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cracked screen - what do I need?

Just cracked my screen today. I went searching on Ebay and saw LCD screens and a digitizer. What parts do I need? either or both?
Phone still works, just can't read anything on the screen. It lights up but its all messed up.
I'm in the US, anyone have a phone for parts?

If you think that you can do it yourself, you will have to order a new LCD component and - just to be on the save side - a digitizer as well. Your best source might be eBay. Other than that, the Hermes really dropped in price, so, if you want to stick with a Hermes, try to get you a new one on eBay and keep your broken one for parts.

NO!!!!!!! You just need the LCD. Make sure it has the digitizer ALREADY on it. Save some $$ and some stuffing around with a possible failure.
In Oz I can get 1 for less than $100. You should be able to get them cheaper depending where you are in the world.
When you get the LCD/digitizer combo then use the Hermes HTC Service manual to pull apart your Hermes and put back together. You'll also need a size 6 torque key, a smll flatblade screwdriver and a small philips head screwdriver.
Take the steps 1 at a time and if you don't understand something then reread until you do.
When you put back together watch out for the camera focus and the battery access latch. If you don't line up the camera focus switch with the swich on the back cover you will have problems and if you put the battery latch on the wrong way you're not gonna be able to get the battery cover off easily.
Cheers...

Thanks for the advice. I'mgoing to try to do this myself and save a few bucks. I checked local repair shops and they want $120 to repair.
I haven't seen any LCD's that mention they have the digitizer with it. Is there a way to tell? Otherwise, I'll see what I can find.

ultramag69 said:
NO!!!!!!! You just need the LCD. Make sure it has the digitizer ALREADY on it. ...
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LOL,
So, he needs the digitizer!

Yes Junner2003, but you DON'T buy it separately... That is a MAJOR pain in the neck. Its almost impossible to attach properly.
The LCD should come with the digitizer attached. Ask the seller if it is. If they say "no" then go elsewhere. There's no point in saving a few bucks on an LCD that may not be made to work properly.

Thanks for that tip. I found one with the digitizer so I'm crossing my fingers.

broken screen still working

hey guys i have attached pictures of my g1's broken screen. First it was just from the top that was unnoticeable now it has spread to the other end take a look. Everything works fine, the touch is working perfectly everywhere on the screen. are there chances that this crack will grow further? i dont think repair parts are available right now ..what do you guys think?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8046/dsc05476vk5.jpg
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http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2802/dsc05478ly8.jpg
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helo? anyone?

http://www.cellulardr.com/products.php?cat=513

is this screen will continue to work for a long time?are there chances of further cracks? which part of screen is this? digitizer?

r4yd3n said:
hey guys i have attached pictures of my g1's broken screen. First it was just from the top that was unnoticeable now it has spread to the other end take a look. Everything works fine, the touch is working perfectly everywhere on the screen. are there chances that this crack will grow further? i dont think repair parts are available right now ..what do you guys think?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8046/dsc05476vk5.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/563/dsc05477yf0.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2802/dsc05478ly8.jpg
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looks like your digitizer is broken.
however in the link that Dharkaron had posted (http://www.cellulardr.com/products.php?cat=513), there is replacement screen for around $180, it should contain digitizer in it, but i would check before purchase.
if thats a digitizer only, it should not spread, but you are in risk of damaging your lcd display. (not really relevant if you cant get digitizer by itself though)

Sorry but it looks more like your protection sheet is broken try to take that of maybe it will help ;-)

screen protector u mean? no its not tht I checked tht already how can the protector break its not solid ...so digitizer for $180 that expensive I rather wait for some time and get a new one

well, its the whole screen for 180, but it does not say that it does come with digitizer, so it actually maybe wiyhout one, that is why i would check, digitizer for my old sony was around 100 and it was only digitizer, without lcd, so i would wait and see if you can find digitizer by itself (as long as it is actually separate part and not integrated somehow with lcd...) good luck on your hunt.
@WvaanWaas
screeen protector, as like piece of elastic transparent film broken that way? very unlikely my friend.

r4yd3n said:
is this screen will continue to work for a long time?are there chances of further cracks?
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There is no way to tell how long it will work. Could work for a day, could work for a year. Chances of further cracks? There is always a chance a crack will get bigger as it's subjected to day to day use. Also, please don't bump your own post, especially after less than a day of waiting. We have lives and don't sit here just to answer people's questions.

This link is just the digitizer, like i said prices seem high to me.
http://www.cellulardr.com/G1FaceplateDigitizerBlk.htm

Just saw this, might be all you need if the touchscreen still works on your phone.
http://www.cellulardr.com/G1FaceplateBlk.htm

ok i am confused..the broken screen of my g1 is it digitizer or the faceplate? my touch screen is perfect like before even on the cracked part it works like it used to do...i cant feel the crack probably because of the screen protector..if thts the faceplate then its gud

r4yd3n said:
ok i am confused..the broken screen of my g1 is it digitizer or the faceplate? my touch screen is perfect like before even on the cracked part it works like it used to do...i cant feel the crack probably because of the screen protector..if thts the faceplate then its gud
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it is digitizer also known as touch screen, faceplate thats whats around (black frame) digitizer/touchscreen is not there, and that is what failed in yours. digitizer/touch screen.
this will not fix the problem: http://www.cellulardr.com/G1FaceplateBlk.htm
this will work: http://www.cellulardr.com/G1FaceplateDigitizerBlk.htm

I think I will continue to use it and wait for some time till I can find cheap digitizer

he3r0 said:
looks like your digitizer is broken.
however in the link that Dharkaron had posted (http://www.cellulardr.com/products.php?cat=513), there is replacement screen for around $180, it should contain digitizer in it, but i would check before purchase.
if thats a digitizer only, it should not spread, but you are in risk of damaging your lcd display. (not really relevant if you cant get digitizer by itself though)
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It's pretty clear according to the description on Cellulardr that the LCD and the Touch screen digitizer are separate products. The digitizer is about 190$.
Part #: G1FaceplateDigitizerBlk
Manufacturer: HTC
SKU: LS032B7LX01
T-Mobile G1 Google Front Faceplate BLACK with Digitizer Touchscreen Lens
HTC Tmobile Android G1 Faceplate with Window Lens Touch Screen Glass and Flex Cable
Front Window Lens Glass is included
Price: $189.95
r4yd3n said:
hey guys i have attached pictures of my g1's broken screen. First it was just from the top that was unnoticeable now it has spread to the other end take a look. Everything works fine, the touch is working perfectly everywhere on the screen. are there chances that this crack will grow further? i dont think repair parts are available right now ..what do you guys think?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8046/dsc05476vk5.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/563/dsc05477yf0.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2802/dsc05478ly8.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7278/dsc05480ry7.jpg
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The glass of the digitizer is broken my friend. Your screen protector should be intact. The LCD should most likely be intact but there no way of telling it 100% by looking at those pictures even though they were good. It doesn't look that bad but it will most likely get worse. Just use gently contact and do not press the screen. You may notice that the digitizer may not respond exactly like before but pretty good. Now there's a bigger risk your LCD will get broke as well if it is subject to heavy pressure.
Dharkaron said:
Just saw this, might be all you need if the touchscreen still works on your phone.
http://www.cellulardr.com/G1FaceplateBlk.htm
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r4yd3n said:
ok i am confused..the broken screen of my g1 is it digitizer or the faceplate? my touch screen is perfect like before even on the cracked part it works like it used to do...i cant feel the crack probably because of the screen protector..if thts the faceplate then its gud
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No the faceplate is just the plastic frame around/above the digitizer. You need the digitizer. Unfortunately CellularDR doesn't sell the digitizer itself but instead they have package of the faceplate+digitizer. That part including many others are out of stock looking at their site.

r4yd3n -> I don't know where you live but if you live in the US or Canada you should be able to order repair parts however if I were you I would send it in. Remember, Cellulardr have strict rules of not shipping outside USA and Canada (Confirmed in email) except probably if you're an american/canadian working overseas.

well the touch screen is still working like before I am surprised ...no effect of broken digitizer on the touch screen

meh
I broke my screen christmas eve
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/members/dzknockout/albums/mine/1605-phone.jpg
(Still fully funtional)
I say leave it till its necessary to get a new one. And rather than buy replacement parts for an arm and a leg, you can send it back to t-mobile for like $110 (provided you have insurance. But honestly, a broken screen isn't that big a deal if it's fully funtional. And my screen is way more f*cked up than yours

ohh yea urz is way too much cracked then my screen ...ok so I will continue to use it and wait for something better.

Good News Google G1 Digitizer Only Now available
Good news guys I just noticed that www.cellulardr.com now sells the Tmobile Google G1 Window Lens with Digitizer only at a lower price: http://www.cellulardr.com/G1Digitizer.htm
They don't have a picture yet so just to be sure I called them and confirmed that this is the correct part. Basically this is the Window Lens Glass with the Touch Screen Digitizer and has the Flex Cable attached to it. It does not include the LCD but I understand that most people that have broken their phone, have only damaged this part.
Hope this helps you guys.
P.S. They told me that they have a limited quantity in stock so if you really need it, jump on it.

EVO digitizer on HD2, is this possible?

There was some talk about the buttons on the HD2 going bad due to much use on android ROM. Was wondering if Evo digitizer will fit/work on HD2? That would get rid of the possibility of buttons going bad.

To engineer that would be SIGNIFICANTLY harder than just buying the part for the buttons on the HD2 and installing it. Phone parts are not interchangable and if you've ever opened one up you would know the answer to your own question. The talk about button problems on the HD2 is over exaggerated. First you don't know what the people are doing that are starting those discussions - how hard are they with their phones, etc. The keys in most phones are pressure contact switches - they are designed to perform for years of normal use not used by a gorilla or someone who isn't exercisiing care.
I've owned HTC phones like the TYTN I for a number of years and used the hard keys - very similar contact switches - never a problem. The same for the 2125 which was a Windows phone with hard keys only. They were very small and I used the phone for two years every day. Keys did not wear out and they felt about the same as when I bought it.
Don't worry about it for at least two years of general use. Even when using Android you can get widgets that mimic soft keys (ie. the back/windows key).

Stim, thanks for your thoughts. I purchased a HD2 with a broken digitizer and replaced it so was wondering if the digitizer on the EVO would work since they are the same size. I did get a chance yesterday to see a pic on the internet for the EVO digitizer and the ribbon on the EVO for the capacitive buttons and digitizer does not look compatible size wise on the HD2.
I've never had buttons go out on any of my phones before. With all the talk of the buttons going bad I thought maybe it was a quality issue with the HD2.

wendellc said:
There was some talk about the buttons on the HD2 going bad due to much use on android ROM. Was wondering if Evo digitizer will fit/work on HD2? That would get rid of the possibility of buttons going bad.
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I might be completely stupid here, but what does the screen/digitizer have to do with hardware buttons?
I thought the digitizer is just the touch sensor of the screen, and that the hardware buttons have their own button pads/switches (whatever they're called).
Now, if you were talking about capacitive "hardware" buttons (such as the ones found on many Android devices, like the Nexus1), I can see how the digitizer would come into play.

while on subject of digitizer of hd2, does anyone know how to replace it?
I recently dropped my phone on the ground and even though i had a scratch resistant film over it i broke the glass digitizer, phone digitizer work 100 fine but i would like to replace it, honestly i got lucky that i did not damage the lcd screen under the digitizer, i have priced replace ment part at about 60 with tools to fix it, i would just like advise to get repairs done

Actually you aren't so lucky. There are plenty of threads on this issue. Replacing the digitizer and lcd as separate components is nearly impossible without damaging the lcd. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. Separating the glass from the LCD is nearly impossible. They are glued together and air sealed. Some have tried and failed by either destroying the lcd or making the phone inoperable. HTC either heat seals the two together or uses a special adhesive. In either case unless you are working in a class clean room (no dust) getting specs, skin or hair more than likely and you will be really ticked off to find that crap in there when you go and turn the phone on. Mike Channon's website used to post official (semi) HTC maintenance guides but the HD2 hasn't been posted. There are however a couple of Russian links that go through the process. The HTC guides were much better and they listed the steps, torx settings, oven temps etc..
I've seen a few on eBay - new but there seems to be some that need to be soldered and others that don't.
My suggestion is buy a complete unit if you have to or sell it damaged on eBay and get another phone.

i can also buy a lcd and digitizer together to eliminate the hassel of having to seperate them, and install componients like that, only downer is prices avererage 100-120 dollars, would that be a good option? i have seen videos on youtube on how to go about replacement, im quite knowledgeable about wire work and sodering but do u think im getting in over my head by tring to do this repair?

i know buying a used hd2 is about 575 and it only goes up from there, i just dont have that kind of cash right now, plus my phone is unlocked, has hard spl, running nand android flashed directly to phone, with att service fully working, something very few owners have accomplished with there hd2's..

Some searches...
Digitizer:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Digitizer-HTC-HD2-Replacement/dp/B001V7W3M4
Housing + Display + Digitizer + Battery Package
http://www.amazon.com/FACEPLATE-TOUCHSCREEN-DIGITIZER-REPLACEMENT-HTC/dp/B004FE1FLU
I notice the hardware buttons are not included. My phone is fine except the hardware buttons were scratched up after suffering a hard fall.

I don't know. I've done complete overhauls on TYTN I and TYTN II's. They didn't require heating to remove the panels - they just snapped in. Phones were very modular no work involved except screw removal. The latest phones seem to be held together with some sort of adhesive. I remember looking at how to disassemble a FUZE. Major pain to remove the screen from the keypad - required an oven to melt the glue.
Look for a complete quide that shows step by step disassembly AND assembly. Sometimes they forget the tricks to put it back together and you get messed up.
The 150 for the housing seems a little steep. But most of the LCD/DIGITIZERS are at least 100. Be careful about some of the parts they are stripped from a "working" phone - doubt it - why would someone take a perfectly good phone and break it apart for the parts? Doesn't make sense - they can get more money for the complete unit. Sounds like they were defects or seconds - screens may have dead pixels or spots. I'd look for factory fresh new stuff personally. You can buy the keypad/keys separately on eBay for next to nothing.

stim141 said:
I don't know. I've done complete overhauls on TYTN I and TYTN II's. They didn't require heating to remove the panels - they just snapped in.
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The digitizer is the glass that you touch when operating the phone. The LCD panel is the part that shows the pictures. The digitizer covers the LCD and both are sealed together. The TYTN series of phones did not have this.
The OP was concerned about replacing the digitizer without harming the LCD. I know from experience that this is very hard to do. I managed to get them apart and replaced the digitizer on my HD2, only to damage a single line in the LCD when I re-assembled the phone. It was a complete waste of time and money.
stim141 said:
The 150 for the housing seems a little steep. But most of the LCD/DIGITIZERS are at least 100. Be careful about some of the parts they are stripped from a "working" phone - doubt it - why would someone take a perfectly good phone and break it apart for the parts? Doesn't make sense - they can get more money for the complete unit. Sounds like they were defects or seconds - screens may have dead pixels or spots. I'd look for factory fresh new stuff personally. You can buy the keypad/keys separately on eBay for next to nothing.
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Actually, the housings sold 3rd party are usually factory fresh, unless specified otherwise. HTC expects to have techs replace various parts of the phones and ordered a certain percentage of these types of parts. When the initial sell drive dies down, the excess is unloaded to 3rd parties who either offer them up on sites like eBay or catalog them for companies that repair phones.

well like i was saying would it be easyer to buy both the digitizer and lcd already together and just replace the ones in my phone?

[Q] Scratch removal

Hi,
after my wife dropped my phone (accidently she swears) I have some small scratches on the phone. (See Picture below)
Someone knows some ACME Cleaner&Scratch remover for that?
Greetings .. seems that I have had the HD2 for the longest time ...

OOO!! Ouch! Looks like it's time to see the phone doctor. Or, if you feel brave enough, you can fix it yourself. They have replacement screens on ebay. Since you have the EU model the contacts for the screen and the digitizer are soldered together. So you have 3 options. 1. Take it to someone else to fix it. 2. Attempt to order just the digitizer and if you have some time and surgical skills solder the contacts yourself or, 3. Get a fully assembled LCD and digitizer that is already soldered together and swap them out. The cheapest would be to just get the digitizer but if you have to factor in the time and headache of soldering those tiny contacts together, I think getting the assembled parts would be my choice. The US T-Mobile model has a small plug-in type connector on it so there is not soldering. I replaced mine and it is quite a chore. You have to be very careful and don't rush it or you will break things. Good luck!

Yeah you've got more than scratches there! You've got a smashed screen
You'll have to replace the glass
the guy above stated pretty much everything you need to know but here's a link to a lcd+digitizer combo that is fairly cheap: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LCD-Dis...192999?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45fdf14d27

I know guys, the scratches where just kidding
The complete replacement has been ordered already, will fix it by myself

RollerCoasting said:
Yeah you've got more than scratches there! You've got a smashed screen
You'll have to replace the glass
the guy above stated pretty much everything you need to know but here's a link to a lcd+digitizer combo that is fairly cheap: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LCD-Dis...192999?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45fdf14d27
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He was being sarcastic with the 'scratches' thing :L

MasterMerlin said:
I know guys, the scratches where just kidding
The complete replacement has been ordered already, will fix it by myself
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That's great. Like I said be very careful in taking it apart. Especially the flex cable that controls the volume rocker. Take your time and you can get it fixed.
Check out this website: http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
It has some videos on disassembling and assembling the HD2 just so you see what you have to deal with. Also another good investment would be to see if you can get some double sided tape to stick the back of the LCD to main frame if you can't salvage the stuff that's there already. It can't be too thick though because you'll run into problems of getting it put back together. They have that on ebay also.

yes
option one.... change screen..
option 2...change wife.....

hahaha change your wife my friend

htchd2fix said:
yes
option one.... change screen..
option 2...change wife.....
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haha change screen is cheaper i guess

Damaged screen

It seems that sweat got underneath the screen of my G2, and the lower part of the touch screen does not respond any more. There is no problem with display, but I can't access to the navigation buttons (home, back, etc) and the app drawer button. The phone suddenly becomes useless. Any way to savage the phone?

@mj56gt
Unless you have warranty, you can replace the LCD. Just make sure you try and get an authentic one or close to it.
I've read that some knock offs are really thick and touches don't register as well.

Thanks a lot for the help! I really appreciate it.
Do you have any suggestion about the digitizer? I see there are some cheap one with less than 10 dollars from China. Are they good?

Anher0 said:
@mj56gt
Unless you have warranty, you can replace the LCD. Just make sure you try and get an authentic one or close to it.
I've read that some knock offs are really thick and touches don't register as well.
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Thanks a lot for the help! I really appreciate it.
Just to be clear, there is no problem with the display for the phone, but the issue is that the lower part of the phone does not respond to touch. So this is the digitizer damage, right? Do you have any suggestion about the digitizer? I see there are some cheap one with less than 10 dollars from China. Are they good? LCD and digitizer are the same thing, right?