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[Q] WP7?

i have seen that samsung is releasing a windows phone, and it's got all the same specs as our beloved galaxy s. except we have 16 Gb of internal storage, and the windows phone only has 8 Gb. so that brought me to wonder, if there is anybody looking into getting WP7 working on the galaxy s line of phones. i am an avid xbox live gamer, and also am a zune member, so this would be great for me. especially if there was a way to dual boot my phone for both android and wp7.

Aww man dual boot would be amazing.
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So far all I see is wm guys wanting android on their phones, really none of us ex wm users care for it, which is why we switched in the first place.
And then there is the licensing issue, wm isnt free.

just sell your vibrant and buy a wp7 phone. Just warning you though, you will be disappointed.

98classic said:
And then there is the licensing issue, wm isnt free.
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Exactly. You can't legally port WM to anything. Even if you did get a working port, Microsoft would take it down immediately.

dsimages said:
just sell your vibrant and buy a wp7 phone. Just warning you though, you will be disappointed.
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+1
The devs for MS market place are facing big hurdles getting their apps up because MS has a final say what gets publish and what doesn't. There is no "jailbreak" or "root" concept either, so you are stuck with whatever guys in Redmond decided is good for you.

After 3 years of using WM and now on my first Android device, no thanks... I'm not looking back

StefanB86 said:
After 3 years of using WM and now on my first Android device, no thanks... I'm not looking back
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I'm on a Vibrant, I had a HTC Touch Diamond (WM 6). Windows 7 is going to be such a huge improvement from 6. If you haven't watched the demo videos for 7, go look at em. Dont get me wrong, I love my Vibrant, but don't hate on it till you've taken a good look. The UI looks pretty kick ass in my opinion but I think W7 is designed for a different crowd of people from what you find on the XDA forums judging by their commercials.

gunks said:
I'm on a Vibrant, I had a HTC Touch Diamond (WM 6). Windows 7 is going to be such a huge improvement from 6. If you haven't watched the demo videos for 7, go look at em. Dont get me wrong, I love my Vibrant, but don't hate on it till you've taken a good look. The UI looks pretty kick ass in my opinion but I think W7 is designed for a different crowd of people from what you find on the XDA forums judging by their commercials.
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I agree with you that it has improved but the ui is so ugly. A bunch of thumbnails.
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gunks said:
I'm on a Vibrant, I had a HTC Touch Diamond (WM 6). Windows 7 is going to be such a huge improvement from 6. If you haven't watched the demo videos for 7, go look at em. Dont get me wrong, I love my Vibrant, but don't hate on it till you've taken a good look. The UI looks pretty kick ass in my opinion but I think W7 is designed for a different crowd of people from what you find on the XDA forums judging by their commercials.
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I'm not hating at all, i just like to try new things and after 3 years like i said before i got really bored of it. I'm pretty sure Windows 7 is going to be a huge improvement as you said and agree 100% about the UI (i even use a similar one on my vibrant!) but I'm a happy camper for now. I may go back in a future

ms won't allow it.
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nemesys06 said:
i have seen that samsung is releasing a windows phone, and it's got all the same specs as our beloved galaxy s. except we have 16 Gb of internal storage, and the windows phone only has 8 Gb.
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FYI the Galaxy S i9000 comes in both 8GB abd 16GB configs

The one thing you will miss from moving to WP7 is the community. I am sure a new community will grow around the phone is no time just like Android did when G1 was release, and when root was found, the community boomed. Same thing happened with iPhone and jailbreaking, it's just matter of time.
I say wait a while and see, if it is good, jump ship, if not you can always stay with Android.

Actually the community for windows is there. I first found xda developers when I was looking for mods for my MDA that was years before android dropped. Look over in some of the windows forums they are there. Its just that windows got stale, other than a couple HTC skins WM has been nearly the same since 2003. They really just updated it to work better with new hardware.
I'm sure WM7 will bring a little fire back. I'd like to try it out. My first smartphone was a Wm phone, and there are things I still miss like the contacts a Calender.
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imho WP7 looks gross
especially the home screen.
i mean Tiles.... WTF

i love the android OS. i love my vibrant. i just thought about how cool it would to be to dual boot with wp7. i didn't think about licensing though. i forgot that windows mobile isn't open source like android is, so it'll be harder, if even possible to get windows on an android device! but it's ok to wish. maybe in the future i'll get a wp7 phone. then dual boot with android on that. or keep my vibrant and have the best of both worlds. i should wait anyway to see how wp7 turns out, but i really like the involvement of xbox live and zune! i do have to say, even if wp7 is amazing, it's going to be hard to catch up with android. i can see this is going to be just like the pc world. android(linux) vs. iOS(apple) vs WP7(Windows). andbody see a trend?

nemesys06 said:
i have seen that samsung is releasing a windows phone, and it's got all the same specs as our beloved galaxy s. except we have 16 Gb of internal storage, and the windows phone only has 8 Gb. so that brought me to wonder, if there is anybody looking into getting WP7 working on the galaxy s line of phones. i am an avid xbox live gamer, and also am a zune member, so this would be great for me. especially if there was a way to dual boot my phone for both android and wp7.
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The specs are similar but not the same. All the current WP7 phones have the same cpu/gpu because the ui and stuff is all hardware accelerated.

98classic said:
So far all I see is wm guys wanting android on their phones, really none of us ex wm users care for it, which is why we switched in the first place.
And then there is the licensing issue, wm isnt free.
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WP7 != WM.

reuthermonkey said:
WP7 != WM.
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Not free is still common trait between them.
Anyway, only time will tell if WP7 is able to entice the smartphone users enough to switch.
I for one will never load a crapware from Redmond on any of my PC's (only in a VM to have ODIN because there is no alternative here) and phones.

WP7 on Epic 4g?

How likely is it that we may see some sort of dual boot, or rom that runs WP7 on our epic's? I know sammy made 1 or 2 wp7 phones, and I assume they use the same chipset as the galaxy s line?? Just thought it wuldbe neat to be able to do this. I think wp7 looks pretty cool....just not cool enough to switch from android. Lol
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Zor Omega said:
How likely is it that we may see some sort of dual boot, or rom that runs WP7 on our epic's? I know sammy made 1 or 2 wp7 phones, and I assume they use the same chipset as the galaxy s line?? Just thought it wuldbe neat to be able to do this. I think wp7 looks pretty cool....just not cool enough to switch from android. Lol
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mancard = revoked!!

Zor Omega said:
How likely is it that we may see some sort of dual boot, or rom that runs WP7 on our epic's? I know sammy made 1 or 2 wp7 phones, and I assume they use the same chipset as the galaxy s line?? Just thought it wuldbe neat to be able to do this. I think wp7 looks pretty cool....just not cool enough to switch from android. Lol
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I don't think anyone wants to work their ass off on a downgrade. Oh. Wait I forgot about Nokia.
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Zor Omega said:
How likely is it that we may see some sort of dual boot, or rom that runs WP7 on our epic's? I know sammy made 1 or 2 wp7 phones, and I assume they use the same chipset as the galaxy s line?? Just thought it wuldbe neat to be able to do this. I think wp7 looks pretty cool....just not cool enough to switch from android. Lol
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1) This has been asked around 5 times already
2) No its not the same stuff..WP7 version uses a 1st gen snapdragon as its the only allowed cpu at this point, we have a hummingbird cpu
3) No one is going to develop is cause M$ will sue them to next millennium...Android is ported to other phones cause its open source..WP7 is not...and they let HD2 slide because they still make money on winmo licenses..on Android phone they make no money off you..so they'll sue you to next millennium...

what he said... just use this.. http://www.appbrain.com/app/windows-phone-android/com.androidtechnical.wp7pro lol

WP7 sucks Android > wp7
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Sorry bro, you'd be better off sticking to a GSM network and owning multiple handsets if you want to do that.
A) aside from the CPU issue, WP7 still isn't out with CDMA support yet, and
B) even if it were possible, the android community would be hard pressed to pull it off largely out of mindset. Nothing is more important than free choice--as long as you choose open.
Remember, modern tech is more about elitism and team sports (us vs. them) than an unbiased love to tinker. Welcome.
/as much as I dig Android, the exclusionary mindset of its userbase just might drive me away some day
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The biggest hurdle that I see is that WP7 is a closed-source system. Getting Android to run on a device is considerable easier because all it takes is getting a Linux kernel to boot on a device then getting the JVM to boot the actual software. Linux is open source. AOSP is, well, open source. So, at that point, it's just an understanding of the hardware and how to get the kernel to play nice with it.
This is completely different with WP7. We don't have kernels to play with. It would involve reverse-engineering and redistributing closed-source, proprietary, licensed software... which is, obviously, illegal. And no small task, to boot.
I wouldn't mind having a WP7 device just to see what it's about, but this device isn't it.

Yeah I forgot about the whole closed source proprietary thing...and mircsofts lawyers. Lol. I knew the snapdragon was their baseline but wasn't sure what chips sammy was usng for their wp7 phones. It was just a thought. I haven't used a wp7 device, I just think the ui looks pretty neat. But I guess you can accomplish close to the same thing with themed launchers. I still can't decide if the whole open source, do what you want is a good thing for android or what will eventually turn people away from it.
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Thoughts on WebOS?

Since the latest Palm phones were announced, I've been wondering if I should switch to a palm phone. I've always loved how WebOS worked. I would have probably gotten a WebOS phone had there been a Palm phone with the Evo internals.
And out of curiosity I checked Sprint to see if the palm pad was listed, unsurprisingly, it wasn't. What did surprise me was that the Palm Pre was NOT listed anymore.

I like web os but iys like the red heades step child of phone platforms. Not to much dev support like for android phones and i got frustrated with the lack of apps in the store. Though it is amazing platform jus not getting recognition but who know maybe hp can change all that we will see
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It was definitely cool to mess around with.. but like jesz said... not a lot of support.
I also had a ton of issues with it... exchanging for faulty hardware (headphone jack) to getting software updates that fixed some issues but broke other things.. it was a mess.
Hopefully HP does really well... competition is never a bad thing.

If HP released the Pre 3 right now I would probably get it. I found it my Pre to be the most amazing device I've used so far, I think I was one of the few to have a good build. I could care less about dev support because really I only used a core of 15 apps or so and thats all I use for Android. I love my Evo dearly but if Sprint doesn't announce a successor...

Yeahh thats another issue i had i had my pre for like Ill say 7 months and i had gone
Thru about 4
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WebOS isn't too bad. But until a semi decent bit of hardware comes packaged with WebOS then I'll continue to watch.
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webos is amazing IMO. if a slab phone comes out running it i will ditch android in a heartbeat. until then ill stick to my evo.

fixxxer2008 said:
webos is amazing IMO. if a slab phone comes out running it i will ditch android in a heartbeat. until then ill stick to my evo.
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Webos is the best phone os out there but the hardware and dev support was really bad, if those get turned around I would jump in two seconds
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DoctorComrade said:
If HP released the Pre 3 right now I would probably get it. I found it my Pre to be the most amazing device I've used so far, I think I was one of the few to have a good build. I could care less about dev support because really I only used a core of 15 apps or so and thats all I use for Android. I love my Evo dearly but if Sprint doesn't announce a successor...
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fixxxer2008 said:
webos is amazing IMO. if a slab phone comes out running it i will ditch android in a heartbeat. until then ill stick to my evo.
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DoctorComrade said:
+1
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Tuffgong4 said:
Webos is the best phone os out there but the hardware and dev support was really bad, if those get turned around I would jump in two seconds
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Agreed. The webOS interface and the way it handles multitasking is just perfect. The patches available from the webOS Internals team were amazing and a breeze to use.
If only it had better hardware, I wouldn't look back to Android ever again. At least we can dream.

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+1 totally

Froyo vs iOS5

My circle of friends are all Apple fans, recently one of them updated to iOS5. He's so excited about it, showing me iPhone can do this do that now. Uhm, Android had all of this a year ago hahahha!!! And I'm still on Froyo. Imagine all the new features in Gingerbread and Honeycomb
Apple is losing in hardware and OS features, so they'll keep suing with Patents.

can we never be in peace seriously?
iOS and Android are two completely different things.

xriderx66 said:
can we never be in peace seriously?
iOS and Android are two completely different things.
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Actually no they aren't. They are so much alike that fighting over them is stupid and pointless.
Both companies can be accused of copying one another when it comes to features.

Its all a matter of personal preference, I prefer Android while others prefer ios, or blackberry or symbian etc. The only reason I dislike apple is not because of their products, but rather their terrible business ethics, otherwise i will admit that the iphone while not my flavour is a good device.

atoz350 said:
Actually no they aren't. They are so much alike that fighting over them is stupid and pointless.
Both companies can be accused of copying one another when it comes to features.
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Not when it comes to business practices. Apple has hardware and software that is constantly CAPABLE of doing more, and a simple jailbreak makes it fully capable of almost everything android does. They would rather just sell you features slowly over time.
Whatever iphone 5 can do, iphone 3g probably could have done perfectly well, only now they dont have to truly TRY to make something awesome for people to buy it like android based phones do.
So yea, the devices ARE different.. try to bluetooth a file to someone on an iphone, or really even save a file, or so many other simple things. It COULD be very similar devices except apple is all about slowly selling you functionality and calling it innovation.
The OP has a point, Froyo, as much as we ***** about it, is capable of TONS more than the newest iphone. The only thing apple REALLY has is a following which attracts developers and great hardware that isn't fully utilized.

I just hate iphone fans and apple thats all the products are not.bad at all i still prefer android over ios but if they give me a free iphone i wouldnt complaint, i do agree with the op. Now whos exited about samsung galaxy notes??? I am!!!!!
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I love the look of honeycomb, but it still has issues like choppines, not smooth, the stock browser is not good, lack of optimized apps... It doesn't even have an optimized Facebook app but there are third party Facebook apps anyway.. You can't even write a review on the market place and Google seems to be not planning on updating it til the next android version.. Pffffft
I have the gslate and i love it, but it doesn't run like how i want it to be being a dual core... Wish we have an OC kernel for it..
On android, it must have good hardware for it to run sleek.. My brother and his wife both have the touchpad, the browser on that one is fantastic! Why Can't android be like that? Oh yah it must be the widgets hence the choppines.. But it's fine i still prefer android no matter what..
Oh i just thought that if the touchpad was a hit, i bet apple would sue hp because it looks more similar to the ipad than the Galaxy tab does... Samsung is doing well in the mobile industry, making great mobile products, overall innovating... ,apple can't stand it

I think I'm going to switch from Android to iOS with the upcoming iPhone 5.
I just want a phone that works, and works all the time. Aside from antenna-gate, iPhone seems to be a solid and stable device.
I'm tired of messing with my phone. No Android device I have owned has been problem free, but it seems like many iPhones just work and work flawlessly.
Anyways, still undecided until the iPhone is actually released next month.

Yup, iphone is very stable.
Good thing I don't get tired of android though I do get tired of flashing roms that's why I'm using he most stable rom for me.
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You guys think that's cool. MIUI blows them all out of the water due to one fact: THEME CHANGER>>>>its sooooo cool! Like having a new rom in 2 seconds. I have been using a cheezit theme forever but I have a hundred different ones downloaded like transformers etc. Its the coolest **** ever. I could care less about anything else. It changes EVERYTHING VISUAL on your phone.

The thing that makes android win over iPhone, the one fact I've never heard a good argument for.. android will let you customize everything. Literally. Ios, though it works consistently, doesn't let you have control of most things. Its based on their business model, and some users don't want to have to be responsible for their devices.. but android wins simply because if the hardware can do something, and as a user, or as a community, you want it bad enough.. you can make it do it.
I wouldn't be as against apple as I am if they didn't fight jailbreaking like they do. Development is hindered by constantly having to find new exploits. Their devices CAN be amazing, but then they'd have to work harder to amaze you if they allowed the hardware to do everything it can do right now.
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Do any of you know if iOS have an App drawer? Or do you need an App for that?
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Do any of you know if iOS have an App drawer? Or do you need an App for that?
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as far as i know, there is nothing close ot a app drawer on iOS, the closest that I personally would consider a "app drawer" is a folder.

xriderx66 said:
as far as i know, there is nothing close ot a app drawer on iOS, the closest that I personally would consider a "app drawer" is a folder.
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lol that reason alone wouldn't make me want an iPhone.

Y is it froyo vs ios5 y not gingerbread
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Its more like GB vs iOS5

just like osx will never be able to do what my ubuntu can, ios will never do what my android can, and i'm just talking the os not hardware.

funeralthirst said:
just like osx will never be able to do what my ubuntu can, ios will never do what my android can, and i'm just talking the os not hardware.
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Mind listing just 10 things that iOS will never do that your Android can?

SamsungVibrant said:
Mind listing just 10 things that iOS will never do that your Android can?
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why do i need 10? if it can do one thing that ios never will that should be sufficient considering android can do everything ios can...

Jasonhunterx said:
Y is it froyo vs ios5 y not gingerbread
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Reason I've title it "Froyo vs iOS5" because most of the new features in iOS5 are in Froyo already. Gingerbread has more features that iOS5 can't be comparable.
iOS is very stable just can't customize it to my liking, that's why I like/use Android.

HP to make WebOS open source

I'm sure everyone has read this. Thought I would share. I've played around on an HP Touchpad and I really like WebOS from what I've saw so far.
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397447,00.asp
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daoliverio said:
I'm sure everyone has read this. Thought I would share. I've played around on an HP Touchpad and I really like WebOS from what I've saw so far.
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No one likes that crappy OS.....open sourced or not, is not going to matter!

It would be nice to have it integrated into android. Webos has some cool features that would look good on android. With it being open source i see people porting things over

I think that if some really good devs get their hands on the source code they might make it what it was intended to be all along. I think that webOS never experienced its full capacity because it didn't attract the pockets of major investors, but that can change.
Never underestimate anyone... or even more, Anything...

I hope its ported. Just another reason to feed my addiction to flashing roms haha
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so, a guy has cobbled together a pretty pre-pre-pre-alpha monstrosity and slapped it into the evo 3d.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/9/2...r-htcs-evo-3d-a-proof-of-concept-for-the-time
i'm switching to verizon once the nexus is released, so my evo will turn into more of a toy/media device, and i think i'd really love to play around with webos on a huge evo screen.
am i alone on this one? or is anybody else out there plotting and scheming about how to shoehorn it into our previous evos?

I personally enjoy webos. If it only had the support that Android or ios has (apps wise) then I believe it can be a real competitor in the near future. Would be dope if the Evo gets a port
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Would be very interesting. There are quite a few very nice functional and visual to WebOS, be great to just get certain parts of it, I don't really want a full port(besides to play around with), but just some of its features and effects would be nice to integrate into a ROM. Def with ICS.

I personally love web os it has many great features but I'm confused when palm owned it I thought it was open source I remember hearing Ruby talk about how great that was. Why did HP close it in the first place. I mean I might be wrong so please if I am school me
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delman420 said:
I personally love web os it has many great features but I'm confused when palm owned it I thought it was open source I remember hearing Ruby talk about how great that was. Why did HP close it in the first place. I mean I might be wrong so please if I am school me
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I don't remember really. In my limited time using the touchpad (i refuse to buy one for myself since it's been dumped) I've loved it. It's really simple to use and has some cool features. I'd like to see it running on this huge EVO screen also!
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mazdarider23 said:
No one likes that crappy OS.....open sourced or not, is not going to matter!
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Wat? I'm going to venture a guess here that you've never used it. It's far from crappy. The failure was the devices it was placed on and their prices. WebOS wasn't the problem.