Database Users

Dual boot wp7

Idk how possible this is... But once we get vanilla gb ported to the epic it would be awesome to be able to dualboot with wp7 too. Anyone know how possible this is?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

No possible at all, wp7 has a device identifier built in and the epic wouldn't be recognized
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

not to mention that wp7 only runs on snapdragon hardware that exists on the evo not epic.

Could be wrong here, but doesn't the Samsung Focus have a Hummingbird chip?

No, it has a Snapdragon CPU.
I can post many links for this, but I'll just go with this one:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/22/samsung-focus-review/

Having wp7 on the epic would be like downgrading your phone...
Sent from my Epic 4G

jeffyv2 said:
Having wp7 on the epic would be like downgrading your phone...
Sent from my Epic 4G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I completely disagree.

Slvrshot said:
I completely disagree.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because of the hardware its gonna be on but he os is garbage lol...
Sent from my Epic 4G

jeffyv2 said:
Having wp7 on the epic would be like downgrading your phone...
Sent from my Epic 4G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Having a choice in operating systems would be amazing. I just wish phone hardware was at least as open as PC hardware
I wouldn't choose to run WP7 personally, but the ideology of having multiple OS choices for a device you bought is great. I'd love to have meego on our phones

drunix said:
Having a choice in operating systems would be amazing. I just wish phone hardware was at least as open as PC hardware
I wouldn't choose to run WP7 personally, but the ideology of having multiple OS choices for a device you bought is great. I'd love to have meego on our phones
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amen well said
Sent from my Epic 4G

Putting WP7 on an android phone would probably lead to a law suite :/..MeeGo on the other hand is open source thus a possibility...

gTen said:
Putting WP7 on an android phone would probably lead to a law suite :/..MeeGo on the other hand is open source thus a possibility...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya I doubt microsoft would be happy about that. From what I remember they've been pretty quick to squash the WP7 hacking community. Which is stupid because a hacking community really makes or breaks a phone OS imo. We're not the majority but we're a very loud minority and the things people like our devs do are things that (more often than not) make the phones better and are sometimes taken note of by the corporate devs.

i just thought it would be awesome, idk, wp7 just looks fun, i still prefer android over it, but itd just be fun to see how fast it would go on a hummingbird. i knew all the wp7s had snapdragons, but i didnt know they had to have snapdragons.... was a cool dream while it lasted i guess, maybe a dev or something will try and find a workaround

EVO tablet

I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

babyschoof said:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
HW003

babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

Any new mobile OS's coming out soon

I like android and all but it just gets old just like if I had the iPhone for awhile it would get old too. I'm tired of all the new phones coming out being android because its all the same with a little hardware change. If I'm going to get a new device I don't want it to be a android cause the evo is a great phone and there no need to upgrade it to something that really doesn't do much more besides have a nicer screen or a faster processer. So does anyone know if any new OS coming to the market soon to keep things fresh?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

We need consolidation not expansion.
Already too many platforms.

WebOS maybe?
Sent from my U20i using XDA App

darrie1 said:
WebOS maybe?
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
(Jeopardy?)
What is....a two year old platform that fell flat on its face?

Had a palm pre if they could get the hardware right it would be a good os if they placed that os in something like the evos hardware it would have been a success. But it still needs far better apps and someone to restrict the crap they put in there market. Anyways I'm tired of that os too.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I herd Motorola is coming out with something new possibly
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

touchjon said:
Anyways I'm tired of that os too.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like you have a really short attention span.
A.d.d. perhaps?

Without the release of new OSes, you could always jump from OS to OS with each upgrade to switch it up a bit, Android > WP7 > WebOS > iPhone (where available) etc... By the time you make the rounds, years will have passed and the OS may be much different from what you remember.
On another note, there was rumor that Motorola was working on their own OS, we'll see if that comes to fruition, and Nokia has a new OS, Meego, that is linux based and supposed to be pretty smooth. Since we don't see many Nokias here, I am not sure if we will see Meego (though I do believe it has been ported to the HD2- along with every other OS).

Honeycomb is a pretty big changeup
I'm digging it so far

nebenezer said:
Honeycomb is a pretty big changeup
I'm digging it so far
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On your xoom? I don't think we'll see that version of HC on our mobile phones...

I'd love to see a pretty solid Meego phone come out in the near future, it seems like the next best thing to Android.
Also, I wouldn't touch any proprietary Motorola OS with a ten-foot pole....

If palm/HP partnered with HTC and started making manly 4" phones and not little black Easter eggs webOS would bend android over and make it beg for mercy.

dirkyd3rk said:
If palm/HP partnered with HTC and started making manly 4" phones and not little black Easter eggs webOS would bend android over and make it beg for mercy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...AND have the same (or hell, any) dev interest.

My wife had the pre and the pixi. I didn't like webos. Won't be trying it again any time soon.

Can you please explain what features your missing that android or ios don't have?
Would you be pleased if they made another platform exactly like android or ios and just called it something else.... like "Humpty-Dumpty"? That's be something new I suppose...
Or you can just try Wp7.
In all reality though, there are more than likely no more os's coming out for phones at least for a while. Between android, ios, and wp7 there is really no reason...

WP7 on Galaxy note?

Is it possible to flash wp7 on galaxy note?
I am aware of the resolution variation, but is it possible by any means?

Really??? Slap myself on the forehead!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA App

never going to happen, ever.
WP7 has very strict hardware requirements, and doesnt even support dual core processors.

I think it will never happen, unless great the greatest minds from cotulla have some free time.
However, i'd be very happy if it will happen, as wp7 is, in my opinion, a far more better os than android. The whole os is an integrated experiene, where every aspect of the apps feel uniform with the os rather than all the android apps wich makes android looks like a post-it wall. +1 for the idea.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

@crazy talk,
I Don't think so. I someone had thought the same, the HD7 would have not seen a WP7 rom running in it.
Anything is possible. I am sure the note's spec will defenetly attract the interests of our great chefs.

Android Kit Kat FOR ALL!

Okay, so the title might be a little misleading. But I want to start a super-project with a bunch of developers here on XDA to bring 4.4 to Legacy Devices. some of you may laugh at my idea, but the truth is PLENTY of us are either stuck at an old version or hate the custom ROM manufactures put in place on our devices. I recently received an old T mobile sidekick 4G, witch is stuck at Froyo. I want to compile android 4.4 when it releases, to be compatible with my SK4G. I know it seems ridiculous to work on such on old device, but i'm a "Developer on a budget". I'm not asking someone to work on a ROM for me, but it would be cool to get some direction on how to do this. I also want to work on Kit Kat ROM's for the HTC Wildfire S, Huawei Ascend Q, and the Kyocera Hydro Elite.
Thanks to anyone viewing this! If you would like to join my cause and add your device to the list, just comment your device!

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I think the hardware limits you. I don't believe those phones have enough underneath the hood to run ICS and up.....
Sent from my VS980 4G using XDA Premium HD app

mouf32 said:
I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I think the hardware limits you. I don't believe those phones have enough underneath the hood to run ICS and up.....
Sent from my VS980 4G using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the rumours are true, kitkat is supposed to be far less hungry for hardware performance than JB or ICS. I use an old SE X10 mini pro running a similar processor to the wildfire S, and it was possible to run jb 4.1.2 on it, even though it was pretty laggy.
All in all, with a bit of luck(concerning the rumours), knowledge, compiling and time (not to forgetting a little naive thinking ), it might yet be possible to use kitkat on legacy devices. With that, I would like to add my device to the list and offer whatever help I can.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

My device isn't really a legacy device and will be easy to get 4.4 on, but if anyone needs help compiling or getting started on building for their device I'll definitely help
Sent from my VS920 4G using Tapatalk 2

How's mine?... :good:
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

This is far byond my imagination.. however , good idea though .. but im not a dev..
Sent from my E15i using xda premium

im no developer but i can tell you it that even if it does take less resources to run kitkat, its all about the drivers...
if kitkat uses drivers newer than what your phone has available then it will be extremely difficult, if not impossible to get it to work right
say for example kitkat requires updated drivers for wifi that are unavailable to your phone, you either find some workaround for it (much harder than it sounds) or you will not have wifi
or say kitkat uses newer graphics drivers your phone doesnt have, then you might not even be able to get the screen to work at all
if workarounds are needed it could take months and months to get it to work at all and with tons of bugs
just take the droid 1 for example, gingerbread wasnt too bad to port to it since there werent a ton of major changes but ics took nearly 6 months to get working and it was still buggy with all the workarounds and that was a very popular early developer device

Thanks for the in put, but I can figure something out....
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

My WFS has 4.1.2 with the ability to run 4.2.2. Same with the Huawei's
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

You certainly won't manage to port it to the sidekick. They never even got cm because that phone uses really odd drivers etc
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using xda app-developers app

Please help
azoller1 said:
My device isn't really a legacy device and will be easy to get 4.4 on, but if anyone needs help compiling or getting started on building for their device I'll definitely help
Sent from my VS920 4G using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Kyocera Hydro Elite and in my all stupidity I've played way to much with system files. Now the device boots up to Kyocera screen and then lands to Verizon....after a while vibrates there and then restarts.
I cant seem to find a RUU for this device to fix it. I have dump of /system though. A kind soul gave me that. I don't know if that's gonna help.
Thanks in advance.

It's running on the moto defy and there is a group of guys working on a droid x build. Both devices are about 3 years old and have locked bootloaders. Most likely the droid x guys will need an updated recovery in order to get 4.4 to flash. They are so focused on fixing build errors that they might like some help with the recovery.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507779
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Alcatel Ot 990
Sent from My Asus MemoPad 8

HTC ONE V GSM (Primou)

crazy4creationstudios said:
Thanks for the in put, but I can figure something out....
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See the flaw is, I here tons of people say "Oh, Kitkat 4.4 will run becuase it uses less ram", Which is true, but this won't make it possible to run on a 3-6 year old device. Kitkat is more about nand than it is ram. To run kitkat, you device is going to need at least 300mb for system space.
And not to get you red or mad or anything, but I'm going to tell you that this project is far away from possible atm. I've prayed that one day google will become like ubuntu and make it android with almost universal drivers, but its not possible.
See, the flaw to this whole topic is that you left out a key piece of evidence. There are over 500 different android phones and such including android watches, glass, tvs etc. And it takes weeks to months to get a build for just 1 phone stable, and thats if you a great developer. And first you have to find a developer that owns that phone, let alone 500+ devs. And I'm sure most or at least half will want some type of pay for it, cause its not easy.
Sorry man, Im telling you the nicest way, but it just is impossible

Criteria
Aiko0923 said:
See the flaw is, I here tons of people say "Oh, Kitkat 4.4 will run becuase it uses less ram", Which is true, but this won't make it possible to run on a 3-6 year old device. Kitkat is more about nand than it is ram. To run kitkat, you device is going to need at least 300mb for system space.
And not to get you red or mad or anything, but I'm going to tell you that this project is far away from possible atm. I've prayed that one day google will become like ubuntu and make it android with almost universal drivers, but its not possible.
See, the flaw to this whole topic is that you left out a key piece of evidence. There are over 500 different android phones and such including android watches, glass, tvs etc. And it takes weeks to months to get a build for just 1 phone stable, and thats if you a great developer. And first you have to find a developer that owns that phone, let alone 500+ devs. And I'm sure most or at least half will want some type of pay for it, cause its not easy.
Sorry man, Im telling you the nicest way, but it just is impossible
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a criteria for this.
Must have 512MB+ of RAM
Must have 1Gb.+ of memory total
Must have a 1Ghz+ processor
Must be running ICS or later.

crazy4creationstudios said:
I have a criteria for this.
Must have 512MB+ of RAM
Must have 1Gb.+ of memory total
Must have a 1Ghz+ processor
Must be running ICS or later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and the nand req

Sony xperia m
Sent from my C1905 using xda app-developers app

GT-I8260
Hi guys! First, this idea is awesome for Legacy device users (like me ). Second, i will ask, maybe someone can port any SlimRom to our device, we will be proud, if someone gonna do that. Galaxy Core is good phone, but the problem is, that we don`t have any dev, that can port rom for us. We - Core users are asking for help. Thanks!

Go for it
I recentlybroke my Galaxy S 4G and am back on the Sidekick 4G-- my girlfriend also has the same phone lol. If you could finish up where windxixi left off, Gingerbread would give this phone new life.