:
So do it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like this. If Android isn't meeting your needs, switch and be happy.
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Yep. I don't understand the need to have other people convince you that you want to stay on Android.
Just go to iPhone if you feel that suits your needs.

Most useful apps that are on the iPhone are on Android...if anything they did a recent study and found there are more developers on Android then there for the iPhone....
But there are 2 things to consider..
1) iPhone has a lot of useless apps that do the same thing
2) Not all apps are always in the market place..for example EA games has quite a few games but for some reason keeps them hidden..but you can buy them if you want to directly...same for Gameloft and many other publishers..
Either way Android is growing quite fast and will continue to grow...as of 2010 I have yet to see 1 major developer do something for the iphone and not for Android..

Dear azazin,
I liked the way you said. You want something to explore rite ?
Your my kind.. I am the same way your.
I updated my OS to i9000xxjp3 (android 2.2)
Its amazingly fast there are bugs when you use Mobile AP (Hotspot), but this was working fine on i9000xxjp2 .. The official 2.2 is getting released on End of September.
And you can also try installing lot of application which is available on market.
The searching of application depends on how you use your mobile.
If you wanna be a developer you can do that easily.
U Tube vide : v=I6ObTqIiYfE
There are games like Many and they are awesome.. !! Seriously 3d HD games are coming 2 our SGS ...
U Tube Video : v=OxdZWhga0Vw
There are many application you can check out. Google them out on your chrome and send them directly to your mobile ..
tc..

Symbian OS took 38% market share worldwide in Q2 (41% year-on-year growth)
Android had 23% market share (884% year-on-year growth)
BlackBerry OS took 18% share (41% year-on-year growth)
iOS came in with 13% share (61% year-on-year growth)
As you can see there are 2x more Android devices then iphone devices world wide...and the growth is unparalleled...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-sales-almost-900-q2

I've also read that Samsung is very happy with the Samsung Galaxy S, so much that the next major upgrade is going to be sometime in 3Q 2011. They are trying to do a yearly roadmap kinda like the iPhone. That's big for a company like Samsung that pretty much sh*ts fones left right and center.

For me I changed to the SGS from the 3G because I was sick of the way Steve Jobs thinks he can decide what apps and which websites I can visit (Flash!).
I liked the Iphone but in the end I felt it was to restrictive, all the apps I had on the Iphone I have now found in the market and a few that allow me to do things Apple told me I didn't need to do (GRRRR!).
I can now layout my own home screen with my own wallpaper and list today's appointments, which I could only do after jailbreaking the Iphone and even then it was limited.
My only issue with the SGS is the battery life, my 3G was better even after 18 months of usage.

Keep it. Samsung did an awesome job with this one and if they keep the Galaxy S as a whole series (like the iPhone) we'll see some big stuff coming from them. I think samsung is throwing the first stones in order to become the reference on Android smartphones.
On the other hand. If you really want games... Yeah, get an iPhone...
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Go for the iphone mate, better apps for now, but not for long
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GPU Power for Fascinate Overated because...

Whats the point of this super powerfull GPU when there are absolutely noooooooo games or applications that take advantage of it. NO GAMES for android what so ever!!!!!
Im honestly starting to think android is snot! Anyone else thinking about making a change to Windows Phone 7???

I'll think about WP7 when there are actual devices coming to Verizon, but I have seen no indication that they are going to be any better off on games. Just because they tout XBox Live being built in does not mean they have anything down the road.

Well iD software just hired a android programmer.
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Again.. why don't you at least ***** and whine in the correct section.
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Android has games. What kind of games are you looking for?
Check these:
http://www.gameloft.com/download-games/all-games/?request=games&keyword=android
How about Need for Speed Shift?
There are games you just have to look.

thatdudebutch said:
Again.. why don't you at least ***** and whine in the correct section.
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What? Why would we want to do that?

Really? NO Games someone correct me if I am wrong but I thought Angry Birds uses the GPU.
And please do US a favor and go to WP7 please.....

martyotaku said:
Whats the point of this super powerfull GPU when there are absolutely noooooooo games or applications that take advantage of it. NO GAMES for android what so ever!!!!!
Im honestly starting to think android is snot! Anyone else thinking about making a change to Windows Phone 7???
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lol, you should just switch already. Most of your posts talk about how you want to switch, so do it. Why torture yourself?

Sense: this thread has none...
martyotaku said:
Whats the point of this super powerfull GPU when there are absolutely noooooooo games or applications that take advantage of it. NO GAMES for android what so ever!!!!!
Im honestly starting to think android is snot! Anyone else thinking about making a change to Windows Phone 7???
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OP, I figure that once you learn how to type, spell, & understand good forum etiquette; you'll actually get a clue that Android is too "geeky" for you. There are plenty of games & many more to come as the platform & hardware mature but you're stuck with making a troll thread that serves no one here.

I think your thinking is backwards. Its this kinda leap in gpu that finally encourages devs to make more graphically heavy games. Why would they design something for a phone that cant run it well.
With all these new smartphones pushing out amazing cpu and gpu's im sure that we will see some major game companies step up to the bat and start designing for android .. just like they did with iphone once it could support it.
Also remember for many people android is the new baby, just became popular a couple years ago. And look at what has been done. I have owned many windows smartphones that have hads YEARS more time to dev and ive seen way less come out of them.
So yeah, go ahead and switch but i bet in 6-8 months you will be regretting it!

First off...Android phones Ive had.....Moto Droid, Htc Eris, Nexus One, Htc Incredible, Droid X...and now Fascinate.....So please dont tell me what Android is.
And Angry Birds is the simplest game in the world. Yes its fun to pass time....but any Android Phone can run it!!!! ANY!
Im not *****ing and moaning.... well maybe I am just a bit. But come on guys read the post....I said the GPU is overrated because there is nothing that takes advantage of it.....and the wait for OS Updates is ridiculous ....You all know this to be true!!!
Fragmentation is a *****!!
There will be no games or apps built specific for android that will not be built for Iphone....there all ports!!!!!! So please explain the point of the of a stonger GPU than Iphone? Hardware acceleration aside......Opera Browser might be the exception!!

Well a good gpu isn't just for games. It makes for a better browsing experience, better framerates with live wallpapers.
Also I'd like to add that if you bought an Android phone with the slightest amount of research involved you would have known that it isn't a great gaming platform. If games were any priority, you wouldn't have bought an android phone.
Troll harder next time.

martyotaku said:
First off...Android phones Ive had.....Moto Droid, Htc Eris, Nexus One, Htc Incredible, Droid X...and now Fascinate.....So please dont tell me what Android is.
And Angry Birds is the simplest game in the world. Yes its fun to pass time....but any Android Phone can run it!!!! ANY!
Im not *****ing and moaning.... well maybe I am just a bit. But come on guys read the post....I said the GPU is overrated because there is nothing that takes advantage of it.....and the wait for OS Updates is ridiculous ....You all know this to be true!!!
Fragmentation is a *****!!
There will be no games or apps built specific for android that will not be built for Iphone....there all ports!!!!!! So please explain the point of the of a stonger GPU than Iphone? Hardware acceleration aside......Opera Browser might be the exception!!
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I linked you to games.
Quite whining about fragmentation. That's just a buzz word people like to use instead of the real reason for not creating a product.
So what if there are no games built specifically for Android? Your point would be what? The fact remains that there are games for Android even if your not happy with them.
You could always move to the iPhone. Maybe that would make you feel better.

No games take advantage of the GPU.
Thats funny.

I've been checking out the psx emulator lately. It runs extremely smooth on this phone. And there are like 700 games to download for free in the rom buddy app. I'm pretty sure that takes advantage of the bad ass gpu. There are also emulators for several other classic game systems. I grew up playing that stuff, so it's pretty fun to go back to.
And sure we're waiting for froyo, but I don't mind the wait. Fragmentation is only a ***** to those too whiny and impatient to wait for a minimal upgrade. If you're not happy with thee phone now, froyo probably isn't going to be the miracle to change your mind.
Just suck it up and go buy your iPhone... Like all the other dumb girls that roam Jobs' pastures.
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martyotaku said:
First off...Android phones Ive had.....Moto Droid, Htc Eris, Nexus One, Htc Incredible, Droid X...and now Fascinate.....So please dont tell me what Android is.
And Angry Birds is the simplest game in the world. Yes its fun to pass time....but any Android Phone can run it!!!! ANY!
Im not *****ing and moaning.... well maybe I am just a bit. But come on guys read the post....I said the GPU is overrated because there is nothing that takes advantage of it.....and the wait for OS Updates is ridiculous ....You all know this to be true!!!
Fragmentation is a *****!!
There will be no games or apps built specific for android that will not be built for Iphone....there all ports!!!!!! So please explain the point of the of a stonger GPU than Iphone? Hardware acceleration aside......Opera Browser might be the exception!!
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Could you please not post here anymore? I have yet to see you type anything on the forums that isn't *****y, whiny, or full of mistaken entitlement. What have you contributed to the community that you deserve anything?
If you want games, froyo or OS updates, wait patiently or go do it yourself. Or better yet, buy a WP7 or iphone and get out of here.

I have multiple games that take advantage of the gpu
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To say there is no games is ignorant.
Is there as many games as iphone?
No. but to say there is none is wrong.
A simple google search for 3d android games will prove you wrong also
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Lol. #noobwhine
Win7 Phone will not make much of a splash. It's simply not that impressive. Usually, software companies are not pre-emptive in their design. This is the first round of devices with this level of capability, the apps will follow.
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or go buy your ass a game boy this is a phone if I remember correctly
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What they said. When 360 came out there werent many games. You fail
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Soulcalibur (iOS)

Is this for real? true arcade/dreamcast version? how come no Android version?

Because ios is a better platform to release stuff on if you look at it from a developers point of view ; but this is also debateable... Here's a link for you to read up on http://mashable.com/2011/12/14/developers-prefer-ios/

These games make a good case for the physical controls on Sony EricssonXperia Play Android phone.

Hope it will be released fo Android soon.

Of course there's a lot of iOS games that would technically be better on android hardware (hence why I ditched my iDevice for an Xperia PLAY), but it's a numbers game, and companies will compromise the integrity of their software's working order if that means they can break into a booming market.
Truth told, this Xperia PLAY kicks my iDevices ass at gaming, but the market isn't exactly booming.
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Piracy is the top reason.
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Xperia PLAY , SoulCalibur and wifi hotspot to play online is a good thing in concept.

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Piracy is the top reason.
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I second that.
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Also with games you have to realize that they aren't making the game for 'Android'. Most games have to use the NDK to get the performance that's equal to iOS. Meaning each proc+GPU combo is like their own platform. Which is why Android games tend to list the compatible phones.
So when you think, look at the number of Android handsets! Surely Android will get X game first! Keep in mind that most game devs have to look at the numbers for models of Phone.
The Xperia Play has it good since it's userbase tends to buy every game out there And there are several phones that are using the same specs.

jonshipman said:
Also with games you have to realize that they aren't making the game for 'Android'. Most games have to use the NDK to get the performance that's equal to iOS. Meaning each proc+GPU combo is like their own platform. Which is why Android games tend to list the compatible phones.
So when you think, look at the number of Android handsets! Surely Android will get X game first! Keep in mind that most game devs have to look at the numbers for models of Phone.
The Xperia Play has it good since it's userbase tends to buy every game out there And there are several phones that are using the same specs.
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True 3rd point.
But honestly its all due to piracy.
Anyone with root can pirate so framework needs to be lightly modified.
But its just a cat and rat game after that, devs will encrypt hackers will decrypt
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You speak as if Installous and others did not exist.

But the market share for apple to android is ridiculous on top of that updates are constant , for the apps and the os.
I'm quite sure installous got taken down. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks
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But honestly piracy start on ios first and still today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's harder to pirate on ios and since it voids your warranty many people don't jailbreak, thus why it's more profitable to release on ios.. It's also easier since they only have to optimise the App for a few devices to reach millions of people whereas with android and it's hundreds of devices its slightly harder
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Got it on my iPad 2 and it's an amazing port.
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Nabeel_Nabs said:
It's harder to pirate on ios and since it voids your warranty many people don't jailbreak, thus why it's more profitable to release on ios.. It's also easier since they only have to optimise the App for a few devices to reach millions of people whereas with android and it's hundreds of devices its slightly harder
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LOL what? Many people jailbreak. Like over a million people jailbroke their iPad 2 and iPhone 4S in 3 days,that's not even including the older devices.
Jailbreaking does void your warrarnty but it can be fixed with a simple restore. DONE.

Ok piracy is a big problem but people want freedom on there phones.Make a good game like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 in online multiplayer. Its a drug!!!!!!!!!!!

What apps does the iPad really have that Google doesn't? Any Apple plp chime in? x

Is it just that the apps are not meant for a 10 inch screen? I just don't see why every review I read is that the apps are just awful for the Nexus. Can anyone who uses both Apple and android respond? I'm strictly android....
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darkstar765 said:
Is it just that the apps are not meant for a 10 inch screen? I just don't see why every review I read is that the apps are just awful for the Nexus. Can anyone who uses both Apple and android respond? I'm strictly android....
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A great example is Facebook. Look at FB on the iPad vs an Android tab. There are a few others that I can't think of but as Android tablets gain popularity (and they are), the market will push developers to develop for the 10 inch platform.
Also, they apps on the N10 really are not that bad.

MN_Bug said:
A great example is Facebook. Look at FB on the iPad vs an Android tab. There are a few others that I can't think of but as Android tablets gain popularity (and they are), the market will push developers to develop for the 10 inch platform.
Also, they apps on the N10 really are not that bad.
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The Weather Channel and ESPN Scorecenter are great examples as well.

I don't require many apps for my tablet, but Android has horrible options when it comes to sports apps made for big screens. It is just awful. As far as weather you should try weather bug for tablets
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Eddog4DROID said:
I don't require many apps for my tablet, but Android has horrible options when it comes to sports apps made for big screens. It is just awful. As far as weather you should try weather bug for tablets
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Yea, sports apps. I forgot about them since I stopped installing them on my tablet because they were so bad

Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/

SwiftLegend said:
Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/
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Paper is major one for me.

The thing I have heard is... If you mostly use Google apps they all look amazing. This perfectly describes me, so it won't be a problem. No need for weather apps when I have a widget and no need for sports when I got Google now cards updating me.
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SwiftLegend said:
Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/
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Hasn't Facebook already been described as poor for Android on all devices, never mind tablets.
In fact I seem to remember something about Facebook doing a complete refresh of the Android version only a few months ago. I expect this is due any day.
Now they throw ads in your face, I prefer my timeline widget (AP widgets) anyway. No ads get displayed. I hardly open the Facebook app.
Besides, opening the FB website via a browser (with desktop mode enabled) gives you far more control than the app on any other platform, including ipads.
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Cinemagram.

Its not the paid apps that hold it back IMO.
Most people use the same sites. Just want tablet versions of eBay amazon Expedia Facebook twitter. We get these others will follow...
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SwiftLegend said:
Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/
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Verge has no right to talk about app ecosystem when their own app is a messy ****. I don't care about reviews who scores while testing the device for just few hours. I think something seriously wrong with android app developers. They are lazy, unimaginative. Google has given very clear guidelines about app development. But most devs would just create a wonky iOS_like application. Google is too generous. They should clearly block such apps from getting to the play store. I will rather take a good 10,000 apps compared to pathetic 700,000 apps that we have now. when apps have the capability to scale properly as per the size/resolution, why don't they make proper use of it? if the app developers are lazy, they don't deserve anyone's money.

I'm curious, why don't BIG COMPANIES make tablet apps for Android? I mean we're talking about FB, Twitter etc. You'd think at least the big apps would have droid tab apps by now.

BoneXDA said:
I'm curious, why don't BIG COMPANIES make tablet apps for Android? I mean we're talking about FB, Twitter etc. You'd think at least the big apps would have droid tab apps by now.
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Good point. As for FB/Twitter, it's an interesting case. G+ is a competitor for both. Actually this should be even more incentive for the social networking giants to release a great app for Android platform. Obviously at certain point G+ will start gaining because of it's wonderful integration with Android. They should come up with proper native app for Android.

BoneXDA said:
I'm curious, why don't BIG COMPANIES make tablet apps for Android? I mean we're talking about FB, Twitter etc. You'd think at least the big apps would have droid tab apps by now.
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OK, I only know FB from looking over my gf's shoulder from time to time, but what could an app have to offer on a 10" display that would make you choose it over the web page? In my view even on my N7 online community pages (including this one) are better viewed through a browser than the dedicated app.
One exception would be fast user switching support like in the twitter app.

Randomwalker said:
OK, I only know FB from looking over my gf's shoulder from time to time, but what could an app have to offer on a 10" display that would make you choose it over the web page? In my view even on my N7 online community pages (including this one) are better viewed through a browser than the dedicated app.
One exception would be fast user switching support like in the twitter app.
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A couple of things come to mind: multi-touch gestures (maybe web pages can offer this, but most don't), being able to access the app without being online, and -admittedly this is just out of habit though- I simply prefer opening and app to a webpage.

iOS on iPad actually has some really nice features. The stock keyboard can be made into the split keyboard, you can close an app with a gesture (pinch with 5 fingers), switch between apps by swiping with 3 fingers (I believe) from the edge. Just feels very polished and cohesive.
I still prefer Android but iOS does do a lot of things that make it feels really nice.

hot_spare said:
Verge has no right to talk about app ecosystem when their own app is a messy ****. I don't care about reviews who scores while testing the device for just few hours. I think something seriously wrong with android app developers. They are lazy, unimaginative. Google has given very clear guidelines about app development. But most devs would just create a wonky iOS_like application. Google is too generous. They should clearly block such apps from getting to the play store. I will rather take a good 10,000 apps compared to pathetic 700,000 apps that we have now. when apps have the capability to scale properly as per the size/resolution, why don't they make proper use of it? if the app developers are lazy, they don't deserve anyone's money.
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It's not lazy,
If you want to pay for my time to update our apps to support the 5% or so customers on tablets, I'm sure my company would be happy for you to do that.
At the moment, any time I suggest it, it gets shot down cause my time (and their money) is better spent on the other 95% if customers.
I would love for that to change, cause I hate crappy apps on my tablets, but these apps don't write themselves and somebody has to pay for it.
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It's not lazy,
If you want to pay for my time to update our apps to support the 5% or so customers on tablets, I'm sure my company would be happy for you to do that.
At the moment, any time I suggest it, it gets shot down cause my time (and their money) is better spent on the other 95% if customers.
I would love for that to change, cause I hate crappy apps on my tablets, but these apps don't write themselves and somebody has to pay for it.
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Maybe there's only 5% traffic from Android over iOS BECAUSE the app sucks and not the other way around?

iOS appears more polished because it's been exactly the same since it's initial release. The "updates" they roll out offer no real value, it's all "nice to haves" like 5 finger swipe for close..... I presume apple would now sue Google if they used this in Android.........
Or they will give you a feature that you should of had since day one, I.E MMS didn't come to iOS for ages, then when it finally arrived all the Apple users all got excited..........What's wrong with emailing images? It's free....... :\
Google actually realease beneficial changes in Android updates - NFC control where hardware avaliable, USB OTG drivers, better task management etc - They improve the OS behind the scenes and try to make it faster, smarter.
I find tablet apps are improving a lot on the Play Store now - Agreed there isn't much avaliable in the ways of sports apps. The Sky Sports News Center on iOS is way better than Sky Sports News on Android . Then again this is not Android/ Google's fault. It's way easier to submit an app for Android than it is iOS so it's the developers who are bottle necking the market here. Also - Facebook for Android is being re-based and taken away from HTML 5 (Which IIRC is actually prefered for Android - must be something to do with Facebook server side). So hopfully we will see a big change soon !
On the plus side - if you have the know how,. There's nothing stopping you getting the Android SDK writing your own app and installing on your tablet. Obviously on an Apple product this is not possible without a jail break , heaven forbid if you might want to use a piece of hardware that you own to run your own software! You can do this on Android - out the box, no root required (but you already knew that )
I used to have a Iphone 3Gs and now have a HTC ONE X and a Cube U30Gt (Nexus 10 coming) I would never go back to iOS. I have a very strong, but very biased opinion on the apple vs google front so I have probably been a bit unfair to Apple here......... Then again I have used both brands on many occasions so the end user experience is there.
I just dont like the idea of having to void the warrenty to be able to use a product to it's full potential - which with apple you have to do.
I think the question here should be.....What does Android have that Apple doesn't? - I could write a list as long as my arm