Is this for real? true arcade/dreamcast version? how come no Android version?
Because ios is a better platform to release stuff on if you look at it from a developers point of view ; but this is also debateable... Here's a link for you to read up on http://mashable.com/2011/12/14/developers-prefer-ios/
These games make a good case for the physical controls on Sony EricssonXperia Play Android phone.
Hope it will be released fo Android soon.
Of course there's a lot of iOS games that would technically be better on android hardware (hence why I ditched my iDevice for an Xperia PLAY), but it's a numbers game, and companies will compromise the integrity of their software's working order if that means they can break into a booming market.
Truth told, this Xperia PLAY kicks my iDevices ass at gaming, but the market isn't exactly booming.
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Piracy is the top reason.
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Xperia PLAY , SoulCalibur and wifi hotspot to play online is a good thing in concept.
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Piracy is the top reason.
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Also with games you have to realize that they aren't making the game for 'Android'. Most games have to use the NDK to get the performance that's equal to iOS. Meaning each proc+GPU combo is like their own platform. Which is why Android games tend to list the compatible phones.
So when you think, look at the number of Android handsets! Surely Android will get X game first! Keep in mind that most game devs have to look at the numbers for models of Phone.
The Xperia Play has it good since it's userbase tends to buy every game out there And there are several phones that are using the same specs.
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Also with games you have to realize that they aren't making the game for 'Android'. Most games have to use the NDK to get the performance that's equal to iOS. Meaning each proc+GPU combo is like their own platform. Which is why Android games tend to list the compatible phones.
So when you think, look at the number of Android handsets! Surely Android will get X game first! Keep in mind that most game devs have to look at the numbers for models of Phone.
The Xperia Play has it good since it's userbase tends to buy every game out there And there are several phones that are using the same specs.
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True 3rd point.
But honestly its all due to piracy.
Anyone with root can pirate so framework needs to be lightly modified.
But its just a cat and rat game after that, devs will encrypt hackers will decrypt
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You speak as if Installous and others did not exist.
But the market share for apple to android is ridiculous on top of that updates are constant , for the apps and the os.
I'm quite sure installous got taken down. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks
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But honestly piracy start on ios first and still today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's harder to pirate on ios and since it voids your warranty many people don't jailbreak, thus why it's more profitable to release on ios.. It's also easier since they only have to optimise the App for a few devices to reach millions of people whereas with android and it's hundreds of devices its slightly harder
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It's harder to pirate on ios and since it voids your warranty many people don't jailbreak, thus why it's more profitable to release on ios.. It's also easier since they only have to optimise the App for a few devices to reach millions of people whereas with android and it's hundreds of devices its slightly harder
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LOL what? Many people jailbreak. Like over a million people jailbroke their iPad 2 and iPhone 4S in 3 days,that's not even including the older devices.
Jailbreaking does void your warrarnty but it can be fixed with a simple restore. DONE.
Ok piracy is a big problem but people want freedom on there phones.Make a good game like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 in online multiplayer. Its a drug!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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What advice are you looking for? The android market is growing dramatically every day, you've had the phone for only a month and in that time, 3 great games have come out? What are you complaining about?
What "useful" apps do you expect to find for the iPhone that is not available for android? If I was looking for portable gaming I'd buy a PSP...
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I am looking for some information that the android market is progressing, that's all.
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If you can afford the iPhone apps why not. I feel iOS4 is great. Not that great compared to Android though. I need openness and customisability. I need an mkv and ogg player. I need something that truly multi tasks.
And I dislike iTunes a lot.
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If you can afford the iPhone apps why not. I feel iOS4 is great. Not that great compared to Android though. I need openness and customisability. I need an mkv and ogg player. I need something that truly multi tasks.
And I dislike iTunes a lot.
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Thanks, thats the kind of reply i was looking for.
I like the built in support of loads if codecs too, my only doubt is the app support, but hey, if its inproving like the other guy said, this is a keeper.
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Either way it's what makes you happy that counts.
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I seriously doubt the iPhone get more "useful" apps than android... Good ideas are rare.
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Thats very true .
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"useful" apps to me are apps that interest me lol
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No amount of great hardware or customization is going to make up for critical applications or games that you want.
I have an iPhone 3GS right now. I'm thoroughly unhappy with a lot of parts of the iPhone. I don't like that it's closed, I don't like major missing applications especially Google apps, I hate iTunes, I want real multi-tasking, I'm sick of fighting with jailbreaks... the list goes on.
That said, I am tentative about the move because a few apps are still missing for me. Games, I am not so worried about - I'm not much of a phone gamer. Right now, though, the negatives about my iPhone outweigh the few apps that are missing so it's time for me to switch.
You may be experiencing the opposite problem. That's completely a personal decision. I'd say, if you're a gamer, there is no better platform than the iPhone. There are really great games for it, more coming out all the time. It is absolutely the best mobile gaming platform out right now.
So do it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like this. If Android isn't meeting your needs, switch and be happy.
Me, I'm switching because I don't like the iPhone as a daily pocket device anymore. I'm keeping it to use at home, though, for the games and apps that don't exist on the Android platform.
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Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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So what kind of advise are you looking for?
I read your post and all I got was I want an iPhone because of the apps, I don't see a debate or anything requiring the need for advise. Go get the iPhone.
azazin said:
Hi guys,
Need some advise, i have had the SGS for around a month, the hardware is great and the screen quality is awesome, but the problem is lack of development support.
During the time i have had this device, probably 3 decent games (psx4droid, skies of glory and hyper jump) have been released, the rest have been released in the past.
No more than 5 useful applications have been released.
Not many of the Market apps are useful and most are spam.
I am thinking of switching to the iOS4, the development off apps there is far better and hundreds of new applications are released there.
Dont take this as a troll comment, i like the SGS, its just i dont like the lack of support.
Advise? Thanks.
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If you are after mainly games then yes get an iphone, android is still a way behind in this area and might still take some time to catch up, while developers are slowly moving to android they are really still just testing the waters with android I feel and many games ported to android are either missing features or far more buggy than their iphone versions.
I am sure this will change as android keeps growing in popularity but if you want lots of games now then obviously the iphone is better in that area.
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So do it. Life is too short to worry about stuff like this. If Android isn't meeting your needs, switch and be happy.
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Yep. I don't understand the need to have other people convince you that you want to stay on Android.
Just go to iPhone if you feel that suits your needs.
Most useful apps that are on the iPhone are on Android...if anything they did a recent study and found there are more developers on Android then there for the iPhone....
But there are 2 things to consider..
1) iPhone has a lot of useless apps that do the same thing
2) Not all apps are always in the market place..for example EA games has quite a few games but for some reason keeps them hidden..but you can buy them if you want to directly...same for Gameloft and many other publishers..
Either way Android is growing quite fast and will continue to grow...as of 2010 I have yet to see 1 major developer do something for the iphone and not for Android..
Dear azazin,
I liked the way you said. You want something to explore rite ?
Your my kind.. I am the same way your.
I updated my OS to i9000xxjp3 (android 2.2)
Its amazingly fast there are bugs when you use Mobile AP (Hotspot), but this was working fine on i9000xxjp2 .. The official 2.2 is getting released on End of September.
And you can also try installing lot of application which is available on market.
The searching of application depends on how you use your mobile.
If you wanna be a developer you can do that easily.
U Tube vide : v=I6ObTqIiYfE
There are games like Many and they are awesome.. !! Seriously 3d HD games are coming 2 our SGS ...
U Tube Video : v=OxdZWhga0Vw
There are many application you can check out. Google them out on your chrome and send them directly to your mobile ..
tc..
Symbian OS took 38% market share worldwide in Q2 (41% year-on-year growth)
Android had 23% market share (884% year-on-year growth)
BlackBerry OS took 18% share (41% year-on-year growth)
iOS came in with 13% share (61% year-on-year growth)
As you can see there are 2x more Android devices then iphone devices world wide...and the growth is unparalleled...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-sales-almost-900-q2
I've also read that Samsung is very happy with the Samsung Galaxy S, so much that the next major upgrade is going to be sometime in 3Q 2011. They are trying to do a yearly roadmap kinda like the iPhone. That's big for a company like Samsung that pretty much sh*ts fones left right and center.
For me I changed to the SGS from the 3G because I was sick of the way Steve Jobs thinks he can decide what apps and which websites I can visit (Flash!).
I liked the Iphone but in the end I felt it was to restrictive, all the apps I had on the Iphone I have now found in the market and a few that allow me to do things Apple told me I didn't need to do (GRRRR!).
I can now layout my own home screen with my own wallpaper and list today's appointments, which I could only do after jailbreaking the Iphone and even then it was limited.
My only issue with the SGS is the battery life, my 3G was better even after 18 months of usage.
Keep it. Samsung did an awesome job with this one and if they keep the Galaxy S as a whole series (like the iPhone) we'll see some big stuff coming from them. I think samsung is throwing the first stones in order to become the reference on Android smartphones.
On the other hand. If you really want games... Yeah, get an iPhone...
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Go for the iphone mate, better apps for now, but not for long
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It just annoys me that knowing Android phone having better GPU than iPhone while not having game that take advantage or UI hardware acceleration for the matter of fact.
Look at Rage HD released on iPhone/iPad Today, it simply looks amazing, and it ran well on iPad's last generation hardware. I believe the same game can run even better on Galaxy S phones; however, because of our freedom to install any application (ie. installable .apk -> Rampant piracy), many developers avoided Android market like fly's trap. (Gameloft comes to mind).
Anyways here's a short video by Gizmodo. Enjoy.
http://gizmodo.com/5693208/download-the-most-badass-iphone-first+person-shooter-ever-right-now
Edit: oh yeah, did I mention it was only $2 dollar?
Carmack has said they are working on Rage for Android next.
Yeah theyve already said they are making an Android version.
Graphics are amazing, but Im not really a fan of on-rails shooters.
Yeap thats one of the many reasons. I got like 8 hacked apk games my self! Plus apple has lots of support even through its not as open as android. Hope soon that changes. Because after playing a few 3d games on my vibrant I know how cool it would be to have a game like RageHD on android. One other reason is because there are way to many android devices with lots of different specs and that might be a big issue.
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Well...let me explain why this happens. The iPhone is great to develop for because there are essentially 3 devices (4 if you add iPad). This makes development and testing significantly easier and cheaper since you only have to support a very small number of devices. Apps that are iPhone4 or iPad only only have to be tested on a single device. For a game developer this is huge. This is why some great games only come out on Consoles and not PC's. Its because the developers don't have to test against dozens upon dozens of video cards, OS versions, screen sizes, RAM configurations, processors from multiple manufacturers. If you need to do some binary code for optimization, a single platform makes this simple.
All of this same stuff applies to Android phones. There are hundreds of different models, different screen sizes, OS versions, GPUs, Processors, Driver issues, etc etc. While app development may actually be easier on Android, its also much much harder to deliver a game experience across such a diverse platform.
Well if u like racing games check out Need For Speed Shift. Awesome game and looks and runs great!
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Augmented reality games are cool
Hopefully it picks up for us Android guys as well
http://vimeo.com/14778617
I would love to fire something up at the meeting
You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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No body speaks of piracy here, so I don't understand your point here.
I don't think Gameloft is withholding the games from the market strictly on piracy issues...
This game seems cool the graphics are awesome...but it not being for android reminds me of how much I want Pocket God for android.
I've been playing Hawx and Asphalt and I'm pretty impressed. I'm not really a gamer so ymmv.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
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You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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True, but that doesn't make it any harder for them to develop for iOS, and only a very small minority of iOS users jailbreak their phones. Android comes by default allowing installable APKs. That's a huge, factorable difference. It means people only need to do a Google search to pirate software (unless they're on AT&T).
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I have had alot of phones.
Galaxy s2
S2 skyrocket
HTC vivid
Galaxy nexus
IPhone 4
Etc....
But always found myself trading phones on craigslist or selling to get the latest and greatest! But when I finally found a xperia play on Cl I picked it up for cheap and I never been happier! Sure its not the latest or greatest but its not a COPYCAT! If they release another phone with a gamepad and get alot of Dev support that be the only way Ill have a new device. I'm looking to buy one in mint condition so I can get that one unlocked bootloader and let the flashing games begin!!!
Just see alot of people mad about ics not coming but to me it don't matter I'm stock att rom with v6 supercharger and I'm set!
Not saying I don't want ics in the future but no point getting butt hurt that's how life goes!!
Now I'm off my rant box!
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Yep its a great phone, had mine over a year now.
After over a year on gb I can say im ready for a new os, problem is I dont want a new phone to get it.
Hope for a source release and some dev magic
Yea great phone! Betas seem to run pretty good for those who have used it. With sources hopefully it will be better! But I loving the xperia! You should see everybody faces when they see the gamepad! Lol
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I got HTC Vivid and use the phone part, email, calendar, text, map, read news, listen to radio and browse the net. I had other phones such as blackberries, HTC Inspire, HTC Titan (windows) Samsung note and based on my needs, this is the best phone I had so far. I do agree that the phone gets a bit warm while using the GPS. The Google map is awesome, the GPS has been improved. The voice recognition works well. I like the notes software that came with it so I can hand write notes on the go. The screen size is perfect, you can read and reply to quick emails much easier. I think HTC is working hard to appeal to the business users and provides Outlook syncing software which is critical. I couldn't believe that the windows phone did not sync with Outlook, MS is missing the boat.
Finally! An iPhone user who appreciates other phones rather than Apple products. Sir, you are a guy in a million!
And yes, XPlay is something innovative, cool and interesting. Soon (not sure when) an updated version of the phone (XPlay 2) will be out. I think it's ability to compete in the smartphone industry will be a lot higher then.
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Finally! An iPhone user who appreciates other phones rather than Apple products. Sir, you are a guy in a million!
And yes, XPlay is something innovative, cool and interesting. Soon (not sure when) an updated version of the phone (XPlay 2) will be out. I think it's ability to compete in the smartphone industry will be a lot higher then.
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I have a Iphone 4 and the Xperia Play and love them both, people are allways complaining about the iPhone and Android, what I think is, if you want a phone just to make calls and msg's and play some games go with the iphone, ios is preaty and simple if you want to customize your phone and like to flash roms and mods go with Android. who have an iPhone have an iPhone, who have Android have Android! Stop saying that apple sucks, and the same goes to iPhone users! iOS and Android are both great OS's, they are just aimed for diferent things
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Finally! An iPhone user who appreciates other phones rather than Apple products. Sir, you are a guy in a million!
And yes, XPlay is something innovative, cool and interesting. Soon (not sure when) an updated version of the phone (XPlay 2) will be out. I think it's ability to compete in the smartphone industry will be a lot higher then.
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you do know Sony itself denied the Xplay 2 right?
vokal1992 said:
I have a Iphone 4 and the Xperia Play and love them both, people are allways complaining about the iPhone and Android, what I think is, if you want a phone just to make calls and msg's and play some games go with the iphone, ios is preaty and simple if you want to customize your phone and like to flash roms and mods go with Android. who have an iPhone have an iPhone, who have Android have Android! Stop saying that apple sucks, and the same goes to iPhone users! iOS and Android are both great OS's, they are just aimed for diferent things
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I totally agree! I had an iPhone before my Xperia Play, and I'm going to get an iPad soon, but you can't say which OS is better, because they can both do awesome things that the other OS can't... I like having both
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you do know Sony itself denied the Xplay 2 right?
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All they have said is its not coming soon. They want to concentrate on pushing the PlayStation certified side on other handsets (touchscreen)(tablets) to build the platform. People think xperia play is the only PlayStation phone but it's not and they want people to see there others. Plus play 2 will not come out till they have sold so much vitas as they won't put out a second new device to compete with there own products. Sony where happy with the play and it would be non business like not to consider it for the future
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Finally! An iPhone user who appreciates other phones rather than Apple products. Sir, you are a guy in a million!
And yes, XPlay is something innovative, cool and interesting. Soon (not sure when) an updated version of the phone (XPlay 2) will be out. I think it's ability to compete in the smartphone industry will be a lot higher then.
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That would be great if the xplay 2 or something similar pop up down the line! I like ios. Its simple and I see why most people prefer it. But I'm just Android guy always will be! Not saying I wouldn't get a new iPhone by I prefer android more.
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I have a Iphone 4 and the Xperia Play and love them both, people are allways complaining about the iPhone and Android, what I think is, if you want a phone just to make calls and msg's and play some games go with the iphone, ios is preaty and simple if you want to customize your phone and like to flash roms and mods go with Android. who have an iPhone have an iPhone, who have Android have Android! Stop saying that apple sucks, and the same goes to iPhone users! iOS and Android are both great OS's, they are just aimed for diferent things
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Yea totally agree! But its more annoying hearing iPhone users saying android sucks and can't give you a good reason.
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I'd love to see someone put Android onto the iPhone hardware. I was watching a youtube video earlier of a Samsung Omnia I900 (windows 6.5) running Android
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you do know Sony itself denied the Xplay 2 right?
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What?! You ruined my day. Actually, there may be another PS phone, but different from XPlay. :-S
903tex said:
Yea totally agree! But its more annoying hearing iPhone users saying android sucks and can't give you a good reason.
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yeah, and most of them never had an Android Phone, or vice-versa.
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yeah, and most of them never had an Android Phone, or vice-versa.
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I had an iPhone for 18 months. I loathe them with a burning passion
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I had an iPhone for 18 months. I loathe them with a burning passion
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Sound like my friend when he got a nexus!
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I've never had an iPhone.
I actually haven't ever had an Apple product.
Maybe I would have been an iOS app developer if Apple didn't force application developers to use a Mac and make them have to get an Apple AppStore account.
Anyway, I'm staying with Android.
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Sound like my friend when he got a nexus!
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Don't get me wrong, I hated the iPhone the whole time I had it. Wasn't a case of hating it after getting an Android. My first Android was the Galaxy Europa GT-I550 and it sucked hard. Sold it and got the X10mini which aside from the 4 Corners Home Launcher (which Im using on my Play) sucked as well. Then I got the Play which I love. All my emulators in one place
In retrospect though, both OSs have their strengths and weaknesses. iOS is always smooth but lacks the customisation of Android. Android has the customisation but can sometimes be prone to lag
Swings and roundabouts really
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I'd love to see someone put Android onto the iPhone hardware. I was watching a youtube video earlier of a Samsung Omnia I900 (windows 6.5) running Android
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/06/yep-the-iphone-runs-android-2-2-too/ tada
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/06/yep-the-iphone-runs-android-2-2-too/ tada
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That's awesome. Someone gave the iPhone a good OS
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Hey
Just seen the new phone (miro) God knows who comes up with these gays names. I don't get which part of this phone is meant to be fun. OOOOOoooo Facebook integration!! Erm Sony Facebook integration is a thing of the past, many phones have succeeded some haven't. But the fact is you brag about yourselves being 'innovative' the only innovative thing you can't see are the consumers who want something different to what you are doing. That's not to say you won't sell many phones, pretty sure they, ll be hundreds flying out. However in a world of many smartphones the war is tight and every single sale counts, so if the numbers don't add up at the end. Don't come questioning the minority that left.
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Whining about not getting ICS is okay but this not xperia play related. not worse than any other manufakture.
How is this news connected with the xperia play section?
Oh god, no. Now don't begin to flood all the forum moaning about that new phone.
Why the hell did you think it was going to be a Xperia Play 2? Even there was the anouncement that Sony was not developing this phone...
A gaming phone with quad core, 1 GB RAM, etc.? Are you serious Sony would make a machine like that to make direct competition with the Playstation Vita?
Get real. And grow up.
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Oh god, no. Now don't begin to flood all the forum moaning about that new phone.
Why the hell did you think it was going to be a Xperia Play 2? Even there was the anouncement that Sony was not developing this phone...
A gaming phone with quad core, 1 GB RAM, etc.? Are you serious Sony would make a machine like that to make direct competition with the Playstation Vita?
Get real. And grow up.
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your not really thinking about what your saying, when have sony ever confirmed the existence of any phone before they are ready? and why would they anyway? that's what MWC, CES and their own events are for
the specs to an extent dont matter, a play 2 could have better specs then a vita but if it doesn't have veta games, your average joe gamer wont care, hell, neither would i
an easy solution would be to limit a play 2 to PSP1 games only, there would be no conflict there and sony could build on that as cell phone gaming evolves
Thread closed. Nothing to do with Xperia Play.
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Just found this. Sony would be stupid to do this. I understand their reasons. But still think its suicide commercially
http://feeds.itproportal.com/~r/itproportal/rss/~3/oDe_Wkfa2qQ/
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I thought they only patented the tech? Not that they were going to implement it
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I don't think they will do this because there was this scare on the ps3 release when people said that the ps3 "engraves" the game disk with a kind of encryption so only that ps3 can read it but Sony did not do that so I dont think they will do this
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They created the tech and are patenting it thats all this is, because if they don't someone else will.
There were rumors of this last year, and HUGE public backlash to the point they released a statement saying they would not do it.
If I can't play preowned games on a Playstation 4, F*****uck Sony, I'm serious if I can't play preowned games I will be looking towards Microsoft.
Sony could have had an extra marketing tool by letting people play ps2 games on the original fat ps3's. But they took that away and disabled any such feature. IMO I hope Sony steps back from their gaming console and see that they're murdering it.
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If I can't play preowned games on a Playstation 4, F*****uck Sony, I'm serious if I can't play preowned games I will be looking towards Microsoft.
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Microsoft wants the exact samething.
If this is true then I whole heartedly support it. Game devs make nothing from pre owned sales. You like a particular dev then buy their games brand new
Simple as
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CTU_Loscombe said:
If this is true then I whole heartedly support it. Game devs make nothing from pre owned sales. You like a particular dev then buy their games brand new
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But this would also prevent you taking a game over to a friend's house or lending a game. Furthermore, people trade in games in order to buy new games often but this would also prevent that
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UndisputedGuy said:
But this would also prevent you taking a game over to a friend's house or lending a game. Furthermore, people trade in games in order to buy new games often but this would also prevent that
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It's a necessary trade off
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Been this way on the PC for years due to single use codes. No-one will trade in PC games, hence why Steam has become so prolific.
The flipside of this could be that because game devs/publishers would be making more profit from sales, retail prices could drop to similar levels as PC games. The price of console games is the specific reason my Xbox is just a media centre and my pc is for gaming!!
i hope they do not implement it, and the patent will prevent other to try to implement it
And again... already been confirmed that while they have patented this, they are NOT going to implement it.
BTW if you research the PS3 you'll find that 2-3 versions of the original fat PS3 had PS2 backward compatibility. They worked on it for a while and found a couple problems. First was that not all PS2 games would work. Second was it was adding a huge amount to the cost. People were complaining about how much it cost (and not buying it), and people were complaining and even returning systems because all their PS2 games wouldn't play. They did the smartest thing, cut the R&D expenses and hardware expenses of continuing to develop a dead platform, lowering the price, and eliminating consumer expectation of every game working. Its called business
Rogue Leader said:
And again... already been confirmed that while they have patented this, they are NOT going to implement it.
BTW if you research the PS3 you'll find that 2-3 versions of the original fat PS3 had PS2 backward compatibility. They worked on it for a while and found a couple problems. First was that not all PS2 games would work. Second was it was adding a huge amount to the cost. People were complaining about how much it cost (and not buying it), and people were complaining and even returning systems because all their PS2 games wouldn't play. They did the smartest thing, cut the R&D expenses and hardware expenses of continuing to develop a dead platform, lowering the price, and eliminating consumer expectation of every game working. Its called business
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I did look a little into it and Rogue Leader is correct, they have patented it. And in regards to the PS2 compatibility why do we t hink the PS2 is still around, at least until the current supplies are in stock... been confirmed EOL for PS2.
Thats probably why thge PS2 12 years later is still around as PS2 compatibility was dropped from PS3.
So with that in mind I guess this particular thread can be close as theres no need in keeping a thread open that would just confuse people...... unless of course $ony does decide to use this patent, but again it doesnt look like it, thye simply patented it.
What you guys seem to be forgetting is that sony is a business. Not your intimate family member. If you owned a company, profit would be one of your highest priorities if you were in Sony's position. Secondly, just because they applied for a patent does not mean they are going to use it. The ps3 and the xbox 360 currently have the functionality to block the use of pre-owned games, they aren't. Publishers are already making you buy "online passes" if you buy pre-owned games and want to play them online, this could be what Sony was going for. There have been rumours of microsoft also looking into a similar system. But wait, lets not bash the messengers, you also have to consider third part developers. They're more than likely pressuring Sony+Microsoft as they also don't recieve anything from pre-owned purchases. Now, please stop with the hate.
EDIT- Some of the points have already been made in this thread.