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I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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babyschoof said:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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Thoughts on WebOS?

Since the latest Palm phones were announced, I've been wondering if I should switch to a palm phone. I've always loved how WebOS worked. I would have probably gotten a WebOS phone had there been a Palm phone with the Evo internals.
And out of curiosity I checked Sprint to see if the palm pad was listed, unsurprisingly, it wasn't. What did surprise me was that the Palm Pre was NOT listed anymore.

I like web os but iys like the red heades step child of phone platforms. Not to much dev support like for android phones and i got frustrated with the lack of apps in the store. Though it is amazing platform jus not getting recognition but who know maybe hp can change all that we will see
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It was definitely cool to mess around with.. but like jesz said... not a lot of support.
I also had a ton of issues with it... exchanging for faulty hardware (headphone jack) to getting software updates that fixed some issues but broke other things.. it was a mess.
Hopefully HP does really well... competition is never a bad thing.

If HP released the Pre 3 right now I would probably get it. I found it my Pre to be the most amazing device I've used so far, I think I was one of the few to have a good build. I could care less about dev support because really I only used a core of 15 apps or so and thats all I use for Android. I love my Evo dearly but if Sprint doesn't announce a successor...

Yeahh thats another issue i had i had my pre for like Ill say 7 months and i had gone
Thru about 4
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WebOS isn't too bad. But until a semi decent bit of hardware comes packaged with WebOS then I'll continue to watch.
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webos is amazing IMO. if a slab phone comes out running it i will ditch android in a heartbeat. until then ill stick to my evo.

fixxxer2008 said:
webos is amazing IMO. if a slab phone comes out running it i will ditch android in a heartbeat. until then ill stick to my evo.
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+1
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Webos is the best phone os out there but the hardware and dev support was really bad, if those get turned around I would jump in two seconds
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DoctorComrade said:
If HP released the Pre 3 right now I would probably get it. I found it my Pre to be the most amazing device I've used so far, I think I was one of the few to have a good build. I could care less about dev support because really I only used a core of 15 apps or so and thats all I use for Android. I love my Evo dearly but if Sprint doesn't announce a successor...
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fixxxer2008 said:
webos is amazing IMO. if a slab phone comes out running it i will ditch android in a heartbeat. until then ill stick to my evo.
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+1
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Tuffgong4 said:
Webos is the best phone os out there but the hardware and dev support was really bad, if those get turned around I would jump in two seconds
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Agreed. The webOS interface and the way it handles multitasking is just perfect. The patches available from the webOS Internals team were amazing and a breeze to use.
If only it had better hardware, I wouldn't look back to Android ever again. At least we can dream.

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+1
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+1 totally

[Q] [poll] how much would you donate to get WP7 on your EVO?

put me down for $50 (cheaper than buying a new phone
this poll will be useful to see how much devs can actually make, and the number of people who are interested.
when you vote, your name will be saved for the number you voted on..
IDIOTS BEWARE: IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS WP7 ON YOUR PHONE there are a lot of other interesting threads which need your comments right now. please don't waste your time and ours by posting here.

0$, I'm a cheap bastard

$0 I'm a disinterested bastard.

0.00$
from my phone duh

Isn't it true that WM7 has yet to be hacked to where it could even be put on a different device, much less an Evo?

mattykinsx said:
Isn't it true that WM7 has yet to be hacked to where it could even be put on a different device, much less an Evo?
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The hd2 got it, when they found out It wouldn't received an update...
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Nothing because we all know this isnt going to happen; many(including myself) have reached out to devs on several occasions and none of them seem to even take an interest. why do you think we all keep creating WP7 threads and NO devs even show their faces usually. This project is not an easy project just ask anyone. We would need a new bootloader to even get this going, who's going to write the evo a new bootloader to dual boot this and android? As i stated above, no matter how many bounty's we put up our devs just aren't interested in WP7.

I couldn't care less about WP7 being ported, but it would be cool to see just for the sake of development. However, I would probably donate for a WebOS port.
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$0 and its not even worth that...

Ill pay so people stop asking about it. Go buy a wp7 phone!
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Oooooooo.........a bounty thread. I haven't seen one of these on here for a while.
Put me down for $0, as well. If I wanted a Windows phone, I'd go buy one.

kd0axs said:
I couldn't care less about WP7 being ported, but it would be cool to see just for the sake of development. However, I would probably donate for a WebOS port.
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I agree 100%, imagine webOS on a 4.3" screen wow. Ive been running android since the G1 days but if palm stepped their hardware up id switch to be honest. I just think they could make a huge comeback if they got with HTC, or Samsung, Motorola whomever just stop making those tiny black pebbles lol. WebOS is just a tiger waiting to get out the cage man. I wouldn't even think twice about leaving android

Id do $10 just for fun.

What is wp7 lol...
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dirkyd3rk said:
I agree 100%, imagine webOS on a 4.3" screen wow. Ive been running android since the G1 days but if palm stepped their hardware up id switch to be honest. I just think they could make a huge comeback if they got with HTC, or Samsung, Motorola whomever just stop making those tiny black pebbles lol. WebOS is just a tiger waiting to get out the cage man. I wouldn't even think twice about leaving android
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pre HP palm said they would linsce thier OS to other manufacturers

I'd donate a dime bag and 2 dingleberries.

dirkyd3rk said:
I agree 100%, imagine webOS on a 4.3" screen wow. Ive been running android since the G1 days but if palm stepped their hardware up id switch to be honest. I just think they could make a huge comeback if they got with HTC, or Samsung, Motorola whomever just stop making those tiny black pebbles lol. WebOS is just a tiger waiting to get out the cage man. I wouldn't even think twice about leaving android
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had the palm pre....it wasnt anything special web os was nice but got really boring really quick.

I know... imagine all four webos apps on a 4.3 " screen.

about three fiddy...

mattykinsx said:
I know... imagine all four webos apps on a 4.3 " screen.
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You're a fool. Don't hate on webOS dude if you never even tried it. I got a palm pre laying around and they have tons of apps. Maybe not 500,000 but they have alot. If palm gets better hardware something like the evo I could imagine so many devs jumping ship to webOS.

Any new mobile OS's coming out soon

I like android and all but it just gets old just like if I had the iPhone for awhile it would get old too. I'm tired of all the new phones coming out being android because its all the same with a little hardware change. If I'm going to get a new device I don't want it to be a android cause the evo is a great phone and there no need to upgrade it to something that really doesn't do much more besides have a nicer screen or a faster processer. So does anyone know if any new OS coming to the market soon to keep things fresh?
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We need consolidation not expansion.
Already too many platforms.

WebOS maybe?
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darrie1 said:
WebOS maybe?
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(Jeopardy?)
What is....a two year old platform that fell flat on its face?

Had a palm pre if they could get the hardware right it would be a good os if they placed that os in something like the evos hardware it would have been a success. But it still needs far better apps and someone to restrict the crap they put in there market. Anyways I'm tired of that os too.
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I herd Motorola is coming out with something new possibly
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touchjon said:
Anyways I'm tired of that os too.
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Sounds like you have a really short attention span.
A.d.d. perhaps?

Without the release of new OSes, you could always jump from OS to OS with each upgrade to switch it up a bit, Android > WP7 > WebOS > iPhone (where available) etc... By the time you make the rounds, years will have passed and the OS may be much different from what you remember.
On another note, there was rumor that Motorola was working on their own OS, we'll see if that comes to fruition, and Nokia has a new OS, Meego, that is linux based and supposed to be pretty smooth. Since we don't see many Nokias here, I am not sure if we will see Meego (though I do believe it has been ported to the HD2- along with every other OS).

Honeycomb is a pretty big changeup
I'm digging it so far

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Honeycomb is a pretty big changeup
I'm digging it so far
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On your xoom? I don't think we'll see that version of HC on our mobile phones...

I'd love to see a pretty solid Meego phone come out in the near future, it seems like the next best thing to Android.
Also, I wouldn't touch any proprietary Motorola OS with a ten-foot pole....

If palm/HP partnered with HTC and started making manly 4" phones and not little black Easter eggs webOS would bend android over and make it beg for mercy.

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If palm/HP partnered with HTC and started making manly 4" phones and not little black Easter eggs webOS would bend android over and make it beg for mercy.
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...AND have the same (or hell, any) dev interest.

My wife had the pre and the pixi. I didn't like webos. Won't be trying it again any time soon.

Can you please explain what features your missing that android or ios don't have?
Would you be pleased if they made another platform exactly like android or ios and just called it something else.... like "Humpty-Dumpty"? That's be something new I suppose...
Or you can just try Wp7.
In all reality though, there are more than likely no more os's coming out for phones at least for a while. Between android, ios, and wp7 there is really no reason...

Mr. Ice Cream Man

Am I the only super excited about the new Ice Cream Sandwich update android is releasing can't wait to see what these great developers are gonna do next! What are your expectation if any with this update?
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Most of us are excited, as there are already leaks of some apps, such as the music, talk, google+, ect. I personally know some dev teams who are going to be working on it, so I foresee good things.

Me I've been reading things online and everything looks great I'm a cautious rooter and flashers like to do my research before I just start putting stuff on my EVO but I'm super excited! I love Google + so I always looking forward to them making navigation easy so I can get more of my friends into it!
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It s coming I can feel it
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renegade37918 said:
It s coming I can feel it
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That's what she said
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Lol yea I can't wait for this update,looks good and that nexus prime,can't wait!
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Right now, I hardly see a good fast sense port coming to ICS unless we port it from other phones, but idk about how that will work. As far as AOSP comes along, once CM8 comes, imma slap that on my supersonic as fast as possible.

3foxy1roxy7 said:
Me I've been reading things online and everything looks great I'm a cautious rooter and flashers like to do my research before I just start putting stuff on my EVO but I'm super excited! I love Google + so I always looking forward to them making navigation easy so I can get more of my friends into it!
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I've had google plus since day one, when it was in beta stages, and I haven't used it still.

I love Google + I'm so over twitter and facebook
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Art2Fly said:
Right now, I hardly see a good fast sense port coming to ICS unless we port it from other phones, but idk about how that will work. As far as AOSP comes along, once CM8 comes, imma slap that on my supersonic as fast as possible.
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Apparently, they are "skipping" 8, next iteration is going to be CM9, from what I heard.
And from how ICS looks, I might skip CM, forget about Sense, and actually run a pure AOSP for once.
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Apparently, they are "skipping" 8, next iteration is going to be CM9, from what I heard.
And from how ICS looks, I might skip CM, forget about Sense, and actually run a pure AOSP for once.
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Most likely will be the only good running thing...

Does anyone know if it will have full hardware acceleration
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yes? Someone called me?.... good things come to those who wait.

IceCreaMan said:
yes? Someone called me?.... good things come to those who wait.
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Lol he's legitimately the ice cream man since 2007
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IceCreaMan said:
yes? Someone called me?.... good things come to those who wait.
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Why don't you come around my block anymore?

teh roxxorz said:
Why don't you come around my block anymore?
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Cause you smoked all of Big Worms product!
My knocked up EVO

teh roxxorz said:
Why don't you come around my block anymore?
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Ya mang and Carlos ain't to happy neither about his missing pipe esa. Better go get some fried plantains to make it up to him Holmes.
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So you love sitting around empty space playing with your circles not doing anything? Lol
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I WAS super-excited until the 4S came out.
I was looking for news everyday as I am ready to replace the Evo.
The game changer for me is Siri. I use the phone a lot while I am driving and voice actions, vlingo, etc, etc, don't work great. (Voice is fuxored on Gingerbread 2.3.3.)
Until the 4S, I could compare Android to iPhone spec for spec, and find Android winning favorably. But a big AMOLED screen does me no good when a smaller phone do hands-free magically.
Before the 4S, the most exciting thing to me would have been interface improvements. After? I want to see what Android is offering to match Siri.
Google had plenty of time to see Siri in the App Store then Apple's acquisition of it. They are not RIM, so they don't have the excuse of having their heads in the sand.
Except for leaks of what seem to be fake pics or videos and some leaking of apks, Google has been tight-lipped about anything new in Android. So it should be pretty exciting. I don't expect ICS to have AI--how ironic, Android without a brain--but I do expect them to announce significant improvements in voice recognition. In some ways, the iPhone was playing catch up with visual interface features like the notification bar, so Android is in the lead in that department. I like the busy interface of Honeycomb, not on the tablets but on the smart phones.
I have NO idea new features Google will be revealing. We know about NFC and Google Wallet but as far as basic phone features go, that field is wide open. Four more days!

300$ is a bit to much for me.
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702