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Dell Streak gets HoneyComb

So, there is a very,very early alpha build of Honeycomb running on Dell Streak. And the developer notes that inspite of everything running in software (no 3D Acceleration for now obviously) it performs slightly better than 2.3 did!
Source:
http://android.modaco.com/content/dell-streak-streak-modaco-com/331766/yawn-ive-been-bored-tonight/
I can only wish for something for our Tabs

Whilst this is great news its still only a new port.
Id love to see it on my tab but wud want a proper release or at least one that has most of the tabs features running lol.
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i REALLY just dont get why no one has even attempted this on the tab...what a shame. guess no one is "bored" enough i know it would be useless but something to brag about.

+1 on that
WTF, why are we getting left behind. As if a stupid ebook reader getting Honeycomb wasn't bad enough, now a 5" phone err Tablet has a Honeycomb beta ROM. Granted, very preliminary, but we can't even get a solid ROM going on.........I love the tablet and I know our Dev's kick butt, but this is just getting ridiculous. Am I the only one upset by this
ayman07 said:
i REALLY just dont get why no one has even attempted this on the tab...what a shame. guess no one is "bored" enough i know it would be useless but something to brag about.
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Yes I'm upset too. I upgraded from HD2. I was used to see everyday one or more new roms. But there are really a few development going on our lovely tab :'(
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EVO tablet

I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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babyschoof said:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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HP to make WebOS open source

I'm sure everyone has read this. Thought I would share. I've played around on an HP Touchpad and I really like WebOS from what I've saw so far.
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397447,00.asp
Let's Go Mountaineers. Beat the hell out of Pitt.

daoliverio said:
I'm sure everyone has read this. Thought I would share. I've played around on an HP Touchpad and I really like WebOS from what I've saw so far.
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397447,00.asp
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No one likes that crappy OS.....open sourced or not, is not going to matter!

It would be nice to have it integrated into android. Webos has some cool features that would look good on android. With it being open source i see people porting things over

I think that if some really good devs get their hands on the source code they might make it what it was intended to be all along. I think that webOS never experienced its full capacity because it didn't attract the pockets of major investors, but that can change.
Never underestimate anyone... or even more, Anything...

I hope its ported. Just another reason to feed my addiction to flashing roms haha
Let's go Mountaineers. Beat the hell out of Pitt.

so, a guy has cobbled together a pretty pre-pre-pre-alpha monstrosity and slapped it into the evo 3d.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/9/2...r-htcs-evo-3d-a-proof-of-concept-for-the-time
i'm switching to verizon once the nexus is released, so my evo will turn into more of a toy/media device, and i think i'd really love to play around with webos on a huge evo screen.
am i alone on this one? or is anybody else out there plotting and scheming about how to shoehorn it into our previous evos?

I personally enjoy webos. If it only had the support that Android or ios has (apps wise) then I believe it can be a real competitor in the near future. Would be dope if the Evo gets a port
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Would be very interesting. There are quite a few very nice functional and visual to WebOS, be great to just get certain parts of it, I don't really want a full port(besides to play around with), but just some of its features and effects would be nice to integrate into a ROM. Def with ICS.

I personally love web os it has many great features but I'm confused when palm owned it I thought it was open source I remember hearing Ruby talk about how great that was. Why did HP close it in the first place. I mean I might be wrong so please if I am school me
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delman420 said:
I personally love web os it has many great features but I'm confused when palm owned it I thought it was open source I remember hearing Ruby talk about how great that was. Why did HP close it in the first place. I mean I might be wrong so please if I am school me
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I don't remember really. In my limited time using the touchpad (i refuse to buy one for myself since it's been dumped) I've loved it. It's really simple to use and has some cool features. I'd like to see it running on this huge EVO screen also!
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mazdarider23 said:
No one likes that crappy OS.....open sourced or not, is not going to matter!
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Wat? I'm going to venture a guess here that you've never used it. It's far from crappy. The failure was the devices it was placed on and their prices. WebOS wasn't the problem.

Open WebOS Support on SGSII

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802075
It would seem that an developer (or team of) has started taking in pledges from users who wish to see OpenWebOS on their device.
I was shocked to see that the SGSII hasn't had any support thus far. So hit up that link and sound off if you wish to see OWOS on our devices.
I for one miss the hell out of WebOS from my Pre days and would much prefer to have it running on my Galaxy SII than Android.

Already voted!Galaxy S2!

allocen said:
Already voted!Galaxy S2!
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Good Job, keep up the voting!

lets spam TEH THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!

Why WebOS ??
just tell me
i really see no point of it, but infact you may convince me to vote

LastStandingDroid said:
Why WebOS ??
just tell me
i really see no point of it, but infact you may convince me to vote
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It is open source
This is enough reason for me to vote
And choice is always welcomed since the development has been slow recently is s2 section
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Posted.Why web os .Choice
IN CODEWORKX WE TRUST.

bartoloandre98 said:
Posted.Why web os .Choice
IN CODEWORKX WE TRUST.
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WebOS is a fantastic platform. it would completely outclass Android on our devices, (i owned a Pre, loved it but it was a bit shoddy and the sgsII would be a much better candidate).
Great user experience, great social integration, intuitive non intrusive notifications, looks pretty, childishly easy to develop for (as long as you dont mind working with Javascript) and last but not least (probably the most important thing for the XDA community) its hackable beyond comprehension with a ton of room to improve performance, change UI behaviour, theme and extend.
I think it would be a fun challenge and something that the XDA community can get behind

sabianadmin said:
WebOS is a fantastic platform. it would completely outclass Android on our devices, (i owned a Pre, loved it but it was a bit shoddy and the sgsII would be a much better candidate).
Great user experience, great social integration, intuitive non intrusive notifications, looks pretty, childishly easy to develop for (as long as you dont mind working with Javascript) and last but not least (probably the most important thing for the XDA community) its hackable beyond comprehension with a ton of room to improve performance, change UI behaviour, theme and extend.
I think it would be a fun challenge and something that the XDA community can get behind
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Votedddd
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Voted. It's good to have another OS on our phone
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Been there done that
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Cant vote. But support! I want it on my phone!!

kewachan said:
Cant vote. But support! I want it on my phone!!
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U just need to post your phone name in that thread
Btw guys we have less pledges than evo shift atm
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Do we have nice apps for WebOS? Otherwise it's useless.
Nevertheless, I've voted

Yes we do, you have both the apps in the official app catalog and then you have a wealth of applications, patches and utilities in the open source homebrew package manager Preware.
I didn't have to trawl forums for kerenls and patches to flash, i could just install them from preware and reboot and voila, my 600Mhz pre was running at 1.2Ghz or my icons where 6x6 instead of 4x4 in the launcher.
In terms of proper app apps, you have tons of twitter clients, books, readers, flashlights, facebook clients, chat apps, iRC clients, navigation apps, music and video players (some of them really really awesome) and more!
I miss Palm
p.s WebOS also had flash support for those who think it matter (i dont, dont even have it installed on my device)

If I had to chose only one I think Firefox OS is a better choice

Voted.

minidou-77 said:
If I had to chose only one I think Firefox OS is a better choice
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We already have it but we want MOAR
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I'd happily vote, if I had the 10 posts needed XD. I loved my unbrickable pre plus. WebOS 2.1 ran brilliantly for the specs it had to make do with, and I'd guess that if webos got running on the s2 properly, it'd make android look slow. Really slow.
It just needs apps, and a hell of a lot of love and new features.
Shame that the s2 doesn't have the capacative touch area the pre plus and newer phones had.
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Voted, maybe this will allow webos to shine on hardware it could and should have been on!
HP CAN SWIVEL AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED!
From PALM PRE to GALAXY S2... From HOPE to RELIEF!

Buy CM a N7100 for development.?

Is anyone up for the idea to start a collection to buy the CM team a N7100 so they can start working on getting us cm10?
When I spoke to xplodwild this was his reply
Guillaume (@xplodwild) tweeted at 7:21 PM on Fri, Oct 05, 2012:
@iseeguy Assuming someone do it, because as of now nobody have one neither wants to buy one.
(https://twitter.com/xplodwild/status/254149189792047104)
I'm happy to organise this with the CM team to kickoff development
Who's thinks it's a good idea?

I've donated to previous initiatives and will again

Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.

This is why I'll keep my note 1
Already on Jb PA
Maybe when development for the note 2 is already a big boy is change for it. Probably not.
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Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Well said!

Far enough, but it was worth a try
Can the mods please delete this thread.

Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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- f3w1n -

Entropy512 said:
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
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Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.

I completely support this especially if its just for a dev to do it unofficially, but remember guys we can't hold the dev responsible for getting it done. You have to go into thinking your donating for the dev to have the phone and use it as they like not donate thinking your donating for that dev to be obligated to bring cm10. In the rezound forum we got a phone for protekk to help with aosp and people got demanding and were expecting him to bring it since they donated. This tore apart that community for a long time. So if you donate do it as a donation and not an expectation
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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I would say that Paranoid Android is absolutely perfect for the Note. S-Pen can be handled through different applications like GNote, Memo etc. The ability to run applications in tablet mode is such an enhancement of the device that I don´t see any single feature with the Note II that somehow "compensates".
I can agree that pure CM10 isn´t the most interesting thing on the Note II since it has the phone UI but Paranoid Android is a completely different matter.
Since PA relies on CM, it is very important to get it for the N7100 in order to get going.
Windowed applications is very nice but also a feature I guess will be implemented in either AOSP or CM in the future. Don´t forget Overskreen and FloatNote etc.

I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.

ipguy said:
Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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erick161 said:
To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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Let agree to disagree then!

CurrentlyPissed said:
Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
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There's a difference between challenging, and utterly freaking impossible.
Challenging: Going through source and fixing bugs or adding new features. For example, for months I've wanted to try and rework the Exynos suspend/resume code to be more power efficient. (It locks cpufreq at 800 MHz and disables cpuidle for the entire suspend/resume cycle, which eats power. Also SOME interrupt service handler eats huge amounts of CPU on resume (the root cause of the classic Gingerbread "Android OS" bugs), and I'd like to figure out which one and see if it can be optimized.
Utterly freaking impossible: On a routine basis, figuring out what Samsung broke in their blobs and why it doesn't work the way it should. Trying to take totally broken nonfunctional source code and get it to work properly with zero documentation. See hwcomposer - unless a miracle happens, we will be continually stuck fighting blobs that Samsung gave us. Their blobs have some sort of significant magic not present in any reference source. The reference source creates a broken piece of **** that's almost indistinguishable from not having any hwc at all.
I've spent 10-20 hours or more per week of my spare time over the past three weeks fighting hwcomposer and making absolutely zero progress. I'm tired of flailing against a brick wall and getting nothing other than bloody knuckles.
jbounours said:
I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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No, porting CM10 won't be easy due to shared hardware with the S3. Have you noticed no Exynos device has M builds? Have you noticed that Exynos devices are almost always one of the last "flagship-class" devices to receive nightlies?
CM9 should never have been marked stable on Exynos devices - too many bugs remain and we lowered our standards for "stable" too much.
CM10 on Exynos is incredibly far from reaching M builds let alone a stable release and I don't think we have the manpower, motivation, or energy to take it to to the finish line, let alone the documentation needed to do so.
And what about CM11? The whole mess will just start all over again, if any maintainers are left on Exynos by then. Again, we'll be flailing against undocumented crap that didn't even quite work right with the Android version it was designed for, while those working on platforms that have proper documentation and reference source (OMAP and Qualcomm) will start moving ahead immediately. See JB on Qcoms - They took only a month or two to get ahead of where Exynos4 devices are NOW, 4-5 months after JB went live, and over half of the work those guys were doing was forward-merging CM customizations from CM9.

ipguy said:
I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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ithehappy said:
Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?

ipguy said:
I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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To me a reliable OS is all that matters. But you didn't get the point what I've tried to say.
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ipguy said:
I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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That's the primary reason I got my Note. Even if it didn't have a stylus I would've bought it for the screen.
Also, there are now plenty of pen apps that use the standard Android stylus APIs, so the Samsung-specific stuff is irrelevant at this point. For example, PS Touch works just fine on the Note 10.1 in AOSP. So does Quill, Papyrus, Memo Beta, LectureNotes, and a number of other apps.
The only thing beyond that which is missing are stylus gestures, and that's primarily an issue of manpower. I would've forward ported and cleaned up masiullah's pen gestures patches a month or two ago if there weren't a pile of other massively broken things unrelated to stylus.